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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 10
 News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (October 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 10th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

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Have a great November, --DannyS712 (talk) 22:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Split screen
Hi, I see you're working on Split screen (video games) and redirected Split screen (computing) to Split screen, I just wanted to ask if you could take a look at Split screen when you're done as added Split screen (computing) to the page which results in a circular redirect (as well as some content not really appropriate for readers, such as "most of the article formerly (mis)named"). Thanks! Schazjmd  (talk)  23:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #11
Welcome to the eleventh newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

General news

 * Expanding to more wikis: the team is preparing to deploy Growth features to Ukrainian and Hungarian Wikipedias. Wikis that already have the features are Czech, Korean, Arabic, Vietnamese, and Basque Wikipedias.  If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together if your wiki is eligible. Then you can go through the checklist to start the process of configuring the features.
 * Mentor training: we tried out our first training for mentors with the Czech community, so that experienced users can build skills that help them retain newcomers.
 * The guide for mentors has been updated. Translations are welcomed!

Help panel results
The help panel was first deployed to newcomers in January 2019, and we have now finished analyzing data to determine its impact. A brief summary is below, and more in-depth information can be found here (in English).
 * In summary, although we have seen a good amount of usage of the help panel, the help panel has not shown an increase in activation (whether a user makes their first edit) or retention (whether a user returns to edit again).
 * This is a disappointing result, and our team has discussed potential reasons for the result and ideas for the future. Although we have many ideas for how to improve the help panel, we have decided to keep our attention on the newcomer homepage and newcomer tasks projects for the coming months.
 * We'll be using the help panel as part of the newcomer tasks project: using it to guide newcomers while they complete suggested edits.
 * We welcome questions and thoughts about this on the project's talk page.

Newcomer tasks deployment



 * The first version of the newcomer tasks workflow (V1.0) will be deployed in the next weeks on our 4 priority wikis. This version will suggest articles to edit based on maintenance templates.  In this first version, we expect many newcomers to initiate the workflow, but not many to select articles to edit or complete edits.  We expect future versions of the feature to increase those behaviors.
 * We're excited about this project because the majority of newcomers visit their newcomer homepage, and this will be the first element of the homepage that clearly asks the newcomer to start editing.
 * These are the next two versions of the feature, which are already being planned:
 * V1.1 (topic matching): will allow newcomers to choose topics of interest (such as Art, Music, Sports, or Technology) to personalize their suggestions. After evaluating several approaches, we have decided to use a new ORES model built by the WMF Scoring team.  The model will automatically identify the topic area of each article.  We expect this to increase how often newcomers select articles to edit.
 * V1.2 (guidance): once newcomers arrive on an article to edit, we will use the help panel to provide guidance about how to complete the editing task. We expect this to increase how many newcomers actually complete productive edits.
 * The project page includes links to the designs of the workflow, and we welcome questions and thoughts on the talk page.

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Insertcleverphrasehere
Hello, you insert wrote article Pharmanutra is written as an advertising. Why do you say that? The article is neutral and it has much references by newspapers--Kaspo (talk) 13:40, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Even in the first sentence it reads "generating considerable interest in the market, closing the first day of trading with a leap of +40%" [2] Its products most famous are Cetilar and Sucrosomial Iron [3] holding 50% of the market share for iron supplements in Italy." This reads as intentional puffery. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:34, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I inserted that sentence to evidence the notability if you think that is an ad we can delete the sentence.--Kaspo (talk) 18:08, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Puffery does not evidence notability, Notability is defined by the topic's coverage in reliable sources. See WP:42 for a succinct explanation. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  (click me!)    18:12, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft
The title should be changed to "List of prescription drug prices". How many sources do you want in the draft in order to move it back. I think students would want to edit it in the future. The sooner it is moved to article space the sooner it can be expanded by more editors. QuackGuru ( talk ) 13:32, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , First of all, this article seemed more of a veiled attempt as bashing 'Big Phrama' (itself not a neutral term; that was used throughout the article previously). That has largely been fixed, and more sources for individual drugs have been added. Now the issue is more of a structural one. It is still not a "list of drug prices" (a topic is likely too broad for one article anyway and prices change day to day), it is a list of obscenely expensive drugs. Currently the topic could include Ibuprofen, at $0.01 a dose, which obviously doesn't fit with what the intention is. We might be able to have a list on such a topic, though we will need some consideration what the title would be and what the cutoff point would be. The problem is, I'm not sure that we can define what 'too expensive' is, I had a look for sources but can't really find any consensus on the topic.
 * Basically the idea behind this list is poorly formed and needs defining before releasing it into the wild, or else it will only ever be a partial and incomplete hodgepodge of random medicines. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:49, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Also, drug prices are wildly different in different regions and countries of the world, how are we going to address that issue? —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:51, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The issue is notability. If it is notable it belongs in article space. Editors are allowed to create stubs. You can search for different prices in different countries. I am not obligated to make the article perfect. The best way for it to improve is move it to article space for others to expand it. QuackGuru ( talk ) 19:49, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , the notability rules for lists are... strange. Making ill-concieved lists with an unclear and overly broad scope does not guarantee you automatic notability. See WP:LISTN. This isn’t a standalone list, it is a broad category, and there is no present consensus on how to assess the notability or suitability of such lists. As I said, in its current form it seems too broad a scope and unclear as to what exactly it is trying to be a list of: (Canadian or USA prices? Do we just list all the prices, they change all the time and might be different even at different places in the same country.) listing prices is hard, and the only way this list will work is if it is clearly defined what the parameters are supposed to be. As is, it is unworkable. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    09:24, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It is supposed to be a list of fluctuating prescription drug prices worldwide. It is a stub but that does not mean it should be held hostage in draftspace. A few editors can't make it into a high quality article. It needs to be back to main space and allow many editors to work on it. It should not be hidden away. QuackGuru ( talk ) 16:35, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Well, a "list of fluctuating prescription drug prices worldwide" is completely unmanageable. It would be constantly out of date at best, and at worst would be a fertile ground for edit warring. Even the title doesn't make sense. Prescription drugs where? In some countries certain drugs are prescription only, in other countries the same drug is over the counter. How about Marijuana? It is certainly a prescription drug in some places, but in others is an illicit substance; should we list the price to buy it over the counter in Amsterdam or the price on the black market in New Zealand? Please try to understand what I'm trying to say.
 * We have a List of drugs; it is a list of lists of other types of drugs, and is extremely complex (as would be expected as there are many thousands of drugs worldwide). Can you imagine trying to take all of these drugs, figure out which are prescription drugs, and somehow agree on a consensus for what the prices for all of them will be? It isn't possible.
 * I won't move it back to mainspace. You are free to submit it to articles for creation, or to contest my move to draft space by reverting it and moving it back to your preferred title in main space (if so I'll be taking it to articles for deletion though). —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:11, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Where is the article about "List of prescription drug prices" in mainspace? If there is no such article in mainspace then there should be one. QuackGuru ( talk ) 17:19, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , As I've said repeatedly, such an article would be entirely unworkable. I can't stop you from moving the draft at Draft:List of drug prices to mainspace under that title, but I'll tell you now that I'll be taking it to Articles for Deletion for a discussion if so. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It is workable if more editors were given a chance to expand it. An article does not need to have prices updated every month or every year. QuackGuru ( talk ) 17:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Please answer me this for this list: what is a prescription drug? You've started listing prices from different times, what about different places? Drug prices vary wildly by country in some cases being a few dollars where in other countries they cost hundreds. What about government subsidies in countries like New Zealand (where I live), where most drugs that are prescribed are massively discounted but the governemnt foots most of the bill? What do we do in these cases? All of these need answers so that the scope of the list can be defined before a bunch of people start editing the list with different opinions on what should be listed, or else it will just become a hodgepodge of random info. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I included a note for the scope. See "For each prescription drug include the name of the drug, brand name, and price. Also include prices from various countries when available." When new sources are presented for other countries just summarise what they say. There are thousands of drugs that can be added to the list. One editor can't add all of them by themselves. QuackGuru ( talk ) 17:46, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Tens of thousands. And even a multitude of editors won't be able to keep up. Also there is still no definition of a 'prescription drug', which is different in every jurisdiction. In any case, As I've said I will not be moving it to mainspace, but you are free to do so yourself. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    17:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * There is no reason to keep up with current pricing. No article needs prices updated every month or year. There is no need for a definition of a 'prescription drug'. Just summarise what each source said is the usual practice. A different definition for what is a 'prescription drug' seems to be irrelevant. A long list of drug prices is workable if more editors participated in expanding it. Hiding it will not help improving it. QuackGuru ( talk ) 22:40, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , The ball is in your court. I'm done discussing this. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    03:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

December events with WIR
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 11
 News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (November 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 11th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

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 * Cscr-featured.svg Enterprisey's reply-link


 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Evad37's Thanky* SuperHamster's CiteUnseen* Mattflaschen's Compare link.js
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 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Twinkle has received multiple updates
 * Evad37's rater is now at version 2; see the announcement here

Open tasks
 * For those who haven't noticed, per T234576, using  instead of   no longer works

Miscellaneous
 * Following a discussion, XFDcloser is now available as a gadget
 * Evad37's extra.js collection of helper functions is now available as MediaWiki:Gadget-libExtraUtil.js
 * Twinkle's morebits is now a gadget, and is easier to use in as a dependency in other scripts (see here for more)
 * Last month's issue misidentified the creator of the new EditWarChecker script; it was created by Evad37

Pending requests
 * A button to mark templates in the TfD holding cell as ready for deletion
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Enjoy your thanksgiving --DannyS712 (talk) 08:22, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

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Note about autopatrolled redirects RfC
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019). Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
 * Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

Technical news
 * Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 2 December 2018 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous
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BFR
That was a gutsy closure and merge. I'm sorry I misjudged your perception of consensus. Peace, Rowan Forest (talk) 19:41, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the kind words. I don't often invoke WP:IAR, but it had become clear that we were only delaying because of bureaucratic reasons and that everyone was in agreement what the consensus was. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    02:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed
Hello, Insertcleverphrasehere

Thank you for creating Sanneke Vermeulen.

User:Insertcleverphrasehere, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~.

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—  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    21:50, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm. This is troubling to see... Barkeep49 (talk) 22:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I know you just closed off the tasks but I don't see a reason ICPH got this message - it should have gone to User:Simeon. Could I ping your team when I file the phab ticket? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:09, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , In the 'send a message', if you already reviewed the article it gives you the option to send it to the reviewer. It shouldn't give this option to you if you were the one that reviewed it. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    22:32, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Also, It is obviously using the wrong template. even if you wanted to send it to the reviewer the template as used is inappropriate. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    22:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well that's the thing. I believe it's the same template regardless of whether it ends up to the reviewer or the creator. So we need to modify the template to fit both situations. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:22, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Also, 'reviewer' should not be the default of the drop down. It should default to the author. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    23:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I hadn't noticed that they added that drop down. I actually think that's great. I also disagree - for reviewed articles I think the default should be the reviewer. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:42, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Ok. fair enough, but it shouldn't list yourname if you were the reviewer... this is going to be happening a lot. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    21:07, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course

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<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:#fff; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px; " class="plainlinks"> 豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune. このミラPはInsertcleverphrasehereたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！ フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE! ミラP 03:38, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Deletion The New York Times Non-Fiction Best Sellers of 2020
Hi, why did you delete this article? There's already a number 1 for the first week of 2020, have you checked the link? --Marcetw (talk) 22:09, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If you don't know how the NYT list works, please let me know, not just redirect an article. Ok? --Marcetw (talk) 22:10, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , Apologies. I did a search for the list and missed it. I had not checked the link as I did not realise it was the link for the first week of next year. It might be good to put an archive link of that page on the first entry to make it more clear. I was reviewing a few other articles at the same time for jumping the gun off the whole list of 2020 thing. Sorry to catch you in the crossfire. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    23:21, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, Insertcleverphrasehere!
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Dreamy Jazz • Newslinger • Rosguill
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Deor • Spartaz • Xeno
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CheckUser changes
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Oversight changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
 * A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
 * Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.

Arbitration
 * The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
 * Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , , , , , , ,.

Miscellaneous
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RE:Ager Vaticanus
Hallo Insertcleverphrasehere, and thanks for your post! Already done... :-) Alex2006 (talk) 10:21, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , Nice! —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    10:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

falcon 9
i expressed much criticism over the discussion, but tanks to ask me on final approval.

i hardly make changes in these pages because they are so big that can make mistakes and someone else have to come to correct me, so double work--Dwalin (talk) 12:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Years in the Philippines
There is a bug in the Years in the Philippines; I suspect you didn't intend to WP:PROD 2021, but 2021 in the Philippines, which apparently never existed. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 09:07, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes... that is correct. Apologies. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    09:15, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Insertcleverphrasehere, I am relatively new to Wikipedia and I was researching all the areas of Wikipedia and I went through WP:NPR and I'm interested in it, I've been adding to short descriptions to new articles but it seems NPR is more than adding short descriptions, so can you give me some tips on it?Antila333 (talk) 15:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


 * , New Page Review is for somewhat more advanced Wikipedia editors, who already know many of the policies and guidelines related to what should be on wikipedia and what should not. Ultimately, it is triage; rather than an article improvement process it strives merely to identify what new articles should not be on Wikipedia and deal with them accordingly. AfC may be somewhere you can help, though you still need a good working knowledge of the notability guidelines to know where expansion is productive and where the topic simply isn't notable. See the box at right for more info on notability in general and also a more specific dive into notability of various categories of topics. Participating in discussions at WP:AFD is also a good place to learn notability guidelines.
 * If you just want to expand articles, perhaps the WP:Article Rescue Squadron, could be a place to start.
 * Cheers and good luck. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    18:48, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 January 2020
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February with Women in Red
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Ray Courtemanche Jr.
I don't need that message on my talk page. I created this article because he meets WP:NMOTORSPORT for competing in one of the 3 touring series of NASCAR (Truck Series). <b style="background:#006A4D; padding:2px"> NASCARfan0548  ↗ </b> 04:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , a one line stub with a single source to a statistics page is not acceptable. It may meet an SNG, but that's not an excuse for creating a stub that fails the second pillar of Wikipedia. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    04:38, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Page patrol
Please stop adding the tags to those articles and my talkpage. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * This is now becoming disruptive. If you continue, you could be blocked from editing. Please reply here to state you understand this. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please see the NPP process, particularly the NPP flowchart. If you follow it through theser is a specific action pointed out that recommends adding the 'more refs' tag. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    18:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , As an autopatrolled user, you shouldn't be creating single source stubs. If I wasn't patrolling 'reviewed' articles, nobody would have even noticed. Yes, they meet an SNG, but they still require multiple sources for verifiability. I'll stop messaging your talk page, but I'm going to keep tagging the articles. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    18:57, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Where does it say that I shouldn't? I've been doing this for the best part of 15 years, with nearly 70,000 new pages, so this is news to me. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:58, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , All articles require multiple sources. Period. This is enshrined in the highest levels of WP policy (even the 5 pillars says that all articles should be sourced to "sources" (plural). I realise that they meet SNGs and am not going to require that the articles meet the GNG as created, but two independent sources are not hard to come by. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    19:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "but two independent sources are not hard to come by" - then by all means find them and add them.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:02, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , not my job... and more importantly, your articles don't even use the NPP queue! You can't expect NPP to clean up your articles when they aren't even expected to see them! —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    19:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

"The Page Curation process is for identifying articles which do not meet the criteria for inclusion and to tag them for attention" - Which all of my articles do meet the criteria for inclusion. Please find something more productive to do with your time. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am following the process, please provide better sourcing to your articles to meet the bare minimum as required by Wikipedia policy. As an Autopatrolled user, this is part of the social contract. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    19:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There's no such thing a "social contract"! WP:HOUND is also a policy, which this feels very much like to me. Maybe focus your time on new articles by new editors instead. And stop pining me, please.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not checking your articles specifically, I was just checking through new articles in the side feed. You created like 10 of them with the same issues in the space of 5 minutes. My side feed script waits 10 min before articles show on it (to allow time for users to clean up initial submissions and A1/A3). That's all the tags came 10 min after submission. You'll notice in my contributions other edits to other articles immediately before and after yours. I'm literally just patrolling new articles, your's just had issues, that's not my fault and it isn't harassment to tag them. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    19:12, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , please stop removing appropriate maintenence tags. I'm trying to find sources, but where I can't, the tag is appropriate. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) (click me!)    19:28, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:30, 30 January 2020 (UTC)