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A brownie for you!

 * Thanks for the brownie! I try to be civil here on Wikipedia. If I'm not sure about something, I ask for help whenever I need it. That's what editors are here for. Interstellarity (talk) 00:52, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You'd be surprised how few editors do what you do. You're making the 'Pedia a better place. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 01:01, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
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 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
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 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

Administrators' newsletter – November 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg GermanJoe • Girth Summit • Kees08 • Nosebagbear
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg DESiegel • GB fan • MSGJ • Voice of Clam • WilyD
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad • Fang Aili • Pakaran

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad • Pakaran

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg MSGJ

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg L235 • Mz7 • SQL • ST47
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ivanvector
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg L235 • Mz7 • ST47 • Stwalkerster • The Blade of the Northern Lights • Xaosflux
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DeltaQuad • DGG • Julia W

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.
 * The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).
 * A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 10
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Hello everyone and welcome to the 10th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

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Thank you. The Great Pancracio (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I have moved your article to draftspace so the article can be worked on before it's ready for mainspace. When you're done, submit it for review. Interstellarity (talk) 02:18, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Handball at the 2019 South Asian Games
Hello Interstellarity,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Kingsif and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged an article that you started, Handball at the 2019 South Asian Games for deletion, because it is unnecessary and disambiguates only a single page.

If you feel that the page shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion] but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top. If the page is already deleted by the time you come across this message and you wish to retrieve the deleted material, please contact the.

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Kingsif (talk) 15:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I trust your judgement. Interstellarity (talk) 15:35, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Heads up
You might care to review your position here Victuallers (talk) 18:07, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I made a statement on the nomination page that I withdraw the nomination. Interstellarity (talk) 18:11, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Please don't nominate AfDs from NPP
Your last couple AfD nominations were done with Twinkle, of articles minutes to hours old, including a playwright who is listed in four other independent tertiary sources. Please don't nominate brand new articles unless you do a thorough search of notability and can be confident of the results. It's extremely WP:BITEy and almost never allows reflecting on the authentic notability criteria. In a perfect world everyone would do userspace drafts and there is plenty of borderline spam in NPP, but nominating brand new articles results in the kind of repetitional damage to Wikipedia advocates in other forums which can undo months of difficult editor recruiting work.

Thank you for your effort, though; there is no question your heart is in the right place. EllenCT (talk) 18:12, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

-- oops, I just saw you withdrew the nomination while I was writing that. THANK YOU! EllenCT (talk) 18:14, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't like biting the newcomers. I just want what's best for Wikipedia. Interstellarity (talk) 18:16, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

frustrated
im getting frustrated no one has adopted me yet. and i want to edit articles but i have no idea what am doing.. DarknessHorses1989 (talk) 19:11, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , You will need to ask one of the adopters on their talk page. I will ping since he is one of the adopters. You need to be patient to get a response. His talk page is located at User talk:Nick Moyes. Interstellarity (talk) 19:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Merab Dvalishvili (November 13)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CASSIOPEIA was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Merab Dvalishvili, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "db-self" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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 CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:05, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

My user page
At the first my user page didn't have any problems, but The Blade of Northern Lights deleted my writings and blocked me to see my previous editions. I asked him to change back my page, but he didn't agree my request. I want to ask you about changing back my page. یاسین بهجتیان اصفهانی (talk) 14:09, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , You could ask for the page to be restored at WP:REFUND, but I don't think your request would be granted. Your page was deleted because you attacked a user. This is not allowed. Please read our policy on personal attacks. If you repeatedly attack others, you may be blocked from editing. Interstellarity (talk) 14:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks.یاسین بهجتیان اصفهانی (talk) 14:19, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Huggle
When I warn users using Huggle while patrolling vandalism, it only works with Level 1 warnings. I would like it to work with higher level warnings such as level 2, 3, and 4. Can you figure out why this is happening. I checked other user's contributions, they seem to have it working. I also asked this at Huggle/Feedback but I waited more than 24 hours, I got no response. Can you help me? Interstellarity (talk) 18:14, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , sorry, I don't use Huggle as I haven't requested rollback privileges, but I would just say 24 hours is a tad soon. Try and be patient and leave this help me tag up. You did the right thing asking for help. In the interim, just issue level 1 warnings. If you want to modify it to a level two or higher, you can manually go to their talk page, delete the substituted template, and add the applicable warning using Twinkle. Doug Mehus T · C  18:27, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , In the meantime, I will patrol recent changes with Twinkle and hold off on using Huggle for a bit until the issue is resolved. Interstellarity (talk) 18:30, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Sounds good. If you don't hear back by tomorrow, you could try the Live Help on IRC. Just make sure, if you do, replace this "Help me" tag with "Help-me-helped". Doug Mehus T · C  18:39, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The help chat is not for this type of question, it's for assistance editing. Huggle and this question are specific technical questions. Praxidicae (talk) 20:17, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * This is likely intended behavior. Warnings older than three days are ignored when determining the warning level of a user. If this answers your question, please link to my answer on any other page the same question has been asked. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:38, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Ah, interesting. That makes sense then. :) Doug Mehus T · C  18:40, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's correct. I notice it happens after a user was just warned with a Level 1 warning. Interstellarity (talk) 18:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a specialized tech question, please just wait for an answer there. Praxidicae (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Providing a link to an example (or several) would also help. Huon (talk) 18:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Example provided and question answered – I hope ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:12, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

userboxen?
This is really not a big deal, but I looked at your page and one of your userboxes says that you've been on Wikipedia for 8 years, but the text under your username says that you have been in for 9 years. Does it need to be updated? Again, it's no big deal, just something I noticed. 😊 Puddleglum2.0   Have a talk?  02:18, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , It seems like you are on mobile. It could be because I'm close to being on Wikipedia for 9 years. Interstellarity (talk) 12:50, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Narayan Rao Tarale
Hi, why you put a7 tag on this article? He was an MLA. According to wP:NPOL, MLAs are notable.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 19:10, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , A7 means it does not claim a credible claim of significance. You are welcome to create your article through WP:AFC and work on it through there. Once you're done working on the article, submit it for review and reviewer will either accept or decline your submission. If it is accepted, your article will be moved to the encyclopedia. Otherwise, it will be declined and the reviewer will indicate why he or she declines it. Does this help? Interstellarity (talk) 19:13, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It is deleted. But, according to wP:NPOL MLAs are notable. I have put this issue on Administrators' noticeboard. Proper references were given on that article. So, why does it fall under a7? He was an MLA. I think your a7 tag using in that article was inappropriate.--S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 19:17, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I have replied at WP:AN. Interstellarity (talk) 19:20, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 11
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Homs school bombing
I'm sure you saw this, and thought, oh no, not another bombing article. I wonder if we move this to WP:AfD because its deletion might be controversial, or at least bring out the Think of the children people over Thanksgiving weekend. What do you think? Bearian (talk) 23:57, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , It's up to you. I usually AfD an article if I'm choosing between AfD and PROD, but I thought deletion would not be controversial in this case. Interstellarity (talk) 00:37, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * How could anyone think that a elementary school suicide bombing with a death toll of over 50 were run-of-the-mill - common, everyday & ordinary?! Even in the Middle East, it's far from being run-of-the-mill. What indications could there be it was so trivial/ordinary/insignificant an event that deletion of it would be uncontroversial? The death toll is higher than that of the 2016 Brussels bombing and close to that of 7/7. Like those bombings in Europe, it very easily meets the notability criteria. Jim Michael (talk) 04:19, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I've been known to BOLDLY redirect such articles (don't know as doing that is anything other than IAR). So perhaps a selective merge to some article on the Syrian conflict and redirect would be appropriate. Along with appropriate counseling for the creator of course. I'd just go for it, but I do my best to ignore such events so far from home. Wouldn't know where to put it. If this weren't a part of a war, I'd say the death toll alone would make it notable. But, alas, we do not record every action of a war. Is there an "atrocity" article connected to this conflict? John from Idegon (talk) 01:24, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't quite understand what you are saying. Interstellarity (talk) 01:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok. Never mind. It's late. John from Idegon (talk) 01:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

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