User talk:Infamia

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 * Thanks. How do I get my article into the encyclopedia and out of draft?Infamia (talk) 06:14, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of people pardoned by Donald Trump (November 13)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of people pardoned by Donald Trump (November 13)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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Sulfurboy (talk) 07:12, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Frankly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. You also should have allowed someone else to review it rather than just turning it down again. The topic is obviously notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Sorry to say, you're simply wrong and you're citation of WP:Too Soon is not even remotely on point. (Nor is it true that a list cannot only contain one item.) If you're going to decline an article, please use logical reasoning. There is no possible rational argument that WP:TooSoon applies here. Infamia (talk) 07:22, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

November 2017
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Galobtter (talk) 07:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Good. He should be deterred from continuing to do a shitty job. He had no right to tell me my article failed WP: What Wikipedia is not, which was obviously false. (Note that he knew his claim was bullshit, since he failed to answer which item on WP: What Wikipedia is not actually applied, and so was just being a jerk. He fails WP: Competence is required. Infamia (talk) 07:57, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You just resubmitted without changing anything or acknowledging his feedback. We don't have time to waste to explain things again and again. There's no need for a list as there is only one person. Also the draft is quite WP:COATRACK. Reads more like criticism of the pardon of joe arpaio. Galobtter (talk) 08:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * "feedback"? you thought there was feedback? where?Infamia (talk) 08:09, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Why can't I just create my own article without submitting a draft to a reviewer who fails WP: Competence is required? I don't have time to deal with incompetent reviewers who clearly don't know how to read and who cite irrelevant policies. Infamia (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Pardon of Joe Arpaio and your AFD creation
I think you might be confused somewhere. If you look at the edit history of the article you're trying to modify (Pardon of Joe Arpaio), all that happened was that someone created this page with a redirect to Joe Arpaio. This particular article has not been deleted or created before in the past. Are you sure that you're referencing the proper page? What are you trying to do exactly?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:34, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi. I just wrote you on your page. The page was created as a redirect. Then I added my own content (which I had already created as a draft page) and removed the redirect. Then the other editor reverted me, and restored the redirect. I then reverted him, and stated that there should be a discussion as to whether the topic merited its own page, rather than his unilateral decision. As such, I self-nominated to insure there would be a discussion. When you reverted me, I think I accidentally thought you were him. I have no problem with there not being a discussion- I just wanted there to be a discussion rather than a de facto deletion through merger without any discussion, which is why I self-nominated, as I thought he was just going to keep reverting me otherwise. Infamia (talk) 08:38, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I think I see what you were trying to accomplish. Lets resume this discussion on my talk page; I'll be happy to explain what you should do in this situation. I'll see you there... :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:40, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of people pardoned by Donald Trump (November 13)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Primefac was:

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Primefac (talk) 13:18, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Pardon of Joe Arpaio
Is this page needed anymore? Can it be changed to redirect users to Pardon of Joe Arpaio now? We should generally keep only one location for the same article so that we don't complicate things by creating competing versions, updates, edit histories, and content revisions for the same article in two different locations. I suggest that we go ahead and redirect the draft to the article in the mainspace. Let me know if you have any objections or concerns so that I can address them. The principle of "the sooner, the better" is definitely key here, especially with this situation; resolving it manually is time-consuming and usually isn't done correctly. Thanks --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:32, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * No, it's not needed anymore. After I submitted the draft article under that title for review, the other editor created the re-direct, and I added the content there, so the draft is now unnecessary. Infamia (talk) 17:31, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Perfect; I've changed the draft to redirect users to the article on the mainspace. Thanks for getting back to me and letting me know. Cheers --  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:42, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Reminder on copying
When copying text from one wikipedia article to another, you have to provide attribution - see WP:Copying within Wikipedia. Galobtter (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. I had no idea of this. I will read the article. Infamia (talk) 19:08, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Cautioning message
I know you may disagree with atsme on that edit. I also disagree. But you're not helping your case by reverts. There is no need for the article to be instantly restored to its previous state. If you revert too much, you may get blocked for WP:editwarring. I'm sure we can get a consensus for the statements to be restored, but it doesn't need to happen instantly. Galobtter (talk) 06:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * He basically deleted 2/3 of the article and said "non-compliant." He's just trying to delete the article because he lost the deletion discussion. I don't even get what his problem is. Infamia (talk) 06:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * * she Remember WP:3RR (see the exemptions there if you want to know what cases you can repeatedly revert) and this is sanctioned article so WP:1RR might apply not sure. You look to be engaged in an edit war that could get you blocked. Yes I'd like to restore the content, but you can at least wait a few hours. There is nothing so urgent here that means one cannot wait a bit. Or you can ask an admin whether the AfD means that the content cannot be removed. Galobtter (talk) 07:30, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I hear you, and I'm trying to be calm about it, but my view here is that he can't use 1rr to delete nearly the entire article during an active deletion discussion. He's posted to Oswah's page to complain so I made my case there that he can't delete the entire article during a discussion, the consensus is strongly for keep, and he hasn't actually participated in the talk page discussion he wanted to have. Infamia (talk) 07:34, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

November 2017
Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. ''Do I have to do this again? As the competence is required essay says, "Be cautious when referencing this page, as it can be insulting to other editors." " So, if WP:COMPETENCE seems to apply to an editor, it is usually not appropriate to tell them so." "the primary purpose of this essay is not to present it to competence-lacking editors to let them know they are incompetent" You're essentially calling her incompetent.'' Galobtter (talk) 10:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * What exactly is your point in asking her (and sulfurboy) to read WP:COMPETENCE? It's meant to be quoted and linked in discussions of good faith editors inadvertently causing problems..not for giving a link for so called "incompetent" people to read. Galobtter (talk) 10:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I was a little over the top, especially with Sulfurboy. But her edits below which I just noticed deeply troubled me:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier&diff=810161728&oldid=810161546
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump–Russia_dossier&diff=809663502&oldid=809659332
 * In these edits, she claims (amongst other nonsense) that "we now KNOW that there was Russian interference to help CLINTON (!!!!) win the 2016 election": "Furthermore, the attention should be on the various investigations the dossier has triggered and actually resulted in evidence that support the allegations being made. We now know that Fusion GPS executives are being uncooperative with the investigation and have pleaded the 5th; the Clinton campaign funded part of the Steele dossier, there was Russian interference in the 2016 election favoring Clinton, and the FBI also funded part of that dossier."
 * She also alleges that "using the President's name" in Trump-Russia dossier is "POV-laden."
 * I am having trouble seeing how someone who believes that we "know" that the Russians were aiding Clinton in the 2016 election can edit political pages. While I would like to assume good faith, I am having difficulty seeing how to do so, given that she is spreading obvious disinformation and seems to think using the President's name in a dossier about him is laden with point of view.Infamia (talk) 11:39, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * there was Russian interference in the 2016 election favoring Clinton, and the FBI also funded part of that dossier. ... However that just means that she will be regularly overriden by consensus. That's not grounds for essentially a WP:TOPICBAN unless she starts ignoring consensus or edit-warring about it (see WP:DISRUPTSIGNS). Behaviour is what matters. Its fine to express whatever (excluding racism etc) views on topics. Galobtter (talk) 11:48, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I hear you. I'll back off. She evidently didn't actually want to discuss her proposed deletions anyway. Infamia (talk) 11:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * She's probably asleep lol. Galobtter (talk) 12:22, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. "I don't have time to deal with incompetent reviewers who clearly don't know how to read and who cite irrelevant policies." Natureium (talk) 15:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * this is not a personal "attack." We were discussing another editor, and I stated my grievance that said other editor had not read the page, and cited an irrelevant policy.Infamia (talk) 18:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing.  This edit was a unambiguous WP:PA: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pardon_of_Joe_Arpaio_(2nd_nomination)&diff=810175194&oldid=810174647 Atsme 📞📧 15:25, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * This is unambiguously not an "attack." I simply asked you to become informed about the topic prior to writing about it. Your edits indicated that you were unaware the article was not about Joe Arpaio, but was instead about the legal issues involving his pardon. You'll also note that the consensus was a landslide in my favor, and against you, indicating I was correct that you had not properly grasped the gravamen of the article. Infamia (talk) 18:29, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.

Unblock request: why am I blocked?

 * If there was a removal of any comments, it was accidentally done when I modified my block request per the suggestion of the user.I will check and restore the lost comments.


 * Advice. Read the WP:GAB as instructed in the unblock template. Your request as fashioned will be declined.  Tide  rolls  19:25, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * can you say more? I’ve not been told what i’ve been blocked for. I already said that I had used iP addresses before, so I’m not sure how that is a reason to block or abusing multiple accounts applies. Blocking admin has left no comment or explanation for his actions.Infamia (talk) 19:34, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * , how can he grovel and beg forgiveness if there is no block notice? There is no reason mentioned here why the user was blocked. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:37, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Modify your tone or you can have a discussion with yourself. Infamia, you were blocked for sockpuppetry.  Blaming others and referring to circumstances that have no bearing on the sockpuppetry provide no basis for any unblock.  Again, read the WP:GAB.  Tide  rolls  19:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Modify my tone? No. An unblock request is just that, making the user grovel for forgiveness. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:47, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * User is blocked for "Abusing multiple accounts", according to the block log. Drmies (talk) 19:38, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn’t think signing up for an account after using an IP address is abuse of multiple accounts. Is it? Infamia (talk) 19:41, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The situation you describe is not sockpuppetry. You may ping the admin here to ask for clarification, however that may be frustrating because in some instances they are prevented by policy from sharing their results.  You're better off rewording your unblock request addressing the block issue.  Tide  rolls  19:48, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Is there proof of the abuse? Was a CU done? Why isn't there a block notice here? It could very well be abuse, but how are we to know? Usually there is a link to the proof for a block, I don't think it's appropriate for an admin to just block on his say so, or without posting a notice and proof. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:43, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sir Joseph, what are you looking for? Admins typically block on their say-so--that's part of what being an admin is all about. I believe the blocking admin,, posted something on ANI. Drmies (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Have you asked the admin, Sir Joseph? Please, if your going to inject yourself make some effort to move the situation forward.  Tide  rolls  19:44, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You really do need to check your own tone. And yes, I did ask the admin. Why not check out AN/I where this is being discussed? And you now tell him he's blocked for sockpuppetry. How was he supposed to know that for his unblock request? And if he's blocked for sockpuppetry, was a CU done? Where is the proof of his sockpuppetry? Sir Joseph (talk) 19:47, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not on AN/I because I'm here attempting to advise the editor on how best to obtain unblock. As I said initially, this all advice.  Tide  rolls  19:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Infamia, if I were you I'd ask this user to stop "advocating" for you. With friends like that, you don't need enemies. Joseph, a block for sockpuppetry does not require CU. Drmies (talk) 19:49, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No need to insult me. I find your comment extremely unbecoming an admin and arbitrator. I'm not advocating for anyone. I just want transparency. JPG blocked this user but put no notice on this talk page and no reason or proof. How is this person supposed to accurately put in an unblock request when there is no reason for the block given? Sir Joseph (talk) 19:52, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You asked your question. What you think of my comment means nothing to me. Your block log speaks for itself, the operative word being "bludgeoning". Drmies (talk) 19:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Asking for an admin to clarify is bludgeoning? Sir Joseph (talk) 20:02, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * How are you even involved in this? I don't see anything wrong with their conduct as an admin. They've been entirely professional and explained the block. Natureium (talk) 20:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Let’s be frank Natureium: Aren’t you basically just upset because the community overwhelmingly agreed the article was a notable, exemplary contribution to the encylopedia, and rejected your views to the contrary (by a staggering margin of 13-2)? That’s no reason to be upset. Sometimes we are kist wrong, as you were unequivocally shown to be in the deletion discussion. That was no reason to go trolling for a revenge block. You lost, fair and square. Infamia (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * drmies, I’m not going to ask another iser to post or not post anything. He’s welcome to post what he likes, as far as I’m concerned.I don’t see a problem with his comments to begin with, and I find it unusual to say the least that you’d suggest another iser’s posts would somehow have any effect on my block. I didn’t engage in “sock puppetry”; I didn’t engage in “personal attacks” (I see plenty of sharply worded comments here without blocks). It seems to me the two editors who complained on me at AnI ar primarily upset that the community agreed with my criticisms of their views, (overwhelmingly, see the deletion discussion) and are seeking some pointless revenge-via-administrator by having me blocked. No, the administrator did not post an “explanation” at AnI (unless there is some new meaning of “explanation” that includes merely stating “user has been blocked.”)Infamia (talk) 20:04, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The explanation was . -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:08, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I was attempting a WP: Cleanstart, which should be honored. There was no sock puppetry, which implies the simultaneous use of multiple accounts. Those accounts are abandoned, as I elected a better name, and you will find no simultaneous use of accounts. In light of my valuable contribution to the community in the form of a new article that overwhelmingly passed AfD (12 votes to 2!!!!) it would seem its time to let bygones be bygones and unblock this account. Who can even remember what it is you’re all mad at me for to begin with? No one can. Forgoveness is the highest virtue. Infamia (talk) 20:17, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You need to actually read the rules in Clean start and you'll discover that you've violated it. Your new account started just two days ago, and you already called attention to yourself and got reported at ANI. That's not what "clean start" is about. It's about doing things the right way. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:23, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, Any user who has active bans, blocks or sanctions ... may not have a clean start.-- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:40, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * can you cite me an example of a user who has received a WP:cleanstart? I find your interpretation to be against the spirit of the rule, where, as here, a valued contributor has just contributed an outstanding, notable article which overwhelmingly passed the consesnsus to keep (a 13-2 stampede of which I observe you yourself voted among the yeas). In light of these galuable contributions, committment to excellence, and the inability of anyone to recall why I was even blocked to begin with (blessed are the forgetful), can we not say that the spirit of cleanstart permits, nay reqquirws, an unblock be given here?
 * Just the opposite. WP:CLEANSTART says, "Any user who has active bans, blocks or sanctions ... may not have a clean start." This account was created on 12 November, immediately after the previous account, Peacebroker, was blocked. And this is just the most recent instance of this person creating additional accounts after being blocked. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 21:23, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * And editing via IP after your block to continue your disruption will definitely lead to you NOT being unblocked. RickinBaltimore (talk) 21:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * 15:35, 9 November 2017 - created
 * 06:08, 10 November 2017 - indef'd
 * 06:08, 10 November 2017 - indef'd


 * 18:02, 11 November 2017 - created
 * 16:01, 14 November 2017 - indef'd
 * 16:01, 14 November 2017 - indef'd


 * 18:03, 11 November 2017 - created
 * 00:39, 12 November 2017 - indef'd
 * 00:39, 12 November 2017 - indef'd


 * 18:21, 11 November 2017 - created
 * 08:04, 12 November 2017 - blocked for 48
 * 20:13, 12 November 2017 - indef'd
 * 20:13, 12 November 2017 - indef'd


 * 20:51, 12 November 2017 - created
 * 16:01, 14 November 2017 - indef'd
 * 16:01, 14 November 2017 - indef'd


 * Just FYI. I can't find the user "WarriorForTruth". Maybe a spelling variant. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:24, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, a misspelling, it's Warrior for Truth. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 23:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, please drop the repeated "13-2 AfD" comments. That is not how AfD works. Please remember the first law of holes. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:21, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * , as much as I appreciate your attempt to do this without drama, it has--against your desire--led to some drama; note the überdramatic involvement of User:Sir Joseph. If this was meant as a CU block, it would have been good to note that, template and all; after all, if it is challenged it's going to be those poor, underpaid schmucks at ArbCom who have to deal with it. Don't you feel for them? I understand DENY, but maybe an SPI here wouldn't be a bad idea, or at least something in the log. Which was the first account?, this "Sourceror" was already blocked for "multiple accounts"--who were the others? And Infamia, if it's not clear to you, it's abundantly clear to all other Wikipedia editors, I hope, that this cannot be a case of CLEANSTART. As Sarek said, ... well, look at the policy. Drmies (talk) 23:35, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * See . Widr (talk) 06:45, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Uberdrama? You just told him that he should have put a template while blocking, which is all I asked for. You really need to ease up with your incivility. I understand you have a problem with me, but you need to get off your high horse. Sir Joseph (talk) 00:04, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Dude, it's not about you. The blocked sock doesn't need a template, and neither do you. It's for me. And if you understood why I have a problem with you, I wouldn't be having it. Drmies (talk) 00:59, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sock farmers don't need templates - they know exactly what they're doing. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * What I did was not "Sock puppetry", which plainly implies the use of multiple accounts at once. I simply created a new account per a fair interpretation of the spirit of WP: cleanstart, and there was never any overlap in usage of any account, as is clearly shown above. And the prior account itself was merely blocked because I had use a previous account, rather than do to any deficiencies in my edits, which were of the highest caliber. Yet this blocking based on who the editor is, rather than on the edits themselves, seems to fall afoul of WP: Comment on Content, not Contributors. Does the source of the contribution, in the end, really matter? Here we depart, in that I have consistently maintained it does not, while your actions all say otherwise. You all claim the source of an edit matters not; and yet in practice, I've seen nearly all of you revert edits for the sole reason of who contributed them, rather than due to your assessment of their value. Is this not grossly against the very spirit and highest purpose of your much-cited rules and policies? Surely my many valuable contributions to the project have by now outweighed any mere sins of the flesh which I may have committed ten-fold. And who can even remember what it was that I was even initially blocked for to begin with? No one can. You people have held this pointless grudge against me for so long that you seem to have forgotten just what it is you were even angry about in the first place, and yet you persist. Perhaps someday you can all judge me not by the color of my Username, but by the content of my contributions. You seem to have all neglected the fact that WP:Blocks are not punishment, and yet you continue to seek to punish without even remembering the reason why. Infamia (talk) 07:22, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * What are you planning to name your next account? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:40, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll tell you if you unblock me. Deal?Infamia (talk) 07:52, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nah, we'll just wait for it to show up. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:56, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

More possible socks
Just some examples, not intended to be a comprehensive list. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:57, 15 November 2017 (UTC)


 * 21:26, 14 November 2017 - firat used
 * 21:41, 14 November 2017 - blocked
 * 21:41, 14 November 2017 - blocked


 * 21:46, 14 November 2017 - first used
 * 21:46, 14 November 2017 - blocked
 * 21:46, 14 November 2017 - blocked


 * 21:49, 14 November 2017 - first used
 * 21:50, 14 November 2017 - blocked
 * 21:50, 14 November 2017 - blocked


 * 20:36, 15 November 2017 - first used
 * 20:38, 15 November 2017 - indef'd
 * 20:38, 15 November 2017 - indef'd

November 2017
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 * Page semi-protected due to block evasion. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:22, 16 November 2017 (UTC)