User talk:Innaira

Speedy deletion of Medical tourism in Israel
A tag has been placed on Medical tourism in Israel, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Business' FAQ for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 17:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of medicaltourism in israel
Hi, There is nothing in the content that warrents deletion... in fact I already have one example of another company that did exactly the same and it does not seem that their page is marked for deletion...pls. see 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imer 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Medical_Evaluation_and_Referral and tell me the difference, the content of our page describes medical tourism in Israel and nothing more. The content was prepared by our PR agency and not copied from anywhere. And as for the external link... it is the same as imer.biz who does eacatly what we do... is this fair? I don't think so... and this is only one example...I can given you others if you so choose... Respectfully your, Ira —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innaira (talk • contribs) 14:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Ira,


 * I tagged the article you mentioned above for deletion, as it was indeed merely an advertisement page with no claim to notability whatsoever. I can't look back which article you posted, but i think the problem actually lies in the fact that it was created by a PR agency, as most times those companies create content that reads like an advertisement. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it does not allow any page that seems merely made to advertise a company.


 * Now, i assume that you still want a page about the company you represent. First and foremost, the company must adhere to Notability guidelines, and more specific, to the guidelines for Companies. In short you can describe this as: What did this company do to warrant an encyclopedic article? As an example: "The company is currently the market leader in the health care branch for the middle east." is a good argument why a company is notable, a claim that states "We do a good job providing health services" is obviously not good.


 * A second requirement is that the claims are Sourced by articles or web content independent from the company. An article in the New York Time that sources a claim is most times an excellent reference. An article that comes from your own website or press agency is an example of a bad source. Last, the article must be written in a Neutral point of View. I cant stress this last point enough. If the article is mainly a list of products and representatives, or if it is written in wording that mainly makes it an advertisement, means that it will simply be blasted away as Spam. A very bad line would be: " Our company, XYZ, is highly regarded for its speed, accurateness and easy of use". A good version of this line would be "XYZ is a company involved in research and development for medical equipment in the middle east".


 * If you are sure the company meets the above guidelines, and adapted the article to reflect that, you might want to post it at Innaira/. Just drop me a note when this is done, and ill have a look at it to determine if it matches the most common guidelines. Of course, you are most welcome to post it back directly into the article space (As opposed to creating a sub page), but once its in the article space, it might be subjected to deletion again. Then again, if the article is really ok, it simply won't be deleted.


 * Kind regards, and apologies for the long read,
 * Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 14:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Medical tourism in Israel
Hi,

I will revert back to you with something a bit more substancial thanks Truely Frustrated Ira —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innaira (talk • contribs) 17:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, i will see you around then. You might actually be interested in the following page: Kinetic%20Concepts%20Inc. This is also a medical company, which article complies perfectly to the guidelines. It is sourced, asserts notability, and is written with a neutral point of view in mind. It might give a nice starting point for your own article, or at least an idea what is considered to be a good article.


 * Kind regards,
 * Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 17:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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IMS Global
Hi, Just out of curiosity does this Wiki page a good article or should it be deleted? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMS_Global Ira —Preceding unsigned comment added by Innaira (talk • contribs) 14:58, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, the article your linked does meet the guidelines it had to meet. However, there is a small difference with this article and other business related articles as this is a not for profit organization. Rules on non-profit are quite relaxed, which means they only have to cite sources to establish notability. Also, a non profit business has much, MUCH more lenience regarding advertising rules. In fact, if they state what they do, its merely a core part of the article. If a for profit business states the same, its quite often regarded as advertising. Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 18:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)