User talk:Ioeth/Archive 1

Moving pages
Hi! It looks like you're trying to move one or more pages. However, please stop doing that this way - the new name of the page might be good, but Wikipedia has another procedure for moving pages. Look at Help:Renaming (moving) a page: you need to use the move tab, and not cut and paste. Cut and paste moves don't take the edit history with them and thus violate the GDFL copyright terms. Also, in some cases, when the move might be controversial, you might first want to discuss the move on the article's talk page. If a move is not possible because a page with the new name already exists, go to Requested moves. Thanks! &mdash;tregoweth (talk) 04:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

CBR1000RR tagged, but no discussion
I agree with this tag, but as per instructions on the template, a discussion should be created with reasoning as to why neutrality and factual accuracy is disputed. I have removed the template for now until a discussion could be provided. Roguegeek (talk) 16:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:FU violation
You said: "The only edit I made to the Jennifer Morrison article was to link it to a picture of her as Dr. Allison Cameron, her character from House, with a short caption explaining as such. In fact, I linked to the same picture that is used in the Allison Cameron article.  Could you please explain how this would have been interpreted as vandalism as well as provide a good reason why the picture should not be used?  Thanks."


 * This violates WP:FU. We are only permitted to use freely-licensed, not promotional, images to depict living people.  In your edit, you explicitly removed the warning not to do exactly what you did.  Additionally, the image itself is missing the mandatory detailed fair-use rationale which you'd have had to add if Wikipedia allowed the use of this sort of image (which, of course, it does not).  Given that you removed a warning telling you not to add a promotional image and then went ahead and added a promotional image, it seemed reasonable to leave you the warning.  --Yamla 18:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Although I don't think I would call call the silhouette with "No free image" a very specific warning against using promotional images, I do apologize for not having read the Fair Use section of the image carefully enough. So that you are aware, the articles Omar Epps, Lisa Edelstein, and Jesse Spencer all use similarly copyrighted promotional photographs for House, originally released with and under the same license as the photo of Jennifer Morrison, which was not fair use. It seems that these photographs should be removed from their respective pages as well.

At this time, I would like to protest your decision to issue a very nonspecific warning which amounted to little more than a threat to ban my user account in response to my edit. People meaning well do occasionally make mistakes, you know, and it certainly doesn't help to encourage education or collaboration to respond so harshly. Perhaps this is asking too much, but I would have felt a lot less like I was being persecuted if you had included your explanation above with the original warning.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify this instance of Fair Use to me; I certainly won't forget the lesson. --Ioeth 19:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not calling that the warning. The warning you removed is evident in this edit.  "Only freely-licensed, not promotional, images may be used to depict living please. Please see WP:FU before adding an image here."  If you can think of a way to make this warning any more clear, please let me know.  --Yamla 20:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll describe my thought process below, which may help you come up with a more effective warning. In this case, I wasn't able to combine 1. what I perceived to be precedent (i.e. the use of similar character images as I mentioned above, all fully documented in their Fair Use sections even though, as I know now, not complying with Fair Use), 2. WP:FU itself, 3. and the warning comment into a proper interpretation of policy. Particularly, I could not find anything as clear cut as "don't use character images" in either WP:FU or the warning comment, as it's disguised in jargon like "8. An image of a living person that merely shows what they look like." (taken from WP:FU under Counterexamples, which in hindsight I think may apply here). Given that nothing so explicit could be found, the vote in my head appeared to be 2 for (WP:FU and perceived precedent) and 1 against (warning comment) making the change.

How could this have been avoided?

In the warning comment, having stating "DON'T USE CHARACTER IMAGES" (or even more specifically referencing House) would have made me realize my err before committing it. Of course this wouldn't work for all living persons cases, as not everyone is an actor or actress. However, I surmise from the structure and placement of the warning, along with other comments I now see on your Talk page, that this is a singular (non-template) warning. It seems that if this is the case, then the addition or substitution of a less verbose (ans more to the point of the problem) warning would at least help to quell some future problems before they started. Additionally, perhaps this particular counterexample (using a promotional image of an actor or actress' character as their Infobox picture) to Fair Use could be added to that section in WP:FU, as it appears to have happened before.

Additionally, I find the Fair Use policy to be less than specific for the reason that actors and actresses are depicted in photographs or screenshots, as in Jesse Spencer's case, in character under their personal bio articles. Although I'm no lawyer, it seems to me that there is very little difference between this and referencing an actor or actress' major role in the main article and then depicting them as such with appropriate captioning in the Infobox. For this reason, the problem seems not to be using a promotional image, but rather the use of a promotional image in an Infobox (i.e. Infoboxes always describe the person, not their roles, no matter what disclaimer is added). This particular issue stems from the relative vagueness on this very specific subject in the WP:FU policy, rather than with the warnings. To rephrase, would it be any different if the offending picture in this case were in the same position with the same caption, but outside of the Infobox?

I'm eager to work with you at coming up with a good solution as ergonomics and specifically human-computer interaction have both been fascinations of mine for quite a while now. Hopefully my previous training in the two areas won't prove to be useless!

Cheers! --Ioeth 21:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning vandals
When you warn a vandal, do not forget to sign your post with the 4 tildes {~) . THanks and good luck! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Mis warned
I think you may have accidentally reverted me and warned me for vandalising. Will (aka Wimt ) 21:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hehe no worries. The more the better! Will (aka Wimt ) 21:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

CSD
Hi,

While new content is wonderful in principle, certain types of content fall under WP's criteria for speedy deletion. In this case, ABAA's article offended CSDs A7 and G11. Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a business directory, articles on organizations must assert encyclopedic notability -- failing to do so is speedy deletable (A7); articles must also not be written in manner that is strikingly promotional (G11). ABAA's article was deleted for both these reasons. New editors are not punished for the mistakes they make in their first drafts, but it is hoped that they will learn the guidelines through practice, and warnings as necessary. In this case, the author ABAA failed to "take the hint", and has seen his content speedy deleted four times now, after which point, protection against recreation is the norm. Best wishes, Xoloz 21:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of songs that have won a Grammy Award for Song of the Year and an Academy Award for Best Song
List of songs that have won a Grammy Award for Song of the Year and an Academy Award for Best Song, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that List of songs that have won a Grammy Award for Song of the Year and an Academy Award for Best Song satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/List of songs that have won a Grammy Award for Song of the Year and an Academy Award for Best Song and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of List of songs that have won a Grammy Award for Song of the Year and an Academy Award for Best Song during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Spellcast 00:41, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Sexism page
You have mentioned on my talk page that you believe I am not being neutral. Please be specific because I am unsure to what you are referring. If I have been non-neutral, I did not do so on purpose. --Justine4all 18:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Btw, I also program in Java. Please to make your acquaintance.--Justine4all 18:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers
Cheers for the welcome, However, I am very familiar with wikipedia, and it's policys, but it's nice to recieve something good for a change, so thank you. Also, please remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~) after your comments. Best Regards, Zanusi 14:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Frank Wolcott and the Lincoln County Regulators
Indeed I did mixed up my regulators. I went looking for a broad article about Regulators and selected incorrectly. bueno JoseFritzJosefritz 15:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Vancouver_municipal_election%2C_2008
A tad quick to judge, I think thought and fact checking or just making use of resources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gzlfb (talk • contribs) 16:43, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Gzlfb
Thanks for the invitation I took it, the little mindless obsessive nit picking has been a major pain. Why not Vancouver_municipal_election,_2008 to this as well? --G-Spot 16:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Why don't the admins do it?
The 2008 Election info is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gzlfb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gzlfb (talk • contribs) 16:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Friendly install
Hey there! I took your suggestion and installed the Friendly package to try out; a couple of quick thoughts on a fast test - the "welcomemenu" option was broken and left me with:

undefined Tony Fox

on the user's page. In fact, when I tried to do welcomemenu manually, it still wouldn't transclude anything - I suspect the template's broken or something. When I tried "welcomeg" on a different page, it did work, but left the word 'undefined' above the template again. I'll play with it more later, but those are some quick thoughts.

And thanks for the comment on my welcoming - it just seemed like the right thing to do there. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 16:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, that worked fine. This is a nice little bit of code - I've been wishing that Twinkle had a 'welcome' button to work with... Tony Fox (arf!) 17:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Winkle club
Appears that this passes speedy. I've placed a hangon tag. Please send to WP:AFD if you disagree. Bearian 20:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, go right ahead and remove the tag on Winkle club. What do you think of Hastings old town? Bearian 20:22, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hastings old town
Take a crack at making a proposal to merge it into Hastings. Non-controversial. Oops, to late. Bearian 20:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Go ahead with merging the Old town week article with Hastings Old Town Carnival as your see fit. You may want to list the merger first at WP:PM, but also see WP:BOLD. Bearian 20:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Macintosh or Windows?
I have been doing research, but I still haven't been able to decide on whether Windows or Macs are the better computer. I have heard many positive things about Mac, like they can't get viruses, definetly a plus, but I have heard there is a lot more softwear for Windows. Can you shed any light on this topic?
 * Armstronggirl 22:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi there, thank you for the welcome message. I have a question though, is the page that my welcome message on my Talk Page? I'm a bit confused about that.

Sceeb2007 15:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Nancy Haigh
I'm new to this. Is my entry for Nancy Haigh OK? I got a note that it was marked for speedy deletion, however it seems that she is certainly a notable Set Decorator in the film industry. Please let me know. thanks. Jimmysmith100 19:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the clarification on the tag. I thought I was missing something.

Best, Jimmysmith100 19:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashley Tesoro EP
Hi there! Actually, it wasn't a problem with twinkle, just that you had in your nom, causing the template to display. To fix that, I just added tags around the, and everything worked out fine. NA SC AR Fan24 (radio me!) 22:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocking threat
Dear Matt,

I'm new to Wikipedia, so you tell me whatthe proper procedure is. I removed claims from Van Sertima that were clearly erroneous from the entry, but I posted a fully documented (much more documented than any other claim in the entry) reason why Van Sertima's claim was not valid. How else is one to correct errors and dubious claims? Do I post my claims on the talk page and ask an editor to act and remove the erroneous claims? Why have an editing capability in Wikipedia if stuff cannot be removed when in error. I did not see in the FAQ on blocking that removing erroneous matter (particularly when fully documented) is a blocking offense.

Itzcoatl

please respond to bitty7337@mypacks.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzcoatl (talk • contribs) 22:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I am still not clear. Can I delete Van Sertima's claims from the main page if I justify that they are wrong in the discussion page or should that justification be in my explanation of the edit. Or is it that I just can't delete material at all?

```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzcoatl (talk • contribs) 15:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

nominated for deletion....
go ahead and delete it. It's ok with me. I'd actually rather you do it becuase I'm just gonna start using my MySpace blog more. Thanks, --Riobravo4 17:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Your friendly script is uncategorized
Hello, I just wanted to point out that your friendly.js page has been included in several cleanup categories. If you wouldn't mind, could you edit the page to include some nowiki tags like this: //       <- top of page //      <- bottom of page This shouldn't affect the code any, as they'll be commented out, but it will remove your page from the cleanup categories since the javascript comments don't affect the wikified version of the page. Thanks! Hers fold  (t/a/c) 03:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I second this request as User:Ioeth/friendlytag.js is appearing in the stubs category. --NeilN 04:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My bad, guys! I've added the   and   tags in comments as you've requested.  Please let me know if I can do anything else!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 13:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Correction to USNORTHCOM verification URL
http://www.northcom.mil/About/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJuatai (talk • contribs) 14:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

USNORTHCOM Edits
Actually, it is not a violation of copyright, as all information published on a U.S. Military web site is public domain unless otherwise marked. In addition, I am the webmaster of NORAD and USNORTHCOM and submitted those changes per orders from my direct supervisor. Our intent here is to ensure an accurate record. Although the brief article you submitted was not inaccurate, it was incomplete. Per my instructions, I am simply tyring to correct the information for the record. JJuatai 14:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

AirshipMan / Spirit of Dubai
I am confused by your warning about adding promotional material - what promotional material did I use? I am just figuring out how to contribute articles, etc. (and clearly not doing a very good job, since half of my images are being deleted). Any images, links, articles referenced, etc., are for informational purposes. Since Airship Management Services owns and operates the largest airships in the world, I believe its not really a matter of promotion but one of historical information. Can you guide me in the right direction? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Airshipman (talk • contribs) 19:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Setu
Please explain your message: User_talk:Mikkalai. I don't see any speedy deletion. May be you had in mind some other page? `'Míkka 21:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. I got it. Took some time, though....`'Míkka 21:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

help needed
I need a clarification on procedure. I have posted on the talk page on pre-columbian contacts fully footnoted and referenced evidence that Van Sertima attributed to Columbus a statement that he did not make by a documented and verifiable accurate quotation. I have further with full footnoting shown that claims that guanin proves African contact are not supportable. I tried deleting van Sertima's claim but it was restored. I then tried inserting footnoted contrary evidence and it was deleted. My question is, if wikipedia is to remain credible there must be a mechanism to determine when conflicting claims occur which one is more credible and supported by evidence and literature citations and then protect the more credible one from repeated deletions.

I have many potential contributions to entriesin Mesoamerica having taught the subjectf or years but I am not willing to spend my time restoring material which has been deleted time and time again. I always footnote my material, which doesnot alwayshappen in wikipedia.

I would appreciate your advice and assistance.Itzcoatl 06:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestionsItzcoatl 17:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Noms for deletion
I appreciate you zeal to remove spam from the encyclopedia, but you might want to rethink your approach. You've nominated one article and 2 images, Image:FUJI - liberty 1.jpg and Image:Big-Ben & Palm2.jpg without giving any valid reason for deletion. Further, your nominations don't make any sense. In Articles for deletion/Airship Management Services, Inc., you don't give any valid reason for deletion, and COI isn't valid. All that is is a reason to tag the article for cleanup. Did you happen to notice that the article is actually sourced with independent references, which is a good thing? For the images, all you say is that the company which owns the rights uploaded the image. So? Didn't you notice that they also used a valid license release the images for us to use? They are doing it right. This is how we want companies to release such images for us to use. I and others have been trying a long time - with little success - to get the likes of Boeing and Northrop Grumman to release images for us to use. So now we have an aircraft manufacturer who is releasing useable images, and releasing them with proper licenses, and all you do is seek to delete them? You punish them for doing it right? Your actions make no sense, and certainly are not helpful to encyclopedia building. You should, instead, have written them a thank you note! I'm going to assume good faith and go with the thought that you were just trying to keep spam from infiltrating, but you might want to go back and withdraw those nominations, otherwise they might be seen as bad-faith noms. Oh, and please, dont WP:BITE the newbies! AKRadecki Speaketh 13:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Apology Accepted
Thank you, Ioeth for The Resilient Barnstar. Apology accepted, and I am sorry for my own Wiki-ignorance! It pretty much my inexperience on Wikipedia that led to all my sourcing problems, and I tried to fix everything quickly so as not to be deleted and I think I messed things up more! Thank you for the speedy keep votes and I will go in and remove the deletion notifications (do I do that just on the Talk page for AirshipMan, or on the Airship Management page as well?) Don't want to make any  more mistakes! Airshipman 16:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)AirshipMan
 * That needs to be done by an admin... and I'm off to take care of it. AKRadecki Speaketh 16:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Please use the sandbox
It appears that your userid was used to edit Ray Kroc in a way that looks like vandalism. The edits have been reversed. Please use the sandbox for experimental editing.--Paul McDonald 20:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Regarding the Ray Kroc article, the vandalistic edits were made by 170.235.202.99. My revert apparently didn't work right and I didn't notice.  Thanks for fixing it, though!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 20:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought it looked kind of weird... you've done lots, it seems! Ah, well... everything fine now!--Paul McDonald 22:28, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

CSD Template Overlap
Sorry about that. Sometimes NPWatcher doesn't want to play nice with people who are faster than it. Thanks for removing my duplicate. --  dhp 1080  (u&middot;t&middot;c)  21:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem! At first I thought Twinkle had messed something up, but it was you after all!  Only kidding...keep up the good work!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Cafe vs. coffee house
I was in the process of creating a new article, since the coffee house article rather ignores the most common usage of cafe and coffee shop as an informal restaurant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeamays (talk • contribs) 20:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem, the cafe article is now in place. --Zeamays 20:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Macintosh or Windows?(continued)
With my computer, I want to be able to use it for college, and that means being able to write documents, and make movies on it. but Also the fun stuff, playing games, chatting with friends, and so on. Any helpful information on which one is better for this? Armstronggirl 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Expand76
FYI User talk:Expand76 --Philip Baird Shearer 12:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

USNORTHCOM edits
Edits I made to the USNORTHCOM Page are verifiable here: http://www.northcom.mil/about. This information is the official, released description of U.S. Northern Command. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJuatai (talk • contribs) 15:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Anthony chidiac
The logs for this page don't show that it has been deleted by AfD before ... was it under a different title? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, under Anthony Chidiac. I discovered that that article had been created and deleted so many times (AFD and CSD) that it was protected from creation.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

hiya loeth, thanks for eyeng the article. Correct you are. Its a complete re-write though and I stubbed it to just contain the facts. I dont know how to add it so that it covers "Anthony Chidiac" (caps). Appreciate the help on this one, so we cover both lower and caps. Hope it meets with your approval. Guy is notable, but article before became an absolute train wreck. I have the original article in my userspace for you to compare. Vastly different. Thanks again for your assistance in getting the article vetted. T --T3Smile 17:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It does look notable now, but it is a recreation of deleted material. FisherQueen can take care of it from here.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * **bLING** loeth, where did it go? i heard of speedy, and i put a hangon on it, but what next?  Its gone! please help.  ta. T  —Preceding unsigned comment added by T3Smile (talk • contribs) 17:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A hangon doesn't mean that it won't get deleted. Talk to an admin, like FisherQueen if you want to recreate it.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Pimp Audio
If you're going ahead with an AFD, make you sure you tag it as such... also list it on the daily list of articles nominated for AFD. Cheers, --Madchester 18:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * NM, seems like the anon deleted your AFD tag.. i'll leave a message on his talk page. --Madchester 18:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Elliot gould
Well you know i was only trying to help so thats ok, but there shud be some mention about it as it isnt mentioned anywhere in the artical that i could find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Cuthberton (talk • contribs) 19:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
You have threatened to ban me for removing a speedy deletion from what you claim to be my page. The page is in fact my brothers and i feel that it is being deleted for unjust reasons. It is apparantly of no public intrest but i disagree. To the young people of Nottingham it is of great intrest. I apologise if you take offense by me deleting you speedy deltion request but i cannot understand why it is there... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccollough (talk • contribs) 19:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I only replaced the CSD tag which you removed under two different user accounts, which is a violation of more than one Wikipedia policy. You have contested with a hangon tag, so now it is up to an administrator to decide.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

removal of Balcarres Saskatchewan edit Mandy Meyer
My edit was removed by you. the information is correct and was taken from the musicians webpage. A source was added to the external links section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vic dood (talk • contribs) 18:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It didn't look right before. I've gone ahead and restored it.  Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ )  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, this was my first post and I will remember to sign with the four tildes. As to the info, yes it was a bit surprising to learn that he was born there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vic dood (talk • contribs) 18:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

oops, used it this time. I am now going to study the tutorials for a bit and try to expand the Mandy Meyer page Vic dood 18:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Excellent. Let me know if you need any help!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The sources are listed, and I have fixed uo the entry a bit. Let me know what you think. Vic dood 01:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It looks very good. Well done!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 13:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Tried my hand at another entry - Terry Scales, London artist. Seems to be OK. Is Wiki addictive? Vic dood 17:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Conference Theory
Where I come from its bad manners to not to respond to someone elses good faith efforts to improve things. Stop citing this legal mumbo jumbo, get a job and a life and help us improve this wiki. MagicMons 16:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not "legal mumbo jumbo". Wikipedia's policy is no original research, period.  The article you created, Conference Theory, has no references (a violation of the verifiability policy) and a web search yielded no similar information, hence I have to consider it original research. --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

-I have responded on the talk page. Its hard to take these efforts as good faith attempts when you accuse me of vandalism and treat me with hostility. Also you prefer not to explain what is wrong with my postings. I was a Liberal member of Conservapedia, but was treated with ten times more respect there than here. MagicMons 18:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Ioeth! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. βcommand 05:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

correction
Yes, it is. Thank you much for catching that. --Emesee 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Will Wright DYK
Hi loeth. Significant expansions for DYK refer generally to an entire article (a couple paragraphs long) being doubled or more in size, to the point where it can almost be considered a "new article." The new just-released fact is interesting, but it does not constitute a major expansion of the Wright article. Best regards, Andrew Levine 18:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Dictionary
Actually, if you get your dictionary out, canceled or cancelled are acceptable. I think we were a little hard on User:THE CAKE IS ALIVE than we should have been. I revised my message to him/her and removed yours. WikiDon 18:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * So it is! I had no idea.  Good call on the removals...thanks for letting me know.  :-)  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

why
hi. why are you trying to delete my entry? im not trying to sound mean but just wondering. why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carefulwithwords (talk • contribs) 21:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

well...
im not kelsey. im just a fan. so its not an autobiography. i dont see what the difference of me writing an article on kelsey and somebody writing an articl on say...aly and aj is. why can aly and aj, or jordan pruitt have one, but kelsey can't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carefulwithwords (talk • contribs) 21:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:DTTR
Please don't template the regulars threatening blocks using twinkle, it's not what we do here. I'm referring to your warning to admin Alkivar. Ry<font color="#220066">an<font color="#550044"> P<font color="#770022">os<font color="#aa0000">tl et hw ai te  19:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My bad, was just going too quick and not paying enough attention. I went ahead and removed the template. What was up with that redirect he created anyway? It was Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure why he made the redirect, I've asked him but have had no reply as yet - I'm sure there was a reason. Thanks for removing it. <font color="#000088">Ry<font color="#220066">an<font color="#550044"> P<font color="#770022">os<font color="#aa0000">tl et hw ai te  19:11, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Listen here sonny
I know you are trying to make a name for yourself here, but don't dare accuse me of vandalism again. I removed the speedy deletion tag because of what I posted on the talk page, which I'm confident you didn't bother looking at. I am going to remove that tag now - If you talk to me using templates again, I will report you for trolling. MagicMons 13:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Who the hell do you think you are? How dare you accuse me of vandalism. I am once again removing your stupid template and will continue to do so unless you respond to the discussion page, where I have pointed out numerous places where this theory has been backed up with. MagicMons 13:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Please do not talk to me in template form. Not only is it exceedingly rude since I asked you not to but it just displays a lack of social skills. I hope you manage to grasp the irony. Continue to talk to me in template form and I will report you for trolling. MagicMons 13:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I have blanked the voting process due to the addition of Village Magazine, supporting notability. Please consult talk page from now on and DO NOT talk to me in template form for as long as you live ever again. MagicMons 13:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Why are you assuming the worst about me? Do you not read the messages I am leaving you? My edits were far from 'disruptive' MagicMons 13:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC).

I have reported you
I have warned you before, and now I have finally reported you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28assistance%29#Reporting_Harrasment_and_Trolling —Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicMons (talk • contribs) 13:26, 24 October 2007


 * Thanks for letting me know. --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 13:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This isn't personal by the way, I'm sure your a great fella outside Wikipedia - I guess we have wholesale differing internet philosophies! MagicMons 13:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * May I compliment you? You handled this situation graciously, with great civility. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for saying so! I very much appreciate you stepping in on this matter, though.  I think it made all the difference in the world.  It really didn't look like there was anything I could have said or done to calm MagicMons down, heh.  Thanks again!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Kelly Smith
Just a quick question on the Kelly Smith article. You'd placed a speedy (nonsense) tag on the article. I've reverted the article to the most recent non-vandalized version. Does that work for you, or is there something else going on with the article I don't know about? --Fabrictramp 14:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, that's great! I must have spaced when I tagged it, because I thought I saw it was a newly created article.  If I had noticed it was just vandalism I would have just reverted it too.  Sorry for the inconvenience!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 14:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem! I just asked because once in a great while there's more than meets the eye. :) --Fabrictramp 14:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Speedy Deletion request of Beaver River No. 622, Saskatchewan
Please hold off on that deletion. It is being made by someone who is learning how to create and edit an article in Wikipedia, who should not have submitted it until there was a bit more information ready, including that it is a stub article for a Saskatchewan municipality (see *List of rural municipalities in Saskatchewan). Thank you for the attention though, as it will contribute to the educational process. --Delzen 20:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Will do. You may want to put the  template at the top of the page to let people know you're working on it.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 20:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Combining WP:TWINKLE (warn) with WP:FRIENDLY
I've made the following suggestion to User:AzaToth. → AA (talk) — 16:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Lunasblade and Yahoo! Answers
I've blocked this user as you requested at AIV. Do me a favor and go talk with them at their talk page and try to straighten them out. I'm editing here and there from work today, so leave me a talk page note if you need help. Their block expires in three hours.  A  Train ''talk 16:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to leave Lunasblade that message. Gestures like that (though often futile) go a long ways towards make this place better.  A  Train ''talk 20:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

the arya drottingu article
hey, what ever happended to the article? did some1 delete it?if so,y? i mean what was the purpose of deleting it?--Cullen gurl92 14:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

BioMAJ
Hi,

I was not try to add any info to advertise BioMAJ. Those are just the information all the researchers in France need together with the functionality chart of BioMAJ.

This is an open-source software which is used in BioInformatics in Europe. It is not a commercial software, anyway.

Btw, the article was accepted last week but now I don't know why you tagged it again :(

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibm (talk • contribs)  — Wikibm (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 15:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

BioMAJ content has been changed
Hi,

The content of BioMAJ article has been changed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibm (talk • contribs) 15:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Andrew Quah
Why are you deleting the Andrew Quah article? Actorurban888 16:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not deleting it, I simply tagged it for review. --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 16:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you seriously dispute its notability? Can I suggest a Google news search... Actorurban888 16:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it's worthy of review by an admin, that's all. Peruse the biographies of living persons policy if you'd like guidelines and ideas on how to improve the article. What I think of his notability at this point has nothing to do with it. Also, this is in no way meant to be an attack on your value as a Wikipedia contributor. Cheers! --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

GlenIvyHotSprings
My article is not blatant advertising. I am a new user and I am in the middle of editing the page. Please be patient; Wikipedia is not the easiest thing to use. Glen Ivy Hot Springs 19:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you a member of the Glen Ivy Hot Springs marketing department? --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes; I have had many requests by guests, vendors and employees to have a Wikipedia article. I put the "hangon" tag on the page but I deleted the one you put. You can put it back; sorry. Glen Ivy Hot Springs 19:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked for inappropriate promotional username. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

declined speedy
I declined a speedy you put on a page and nominated the page for AFD. You can add your 2 cents here: Articles for deletion/Rosie Michell. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. Cheers!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Dwingeloo 3
Sorry it was a hoax, i only did it to impress my friends, i planned on removing it before anyone else saw it. WIKIKNIGHTX 15:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine. In the future, please don't do anything like that.  You are still welcome to contribute constructively, though.  Cheers!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 15:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

New Article - Kevin Carvell
I don't think new pages like Kevin Carvell without even single source deserve main namespace for many days. If I am wrong, please replace tag. I am new, still learning. TRIRASH 15:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

somehow I suspect he has written his own bio http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=75946736

TRIRASH 15:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Overlap
It seems we are tagging articles in same time interval. You may think that I am overriding your tag. Sometime I get edit conflict message and I back off. But sometime I do not. I use mobile and it slow down my speed and data speed. Please feel free to undo my edit in case of conflict. I will not object at all. TRIRASH 19:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries! I don't mind in the least. :-) --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: TheCapt
That's ok, I find it kinda funny when that happens :) ˉˉanetode╦╩ 19:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Please slow down
I appreciate you're trying to help, but of the last six inappropriate CSD nominations I've declined and de-tagged, five were added by yourself. Removing inappropriate db tags creates unnecessary sysop work and inflates the already bloated Category:Candidates for speedy deletion still further - this is not meant to be rude at all, but could I ask you to refamiliarise yourself with the criteria for speedy deletion, which are only applicable in a few specific cases and not a a more general "I don't think this looks notable" issues.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent  21:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No offense taken, of course. I do see why Barbara Stern Burstin should not have been tagged; my mistake on this one.  Urban Land at the time I tagged it, looked like it was created by a user who was on a mission to plaster links to the article everywhere he could; I should have kept an eye on it after I tagged it.  As for the Victor Hassine article, I truly believe it does not assert notability according to WP:N.  To establish personal notability, independent sources are needed, with the exception of persons with a demonstrable wide name recognition, correct? Simply stating that someone has authored a book does not meet the criteria for inclusion, or am I mistaken? Having notability and asserting it are two different things, and I contended the article did not assert it; can you clarify why this was wrong? As for the other 2 CSD nominations of mine that you declined, I think they were deleted in between the postings of your message and mine. Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my questions. --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Victor hassine's headed for deletion one way or another unless expanded since you're absolutely correct in saying writing a book doesn't automatically warrant inclusion; however, IMO being a published author of what appears to be, although the article doesn't make it clear, a reasonably successful book (on its third edition, published by the legitimate Roxbury Publishing & not a self-published work), is at the very least enough of an assertion of notability to warrant a debate. (There do seem to be some reliable sources for him, too; see for example.)
 * Incidentally, my comments at WP:FRIENDLY weren't aimed at you in particular - I'd completely forgotten you were responsible for it. I do think there's an issue with the work generated by automated stub-tagging which will only get worse if Friendly takes off and the stub tag is included as a general feature.<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — <font color="#E45E05">iride <font color="#C1118C">scent  21:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I see what you're saying about the Victor Hassine article now. I'll take a bit more time to do some investigating before CSD tagging something like that in the future.  As far as WP:Friendly goes, that was a great idea...I hadn't even thought of what having the stub tag in there would do.  My plan is still to eventually have the major (or possibly all) stub types in the tool, so I put the generic one in as kind of a placeholder in the meantime.  It's gone now, though!  I'm going to do some work to see if I can get some stub types in there, though. Thanks for taking the time to reply! --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks
ok thanks for tellin' me.--Cullen gurl92 13:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Socks
Re Suspected sock puppets/Business Publication. As far as I know editing signed in and also anonymously does not count as sockpuppetry. It is something we have all done! Here is my sock! Business Publication is a pain in the arse of course and needs to be put down but all that was needed was a note on their talk page to alert other quality-controllers: "I assume that these edits are yours". (And even if they have all been deleted the message is still useful - admins can see the deleted stuff.) -- RHaworth 23:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Using an anonymous account to circumvent a block is sockpuppetry, though, isn't it? I ask because that's what it seemed this user was trying to do.  Should I report a case like that, or simply leave talk page messages?  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

My apologies, I do see this being used for anons. But you should have added Suspected sock puppets/Business Publication to the log: Suspected sock puppets. -- RHaworth 19:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I was using Twinkle to submit the sockpuppet report, and I think it usually does that for me. I wonder if there's a bug or something that kept it from submitting to WP:SSP this time.  I'll make sure it goes in there in the future.  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've caught another sock of this guy. I never go a bundle on blocking users because if anything it makes it harder to track them since they come back with a different ID. I do believe in blocking titles via the Protected titles mechanism. If you want any blocked, let me know. -- RHaworth 07:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hopefully after getting caught 3 times now this spammer will realize he can't get away with it. I'll keep an eye peeled to see if he starts opening up any of his old articles under different accounts. --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 13:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Atlantis SquarePantis
Hee. Do you think that page is sufficiently tagged? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:05, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Now that's funny! What, did we both tag it at the same time?  I'm planning on adding a feature to Friendly that will check to see what tags have already been added to the page (kind of like what Twinkle does with warnings).  Maybe I'll work on that this afternoon!  --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The Prince's Regeneration Trust
Thanks for your messages about the entry for the above. I should like to state that until this afternoon, there was not an entry for the Trust. In discussion with a staff member from another of The Prince's Charities, she drew my attention to this, and I undertook to add it. I have taken on board what you said, and edited the entry down. I would like to point out that I am no longer consulting for the Trust. Ibrown 16:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

That friendly bug is back
The one where the sig is indented by 1 space - Just thought I'd let you know. Toddst1 18:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Crud! Fixing it now.... Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed, hopefully for good this time. Ctrl+F5! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Funky Monkey Snacks
The page creator has removed your csd tag, but has not substantially modified the article MNewnham 21:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Shakopee New Jersey
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Shakopee New Jersey, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Shakopee New Jersey is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Shakopee New Jersey, please affix the template to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. CSDWarnBot 13:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Julie Lohre
Nov. 5th 11:45am CVG I am having some issues in creating the page for Julie Lohre....

Was previously deleted on 15:53, 22 October 2007 by User:Madman for reasons CSD a7, CSD g12: http://www.julielohre.com/about_mobile.html ---Understood, changed content to be more Wikepedia like and removed some information.

Still qualifies for A7 and G12 ---OK so I'll include information about her appearances in Oxygen, Muscle and Fitness and other publications...including several covers.

Now also qualifies for G4, as it is a recreation of deleted material ---Understood, but then how do you go about creating it, if you didn't get it right the first time....?

Creator is Rick Lohre, husband of article subject, making a clear conflict of interest ---No conflict of interest when I am presenting a non biased account of the individual.

Parts of article are written with a promotional tone and contain spam links violating WP:SPAM ---No spam links are included, only a link to the individuals page which is noteworthy.

Subject may not meet the notabilit guideline ---Meets the notability guidelines and is an international Fitness athlete (as are some of her peers... Adela Garcia, Jenny Lynn, Monica Brant.....) Ricklohre 16:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

New format for Julie Lohre entry....
I recently re-wrote the contribution, following other individuals/peers format to include a non biased entry. Hope this latest revision helps clear things up.

I appreciate your help and guidance.

Thanks, Ricklohre 17:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Julie Lohre....
Appreciate your COI information. I will keep it very neutral. If you still have issues I can potentially pass on the information on to someone else to ask them to finish the editing. However, when researching the other similar entries...I noticed that their management agencies entered their info. If you on the other hand, since you have seen quite a bit of information, want to do it... (Smile) I think most of the questioned material has been either removed or edited down to just the facts. I also added multiple references, but seem to be having a problem making them visible.... Thanks again for your prompt and courteous help. Rick Ricklohre 17:42, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The new Tiffany Vollmer page
Hi, I'm the creator of that new article on Tiffany Vollmer. I must say, I admire your dilligence. No sooner did I have that page up for the first time, than you almost instantly slapped it with a cleanup tag. I'd love to cooperate to get that tag off, but what specifically do you want cleaned up?K9feline 20:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Olympia de la macorra‎
Hello. My argument:


 * Olympia de la macorra‎ looks like a perfectly decent model (image). I agree that the article should be deleted but by putting a tag on the article deeming her unsuitable for an encyclopaedia images and content are POV and unsuitable for an encyclopaedia. Kaeso Dio 20:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Out of the possible options I agree that your option fits the bill. Kaeso Dio 20:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tiffany Vollmer
Thank you for the encouraging personal message you sent regarding my Tiffany Vollmer article. I've tried to make the changes you've suggested. I hope that they meet with your approval and that they get that cleanup tag removed. Thanks again for the kind words! K9feline 21:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Michael Benjamin Younan page
I have finished editing it and it was recommended that I have you check it out before I post it again. Can you look at it for me and let me know if I have it right now?

Thank you!

User:jsdietsch/Michael Benjamin Younan Jsdietsch 23:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Save Tiffany Vollmer!
Just a couple of hours after you commended me on my new Tiffany Vollmer page a user named Valrith slapped a Delete tag on it. :( I've tried my best to argue my case on my discussion page, but could you see if you could do something to help? In a couple of days' time my access to the computer will become limited so I simply won't have the time to get into protracted debate if he gets resisitant about it. K9feline 03:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

NewPagePatrol
I think its the script. Ill try to fix, and if I get it working, ill tell ya. --TheJosh 04:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, its all working now. Also, I use  rather than   - just a touch simpler (faster?) --TheJosh 08:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for finding another bug, your a champ! --TheJosh 22:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

You've won a prize!
Well, no, but I was snooping through your work and I wanted to say what a great job you're doing with the new page patrolling, especially that you go out of your way to be helpful to new editors. Great work! Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for saying so! I've been enjoying it greatly too.  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the save!
Thanks for your help on my first major contribution, the Tiffany Vollmer page. I just wanted to let you know that the page has been categorized. I appreciate all your help more than I can say. =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by K9feline (talk • contribs) 18:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Anytime! Just so you know, you are allowed to remove templates from a page when the template no longer fits.  For instance, when you categories, it's acceptable to remove the uncategorized template.  Also, anyone can object to a PROD by simply removing the PROD from the top of the article, just like removing a template.  If someone still thinks it should be deleted they will submit it for AFD after that.  Best of luck to you! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Jakcs Amerian Brasserie / Jacks American Brasserie
I don't think there was actually a deletion discussion, which is the idea of WP:CSD, but I've deleted it for A7 (and bad spelling.)--Tikiwont 20:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the clarification! I never knew that about G4.  I'll make sure I keep that in mind in the future.  Thanks!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 20:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it is sometimes stretched to things that have been evaluated several times even though not in the formal context of an AfD discussion or the like. In any case, information about reposts is useful and can e.g. be mentioned in a free-form template. And thanks for your help! --Tikiwont 20:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Ioeth
Thank you for the kind welcome, Ioeth!

I think I already accidentally annoyed someone by replacing his photo of a Snowshoe Hare (on the Black-tailed Jackrabbit page) with one of an actual Black-tailed Jackrabbit. heh. I'm kind of new at this, and didn't think I had to ask permission to correct an error.

Oh, well. Here's to happy editing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tianlin (talk • contribs) 19:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Adminship?
Ever given it a thought? I've seen you around the project a lot lately and I think you'd make a great admin. -- Merope 16:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for saying so! The thought has crossed my mind, but judging from many of the comments that I've seen on RFA's, I wouldn't think I would have a very good shot. For instance, a huge percentage of my contributions are marked as minor, since I mostly patrol recent changes and new pages for vandalism. I've seen many reviewers be highly critical of RFA's who's major contribution is of that sort (although I fail to understand why). I've also never made any substantial content contributions, which reviewers seem to also be looking for. Do you think I'd have a chance at passing RFA? Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 16:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I passed. ;)  RFA is a nasty, broken system and I think it's fair to assume that you're going to get anywhere from 2 to 20 oppose votes based on those concerns.  I happen to vehemently disagree with those editors -- being a good article writer is not necessary to being a good admin -- but, unfortunately, I'm not the supreme dictator of Wikipedia.  In addition to being broken, RFA is also an incredibly stressful environment, where every single mistake is scrutinized.  I know that your lack of content contributions is going to have a negative effect, as well as your recent overzealousness on New Page Patrol.  However, I see a dedicated editor who is conscientious and civil, and who would not abuse the tools.  The fact that you started early reverting vandalism and haven't burned out yet is a really good sign, too.  I'd be happy to nominate you, should you feel up to withstanding the slings and arrows of outraged editors.  :)  -- Merope 16:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Supreme Dictator of Wikipedia, eh? I rather like the sound of that...where's the RFSDW page?  You can blame my recent overzealousness on NPP on User:TheJosh.  He had a couple of bugs in his New Page Watcher script that made me incapable of keeping my eyes off of it, hah!  I guess the fact that I've written a (seemingly) useful tool (WP:FRIENDLY) could help my case too.  Speaking of which, you don't have it installed!  Go...install...look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!  As for the RFA, if you're willing to nominate me, I don't see the harm in giving it a shot.  Is there anything I need to do for it?  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 16:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You'll have to accept it once I do, and answer some questions. Then you'll have to answer more questions posed to you by the community, and then you have to watch it for five days while gnashing your teeth and wailing.  Or maybe that was just me.  I'll work on the nom this afternoon and will let you know when it's done.  You should go ahead and start working on your answers to the first three questions.  Good luck!  -- Merope 17:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Will do, and thanks for the support! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 17:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Ready to rock and roll?
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="rfa" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> Merope would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Merope to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. -- Merope 19:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and filled everything out and added the nomination to the WP:RFA page. Thanks again!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Response
Exactly! Please also add schoolIP, too. EoL talk 20:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Friendly- now I can welcome with a button again
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlohcierekim (talk • contribs) 22:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Cheers!
Cheers for that, and good luck with the RfA! <font color="#aaaaaa"> PhilB ~ <font color="#cccccc">T/<font color="#cccccc">C 19:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! Always good to hear from another happy Friendly user.  Keep up the good work! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Richard Littlejohn
I take issue with you accusing me of "adding unreferenced controversial biographical content to articles, as you did at Richard Littlejohn." All I did was to write the plain and simple truth, which is that Littlejohn is a fascist. This is only controversial among himself, as he refuses to admit the truth.I would hate to see Wikipedia become a place for people to place autobiographies.Themanganator 20:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Frankly, adding this information with an edit summary of "minor punctuation alterations" is grounds for reverting the article and issuing you a warning. If you want to add information like that to an article, you have to cite multiple reliable independent sources for verifiability and use an appropriate edit summary. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 20:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Pushplay productions entry
Kind of new here. Thanks for the feedback. Reading guidelines and working to improve the page so it conforms to Wikipedia policy.Wilbydaniels 20:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

St. Stephen's Hull
I have reverted this back to remove all of the additional material on directions etc that have been added this evening and made the entry completely unencyclopedic. The reversion removed the PROD - do you still think that the PROD is required in the reverted state? Keith D 21:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure anymore. The article is much better after the revert, but it's still on the line between valid and spam, to me.  AFD may be more appropriate. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

My own religion
Dude i made that page because i wanted to express my religion to others. call me insane but i wrote what i truly think.Are you saying i cant have freedom of religion on wiki and that wiki is a bunch of oppressive tyrants that won't let their kingdom have what they want? please write me back. 22:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This user appears to have mistaken Wikipedia for the United States government. It's an easy mistake to make, because Jimbo Wales does bear an uncanny resemblance to George W. Bush. Dxism, you don't have any legal right to create articles on someone else's private web page.  Just like my freedom of religion doesn't give me the right to sacrifice goats in your bathtub. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 03:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Feedback on Friendly
Hi Loeth, I thought I'd let you know that I really enjoy using Friendly. Is there any way I can add additional article templates to the palette? Toddst1 18:15, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you like it! If you have a template(s) that you have in mind, you can suggest them on the Friendly project talk page.  The project is very young, so suggestions for additional templates or features are greatly encouraged.  I do have in mind a customization for the tagging feature that would let users specify their own tags, but I haven't gotten a chance to implement it yet.  Thanks for the positive feedback. (btw, the first letter of my username is "i", not "l"...no worries, everybody seems to see an "l") Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * For the record, I bet you 5 fake dollars that someone objects to your RFA based on your username being confusing. -- Merope 19:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That's OK, everyone thinks my name is Todd. I'll check out the talk page. Toddst1 20:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

JB Eckl > J. B. Eckl
I reverted JB Eckl to a REDIRECT page. If you want to put a SD tag in J. B. Eckl, that is fine. ~ WikiDon 22:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, no need to delete a speedy to an article that still exists. I did notify User:Henrik about the author's actions, though.  I should have switched it back to a redirect too, but I must have just overlooked it in the page history. Thanks for letting me know! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 22:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The article was probably created by J. B. and/or his friends or associates, it is most likely "self-serving" and possibly Conflict-of-Interest, POV, etc. So, at the least it needs a review, and maybe additional THIRD-PARTY and notable sources. ~ WikiDon 22:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the guy looks like he could meet notability, so I don't think I'm gonna prod or afd it under that. If no sources are added in a few days, I might submit it for being unreferenced, though. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 15:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Updated My Information
Hi There, I had added more information on my subject from reliable sources. If you have any questions, please let me know. (Sheepshaedbayman) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheepshaedbayman (talk • contribs) 19:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Inferno Media
Did you mean "not internationally famous"? Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Of course I did! It's been like that all along, really... Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry 22:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

SubAntarctic Foundation for Ecosystems Research‎
Loeth, I have added some sources for verification- problem being whilst the work of the organisation is vry important they are very small- but I hope this makes them verifiale Mark7211 10:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Article - Lindsay Grace
I suspect that this is self bio. One site stated him as student. Other references do not give negligible info. Someone just added references from anonymous IP. This article is clearly disputed. 19 07:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

In fact there are two articles Lindsay Grace and Lindsay grace. After my edit to Lindsay grace, it was redirected to Lindsay Grace by other user. But anyway this article is disputed. 19 07:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 14:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Elizabeth Lowell- Only Love (2003)
A tag has been placed on Elizabeth Lowell- Only Love (2003) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Treygdor 20:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This is a redirect page created when I did a page move. It should be speedied under R3, not A1.  I went ahead and changed the db tag on the page. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Evisum
The Evisum Search Engine has been online since 1999. Could you please explain to me why you seek to delete its entry into wikipedia? According to Google there are 77,300 Results for Evisum. Please advise.

pputter November 13, 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pputter (talk • contribs) 19:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Estebo
How is that considered a personal attack? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonja+Roman (talk • contribs) 21:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NPA and it should be abundantly clear. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of vandalism
You are welcome. I find myself fighting a LOT more vandalism lately, as well as deleting cruft. Is it just me? Bearian 14:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I wish. Every time I turn on TheJosh's New Page Patrol script or Lupin's Anti-Vandal tools it's just a continuous fire hose of crap.  I swear it's going to wear out my mouse one of these days!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 14:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Sik
When you placed a speedy deletion tag on Sik, you tagged it as a Biography, when it was clearly not a biography, solely nonsense. In the future, read the whole content of the article before tagging it.

Thanks,  Redmarkviolinist  (talk) 21:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In the context of the article (below):

sik is a word for nang and nang is a word for reece which literaly means your the best at everything.
 * I interpreted the word "reece" as the name "Reece", which is why I tagged it as bio. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * (Edit-conflict but I'm posting it anyway) {db-bio} covers "person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content," not just biographies.   The article, if I read it correctly, is about a person named "Reece," pretending to be about a word.  I'm okay with {db-bio}, though I probably would have gone for {db-nonsense} as well. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I try to use db-nonsense as little as possible (when there are other options) because a number of folks seem to have a different definition of what, exactly, "patent nonsense" is. Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 21:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I respect that completely (I avoid {db-ad} for the same reasons). I think your use of {db-bio} is acceptable in this case, and I would have deleted it if I'd come upon it at the CSD queue.  Except that someone turned it into a redirect to Sikh, which I guess works, too. Not sure why they didn't choose Sick. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So I guess it could go either way? Thanks. Redmarkviolinist 16:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations you are now an administrator! Secretlondon 23:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Don't delete the main page!  -- Merope 23:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

--Angel David 02:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone! I'll try to keep my collateral damage to a minimum!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 15:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I dare you to block User:Jimmy Wales.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh I am so going to right after I delete the main page! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Any chance you're willing to make this block indef? He sounds like a sleeper to me. -- lucasbfr talk 15:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you think an indef is necessary now? I'd definitely be willing to up it to at least a week since the user re-did his vandalism as I was blocking him, though.  What do you think?  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 15:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, my personal opinion is that since this account was registered in June, never edited and only woke up to do a vandal move, its purpose was only do be able to perform autoconfirmed actions. That's why I would have indef blocked. I might be wrong though (but arguably, I'm not the nicest admin when it comes to blocks, I usually do 31 hours (which is 1 whole day + some time to make sure that the kid will no longer be in the school library when it expires) for a first offense, but I indef if the vandalism is something that was thought beforehand (ie vandalizing userpages, moving pages around, ...). And congratz on your RfA ;) -- lucasbfr talk 15:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Excellent argument, I think I agree.  I'm gonna go redo the block now.  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 16:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Delete : Joshua Hempstead
We are new to this, but we do have a copyright to Hempstead's Diary and are only trying to share what we think is valuable public information (250 years old!) How can we get this out there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by newlondonhistorypeople (talk • contribs) 16:45, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: HTML in your signature
It's not me officer! It's User:Redmarkviolinist's sig! He opens a &lt;sup> but does not close it. You don't see it because he uses also a &lt;big> he doesn't close. On most browsers, you end up with the regular font, but since I'm opening a &lt;sup> and closing it, you end up with only &lt;big> opened on the page. Care to drop him a note (I'm leaving work soon)? User:Lucasbfr 17:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * My bad! I think he noticed though...he came back and fixed it.  Thanks!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there a way of suggesting that changes to signatures are refused (by your preferences page) if you haven't closed the tag? how do I fill out a bug report form thingi? (I'm relatively new) Cheers <font color="#aaaaaa"> PhilB ~ <font color="#cccccc">T/<font color="#cccccc">C 18:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, there's not...the only thing you can do is let the user who has the broken signature know. What sort of bug are you encountering?  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh no, I have no problem, I just thought it would be a good thing to change! <font color="#aaaaaa"> PhilB ~ <font color="#cccccc">T/<font color="#cccccc">C 20:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

You deleted my autodoc page, why?
I disagree with your delete of my autodoc page. You are a exclusionist I presume and you might be of an out of control ego sort that controls the works of software that are made by yellow people like me (spiral dynamics) I believe you would benefit from reading "Boomeritis" by Ken Wilber.

Have a nice day, Larry B. Daniel Inventor of Autodoc —Preceding unsigned comment added by LarryDaniel (talk • contribs) 20:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I deleted it because it is promotional in nature, which is a violation of WP:SPAM. It's as simple as that.  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 20:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!
Hey, congratulations on your RFA! Tiptoety 22:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and thank you especially for the support! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 22:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Howdy Ioeth, thanks for participating in my request for adminship. I am happy to say it was successful, 55/0/0, and I am looking forward to getting to work. Thanks for your vote of confidence. By all means, feel free to check in on my work to come. Suggestions and advice are always appreciated.

--TeaDrinker 04:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)