User talk:Inferno, Lord of Penguins/Sockpuppetry archive2

 On a side note to Hersfold and Spellcast - even though my question has been answered, I would still like your opinions on this whole subject. Thanks. Inferno,  Lord of   Penguins  21:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC) helpme Quick question - am I considered blocked, or banned? (This question is aimed primarily at User:Hersfold and User:Spellcast, so if you see this question, let them know, much obliged) because in the future, I may consider a clean start under a new name (see section in WP:SOCK), and I could if I wanted to right now, but if you say no, I'll leave entirely. Thanks in advance. (This is aimed at Hersfold and Spellcast because they are the blocking admins - I want their opinions) Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  20:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You're blocked, not banned. Bans must be decided upon by the community. &mdash; neuro (talk) 20:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw, I'll notify them. &mdash; neuro (talk) 20:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I kinda want their opinions as well, so thanks for letting them know. Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  20:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Saw what you did neuro - thanks :) Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  20:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:SOCK doesn't allow for a blocked or banned user to come back under a new username. It allows users to wipe the slate clean of past disgreements or poor behaviour; it does not allow blocked users to circumvent their block, because when you are blocked the person is blocked, not the account. The only difference between a block and a ban is that a ban is either decided proactively by the community or through inaction--no admin willing to unblock = ban. // roux   20:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. From what I read, that seemed like only banned users to me, but ok, I'll comply with that. Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  20:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No.. if that were the case, no block would ever work. Cheers. // roux   21:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, if it required a full reform into a constructive contributer, then I don't see why it wouldn't work (as why would a constructive contributer need to be blocked?). But anyways, don't wanna argue Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  21:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyways, if anybody has something to say, just post it, I still read wikipedia, and I log on, so I'll see any new messages. Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  21:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...I don't think any admins would unblock, I guess I'm banned.... Inferno,  Lord of   Penguins  21:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * They might in future, I for one wouldn't consider yourself banned - I've seen people who've done a lot worse than yourself reform. &mdash; neuro (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd just like to wish you luck for the future - you were very helpful & constructive on the occasions we interacted. DuncanHill (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's all I intended to be Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  21:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll be checking up on this later. Inferno,  Lord of   Penguins  03:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I've asked Hersfold to comment. Since this is what you want too, I'm placing the request on hold for now.  Mango juice talk 19:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm here, and reviewing. Hang on a bit. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 20:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)