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Entries at List of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in the United States
You may want to have a look at WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 1 where there has been a comment about the validity of most entries at List of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in the United States, of which you have been a major recent contributor.  Jay (Talk) 10:39, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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Federal Death Row Inmates
Hello I want to apologize for that weird edit, I was counting from the Terre Haute list and added the 2 at ADX to the math and I got 43, unfortunately the other 2 I forgot to count were in the "Former Death Row" list which are currently awaiting a retrial (total of 3 inmates counting Dzhokhar Tsarnaev).

Thank you for helping me catch my mistake.

Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Horribly misrepsented information
He doesn't have an alibi! He has immediate family that agreed to testify he was home, which DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS his gf Analise"s testimony that he was on the south side. 2600:1007:B0D6:DD67:2C9B:ECFD:F890:DAA0 (talk) 12:22, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Did I create the article? No. Take up your issues with the author or add it to the talk page of the article for discussion. Thank you. Inexpiable (talk) 12:26, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Help With Editing
Hello, Can you help me add that fact that Henry Montgomery from Montgomery v. Louisiana was just paroled i am having trouble with the edit as it keeps getting reverted and as you just succesfully edited this page Payne v. Tennessee could you edit Montgomery v. Louisiana for me please?--Afjnsd (talk) 20:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Inexpiable, just a quick FYI and I won't bother you again. This user is almost certainly a sockpuppet of, a prolific sock master who has edited similar pages with numerous sockpuppets. The editing pattern is identical. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Cadeken/Archive. They will deny it, as Cadeken socks always have. If they continue editing I'll make a report at WP:SPI. Sundayclose (talk) 20:17, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey thanks for alerting me. I'm aware of who he is and suspected it as well. I've read over the archive history and recognize some of the names on the list. Very annoying edits he's been making, especially the serial killer stuff which has already been confirmed as wrong and incorrect. Although, some of his edits have been genuine, even if they are poorly sourced and worded. I don't know what the policy is regarding sockpuppets making edits and if they should all be reverted even if some are technically correct. I think the best thing to do though is report him at SPI. He's clearly going to keep going based on his edit history, why he would bother to I have no idea, but he seems determined not to stop unfortunately. The Montgomery edit he wants me to make is genuine though so I don't really know what to do in regards to that. Are you happy for me to add the correct info in regards to that case and source and word it properly into the article? In the mean time I would report him at SPI so it's done with or else he'll keep on going and this back and forth editing will never end. Regards. Inexpiable (talk) 21:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just made an SPI report. Sundayclose (talk) 21:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. I have updated the Montgomery page though in regards to the latest developments in that case with proper sources and formatting, otherwise I'm sure he'll just keep editing it on other accounts in the future. If the information is going to be added it may as well be done properly and reliably. Inexpiable (talk) 22:09, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Your edits to Deaths in September 1996
Hi Inexpiable, Thank you for your recent edits to Deaths in September 1996. The comment regarding this edit deserved a proper answer. That's why I opened a new topic on the talk page. I hope I explained the removed entries well and would welcome any comments. Regards Mill 1 (talk) 22:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Samuel Cooper article
If you want to help with my new Samuel Cooper article, WRAL made an excellent compilation all of their articles about the case, including his defense team's and the prosecution's arguments.

https://www.wral.com/news/local/asset_gallery/7282521/

Lightiggy (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Robert Alton Harris
The categories for Robert Alton Harris label him a serial killer, but he's not present on the American serial killer list. Not sure if he should be labeled a serial killer or not. Lightiggy (talk) 16:52, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've removed the categories from the page. He is definitely not a serial killer. Inexpiable (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Help with Leroy Keith
You have access to Newspapers.com, so can you help with Leroy Keith. I'm trying to cite the fates of his accomplices, Louis Johnson and 16-year-old Joseph Reinthaler. From what I can see in the previews, Louis Johnson was convicted of first degree murder in Ohio, but avoided execution after the jury in his case recommended mercy. Reinthaler was tried as a juvenile and sentenced to an indeterminate term in the Ohio Reform School. In addition, an Akron Beacon Journal page dated April 26, 1959, titled "Life Was Always Cheap To Keith" has what appears to be a much clearer version of the current image on his wiki page, so I'd greatly appreciate you replacing it with that, if you can.

Lightiggy (talk) 05:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You need to send me the link if you want this done, I can't find it. Inexpiable (talk) 09:44, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Found it: Inexpiable (talk) 12:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Frederick Wood
An article on serial killer Frederick Charles Wood says he tried to commit suicide the day before he was sentenced for the Lowman murder. could you find it for me, since you have a newspapers.com subscription?

The article is dated Friday, March 12, 1943, and the information is on page 9 of the Star-Gazette, located in Elmira, New York. Lightiggy (talk) 20:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Done you can find it here: . Inexpiable (talk) 20:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

St Louis serial killers
I found a link with several unlisted serial killers. Anthony Joe LaRette, executed in 1995, confessed to over a dozen other murders.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/remember-these-notable-st-louis-area-serial-killers/collection_b73d74ac-2927-5c19-af89-1cfaa8919a0e.html#1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightiggy (talk • contribs) 02:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Glennon Engleman
Isn't Glennon Engleman a serial killer? He had 5-7+ victims over a span of decades. Lightiggy (talk) 15:24, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

George Hassell
Is George Hassell a serial killer? He confessed to a 1917 quadruple murder of family members. Lightiggy (talk) 02:07, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Jaturun Siripongs
Why did you remove my edit for Jaturun Siripongs? I added a source saying he had no last words. Did you not see it? Lightiggy (talk) 07:15, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Orlando Hall
Can you provided clippings from newspapers.com from the Fort Worth Star Telegram on the sentencing of Lisa Rene's killers?. The article is dated September 22, 1996. It list the specific charges some of the men accepted guilty pleas for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightiggy (talk • contribs) 19:29, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid my subscription has now expired so I no longer have access to it. Consider signing up for a month if you plan on creating more articles or updating others. Inexpiable (talk) 22:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Charles Coleman
Shouldn't Charles Coleman be listed as a serial killer. It says "despite killing at least three people, he was never convicted of the murder of Seward's wife and his conviction for Lewis' murder was overturned." The implication I get from this text is that he definitely murdered three people, even if he was executed with only one murder conviction standing. So, shouldn't Coleman be considered a serial killer? Lightiggy (talk) 04:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No because two of those kills were together. Serial killer definition is three or more murders at different times/locations. Unless you can find a source that specifically lists them as a serial killer that's the definition. Inexpiable (talk) 09:48, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Serial killer question
What makes Beardslee different from John Ruthell Henry? Henry is listed as a serial killer, and he did almost the exact same thing as Beardslee: Commit a single murder, serve time for it, and then commit a double murder after being released. Lightiggy (talk) 16:04, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Kevin Aaron Conner
In that case, I'd say Indiana murderer Kevin Aaron Conner is a serial killer. I was considering writing an article for him, but decided not to. Conner killed three people on the same day in 1988, one of them in a different location. Shortly before his execution in 2005, Conner also confessed to killing a fellow death row inmate, Jerry Thompson, in 2002. Oddly enough, I believe Thompson himself is a suspected serial killer. He was convicted of murdering three people in 1991 over exactly one month, two at the same time. Using the definition you gave, Thompson isn't a confirmed serial killer, but it looks like he was also charged with murdering a couple later that year, but those murder charges were dropped.

Lightiggy (talk) 19:56, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Article on sentencing of Lisa Rene's killers
Sorry, but I have to make one last request for a newspapers.com clipping about Lisa Rene. The page is from the Fort Worth Star Telegram and is dated September 10, 1996, on page 51. The caption reads "Judge decries 'heinous crime', but notes cooperation in plea agreement". The article is about the sentencing of Demetrius Hall, Holloway, and Beckley, and the judge's very harsh words for the trio, especially Beckley. In the previews, the judge told Beckley he deserved to be executed and that he likely would've gotten a death sentence had he not cooperated.

Lightiggy (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Newspapers.com
I see you have access to newspapers.com, and I wanted to know if you could clip an image of Darnell Collins from https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/476508390/. I am making an article on him and my subscription to newspapers.com has expired.

Rexxx7777 (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

John Francis Roche
Could you do an article on John Francis Roche? I'd do it myself, but I don't have newspapers.com access, and there are hardly any other sources. Lightiggy (talk) 01:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Owen Feener
How about Owen Feener? Owen "Mickey" Feener is a suspected Canadian serial killer. He is suspected of up to eight murders from the 1950s to 1960. At the time of his arrest, police found the photos of eight missing or dead women and girls on his car. Feener was convicted of murdering one of them, his girlfriend, K. Chouinor, sentenced to death, and hanged on June 13, 1961, at the age of 23. Newspapers reports at the time state shortly before his execution, Feener confessed to another murder, that of Dolly Woods, whose photo was also found on his car. Feener became one of the last men to be executed in Canada before capital punishment was abolished. This is all of the information I could find since I don't have a newspapers.com subscription, but it looks like Feener's daughter wrote a blog titled "The Man I Never Knew". I would appreciate if someone wrote an article about Feener. Lightiggy (talk) 00:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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Persons' ages in article(s)
Why would you remove the age of people involved in the event at the time? It makes reading and understanding relations so much easier because one doesn't need to reference each person's date of birth and do mental math every time the article mentions a specific date. Let alone the fact the paragraph talks about late teens/early adults, a serious distinction in court.

Also the young age of Patton's death is interesting (I couldn't find more information on the cause of death although admittedly I haven't dug deep and far enough). His date of birth is not mentioned in the article so one cannot even do the math.

It would make a lot of sense if you reverted your edit. 2604:3D08:7386:200:8CD5:FEAE:FC28:5554 (talk) 08:42, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Because it really isn't needed. Furthermore, having ages in brackets is poor MOS. Talk to me on your main account in future please rather than hiding behind an ip. Inexpiable (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Malik Samartaney
For the new Malik Samartaney article, ignore the copyvio matches from r/TrueCrime. I am responsible for that post.

Lightiggy (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

BLP
Please be far more cautious when accepting articles dealing with living people - specifically this draft which you accepted that is a msasive blp violation and violation of WP:V as well as WP:CRIME, not to mention full of WP:OR. CUPIDICAE💕 17:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I'd like to comment that I've already G7'd that article… I've lost confidence in creating articles… — 3PPYB6 — T ALK — C ONTRIBS  — 18:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

James W. Hutchins
James W. Hutchins was initially CHARGED with murder. He was only convicted of manslaughter after claiming self-defense. Stop removing it. Literally all of it is sourced. That said, I've removed the parts saying he was a serial killer and added several more sources which talk about the 1954 killing.

Lightiggy (talk) 15:37, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Now it is, it wasn't before though. You must source every sentence, which you did not do with the Wesley Ira Purkey page. Your edit here: "The company which Purkey worked for, Reddi Root'r, later agreed to pay Bales's family $500,000 to settle a negligence lawsuit over their failure to perform a background check on him." You provided no source for such a claim which is why I reverted that as well. The source needs to be at the end of the sentence. And if it's used multiple times you need to give it a ref name and resource it throughout the article. Inexpiable (talk) 18:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Okay, I added sources for Purkey, too Lightiggy (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Good, interesting find. But please also start using wording like "who had", "he had", rather than who'd, he'd, etc. Only use apostrophe's when it's in quoted text. So please change this sentence and any others that also use this wording style: "Hutchins, who'd been hitchhiking while he was AWOL, killed Weibel after the driver picked him up in New Mexico." Inexpiable (talk) 19:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've done it for you: but please be aware of this from now on. Inexpiable (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Newspaper clipping
One more request, can you please clip this?

Rexxx7777 (talk) 15:37, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Here:

Inexpiable (talk) 07:47, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Anatomy of Crime


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Warned per a complaint at WP:AN3
Hello Inexpiable. You've been warned for edit warring, per the result of your AN3 complaint. You are risking a block if you revert the article again without getting a prior consensus for your change on the article talk page. I don't perceive any agreement on the talk page about the usage of 'crack house' versus 'drug house'. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you if agreement can't be found. EdJohnston (talk) 16:03, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok understood, I won't edit the article again. Inexpiable (talk) 16:16, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
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Thank you for your review
Last night I created Who Is the Black Dahlia? and I'm amazed at the lightening-fast review. I appreciate all your hard work. Karenthewriter (talk) 12:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
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At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
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In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

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I have unreviewed a page you curated
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William Reece
Just a heads up that I spotted that you redirected a redlink that I created ages ago to William Lewis Reece. I've had a draft for this person sitting in my project space like literally forever. I've published this now and given it a hatnote that points to your new article. You will have adjusted a whole lot of red links and now that the Christchurch mayor has his own article, I'll restore those links. Sorry, I should have published my article ages ago.  Schwede 66  23:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Gratitude to you
Hello Inexpiable. I am Nelson. I can't help but I want to express my thanks to you for defending me earlier on in the deletion discussion of Kalwant Singh and Norasharee Gous. I was actually shocked and quite down when I saw Secret Squirrel saying these things to me. I went to his (or is it a her?) talk page to give him an explanation and clarify any misunderstandings he may have harboured about me (he has not replied to me yet as of the time of writing). Actually I am someone who supports the death penalty, and i create the articles on capital cases in order to explore my interest in reading about crime. Anyway, thank you again for helping me out. Inexpiable --NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 14:21, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SecretSquirrel78#Peace_truce_here NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 14:21, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
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James Ray Cable
Can you please review the article James Ray Cable. I made it almost two weeks ago and it still hasn't been reviewed. Rexxx7777 (talk) 23:33, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Request for a newspaper clipping
Sorry to disturb you, but would you mind clipping this section about Leslie Burchart (and I presume its corresponding follow-up page, as the article seems too big to fit on a single page)? I'm writing a separate article on him, but sadly, my subscription to Newspapers.com has expired. Thank you in advance. Haunted Spy (talk) 13:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Here:, . Inexpiable (talk) 14:37, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Haunted Spy (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
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Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to ), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also. Software news: and  have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved. Suggestions:
 * There is much enthusiasm over the low backlog, but remember that the "quality and depth of patrolling are more important than speed".
 * Reminder: an article should not be tagged for any kind of deletion for a minimum of 15 minutes after creation and it is often appropriate to wait an hour or more. (from the NPP tutorial)
 * Reviewers should focus their effort where it can do the most good, reviewing articles. Other clean-up tasks that don't require advanced permissions can be left to other editors that routinely improve articles in these ways (creating Talk Pages, specifying projects and ratings, adding categories, etc.) Let's rely on others when it makes the most sense. On the other hand, if you enjoy doing these tasks while reviewing and it keeps you engaged with NPP (or are guiding a newcomer), then by all means continue.
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Backlog: Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!


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