User talk:Irishguy/Archive 23

Don't remove my interviews
You removed all my interviews! These are real interviews!!! Just because they are on a blog doesn't make them any less real. I'm sick of this. These are my hard earned interviews! Please put them back! Veduta


 * Stop spamming. IrishGuy talk 17:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Please don't say "stop spamming" that's unnecessary. I've dealt with these problems before. I feel it's because I do not work for a major magazine. Please understand this is not self-promotion, these interviews contribute valuable information to my subjects. If you'd like me to add facts to their profiles with footnotes then fine, but please consider putting my interviews back as others like you have had no problem with me in the past. I know you are doing what you feel is right but I am not a spammer and I only add these links to my interviews to give addition information like the interviews that have not been deleted for doing the same thing. Thanks for understanding and not attacking me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.215.113 (talk • contribs)


 * Please. This isn't spamming? Through your various accounts and your IPs you have done absolutely nothing but mass add links to your own website. You are spamming. Stop. IrishGuy talk 03:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, and I know your doing your job but please help me understand why you allow other links to interviews but not mine? Other interviewers put up their own links. Look at The Raveonettes site. What is different, are you just going after me? An interview is an interview, end of story. Shouldn't it be every interview or no interview? I'll stop putting up links but I really am confused why I have been singled out. Wikipedia is filled with people adding their own links and somehow they don't get deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.215.113 (talk • contribs)


 * Simply because others may not have been caught yet is not an excuse for you to continue spamming. IrishGuy talk 22:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You made your point. Congrats, pour yourself a beer and delete all the other interviews on the pages you deleted mine, it's your job. Then everyone is happy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.215.113 (talk • contribs)

Please dont delete my pages
As they are merely a joke. And are not to be offensive in any way. Give laughs, becasue everone needs them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garrettr00lz (talk • contribs)


 * No, it is vandalism. Stop. IrishGuy talk 23:42, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Why
That is not vandalism, it is empty space that someone may want to use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garrettr00lz (talk • contribs)


 * It is vandalism. Find somewhere else to play. IrishGuy talk 23:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, thanks for the RfA support! I won't be heartbroken if I don't make it, but I thought it was worth a shot. :-) Dppowell 00:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd like to see you make it. Good luck! IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

jody mayfield
The jody mayfield page is accurate. What is wrong with the page?Jodymayfield 02:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * If you are Jody Mayfield, as I have warned you before, please read the conflict of interest guidelines. If you aren't Mayfield, you need to change your username. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep Robinson Vil
Robinson won the Pan African Film Festival. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0888491/ http://www.paff.org/html/film_guide.phpJodymayfield 02:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Series
The Boston Wrecking Crew, having demolished the Tribe, is now breaking Rocks. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Be it 13-1 to 2-1, 1 run is not enough against the Bostons. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 13:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Get your broom ready for Sunday night. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

How sweep it is. d:) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Lourdes & Bernadette revision
Top work reverting those pages mate. Cheeky buggers. RoyalBlueStuey 08:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Insex
The links added to the insex article are an important update to the current status of the "Insex legacy". Kindly stop removing them. They have been put up as external links and non-linked text. They are not advertisements and are merely meant to inform people of the current status of people who are interested in learning about Insex. Isn't that the point of Wikipedia? To inform people. The new sites are relevant to the article and do not violate any Wikipedia policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.93.190.226 (talk) 21:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The talk page of the article covers this. You are adding advertising, not encyclopedic content. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Pedigree (band) page deletion
Pedigree (band) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View AfD)

PROD removed. Request for sources appears to have been ignored. A googles search for "Pedigree" obviously would bring forth a ridiculous amount of hits. However, a google search for Pedigree and Taavi Aavik (a band member) brings forth 18 hits. A search for Pedigree and Margo Rindemaa (another band member) brings forth 2 hits. Non-notable band. IrishGuy talk 08:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC) _____ First of all. The problem with sources. Indeed, the band does not have a homepage, they don't have any written biography anywhere up on the internet. I am getting the information straight from one of the band member (Holden Laamann) via MSN. How am i supposed to link to sources like that?

Non-notable band? How would it be possible to make it notable therefore, if even wikipedia wants to delete the page? Why not try a google search with Pedigree and Holden Laamann? I can't agree with the statement of 'non-notable' band, who has been around for soon to be 15 years and released a handful of records. They are not widely known perhaps, but they are not making pop-music either.

So please consider all this and do not delete this page. I am adding more and more information as soon as i get it.

With best regards, Berit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynne21 (talk • contribs)


 * Your article is completely unsourced. Any claims of possible notability are without corroboration. For the record, a google search of "Pedigree" and "Holden Laamann" brings forth 13 hits. That isn't exactly screaming with notability. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 09:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

How am i supposed to corrobrate it then, when it comes straight from the bandmember without any internet assurance links?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynne21 (talk • contribs) 09:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Notability? That's a kinda pseudo-problem here, i'd say... They have played with Metallica in front of 80 000 people, directed 5 videos, nomintated 3 times for Estonian music awards, Conspiracy records and Adnoise Am distro their records etc. How come other Estonian bands such as No Big Silence and Metsatöll for example don't get deleted. They are even much younger than Pedigree and such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynne21 (talk • contribs)


 * You are speaking of original research which isn't allowed. Additionally, if you are writing an article about a subject with which you are intimately involved, you have a clear conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not a venue for advertising. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 09:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Alright, i see. Their homepage is down at the moment unfortunately and not really accessable through the wayback machine: But say... if the information would be up on the net somewhere (some band blog or something alike) would it be enough sourced then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynne21 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Stop deleting the fanpage!
Listen you,

The fanpage listed at the site for Sven-Ole Thorsen is valid at wikipedia, because it is the largest fan-page available, and has tons of both pictures and information about the actor, and when you remove it, you remove information which might be useful to other people. As I've said before, ONE fanpage is OKAY by Wikipedia standards, so please STOP reverting my edits when trying to put it back. Thank you. KnatLouie 13:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:CIV and WP:OWN. After that, a good look at WP:EL might help. Much of the website is copyright violations and the site fails the criteria for external link inclusion. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 16:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Jack Kerouac at WP:LGBT
I'm nonplussed. I find it inappropriate for an editor who is not a member or participant of WP:LGBT studies to determine what should be within the scope of the project and what should not. There is evidence enough for Kerouac to be a part of the project simply because a biographer has documented instances within Kerouac's life of his having same-sex romantic relationships, his intense internalized homophobia, as well as Alan Ginsberg's admission that he slept with Kerouac. Whether you or I believe or disbelieve the sources is irrelevant; they are about Jack Kerouac and they are reliable references. Kerouac falls within the scope of WP:LGBT studies for this reason; his willingness to be out during his life is irrelevant. Many of the biographies in our project cover people who were not comfortable or safe enough to be publicly gay or bisexual. I cannot imagine going into a project of which I had very little interest and dictating to them what they shouldn't cover. I don't understand why you would do this. --Moni3 18:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3


 * There isn't evidence enough. One biographer made claims that he even prefaced with rigid divisions such as hetero-, bi-, and homosexuality do not fit reality, certainly not Kerouac's, and should not be used to label him. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies
Re. the removal of references to Jack Kerouac. This is actively being discussed on the talk page right now. Could you please weigh in there and state your rationale before reverting further? You've already done so three times today - A l is o n  ❤ 18:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please read the above comment as well as the talk page for Jack Kerouac. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Tyar
I thought that he made socks but I guess they were just attack pages. Can you delete Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Tyar‎ and remove the tag on Tyar's user page? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Got it. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 20:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

CPI
I hope that this page is more neutral now. If it is not, PLEASE DO NOT REVERT, but make appropriate edits so that the conflict of interest shows up under criticism. IrishCPIGuy 21:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC) IrishCPIGuy


 * You are adding personal commentary and original research. It has been removed. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. : )
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. I owe ya one. ; ) Hardcore gamer 48 00:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. :) <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 00:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

ZCubes
Can you explain why ZCubes is considered not "significant" when you have articles for ZOHO products, Inkscape, and even totally defunct companies?

Also can you explain why these are there in wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EditGrid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkFree http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netvibes

In any case, I can find examples of 1000s of pages about similar or even insignificant topics that are all around in Wikipedia. So, why is this selective reaction? What basis as you using for your claim of not "significant"? Just that you are not aware of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zpally (talk • contribs) 17:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

If you are not aware of technology changes that are happening, you would not make arbitrary decisions reflecting your personal lack of understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zpally (talk • contribs) 17:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid inclusion criteria. Your account as well as 216.165.209.211 have been spamming ZCubes all over Wikipedia. As noted on your talk page, this isn't acceptable. Please stop. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Katy May cosmetics...
...who you just reverted, is likely yet another sockpuppet of User:Ron liebman. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Does he have some attachment to Jayne Meadows? <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 19:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Jayne and Steve are one of his sidelights, as baseball is Ron Liebman's main deal (he's a self-styled trivia expert and a SABR member). Another one was the panelists on The View, but he hasn't done that one for awhile. The deal about Steve Allen "not having to suffer through 2000" or whatever, has been a recent recurring theme. The smark-aleck attitude expressed in the edit summary also fits his pattern. I've reported him to User:Wknight94, who typically blocks this guy's socks on sight, as Liebman is a banned user. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * In fact, he just did. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:01, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I am vaguely familiar with his baseball edits but I didn't know he wandered out into other areas as well. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 20:01, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * (ec*3) All that nonsense about Steve Allen benefitting because he missed the 2000 elections is one of Liebman's trademarks. He's been doing that since the beginning.  —Wknight94 (talk) 20:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah. I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 20:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There was also something about Beezler or some such, whatever that is. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * (ec) Well, not as long as I thought now that I've checked. But still...  —Wknight94 (talk) 20:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Overall, he's approaching his one-year anniversary, in January, I think. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

will you please stop deleting information that i have posted. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAuroraGuardian (talk • contribs)


 * No. You are adding unsourced gossip to articles. That is unencyclopedic. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Rdsoxfa
I've blanked & protected User talk:Rdsoxfa as he has no chance of being unblocked & was using it to simultaneously spam & post personal attacks. —  iride  scent  23:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That works. I tried to explain his reasons for being blocked but he either wouldn't get it...or didn't care. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course if he ever does become famous... you have it on record what he called you. Thanks for your efforts in this matter, anyhows. LessHeard vanU 23:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * LOL...I didn't think about it that way. If Brad Pitt had called me an asshole 20 years ago, I would have one hell of a story today. :) <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with the user Foofiles on Cosby Show article
Irishguy, I was wondering if I could get your help in dealing with the user Foofiles on The Cosby Show article. That user undid your revert to this article, bringing back text which mentions Everybody Hates Chris. Since then, I've been having an edit war over this text with Foofiles. My concerns here are (a) that the addition of Everybody Loves Chris in this spot is a violation of WP:SYNTH, and (b) that Foofiles has problems with WP:CIV in the edit comments left on this and other articles. I would appreciate any help you could provide here. JTSchreiber 04:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It appears to have been taken care of. :) <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 16:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! JTSchreiber 04:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Whatever
if you think im leaving inapporiate pages, that are advaertised whatever you are WRONG!!!!! because HNTTMM really did happen, you can just not believe me so whatever...i don't care. he lolo ilio wahine oe!!!!! if you can just please give it a chance and allow me to finish it then I would be very maika'i.

mahalo nui loa...

haukaikela HNTTMM REP. Haukaikela 07:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Worldwidegirl86 09:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC) Hi, I added two links to the Artikel about the TV show 'Californication' and they where deleted. I am not adding them for pageranks because thay are not even in google yet and I am aware that they won't improve the rank anyway. I added them because they are THE only fansite and forum abut the show and they give information and are places for people to discuss the show. I will add the Forum again and as a compromise I will add the site later as soon as it is completly finished. Worldwidegirl86 09:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * As noted on the talk page, the website has no content, merely a link to the forum. The forum, as noted above, isn't allowed per WP:EL. Beyond that, it only has 6 registered members so it isn't as though it is a high traffic website. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 14:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I get that, I will come back when there are more users —Preceding unsigned comment added by Worldwidegirl86 (talk • contribs) 09:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Username 'Maproom'
You have written in my chat that my username may not meet Wikipedia's username policy, without saying what you think is inappropriate about it. You invited me there to discuss it, but when I responded you ignored my response. So I am trying again here. Maproom 11:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

For Posterity
The discussion started and ended before you were notified apparently, but in case you want a looksee because your ears were burning: WP:ANI.--Isotope23 talk 16:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah. How interesting. I don't think I have ever had a stalker before. :) <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 16:21, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not all that interesting; turned out to be a typical, dreary, block evading sockpuppet troll.--Isotope23 talk 17:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Give me time!
You just deleted my Wiki page which I had just spent over an hour putting together with some difficulty.:-( I was still working on it when you deleted it. Could you give a bit of leeway to people in future please? Dave Dutton. TheInspector 18:06, 29 October 2007 (UTC).


 * It was a copyright violation. From creation to your last edit was well less than an hour. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Re Give me time
How could it be a copyright violation - when I was the author of the original copy? Is it possible for an author to violate his own copyright. I think not. Could you put the page back please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheInspector (talk • contribs)


 * No offense intended, but you are just a person on the internet claiming you own the copyright to something. Can you provide proof? <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

NOTLD68.com
There is a lot of information on www.notld68.com that would be of interest to someone who wants to learn more about the film Night of the Living Dead, such as the script, locations, convention appearances and house plan reproductions. There is no other site on the net that is solely dedicated to this film. Why is it unacceptable? 63.150.172.102 21:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It fails WP:EL specifically
 * Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.
 * Links mainly intended to promote a website.
 * Please don't continue to add that website. And frankly, it isn't the only website devoted to that film. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I just gave a few examples of information that is not contained, I could go on but what I listed should suffice. If you feel that there are other comparable sites, show some evidence yourself. 63.150.172.102 18:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.150.172.102 (talk) 17:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Rodrigo article
I am curious as to what section of my "Curse of the Rodrigo" article you found objectionable. I am offended that you would take it down so quickly, as I put quite a great deal of effort into creating it, and would like to request that it be put back up. Thank you.

-pogobat —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pogobat (talk • contribs) 22:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't accept original research. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

You deleted the page I was working on
You need to pay more attention when deleting articles. I was in the middle of uploading files for the article that you deleted, Stick Figure Battle. I realize it was small but I wasn't done with it. WHAT GIVE YOU THE IRGHT TO DELETE IT WITHOUT DISSCUSSIN WITH ME FIRST?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs) 22:50, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The article had no context. It wasn't your article. Please read WP:OWN. As for "what gave me the right"...please read WP:SPEEDY. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

HENCE THE FACT I WAS WORKING ON IT! I HAD JUST CREATED THE ARTICLE AND WAS WORKING ON IT!!! YOU SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH ME FIRST!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs)


 * Again, please read the above links. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I DON'T CARE THAT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO JUST DELETE STUFF CAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE IT. I HAD JUST CREATED IT, SEEING HOW IT LOOKED AND WAS THEN GOING BACK TO ADD TO IT. AT THE TIME YOU DELETED IT I WAS MAKING SURE THERE WERE ANY SPELLING ERRORS OR FORMATING ISSUES!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs)


 * Are you done yelling? <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Technically I'm not yelling. I'm just typing with capital letters to make sure what I'm saying is clear to you. Is this better?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs)

Here because you had your freind message me I'll do what they ask. You deleted the article i was working on. Your reasoning was stated as CSD A1: Very short article providing little or no context) . The reason the article was small was because it had just been created, and I was still in the process of writing it. You deleted the article while I was working on it. What I had worked on of it was a lot more. I uploaded media to use in the article, and wasn't done with it when you hastily deleted it. Please undo the deltion and be more carefull and discuss with people before you delte other articles. Thank you- NukesAGeek —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs) 23:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't have anyone message you. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Well another moderator messaged me. ANYWAYS... are you willing to discuss our, quarell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs) 23:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I take it that you aren't willing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NukesAGeek (talk • contribs) 00:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

NF deletion
Irishguy why did you delete Narutofan Forums? Mengde Mengde


 * It was an article about a non-notable website. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It's the 86th largest forum on the internet with 100,000 members, how's that not notable? Mengde


 * Please read WP:NOTE and WP:WEB. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

No Cash
Look, I created an article for No Cash, a band that I and many others listen to, because there was no previous article. There isn't THAT much information on the internet about them, so I worked with what I had. It wasn't that terrible of an article, as far as I'm concerned. I tried. I'm just trying to spread my musical knowledge to the rest of society and then you have to come along and delete it because you feel like it. I'm sure there are many worse articles out there that could stand some editing, yet you delete mine, which I find completely uncalled for. Sorry I was just trying to contribute a little bit to a website I use so often, which is SUPPOSED to be edited by its users. But I guess not on your watch..... Katherineeeee 23:45, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Nobody said it was a terrible article. It was simply an article about a band that didn't assert any level of importance or notability. Please read WP:NOTE and WP:BAND. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 00:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

balls. Fine. I'll fix it, except now I'd probably have to rewrite the whole thing. Thanks a lot. Katherineeeee 03:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Irish Guy, You are deleting my page (Joe A. Porter) on the grounds of a lack of Biographical significance. Unless you are a registered landscape architect, I don't see how you are qualified to make this assertion. Tell me how someone who has achieved the highest accredidation in the field is not worthy of notation?--Andersry 00:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The speedy deletion of Terrence Woodyard is contested
You have marked Terrence Woodyard for speedy deletion. He is an American basketball player currently playing basketball in England with Chad McKnight and was the college roommate of Kevin Martin. Please consider removing the speedy deletion template. Thank you for your time and attention to this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contributor wiki (talk • contribs)


 * Actually, as you can see I haven't edited that article at all, let alone placed a tag on it. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 00:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi IrishGuy, Thank you so much for your speedy response; however, I received the following notification while editing this page:

"Editing Terrence Woodyard (section) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search User Irishguy (talk) deleted this article after you started editing it, with a reason of: CSD A3: No meaningful content Please confirm that you really want to recreate this article."

Please advise of next steps. Thanks again!


 * The article I deleted had no content. The one in existence does. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 01:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah! I see! Thanks again and have a good night! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contributor wiki (talk • contribs) 01:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Why'd you delete?
why'd you delete the page on Joel Hiller? It contains valid information, as was shown in a recent interview with Joel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spazzoo (talk • contribs)


 * It was an absolute nonsense article. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

what are you talking about? I happen to know Joel Hiller (our mothers were best friends) and he gave me permission to publish that article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spazzoo (talk • contribs)


 * I couldn't care less if you had permission, it was still nonsense. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 01:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Page about Q-Bah on Wikipedia
Hey Irish guy! How are you?

For some reason the page for Q-Bah has been deleted. I worked on it for and with him (he's my cousin), because my English is good and I wanted to write something about him that would interest the readers. I've added more than 30 sources and facts from websites. Q-Bah is a radio-dj here and we're all very proud of him. He's interviewed big artists such as Sean Paul and because he's on the radio every day, he's also on a couple of cd's with famous artists such as Fabolous, Ziggi and The Partysquad. He's written stories and write sfor MAXIM, Vibe en several Dutch newspapers. I think peeps def. would like to know more about him. If it's just a matter of writing it differentely or editing, please let me know and I will edit the file right away.

I have over a hundred articles and links to back it up if you need more. I alos put them in the article. You can see Q-Bah on youtube, myspace en the Dutch Wikipedia (Reinout van Gendt/Q-Bah).

Thanks in advance for your help!

Kind regards,

Michael Maidwell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.103.66 (talk • contribs)


 * It was deleted per the discussion at Articles for deletion/Q-Bah. You can find more detail there. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 16:52, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for voicing in at a good time. :-)  M URGH   disc.  01:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. :) <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 01:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Your 3RR report...
It's kinda malformed -- you provided no diffs as explained in the instructions. Could you rectify this? And he's still at it... aren't you an admin? Can't you deal with blatant 3RR violations yourself? Gscshoyru 03:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I reverted him twice. To block him would risk being improper. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I suppose, that does in fact make sense. Otherwise admins could impose their power on content disputes because they believe they're right, which could lead to problems -- better to be safe than sorry. But even with as blatant as a rule-breaking as this one, though? Gscshoyru 18:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It is best to err on the side of caution and have another admin look over the situation. Admins shouldn't use the tools if they have been personally involved in the situation. While I really wasn't (the IP filed a false vandal report against the person who reverted him. While following up on it I found he was blatantly pushing his edit through using multiple IPs) it would still risk looking/being improper. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 18:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, point taken. It's just that I have found 3RR reporting to be a bit slow, and you have to sit with the bad edit on the page waiting for an admin to finally look at the noticeboard, as there aren't many who "patrol" it. But your 3RR was malformed, so theoretically it should have been refused, so be more careful. I wonder if AzaToth can add an interactive tool to twinkle that'll let you make half-automated reports... hm. Gscshoyru 18:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * 3RR is indeed slow these days. Honestly, I should go over there more often to assist. I didn't provide diffs for multiple reversions, true, but I figured a glance at the contributions would show that is the only article the IPs had edited and the edit summary's show they are simply reverts. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 19:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

 * ) Rarelibra 20:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem :) <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 20:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

COI
Hi. Which page or photo do you feel is a COI? I'll either try to explain myself, or remove it.

Thanks Indofunk 23:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You are working on an article, User:Indofunk/indofunktest, with the same name as your username. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 23:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That page is actually just for my own personal testing purposes, I didn't intend to make it live. Is it still a COI to have it as part of my user profile? If so, I'll remove it. Related question: The image I uploaded for that test page is obviously live, although it's not linked from anywhere. Do I need to remove that? Second related question, does my Firebird page present any COI, since I play the instrument? That is the page I intend to publish live, as an edit to this existing page: Firebird (trumpet) Thanks for answering my newbie questions! Indofunk 00:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The Firebrand article isn't a COI although the link to your band on that article would be. WP:USER outlines userpage guidelines. As long as it isn't a blatant advertisement, you should be fine. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 00:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks again. Reading the userpage guidelines, it appears that both the Indofunk article and the image can remain where they are (that is, as long as I don't publish the Indofunk page). Am I reading that correctly? As for the Firebird page, I do include a link to my own site, but that is simply for information, and because all the research that I've done through the manufacturer and all my contacts in the trumpet/music world (as well as Google) point to only myself and Rajesh Mehta (who I don't know personally) as the only extant users of this instrument. It is, as already mentioned in the existing stub, an exceptionally rare instrument. Do you think it's safe that I remove the reference to my webpage? It's certainly not intended as advertisement. Thanks again ... Indofunk 00:42, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * As I said, writing an article about an instrument you have knowledge of is not a WP:COI. Otherwise no guitarist could add information to Guitar. :) That being said, adding a link back to your own website as a "see also" does come across as advertising yourself. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 00:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll remove it. Indofunk 01:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Again, thanks for your help. If you see any other discrepancies or violations, please let me know. Indofunk 01:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Vintagekits
This man is back, and is attacking me for saying things he finds uncomfortable. I mentioned the "contribution" he made in the Discussion on Carrickfergus, and now he's objecting to a comment I've made in the West Briton Discussion page. Millbanks 21:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Alison seems to be the admin most acquainted with him. You might try dropping her a line. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks as ever, Irishguy. I'll do that. Millbanks 10:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not objecting to wanting you are saying - I am asking what your post has to do with the article - you have a long history of spamming on talkpages as Irishguy can confirm.--Vintagekits 10:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what "wanting what you are saying" means, but for a good example of spamming, see your Discussion comments on Carrickfergus. Millbanks 10:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, requesting that you back up your statements with references surely is "spamming"!!.--Vintagekits 11:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
For the revert on my user page and the block of that IP. Much appreciated. Sephiroth BCR ( Converse ) 21:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Zunner
look up Zunner on wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icee365 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You're funny
If you'll just tell me what I need to drop in to make Duane Laflin a legitimate entry in list of magicians, honestly, I'll do it.....he's real.....he's notable.......lots of reliable sources regarding his work and performances.......if you can just stop undoing my work, I can post a whole bunch of them. Buddpaul 22:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You must provide sources and outline notability. The article didn't have any of that. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The speedy deletion of Jason Howell is questioned
You marked Jason Howell for speedy deletion. He is an American podcaster working for CNET Networks. He is the producer and co-host on CNET's Buzz Out Loud podcast. Why does he keep on getting deleted? Tcardone05 04:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * There was no assertion of importance. Additionally, this clearly shows you were attempting to use Wikipedia in a promotional manner. Please don't. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 17:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

So you're basically saying that if someone posts on a forum, saying that they have created a Wikipedia page for someone who is relevant, important, and well-known to the fan base of a top technology podcast, all they have to do is receive a response from said person thanking them and it qualifies as promotional? That's ridiculous. All that happened is Mr. Howell thanked the page's creator for establishing him on Wikipedia in a matter that connected him to Buzz Out Loud, thereby enabling Buzz Out Loud fans to learn more about Mr. Howell for informational/encyclopedic purposes. That's what Wikipedia is for, is it not? What you are saying could also infer that Molly Wood's page on Wikipedia should also be deleted, because she has stated several times that the addition and modification of humorous information on her page flatters her. As she is showing appreciation for the edits, should her page be deleted as well? Because that's the reason you gave in the above statement regarding Mr. Howell's page! Erier2003 01:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Did you see the part where I wrote There was no assertion of importance? The article itself stated (unsourced) that fans want him to be a co-host of the show...which denotes that he isn't. A guy who occasionally shows up on a podcast isn't notable. Anyone can have a mycnet page. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 01:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess you must've missed the part where he's the producer of Buzz Out Loud. The podcast wouldn't happen without him. He contributes regularly to the show, but as of yet is not an officially recognized co-host. That is only a title, however. Mr. Howell's contributions, beyond simply editing the show and uploading it to the CNET servers, include constant additions to conversations between officially recognized hosts and guests. If you looked a little closer you'd notice that his forum posts, which anybody can indeed make, have something that most pages don't have: a CNET editor badge next his username. I wonder what that means... Erier2003 01:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * To the people questioning the deletion; Has anyone ever written about him that wasn't from CNet? See the notability critera for people basic criteria #3. - Optigan13 01:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * As noted above, the person must meet the criteria at WP:NOTE and WP:BIO. Amassing people here to come rail on my talk page won't make a difference if you cannot meet those criteria. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

This argument is pointless because no matter what we say or how we put it, the Wikipedia rules will always overrule us -- whether or not the rules are just and fair. On behalf of the "masses" that you claim were supposed to rail on your talk page (a little egotistical, are we not?), I would like to know what specific changes must be made to Jason Howell's page in order for it to stay on Wikipedia. Erier2003 02:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * First read WP:CIV. When you are done there, try WP:NOTE and WP:BIO. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I have read all three pages, and I have noted their significance. I must point out, however, that my "egotistical" comment was in reference to your assumption that a CNET Forums thread about this debate or in any way regarding it is a harbinger or indicator of people coming to rail on your talk page. That is not true. The thread was created to notify BOL fans that this is happening, so they can attempt to rectify the problem by creating a page that cites sources and gives evidence in support of Mr. Howell's significance. This brings me to my point regarding WP:NOTE and WP:BIO. Because Mr. Howell is a podcast producer for a very widely-known podcast, I believe that he is significant. Please advise me of a solution to the problem that involves Mr. Howell's Wikipedia page staying active -- albeit edited for compliance to the aforementioned rules. Erier2003 02:19, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Uh-huh. That is why two editors, neither of which created the article showed up here. You never even edited the article. If the thread isn't the reason you are here...am I to believe you are psychic? <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I am here because of the thread, but your statement involves the word "rail" which leads me to believe that you assumed the CNET thread was compelling its readers to vandalize your talk page. That part is untrue. In fact, your statement would've been correct had you said that the CNET thread asked readers to post on your talk page with questions or objections. I believe that is one of the things talk pages are for. Erier2003 02:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Railing is exactly what you are doing. The thread is filled with personal attacks and whining. You came to this page and immediately became rude and confrontational. Railing. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe I am merely objecting in a manner that suggests dislike or disapproval of a decision. But more to the point of this discussion, you said farther up on this page that ''A guy who occasionally shows up on a podcast isn't notable. Anyone can have a mycnet page.'' Do you see why this statement, as it pertains to Mr. Howell, was uninformed and incorrect? Erier2003 02:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You do realize that when policy is pointed out to you and questions pertaining to them are posed to you...you simply dodge them and come at me personally. I will assume from that silence that you concede your article fails WP:BIO. As such, there is nothing more to discuss here. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 02:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Find at least one article that isn't from associated with Howell or the show (or CNet). Did a magazine or website that writes on various podcasts write about him? Was he covered in any newspapers? Finding articles from sources not associated with the subject is generally the quickest and most direct way to prove that whatever subject you are writing on is notable. Even if a show is notable, that doesn't mean the producer of said show is notable for his own biography, however if you wish to expand the article to include a staff section with a few lines about Howell and the other staff members, you could use references from Cnet. - Optigan13 02:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * At this point you might want to take a break from editing for the night, sleep on this, then come back and see if you want to continue arguing with IrishGuy about this. As he and I have both pointed out relevant methods to constructively improve the article, otherwise we have discussed this quite thoroughly. - Optigan13 02:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I will do that. Erier2003 02:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Can I safely assume that the San Francisco State University site would be a suitable secondary source? http://www.sfsu.edu/~news/2004/spring/81.htm or Last.fm? http://cn.last.fm/music/Ivan-I+%2526+Jason+Howell?autostart, Tcardone05 16:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that http://www.zer0gsounds.com/artists2.php?name=Raygun or even http://www.degrooves.com/NDM/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid=54 should count as secondary sources. Erier2003 16:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The San Fran article is about a student award. That has absolutely nothing to do with the article. The other links are music links which brings forth WP:MUSIC specifically: Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). Last.fm is a site where anyone can sign up and share their music. That isn't a label nor is it independent of the subject as he himself added himself. Night Drive Music has only been selling music online since 2005. Zer0gsounds is an artist community. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk  18:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The San Fran article is NOT about ANY award. It says quote: "While Howell hopes to "find a paying audio job," he's currently interning at Asphodel Records in San Francisco as a recording engineer, assisting in the development of a 16-channel surround sound system for musical performances." One album, according to Nocturnal magazine, http://www.nocturnalmagazine.net/music/charts/buzz.shtml is under Tarantic Records, which has many artists noted at http://www.tarantic.com/artists.html . It was #4 on January's list. Tarantic is ""Tarantic Records" is the joint venture of San Francisco's DJ Blackstone and recording engineer Amit Shoham. The label got its start in 1998 under the name "House of Stone Records," and was renamed "Tarantic Records" in early 1999." (http://www.tarantic.com/about.html) That's one "Important label" both AT LEAST nine years old. Through these whole discussions, Jason is well within "acceptable Wikipedians." I've seen much less on other people. Also, read: http://www.news.com/To-delete-Wikipedia-entry-or-not-to-delete/2100-1025-6149264.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e703 . Jason has been verified by more than a few people as an artist and podcast producer.tcardone05 01:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You did note where it stated: Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels. You are claiming that one might be notable. As for the San Fran article, it begins with One outstanding student from each academic college, the Liberal Studies/Special Majors and the Division of Graduate Studies will be honored at SFSU's 103rd Commencement Saturday, May 29. and then profiles a bunch of students...one of which is your man. That is about a student award. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 01:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That is why the articles were written, but the actual bio on Jason is all fact, be it for an award or not. Also, CNET could be counted as a major outlet for audio/visual work, seeing as the CNET TV site (purely for video) is 18,756th most visited website according to Alexa. Amyways: Album 2: http://www.3beatdigital.com/artists/ivan-i+%26+jason+howell/184827.htm Album 3: http://www.3beatdigital.com/products/gabriel+black/resolutions/b-side+dub+a.k.a+ivan-i+&+jason+howell/tarantic+records/219550 (" Mix: B-SIDE DUB A.K.A IVAN-I & JASON HOWELL" tcardone05
 * Also, according to that DeGrooves site, he's released albums under Infamous Light (Circa 2004 http://www.infamouslightrecordings.com/about.html ) and Jah-Love (Circa 1999 http://www.jah-love.com/artists.html ) as well as Tarantic and Zer0 G.Tcardone05 02:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Cnet is not independent of the subject. The other two labels aren't major independent labels. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 06:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * But he has released THREE albums on Tarantic, a more important Indie label, as stated on the previous reply: Blessed Dub, Resolutions, and Bar Groove. Tcardone05 22:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Plymouth
Hello. I've noticed you at the fringes of the Drake Circus Shopping Centre silliness, in which one editor with a series of throwaway user IDs (at least one of which you terminated) and IP numbers -- or conceivably a number of editors with near-identical obsessions and propensity to moan, vandalize and make spelling mistakes -- has been doing his best to waste the time of WebHamster and a few other people. I'll be rather busy for the next few days; if you could keep this temporarily stable article and thus ever more prolix talk page on your watchlist, it would be much appreciated. Please don't bother to reply; but if you really want to reply, reply here. -- Hoary 12:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem. I will try to keep an eye on things. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 17:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Star Gate
Hello Irishguy,

We own the copyright for Stage Gate(R) and would like to know how to put relevant content up on Wiki without it be considered as blatant advertising or copywrite infringement.

I would TRULY be grateful HOW we can do this without upsetting you folks at Wiki.

Sbechar 18:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC) Sunil Bechar


 * How does it meet WP:NOTE? Wikipedia is not a venue for advertising. Please read the conflict of interest guidelines. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 20:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Diliberto
I've made more edits to the article about Diliberto's show than he has, and I can't see anything there which anything there is not fully compliant with WP NPOV general content policies - either before or after my edits. Diliberto is an important US music critic working in the non-profit public radio sector. We should value his input, not attack him and try to drive him away. COI is intended to stop blatant POV promotion, not as a tool to prevent people with specialised knowledge writing about subjects of interest to them. The links to the interviews that Diliberto added (approximately half a dozen of them), furthermore, are not "spam", but important, non-commercial, public third party resources. All that was required was to refactor the descriptions. --Gene_poole 21:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Mass additions of links to a website he is the host of...is...well...spamming. It is entirely irrelevant whether or not the person is an important critic or a bored teenager promoting his website. It is the same end result - spam. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Take a chill pill start complying with the actual policy - rather than some weird interpretation of it. There is no "mass addition" of anything - and certainly no "spam". In any case, I'm not Diliberto, and I'mm restoring it, so your argument is moot. --Gene_poole 21:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * When you are done reading WP:CIV (which you clearly need to) please read WP:SPAM and note that you couldn't be more incorrect. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Spam is not "anything uploaded by someone I think has a COI". It's not a matter of who uploads it. Spam is defined by its content. If you don't understand what that means you shouldn't be editing WP. --Gene_poole 21:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Mass additions of the same link/website is the very definition of spamming. How do you not understand this? <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * There is no "mass addition of the same link", no advertising, no commercial benefit and thus, no "spam". What part of this do you not understand? Either start supporting your comments with facts or actual policy, or stop wasting my time. These are important links to important, free, reliable third party sources not available anywhere else. If you want to call them "spam:" that's entirely up to you - however the deletion of valid content from WP is most certainly vandalism, and will be reported as such, should it recur. --Gene_poole 21:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Report whatever you want. You are reverted valid edit simply because you like the guy who was spamming. All the links added were to the same website. They were added in multiple article by a person with a serious conflict of interest. In what world is that not spamming? <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:34, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Your argument is both specious and speculative. I restored the links because they are an important reliable third party resource not available anywhere else. If you can find alternatives, please do so. Thanks for the illuminating chat. --Gene_poole 21:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It is no wonder you have so many blocks for incivility and edit warring. My argument is within policy, your is based on personal opinion. Therein lies the difference. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 21:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

KACE, KACE (company), KACE Networks, etc.
Judging by Dhawley's note on my talk page, he's satisfied with my explanation. (I fear the now-banned Kageuser would only be satisfied if his favored company took over KAGE entirely, maybe with a token hatnote.) -- Orange Mike 22:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Kaceuser is Dhawley . <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll assume he's acting in good faith now, until and unless he proves otherwise. Thanks, fellow Irishman! -- Orange Mike 22:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Shall we ponder how a user—not an employee—of KACE would now have the same name as the person who is Sr. Product Marketing Manager, KACE. DMacks 22:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Good catch. I asked on his talk page. <b style="color:green;">IrishGuy</b> <sup style="color:blue;">talk 22:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)