User talk:Infrangible

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My RfA
Hi, Infrangible, and thanks for your participation in my RfA. I've withdrawn it, and will be writing up an "analysis" of it, which will soon be available at User:Giggy/RfA/Giggy when it's done. Please come around when you get the chance, and give me feedback on how I can improve. Thanks again, Giggy  UCP 04:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It was very close. I think a few months of positive edits would put you over. Don't give up, you're almost there! ~ Infrangible 03:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked
Hi, Infrangible, I would say that I have been editing on wikipedia for over a year now. But every time I upload a picture or edit a page (with a provided accurate source) I end up getting blocked. Why should I do to avoid being blocked.??? My IP number is 151.196.54.162


 * Hi 151.196.54.162, Don't give up. You know if you take your own picture of an album cover or something and indicate that it's yours, then no one should delete that. Here are some useful citation templates: Citation_templates, Category:Citation templates. If you get a user name, people seem to bother you less. Otherwise, just do your best and have fun. ~ Infrangible 12:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Elonka 2
Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project, and I'll try again in a few months! If you ever have any questions or suggestions for me, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best wishes, --Elonka 03:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You were robbed. This is a dark day for all humanity. ~ Infrangible 03:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment
Thank you for your comment on my RfA, which was successful. LyrlTalk C 00:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome work! You will do great. Congratulations. ~ Infrangible 01:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFA
I've left a support on your RfA because you seem a capable editor. Well done and I hope you get it. Onnaghar tl 11:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it, thank you. ~ Infrangible 01:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Formatting
Just a heads up - when replying at RFA (and indeed in any numbered list) you need to start with a hash character then use the colon to indent. If you don't use the # then it blows out the numbering. Just a handy hint - I've seen people opposed for less!! Pedro | Chat  13:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking out. We're all in it together. ~ Infrangible 01:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Images and copyright
Hi Infrangible. From some of the discussions around your RfA I'm not sure you understand what's wrong with your advice here. Its not actually an issue of being pro- or anti- fair use, there are some underlying assumptions in your advice that are problematic. First of all its unclear - if they did reupload a picture they had take themselves of the album cover, are you suggesting they could license it freely? That's simply wrong. To clarify a few points: Proper guidance should have focused on writing an acceptable fair use rationale, rather than suggesting photographing the original cover. At best that makes no difference, at worse (if the uploader claimed to release it under GFDL or as PD) it would have lead to Wikipedia having an image with an invalid license on it. I hope that explains more clearly why editors have found fault with your comment. Please do ask me any questions you might have about the above. Best wishes, WjBscribe 01:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Photos of 2 dimensional works are usually governed by the copyright in the original. If the original was in the public domain and I photograph it, I can't claim copyright in my image. Similarly if the image was copyrighted, the original copyright holder retains the copyright. If the taking of the photograph adds an extra artistic elememt (i.e. is more than an exact copy) both the original copyright holder and the new photographer would have rights in the final image. In any event, there is no way that taking a photo of a copyright image could give the rights in the photo to the photographer.
 * 2) Copyright images can be included on Wikipedia under a fair use rationale if they meet the requirements of the policy - WP:FAIR. In practice for album covers that means: (1) identifying the copyright holder, (2) stating that their commercial rights are unaffected by the use here (e.g. our image is of a smaller size, lower res etc.), (3) that the image cannot be replaced with a free one (self-evident) and (4) explaining what the image adds to the article that makes it necessary to use a non free image in the first place.

Your RfA
I have closed your RfA. I am afraid there was no consensus to promote you. Please address the concerns and feel free to reapply in the future. Good luck. --Deskana (banana) 02:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry it failed. Try again soon. Politics rule 07:37, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Better luck next time. Try in another two months. Bearian 03:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

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