User talk:Iraqisantur

November 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would ask that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Iraqi Santur. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ''We are working to build a better encyclopedia. Please assume good faith. This is with respect to your edit comments in the Iraqi Santur article on 2011-11-07. "Vandalism" in Wikipedia has a very specific meaning; you should be careful not to conflate editing you don't like with vandalism. Cheers. N2e (talk) 13:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC)'' N2e (talk) 13:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks 4 giving
Hello Ms IraqiSantur,

Congratulations on your page of mis-information. I told you a few times I can help you make the Iraqi page technically & historically correct.

and you have blown me off.

time to swallow your pride.

Just a little info: User N2e is a Senior Editor at Wikipedia

You might NOT want to call him names and accuse him of vandalizing, that's a really dumb thing to do.

You should NOT talk like that to anyone.

Again I don't care what you do on your page. But a little advice: Using a children's book of music is NOT a real reference.

They are asking for PAGE NUMBERS. Which means you have to actually read the book and find a page that you are using a reference.

Stop arguing and fighting with people. It's RUDE and really pointless.

This is an ENCYCLOPEDIA - Please do a dictionary search on what that word means.

it does NOT mean start a war with anyone else who tries to correct your mistakes or asks you for REAL PROOF

You will end up getting banned if you keep acting like that. You did the same thing with me on Santur.

Show me one NOTABLE Iraqi Santur player. Do you know what NOTABLE means?

It means accomplished, world famous musicians.

I play Santur almost as good as my father. & I don't even put my own name on the Santur page.

You know why? Because I have NOT accomplished 10% of what my father has.

And I don't have pride. I perform Santur with Prince, Killers, Black Eyed Peas and American mainstream music.

I don't need my name on that page.

I put people who spent their entire lives contributing to the world of Santur and that's all they do.

You can NOT remove "Citation Needed" tags that Wikipedia Editors place on your page.

when they do that, you have to reference BETTER and more ACCURATE DETAILED REFERENCES.

And now that you have found 3 books that have ISBN numbers, you think you have done your job. it's bullshit.

Trying to remove the Tag will only bring it back and cause Wiki Editors to get annoyed with your editing.

I just came back from the Ethnomusicology Conference in Philadelphia.

I met a variety of professors and master musicians who are Arabic.

They are going to come to the Iraqi Santur page and help you fix it.

Don't start fighting with them and changing their information.

I told them the story and asked them to help.

I also printed my page and yours to show them and they laughed.

They told me to tell you that there was no Home Depot in Mesopotamia :)

You will appreciate there input and they have a right to be on here as everyone does.

Just cause you created the page, doesn't mean you own it or are the police of that page. I told you that before.

EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO INPUT REAL INFORMATION ON HERE.

AND FROM READING YOUR INFORMATION: YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT A SANTUR PLAYER, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IRAQI MUSIC OR THE IRAQI SANTUR AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MUSIC.

AND YOU HATE IRANIANS FROM YOUR COMMENTS.

But you pulled off doing something for your culture, which is why you care probably and I admire that.

I'm just as proud of my culture.

But I don't go on the Piano page and start crapping on people who edit on the Piano page.

For the same reason: After our last argument, I haven't touched the Iraqi Santur page, even though I can point out a lot of errors and incorrect information.

Do you even know what Chromatic means? THE IRAQI SANTUR IS NOT CHROMATIC. THE ONLY SANTUR THAT IS FULLY CHROMATIC IS: DULCIMERS & CYMBALLUMS

Your English is also very poor and you should let someone who is qualified to re-write your page with proper english.

please don't take anything I said personally. THIS IS NOT AN INVITATION TO ANOTHER FIGHT.

I've tried repeatedly to talk to you and communicate but you continue to ignore

so I'm just going to come on here and let you know: what you need to know.

you can take it or leave it. that's your business.

I was informed by Wikipedia if I have a problem with someone to use the "Talk" button to communicate, so I'm following the rules peacefully.

Either way, Happy Thanksgiving & I sincerely hope you have a happy holiday.

I hope one day: You reply nicely one time to start a real dialogue and move forward gaining a friend.

I don't need anything from you. So you have nothing to lose and a lot to gain.

Who do think makes a better Kabob? Persian's or Iraqi's ?? lol understand? we're all the same.

peace — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santurman (talk • contribs) 07:05, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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Concern regarding Draft:Nailute
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Your draft article, Draft:Nailute


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February 2023
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