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ARCHIVE PAGE 28: April 2010

Speak tomorrow?
I will be out of the office much of today. Are you available to talk tomorrow? I don't have your e-mail address...mind sending it? Have a good day. Enviromet (talk) 12:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Scaphella junonia
Hello! I actually am still alive. I was told by the shopkeeper that the shell I photographed was dredged up by a shrimp boat off the southwest coast of Florida. I hope that is helpful. Cheers! Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Loricifera
Hello, feel free to tweak my style of the "hook" sentence of new discoveries of Loricifera in In the news/Candidates, so they could appear on the Main page "In the news". Thank you. --Snek01 (talk) 22:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The link should be http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=12 for now. --Snek01 (talk) 22:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Award

 * Congratulations! (I am also always thinking about gastropods, but to export of this CITES species to central Europe is uneasy). --Snek01 (talk) 19:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Task, that can solve only "Strombus Thinker" awardee: User_talk:Snek01. --Snek01 (talk) 19:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Patellogastropoda
Hi Susan, I need your input here. Thanks. Ganeshk ( talk ) 02:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Lead/Lede
Thanks Susan. Will take a look. I'm going to take a fresh look at the lead and make the necessary revisions. Much appreciated...again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enviromet (talk • contribs) 15:34, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar and Genera stubs
Hi Susan,

Thank you for the barnstar! It's much appreciated. I am glad to be of help. I have seen these gastropod shells growing up and had never given much thought about the animal behind it. It's great to learn more about these animals now.

It would be great if the species articles had some kind of meta code behind them that would allow someone to extract the information from Wikipedia (using some SQL language). It would be similar to we extracting information from WoRMS. Has this been discussed before?

I am currently working on the genera stubs. That's needing some additional programming to get the species listed. I am sure we will have some genus stubs done before you get back. Have a good trip!

Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 01:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Please check User_talk:Snek01. Thanks. Ganeshk  ( talk ) 03:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


 * The genera stubs are ready earlier than expected. :) -- Ganeshk  ( talk ) 01:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Lede touch-up
Thanks for helping with the lede. I revised a possible inaccuracy and made a few minor edits...and think it reads great now. Would like to add "alloys" to the title of the article...but couldn't figure how to do this...only know how to change body text. Once the title is amended, the article is good and accurate and ready for all to read/enjoy and comment/enhance as in all Wiki articles. Can't tell you how much your help has been appreciated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enviromet (talk • contribs) 03:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Revised article name
Revised name of article...that was easy. Added a first section on properties to bring more understanding to article. All is done now. Will work on future articles. Thanks a million for bringing me up to speed to some decent level of Wiki competency. Imagine, I couldn't do a bold face a few weeks ago. Have a GREAT GREAT trip!! Enviromet (talk) 16:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Vacation
Happy vacation! --Snek01 (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's give it another try
Susan, I did some major editing in the Eustrombus gigas article, and renominated it for GA evaluation. I know you're on vacation, but I felt I should tell you this, just in case! Best wishes --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 15:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Boronia imlayensis
Dear Zoo,

Thanks for your kind remarks. Have a good time away, and enjoy your holiday.

In November 2009 I was crazy enough to climb Mount Imlay. And photograph Boronia imlayensis.

It's a rare plant in the citrus family. It only grows on the ridge top of Mount Imlay in an area about 500 metres long and 50 metres wide.

Is this plant "rare", "vulnerable" or "endangered"?

I tried to contact the Botanic Gardens here. But I spoke to a human voice, and was put onto a taped message, then the phone dropped out. Me saying "hello, hello?" But there was no-one listening.

So, two days ago I decided to talk to real people in person. But this was similar to the experience on the phone. The person at reception didn't care, didn't take much notice.

However, after more persuasion I was allowed to walk through the security doors. But there was no-one around. I waited for a quarter of an hour for someone to arrive, but nothing happened. I was sick of this, and went back to the receptionist, but the door was locked, so I pressed a security button. She said nothing of importance, and then I returned back to the inside of the Royal Botanic Gardens. (The receptionist forgot to press the button), and I had to tell her to open it.

When inside again I found a couple of people. Got sick of being polite, tried to find an answer. One botanist was preposterous, saying all sorts of nonsense about rare and endangered plants. He tried to be an over-confident bombast. As if to humiliate and ridicule my query. If my query was that simple, I wouldn't be here!

This man was an idiot. So I tried someone else. A woman who seemed more intelligent. She looked up my query and understood what I had to say. This girl was good, she was smart and came up with a reasonable reply. I thanked her for her kindness and intelligence.

She said to contact a certain government official regarding the official status of Boronia imlayensis.

I tried to contact this Judy Scott by phone, but that didn't work. But I found her e-mail address. And after several days there is no reply from her.

Dealing with government officials is not always easy. Sometimes you meet up with an expert who is full of knowledge and generosity. Other times you meet up with dreary dull ordinary second rate persons who are worth next to nothing.

Not that I can be too proud. As I am often rude, and judgemental. And I'm ashamed of some of my hostile words. I'm terrible to other Wikipedians. (Feel awful about the rude things I say).

So, to answer the question. What is the status of Boronia imlayensis. Is it rare, vulnerable, endangered or critically endangered"? My answer is I DO NOT KNOW.

So, sorry for not giving a better answer. But I hope to try harder and get the answer.

All this talk, makes me want to climb the great mountain again.

Peter Woodard xxx Poyt448 (talk) 10:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Gastropods/Things that need doing
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Mollusca
Nice work on the prose of Mollusca; at least a few of the taxa-focused editors have grave problems in phrasing things for the general audience. Studerby (talk) 17:44, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * May I make a comment, please? Or rather, a question... Why isn't Mollusca included in project gastropods? I know the article is not mainly focused on Gastropoda, but it more than mentions the group (obviously). Is there any specific reason? --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 21:48, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * (butting in: I found this looking through Cavallari's contribs) Gastropods are only one part of the Mollusca, and there is WikiProject Animals. The tree of life subprojects don't usually tag pages on higher taxa like that. &mdash;innotata 23:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I see! Thank you for the explanation, I believe I understand it now.--Daniel Cavallari (talk) 23:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, well I may have just made a mistake then. I went ahead and tagged it with our Project template. Please anyone feel free to remove the tag if it is thought to be inappropriate. Invertzoo (talk) 23:52, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Gastropods in the Signpost
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Gastropods for a Signpost article to be published in early May. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 03:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

snail found today - message copied to you, originally sent to Snek
Hi Snek,

Today I found a snail in a rainforest in Australia. The shell was about 4 cm wide. I promised to Invertzoo to find a big rainforest snail in the rainforests of Australia.

My friend and I waited 30 minutes for the snail to come out of its shell. But it didn't come out of the shell. Then it fell over, and ended up in under the water of Camp Gully Creek. So I put the snail back where I originally found it.

My interest is the rainforests of south eastern Australia. But I like all living things, such as birds, insects and molluscs. The best thing of today was finding this large snail.

I am not sure what type of snail it is. But I feel very happy to see a large rainforest snail in Australia.

Poyt448 (talk) 07:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Harpa
There is unclear (for me) situation with Harpa ventricosa, Harpa davidis, Harpa cabriti maybe Harpa major and its images. I could organize its articles, but not determine its images. --Snek01 (talk) 11:22, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

For example File:Hventricosawithshell.png is used in Harpa major article, but the image descrition is Harpa ventricosa, but the Harpa ventricosa redirect to Harpa cabriti although Harpa ventricosa should redirect to Harpa davidis. This means, feel free to chekc all images of Harpa, add proper image descrition to the on Commons and feel free to organize articles also. This means make complete revision of articles and image of the whole genus. --Snek01 (talk) 18:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

About Fata Morgana (mirage)
Hi Mila, I noticed a while ago that an image was missing from the article. I am not sure if you took it out? Should I change the text so that it no longer refers to the image, or do you want to put the image back? Here is the relevant section:

"...even the sea surface itself can create a Fata Morgana mirage under certain conditions, (see the image on the right). The small boat in this image appears as if it could go right through the apparent "wall" behind the boat. But in reality the sailors on this boat do not see the same "wall". This wall does not really exist; it is just a mirage that is seen by an observer located on shore. The sailors on the boat might or might not have seen something similar on their horizon, depending on the exact conditions. If the sailors did see a "wall" and tried to reach it, they would have been disappointed, because, like the end of the rainbow, Fata Morgana can never be reached."

Best, Invertzoo (talk) 10:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Susan, thank you very much for noticing it. I took the image off few months ago, when the article was still in my user's space because my article about that particular Fata Morgana together with my image of it were published in a magazine (actually the image was published on the cover) in England, and I was not sure, if I still have copyrights for my image. That particular Fata Morgana was very unique, and I would like the image and the description of it to remain in the article, but let me ask them first please. I will email them today, but usually it takes few days to hear back from them. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:11, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I added the image. Best wishes,--Mbz1 (talk) 23:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

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Professor
Hi there Susan! How are you? I hope you are enjoying your vacation! I had a chat with Professor Simone recently. I've shown him Project Gastropods, and he seemed very excited about it! He told me he is willing to contribute by providing detailed anatomy and morphological data AND pictures of at least 500 mollusks (not only gastropods). However, for a very busy person like him, available time is a serious issue. We'll have to further discuss that matter. Any suggestions are welcome, though. Best wishes! Daniel Cavallari (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Trimusculus carinatus
Hi there Susan! Now there is a species I've never heard of! I don't even know the genus, to be honest! Pulmonate gastropods are really not my specialty, though I have learned much recently. So how does it look like? Does it have a beautiful shell? --Daniel Cavallari (talk) 23:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)