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ARCHIVE PAGE 23: November 2009

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Paua slug
Hello, I have expanded Paua slug. Although it is fascinating animal, the article is not easily readable and I have no idea how it could be improved to be a good enough for a "Did you know...". Feel free to improve it and nominate it if you like. I will try to expand another article from the same family in the future probably. --Snek01 (talk) 10:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

What about terminology pharynx / oesophagus in gastropods? I think, I should unify terminology to the oesophagus only. I understand the digestive system according Barker 2001 (The biology of terrestrial molluscs) like this:

Buccal mass (mouth, oral tube, buccal cavity with jaw and with radula) → oesophagus → oesophagal crop → stomach or gastric pouch.

There should lead salivary glands to the buccal mass according to the Barker. But in this exceptional animal it leads into the pharynx, so I am not with proper terminology. Maybe Barker omitted some exceptions(?). --Snek01 (talk) 11:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I did some clean up on it already, but I will take a second look at the article soon. As for the terminology question, unfortunately I don't know enough about the anatomy of snails to comment on that. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 20:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)



I think I have found it! The correct description should be like this (see number six in the image). The whole 1 and 2 is buccal mass, so this expanded part of buccal mass can also be called pharynx. I have to verify it for more similar predatory species, but it is probably like this, because everything seems all right and compatible now. --Snek01 (talk) 20:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Good. I do remember that some carnivorous predatory gastropods, such as Navanax, well, they actually evert the pharynx during feeding, and then they retract it again. Since this species has retractor muscles for the pharynx, I imagine that it does the same thing... Invertzoo (talk) 21:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Expanded and nominated Template talk:Did you know. --Snek01 (talk) 00:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

those silvertip nudibranchs
Hi Invertzoo, I have just copied the reply I wrote on my talk page in case you didn't get it... still not sure how one goes about replying to people!

Thanks Invertzoo, I will change the sp. 1 etc to show which author -- it's a bit of a tricky one because there they are as sp.1 in a reference book and the taxonomic guys are still not getting their acts together to describe the animals, but my thinking was, the animals exist, we're pretty certain they are new species, we're waiting for the descriptions to be published, so rather put them into the Wiki than leave them out. As for the silvertips -- very unfortunately the pictures I have of the two species with their egg ribbons were not taken by me, so I can't use them.... but I will change the captions, very good point.

Best wishes to you Seascapeza (talk) 06:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Once again, thanks! You've been such a fantastic help to me with getting me into being a more competent Wikipedia editor/contributor. best wishes Seascapeza (talk) 09:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Unlawful
Gastropods are so unlawful! They even infrige Dollo's law!!! Some day there will appear such unlawful gastropod on the Main page. ;) --Snek01 (talk) 16:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi there Susan! Thanks for your feedback. I'm currently redirecting all my effort to the GA nominations, since both Byne's disease and Eustrombus gigas are being reviewed. As soon as it ends, I'll once again do the assessment stuff. Best wishes! --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 23:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay!!! I just saw that Byne's disease actually passed GA!! That really made my day!--Daniel Cavallari (talk) 23:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Problem of classification
Hi again Invertzoo, I'm heading into tricky territory now: working on the genus Cratena and it seems there's a problem:- the genus comes up in a Wiki search as either belonging to the subfamily Crateninae in Facelinidae or else to the family Glaucidae. Both the subfamily and the family have validity under the online B&R taxonomy which is available to me, but I do not have access to the complete taxonomy in order to decide which group Cratena actually falls under because it (presumably) can't be both. Because the Wiki entry on Facelinidae references B&R, I have left my detailed taxonomy of Cratena capensis (which we call the orange-eyed nudibranch) as belonging to Crateninae, but I would much prefer it if Cratena had a unique home and didn't straddle two different families. Any thoughts?

Best wishes Seascapeza (talk) 07:31, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, I have solved this and I have kept Cratena only in Facelininidae/Crateninae as its type genus. --Snek01 (talk) 10:35, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Biomphalaria
Hello, feel free to expand Biomphalaria glabrata if you like. It needs ~ 2x expansion for DYK hook. Another one Biomphalaria tenagophila is quite good for a DYK hook already. --Snek01 (talk) 11:20, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello, could you check the grammar in the hook. please? --Snek01 (talk) 11:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Biomphalaria glabrata.jpg...that Biomphalaria freshwater snails like Biomphalaria glabrata (pictured) and Biomphalaria tenagophila are vectors for disease-causing parasites that affect 83 million people?

Short: ... for parasite affecting ...

Explanatory: ... for disease causing parasite affecting ...

Not much exact? ... for disease affecting ...

--Snek01 (talk) 12:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Simplified alternative? --Snek01 (talk) 13:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * are vectors for disease-causing parasites that affect 83 million people?
 * are transferring the parasite, that cause disease in 83 million people?

Should there be singular "parasite"? The S. mansoni is the one species. --Snek01 (talk) 13:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Names

 * Incorrect: Diastole (genus)
 * Correct: Diastole (gastropod)
 * Explanation: Homonyms are with suffix (gastropod), so other names are compatible with homonyms. --Snek01 (talk) 01:23, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Simplified: WikiProject_Gastropods. --Snek01 (talk) 19:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Heterodorididae
You wrote the article about this family. However, Bouchet & Rocroi consider it as a synonym of Arminidae. The Seaslug forum holds the same opinion. Originally it was placed together with Arminidae in Euarminoidea, but this name was unavailable. Can you look into it ? JoJan (talk) 19:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

about nuisance edits
Thanks again!

Best wishes Seascapeza (talk) 13:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Yep. In fact, the nuisance edit I was referring to in the first place was that IP address that A Stop at Willoughby was correcting -- and from the type of editing, I'd be pretty sure it was the same person.

Interestingly, one of my friends is very involved with Wikitravel and their policy there is to simply hard revert nuisance edits with no comments, the idea being the nuisance editor at least partly, wants to make people cross and wants the attention; give them none and they'll get bored sooner. It's an idea. I still find it bizarre that one would do such a thing in the first place though!

best regards Seascapeza (talk) 02:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the information! I must say, deciding to start being a Wiki editor has been a fascinating process -- in several respects. First there's the thrill of being able to make a contribution to a really worthwhile repository of global knowledge; then there has been (and still is) learning how to format and write in ways that conform to Wikipedia standards, and then there has been the fascinating process of seeing how different people interect with the Wikipedia -- the contributors, the vandals and the fixers -- and no doubt there are likely to be subsets and new groups of all the above. Anyway, thanks again, and best wishes to you

Seascapeza (talk) 04:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Copy of info note

 * Hi. :) Yes, you do need a written agreement. Requesting copyright permission contains the basic process. Once you get his license (I really recommend asking him specifically to use Declaration of consent for all enquiries—it makes processing so much easier, though if he is unfamiliar with copyleft licenses you may need to fill it out for him yourself and ask him to paste it back into an e-mail), you can forward it to [mailto:permissions-commons@wikimedia.org permissions-commons@wikimedia.org]. (I'm presuming you will place this image on Commons, since you have permission for it.) Alternatively, you can ask him to mail it directly. Once you have the written consent (or he is ready to send it himself), you should upload the image. It's very helpful to the OTRS responder to have the url to that image int he e-mail of permission. :) Add OTRS pending to the image upload page to guard against premature deletion. Permission should process within about a week. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 03:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

George Washington Tryon
This biography is a selected biography on our Portal:Gastropods. I've added some information but would be happy if you could look it over and smoothen somewhat my use of your language. Thanks. JoJan (talk) 19:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)