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Shell view types
Hi Susan, I have been adding images to articles using the FIST tool. For example, Diodora inaequalis. How do I define the three views in the thumbnail caption? — Ganeshk  ( talk ) 17:28, 3 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I would call the views dorsal, ventral and lateral in the sequence you currently have them. Views of limpets like this one tend to be labeled a bit differently from views of coiled snail shells. Invertzoo (talk) 17:31, 3 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I have updated the thumbnail captions now. — Ganeshk  ( talk ) 17:35, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

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The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven
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Thanks again! Ocaasi 02:25, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Happy Valentines Day!
Hello there Invertzoo,

I would just like to let you know that I am wishing you a Happy Valentines Day! I know its a few days early, but I'm sure it wouldn't necessarily matter what time I give you this message. Also, what you are reading right now is actually my 2000th edit on Wikipedia, a large milestone for me, I have decided to make my 2000th edit dedicated to you especially, with this kind edit. I hope you have a fantastic Valentines Day, happy editing! The whimsical enigmatic Solo Toady! 10:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)  A red rose for a fabulous user.

Love, Solo Toady

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Some baklava for you!

 * Thank you Pankajsanchet, both for the baklava and for the compliments. I was glad to be able to try to help WIkipedia in this way. My working area is my little shell cave, you are right. But I live in NYC, where most apartments are very small, so what you saw is about all the space we have here! Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 23:28, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Also saw your interview via the foundation's email marketing. Great job, Invertzoo! P.S. If you have any leftover baklava.... Fletcher (talk) 03:00, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Liked your talk about lead paragraphs at the Wikipedia Meetup
Totally agree with what you said.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

There wasn't time then, but I wanted to add something that I came across years back that might amplify your thesis, and help you help others write better lead paragraphs. And it is the definition of a definition from Socrates. It's a way of moving a reader from the known to the unknown, logically, like telling someone what a new word means, and this can be applied to encyclopedia articles too. It's this:--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * ___________ is a __________ that ____________.

The first blank is the name, hopefully unique and easy to pronounce. The second blank is the category: something understood, known, familiar, that the subject belongs to. The third blank is the point of difference -- in what way the subject differs from others subjects in the category.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Example: Crest (name) is a toothpaste (category) that prevents cavities (point of difference). So a user, unfamiliar with Crest toothpaste, will know first that "Crest" is a toothpaste, but then will know how it differs from other toothpastes. Obviously, marketers use this formula in advertising.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Or, an example from mollusks:--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

A Socorro springsnail (name) is a snail (category) that is an tiny endangered species with a gill (point of difference).--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

This formula, or variations of it, I have found to be a generally good way of introducing a reader of an unfamiliar topic to a state of somewhat greater enlightenment.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Tom! It was nice to meet you, albeit briefly, on Saturday at the NYC meet-up. Thanks for your very helpful suggestions. I would like to see something more or less like that applied throughout the encyclopedia because it would be a shame if Wikipedia started to become too opaque or too hard to understand, you know, if it started to exclude people from the learning process. All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 16:20, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Meetup Follow Up
Dear Susan

Thank you again for all your advice and help introducing me to the world of Wiki at yesterday's event.

Your heads up regarding potential COI issue with respect to the pending Metropolis Video submission is also appreciated. I will make a point to note that I was a member of the group on the talk page once the entry has been uploaded and the page is created. Again - thanks  MichaelDOwen (talk) 21:50, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Kitchen Press Release
Thanks for looking into the permissions requirement for posting the press release.

I've learned that the document was from The Kitchen's archive and recently sent to a member of Metropolis Video who requested it.

I doubt it's accessible on line. However, I'm in the process of getting the name of the contact at The Kitchen and will ask for permission to use the press release in the article. My question then is what form should this permission take and how would I demonstrate it in the process of uploading an image to the Wiki Commons?

Again, thanks again for your help with this.

MichaelDOwen (talk) 14:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I am still researching the whole process, so I can't tell you yet how to do this. If the press release is protected by copyright then there is a process whereby permission may be granted, but it is neither very simple nor very fast. If the press release is not protected by copyright it is a different story of course. But U.S. copyright law is not a simple thing. Invertzoo (talk) 14:32, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Also I wanted to add that the image of the press release would go into Wikimedia Commons, where it could be used by anyone at all for any purpose at all, even for commercial purposes (hypothetically at any rate), not just to illustrate the Metropolitan Video article. Invertzoo (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)


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Zoogenetes
hello Invertzoo! hope you're doing ok. just giving you a heads-up about the new article. cheers, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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Copied from WP:MCQ note on "New image of an old press release"
This correspondence is copied from the WP:MCQ page:

What is the copyright status of a new photograph of an old (1977) press release? A new editor wants to upload his 2013 photograph of a paper press release from The Kitchen, dated October 6th and 8th 1977. The editor has not uploaded the image yet because I told him I want to check to see if there would be a copyright problem or not. I don't even know if a paper press release (which was sent out to journalists) is a "publication" or not. Invertzoo (talk) 12:59, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's a publication, and fully subject to copyright; taking a photo of it would not enable us to circumvent the copyright involved. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Unless the press release had a copyright notice, which is highly unlikely since that would defeat its purpose, it should be PD, template "pd-pre1978." Press releases were intended to be published freely.--Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Good point, watcher! -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  19:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much Wikiwatcher and Orangemike! So it is indeed in the Public Domain, and should be templated as "pd-pre1978" when it is uploaded. Great! Thanks again! Invertzoo (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)