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Maafa 21
Hi, Instaurare.

It appears that you may be the originator of the Maafa 21 article. I was wondering if you have any interest in its current progress/condition...

-- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 17:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * He is subject to an indefinite topic ban regarding abortion, per this agreement about conditions imposed on a return from being blocked. He cannot help with the article. Binksternet (talk) 18:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * This is correct, but I believe I am perfectly capable of answering the question myself. Instaurare (talk) 19:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * What's the policy on stalking? Yikes! -- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * This talk page is on my watchlist. Binksternet (talk) 19:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * That doesn't mean you have to answer questions directed at me. Instaurare (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * AKA "stalking". -- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 19:38, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Anyhow, Instaurare, any input that you would like to offer to me would be appreciated.

A lot of action is going on at Maafa 21 and has been over the past few months. I'm trying to keep the article balanced, but a couple of editors (your stalker included) are determined to keep it completely one-sided--i.e. silencing support of the documentary and magnifying the opposition. I do not want to reverse the current tone by silencing opposition; I simply wish to give both views the weight they deserve. My research on the internet has shown that support for the film is both widespread and diverse, whereas opposition is limited to groups and individuals who are decidedly pro-choice.

I don't know how much you are able to be involved, but if you can give me advice on how to stay out of trouble, I would really appreciate it! Thanks!

-- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 19:49, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Beleg, I am currently under a topic ban so I can't help in any way on the article. But if you need advice regarding other matters don't hesitate to contact me! Instaurare (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Understood. We'll keep in touch.  God bless. -- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 20:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Kirk Cameron
Hi, and a belated Welcome to Wikipedia!

Thank you for participating in the editing of the Kirk Cameron article, but it is not appropriate to blank valid, sourced content from Wikipedia articles without a valid rationale, nor edit war with others, and the edit history to that article shows you removing material that indeed appears valid for inclusion, and doing so repeatedly after those edits were reverted: ,

You indicated in an edit summary for the first edit that the material was an "excess", "poorly sourced" and dealt "primarily with Comfort". In fact, the material deals with the debate in which both Cameron and Comfort were equal participants, as they are both partners in Way of the Master. The same applies to WotM's publication of a version of On the Origin of Species. The material is not poorly sourced, as it is supported by citations of U.S. News & World Report, the National Center for Science Education, and an interview conducted with Cameron by People magazine, etc. (While relying on magazines such as People would not be appropriate for unsubtantiated rumor or gossip, an interview that Cameron himself agreed to with them is perfectly fine.)

As for the WotM source, articles may include material supported by primary sources, so long as the articles are not based primarily on them. Because the material deals with the WotM's position with regard to the arguments they used in their May 5, 2007 debate with the RRS, relying on them for this is perfectly acceptable.

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 * Hi again. Are you still participating in the discussion at Talk:Kirk Cameron? Nightscream (talk) 13:23, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes I am, sorry, I haven't looked at my watchlist for a few days. I will respond at some point when I have time to discuss it properly. Thanks! Instaurare (talk) 18:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Are you going to continue the discussion? Happy Holidays. :-) Nightscream (talk) 03:55, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012
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Edit War
I don't want to get into an edit war with you, but the changes you made to my property cited additions to Cheri Bustos is vandalism, and I am reporting it as such. I am just letting you know this for documentation purposes. I am creating a ticket on this matter and have reverted your vandalistic edits to my properly cited additions that are 100% valid and pertinent.

As for the Durbin puffery, the whole section stems one primary candidate's losing's candidates comments. That is anti-puffery, so I'm just balancing the intended bias of the original comment w/ a counter statement showing he does endorse her.

The part about the majority of Catholics is relevant, and is staying,

thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by First down comets (talk • contribs) 20:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * First down, I think you need to familiarize yourself on vandalism policies/guidelines before accusing me of it. Please discuss these matters on the talk page. Instaurare (talk) 20:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll discuss it on the talk page. I can tell you'd be willing to nail me for any transgression. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by First down comets (talk • contribs) 20:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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From the Editor Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

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Church of the month The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.

Good articles and DYKs The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on... THE HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

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