User talk:Irish breakfast 72

Moving User pages to sandbox
Hi Irish breakfast 72, I will be moving your User page to your User:Irish breakfast 72/sandbox (link will turn blue) where you continue working on your article and submit for review when ready. Your User page is to write about your interests and activities as they relate to editing Wikipedia. You can read more at WP:User pages. I will also be leaving some additional information. S0091 (talk) 17:38, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I missed you had already created a draft. I have added a template there so you can submit the draft for review.  Note, having a COI does not preclude from creating the article; its just strongly discouraged.  However, as long as it is submitted using the Articles for creation process (which is what the submit button does), you should be ok.  If the article is accepted, you should avoid making changes to it directly. S0091 (talk) 17:49, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Irish breakfast 72. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. S0091 (talk) 17:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome Irish breakfast 72! Now that you've joined Wikipedia, there are 40,403,741 registered editors!

Hello Irish breakfast 72. Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions!

I'm S0091, one of the other editors here, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge. Alternatively, leave me a message at my talk page or type  here on your talk page and someone will try to help. To get some practice editing you can use a sandbox. You can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Mypage/sandbox&action=edit&preload=Template:User_Sandbox/preload create your own personal sandbox] for use any time. It's perfect for working on bigger projects. Then for easy access in the future, you can put  on your userpage.

Please remember to: The best way to learn about something is to experience it. Explore, learn, contribute, and don't forget to have some fun!
 * Always sign your posts on talk pages. You can do this either by clicking on the OOUI JS signature icon LTR.png button on the edit toolbar or by typing four tildes  at the end of your post. This will automatically insert your signature, a link to your talk page, and a timestamp.
 * Leave descriptive edit summaries for your edits. Doing so helps other editors understand what changes you have made and why you made them.

 Sincerely, S0091 (talk) 17:40, 28 November 2020 (UTC)   [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:S0091&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Welcome_to_Wikipedia/user-talk_preload (Leave me a message)]

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November 2020
Hello, Irish breakfast 72, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

COI
You have an obvious conflict of interest, please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below:


 * When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.
 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

More
Thanks for your message. You have now been told twice that you must declare any conflict of interest and you have not responded, except to create a new account which could be seen as trying to hide a COI. If you attempt to rewrite again without responding to the COI request, I will block your accounts. In particular, if you are being paid to write the article, or are doing so as part of your employment, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Irish breakfast 72. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:   . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.

The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or should be deleted as well. See What about article x?. However, I will point out that they all had proper in-line refs, and didn't bold every mention of their subject. Also your references mostly appear to be primary sources, often co-written by her, rather than independent third-party secondary sources, and the supposed honours and awards are completely unsourced. You also had multiple external links in your text.

See, for example Pamela C. Rasmussen as a page about a scientist. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  10:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

More
You have put your declaration in the wrong place, I'll move it shortly. She is clearly notable, it's your text that's the problem. Please look at Pamela C. Rasmussen
 * You have invented your own system of referencing which isn't acceptable here. Put the reference in the text after the bit it is supporting, at the end will generate the list.
 * Don't use bare urls for refs, I suggest
 * Don't use et al, list all authors, otherwise we can't see if it's a self ref (in fairness, you have done this in your second list of refs). You should also write journal names in full and format them correctly, suggest ,
 * Don't write stuff that you can't reference
 * Don't bold her name except first occurrence
 * Don't put external links in text
 * Don't capitalise "Award" or "Discovery", looks promotional and is ungrammatical

Above all, what makes her notable is her professorship and her job. Interminable bullet lists of her own publications don't add to that, and similarly primary refs aren't really suitable. If her discoveries are notable, a proper independent sources verifies that, a list of her own papers doesn't Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a bit underlinked, I've added some obvious links just to the first few sentences, please see if there are any others
 * I'm not a fan of bullet points instead of proper sentences, especially for a career, but that's up to you. The list of supposed honours and awards is entirely unsourced, none have dates, and most don't seem to be linked to Wikipedia articles, so may not be that notable. If you are going to claim that she has an award, you must reference it. this is probably OK to support those it mentions Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  16:51, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

ok now
I have accepted the article DGG ( talk ) 17:07, 20 April 2021 (UTC)