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ancestry in royal Norway
I wrote a detailed reply to your inquiry under Talk:Haakon VII of Norway 217.140.193.123 11:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Battles of Norway
Hi! Thank you for creating and populating Category:Battles of Norway. A minor point - Category:Battles of the Vikings was intended to be a temporary category until the battles were properly ordered, and should be removed when you add a more specific category tag. Kirill Lokshin 14:49, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikiproject Battles. I hope you enjoy the group.

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LordAmeth Kirill Lokshin Philip Baird Shearer R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) And of course, me.

Happy wiki-ing.

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Storm class patrol boat sources
Would it be possible to add some sources to your new article. I guess you will have the easiest access to them right now and it helps later with verification. You can use footnotes to do this or there are several other ways. Give me a shout if you want help. Mozzerati 17:04, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Image copyright problem RE: Image:Leif Welding-Olsen.jpg
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If you have any questions, just leave a message on my talk page. Thanks again. &#126;MDD4696 00:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Norwegian Defense Web Page information
In reference to your comment on my talk page: I have tried to find a tag which fits, but there isn't one and I don't know how to make one. I have emailed the administrators of www.mil.no and the reply was that all information on the page could be used as long as the source was mentioned. It wasn't too clear if this also applied to pictures, but pictures are information in my view. mil.no carries no copyright tags/claims. Wikipedia is intended for non-profit, educational use. I therefore do not see wikipedia as being in violation here. I only think it might be a problem if the information was misused.

This issue is probably also valid for all info/pictures from any Norwegian government web page. I am not sure about Norwegian copyright rules in general, but they are most likely the same as any other Western European country. I would like a special tag for Norwegian government/defense force pictures, but as I said I am not sure about how to make it or how to formulate the correct legal languate. If someone wants to check this stuff with odin.no or mil.no and then make a tag I would be very happy. Inge 16:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for contacting me. I did some more research and came up with a brief paper categorizing a number of countries by copyright law with regard to government works. It lists Norway as a country where there are not copyrights on government works.


 * The Commons states that "Photos of people may not be published without their consent unless either ... the image illustrates a current event of interest the general public." That may be a mistake--I don't see why past events of interest to the public would be excluded. A portion of Norwegian copyright law has been translated into English, available in HTML or PDF format. Also, the U.S. Library of Congress seems to have a good Norwegian Law portal set up as well.


 * I don't speak Norwegian, and I'm completely unfamiliar with their laws, but if you'd like to create a template for works of the Norwegian Government, those pages would be a good place to start. I'm sure there are people at [Wikipedia talk:Copyrights] who'd be willing to help you furthur.


 * If you have received permission from the site to license the work under the GFDL, take a look at Successful requests for permission. I will tag the image as public domain as a work of the Norwegian Government for now, since they said it would be ok with attribution and this is a non-profit, educational use. If you have any furthur comments or questions, be sure to let me know!


 * This discussion will be copied to Image talk:Leif Welding-Olsen.jpg. &#126;MDD4696 22:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Underprosjekt Militærhistorie
Hei! På norsk wikipedia har vi et aktivt underprosjekt militærhistorie. Jeg har lagt merke til at du har bidratt på lignende ting her på en:. Hvis du er interessert i å skrive litt på morsmålet, så er du hjertelig velkommen! Harald Hansen 07:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Viking warships.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Viking warships.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Admrboltz (T | C) 21:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * See PD-NOGov --Admrboltz (T | C) 20:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes I know this template exists. I requested it, but it has not been legally assesed. Before anyone uses it the matter must be properly cheched out. For instance I believe it is possible to use images from www.mil.no as they told me all info from this page could be used freely, but other norwegian agencies might see this differently.Inge 22:21, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history: Coordinator elections
--Loopy e 04:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Løwendals galley in a storm.jpg
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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. cohesion &#9733; talk 09:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:HNoMY_Norge.jpg
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Image copyright problem with Image:Rune_Gjeldnes_in_Antarctica.jpg
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Nordic Cross and Southern Cross flags
Hallå Inge. I saw that you are the creator of the article on Nordic Cross Flags. Why not make a similar page that depicts Southern Cross flags, as well? I promise to assist wholeheartedly! =} //Big Adamsky 12:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, why not.:) Inge 12:19, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Now it needs a good search for "unknown" flags:) Inge 13:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent! Perhaps there are more "flag families" that could be added. And the Flags of non-sovereign nations and other entities and groups that use flags to graphically symbolize/represent of themselves, some of whom could also fit into those articles (e.g. Mercosur and Garifuna). //Big Adamsky 13:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hooked on flags of Norway now. Very interesting subject, and possibly a never-ending article...Inge 17:21, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Royal Standard of Norway
Hi Inge. I'm confused by something in your Royal Standard of Norway stub. The article says the Royal Standard of Norway is used by the King of Norway yet the caption to the picture says that that's the standard of the Crown Prince (who I assume is not the King). Why is the article illustrated with a flag that's not relevant to it (or is the caption wrong?) Regards Tonywalton  | Talk 15:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Aha! I see you've fixed it now.  Cheers.  Tonywalton  | Talk 15:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * OK :) Inge 15:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Inge, do you know if the Old Kingdom had a flag? //Big Adamsky 21:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

New article: List of flag names
Can you think of any others to add here? =J //Big Adamsky 02:27, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have added a few.Inge 02:49, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Some more flag business....
Hello there. Nice job on the history of the flag of Norway, keep it up! I was wondering, do you think any of these flag files (uploaded by me, following your example) may be useful in relevant articles, e.g. Nordic Cross - or are they perhaps too obscure and uncommon? //Big Adamsky 19:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the suggestion and good start!
 * Well I did start the article Flag of Nord-Norge, but I might regret it. I am not sure. I like flags :) and I don't see any harm in adding them, but at the same time there is this notability thing. I'm from Vestlandet, but I have never ever seen or heard of this flag [[Image:Unofficial flag of Vestlandet.gif|20px]]. Allthough me hearing of a flag doesn't deside whether it is notable or not :). I haven't heard of the Båhuslen flag either, but I have heard of the flag of Jemtland [[Image:Unofficial flag of Jämtland.gif|20px]] being used by some Jemtlanders. So some of these flags actually have a group of people using them and some have their creator as only "fan". But if you want to add them, I say add them. Then we can find out more about them as we go.Inge 20:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I could not agree more. We will just have to add the ones that seem reasonably popular and well associated with the region or people they purpurtedly represent/symbolize. PS: Sjekk mailen din. :) //Big Adamsky 21:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Takk for mailen. Maybe it's time to start Flags of Norwegian subdivisions, Flags of Swedish subdivisions and so on. The official county flags of Norway are already most of them gathered at List of flags of Norway so the process has begun. Inge 11:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Anytime. :) There are already articles about unofficial regions and unofficial flags, so I guess we could just fill up those articles. There is of course the question of notability... Oh well. ;P Anyway, what do you reckon about this? //Big Adamsky 14:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, the flags could be added to those articles as well. I was thinking more along the lines of making articles primarily about the official flags of the counties and municipalities. As they are approved by the Government of Norway they are certainly official and reliable information is possible to be found. I don't know what the case is in Sweden but I think most counties and municipalities there have official flags as well.? Then the unofficial flags could be added in a special section in the same article. Inge 14:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The modern French regions, like those of other subnational administrative units, will sometimes use the historical flags (or emblems on flags) of traditional regions. But many will use newly designed "futuristic" logos devoid of historical or heraldic symbolism, that quite frankly resemble corporate logos more than anything flag-like in appearance. //Big Adamsky 15:09, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok. I don't know much about french flags. Personally I can't think of any reason why the french have done it that way. The new flags are ugly and as you say resemble corporate logos. At the same time they could have used nice historic flags. The Norwegian subdivisions with the opportunity to revive an old coat of arms or flag have jumped at it. (You might have noticed i have started Flags of Norwegian subdivisions).Inge 15:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:HNoMS Gribb of Tjeld class.jpg
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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Shyam ( T / C ) 15:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:HNoMS Fridtjof Nansen OPV.jpg
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Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Shyam ( T / C ) 15:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Inge, thanks for the response. I have gone through your link on copyrights talk page and it seems that you have created images in a pretty amount related to Norwegian government and defense services. I have tagged one of the uploaded images by you. But don't remember exactly what it was? But it starts with HNoMS. Reason to tag this image was it was pretty old as per the link, so i tagged the image with . One bigger problem to tag other images is the language which I am unable to understand whatever written on the website and they are not too old. I think you can use fair use for these images, i am not sure as I don't know what the law says exactly. If I get any solution for these images, I will surely let you know. Regards, Shyam  ( T / C ) 22:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Images from www.mil.no
Please see Wikipedia_talk:Copyrights. Can you help?Inge 21:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems to be going pretty well, I don't know Norwegian though, so I probably can't contribute much :D - cohesion  t 05:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Ny-Sunnmøre?
Inge, do you have any inside knowledge on this?  // Big Adamsky •  BA's talk page 10:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Answer on Talk:Erik the Red's Land Inge 11:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I
delivered by Loopy e 04:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

New municipal and regional emblems after 2007?
Hello Inge! I hope you are doing well. Here's a question that you may be able to answer. :)  // Big Adamsky •  BA's talk page 14:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm fine thanks:) I have answered on Talk:Subdivisions of Denmark. Inge 14:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Villages in Sogn og Fjordane
Hi! Thanks for adding information to the article List of villages in Norway. However, the work on splitting the list into sublists have started (the list got a new design today, check it out). In the case of Sogn og Fjordane, the villages should be added to List of villages in Sogn og Fjordane. Thanks, Punkmorten 11:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Why the broad removal of Category:History of Norway designations
Why the broad removal of Category:History of Norway designations? Williamborg 02:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I have been trying to clean up that category a bit. The category should in my view only contain subcategories, the main articles on Norwegian history and articles we are unable to fit in subcategories. I have removed several articles which were also listed in a subcategory of Category:History of Norway. Others have been moved to the apropriate category. If I've made any mistakes please let me know. Inge 13:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Appreciate the explanation. The logic appears sound. Let me test it by seeing if all the ones I've observed do roll up to Category:History of Norway. Thanks = Williamborg 03:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Good show. I support your change. Williamborg 03:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking. Inge 13:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Ebla image
What part of Ebla does your Image:Ebla.JPG display?

Thanks for any indication!

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II
The April 2006 issue of the project newsletter is now out. You may read this issue or change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you by following the link. Thanks. Kirill Lok s h in 18:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)