User talk:IronGargoyle/Archive 12

elliott school
i am the one who uploaded those photos. i may take them down as i wish. better ones will be uploaded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by

70.44.58.168 (talk) 19:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are in fact the creator of the images (and there is no reason to believe that is the case), they are released as a free license, which means you no longer can control how the images are used. Please also read WP:OWN. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:49, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

hi, these images no longer meet the terms of use for wikipedia. they need to be taken down. i no longer wish for my images to be displayed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.58.168 (talk • contribs)

Break all rules rule
You can brake any rule to make the encyclopaedia better, read the rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.222.143 (talk) 02:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Your vandalism doesn't make the encyclopedia better. Nice try though. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! IronGargoyle (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, i am create my page user. It did not want create other page.

Sorry, Victor Master (talk) 18:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. I thought that might be what you were trying to do. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 00:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Changes to "Maya art"
Hallo Gargoyle, I have been doing a lot of work on "Maya art" and now found that someone had been needlessly removing and replacing illustrations, and adding text without references or explanations. So, I tried to return to the article in its original state. I also intended to explain why I don't think the changes were for the better. Then you interfered, obviously with good reason. So, tell me, what is the course I should now take?77.162.130.139 (talk) 18:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You could try starting a discussion at one of the associated Wikiprojects. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 00:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Using your expertise for Newbies
So I have received your warnings and they are greatly appreciated as I want to know when I do noob things. Is there a newbie guide you can refer people who are new to Wikipedia to?

Thanks!

Nevermind I just found the Adoptee area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Playphonecs (talk • contribs) 03:10, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:RIB
Hey there, IG! I saw you made and added a ribbon at WP:RIB. As a Ribbon enthusiast myself, I'm wondering if you'd be able to make a couple of Ribbons for me, just two or three, to help me get the Placeholders off my Userpage. I love the idea, I just have no image editing skill to be able to, y'know, do anything. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 12:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What I did wasn't very complicated. I just copy-pasted color blocks from preexisting ribbons onto a solid color ribbon as background and made sure that the lines in the "fabric" matched up. This led to slight problems with the shadowing at the bottom, so it's not ideal. You can only see this easily at high resolution though, and it still looks better than trying to enlarge one of the small ribbons. I think there is an image-editing technique that some of the more prolific ribbon creators utilize (this ribbon was my first). I might suggest asking one of them if you want to be more creative in your ribbon design. What barnstars do you want to ribbonize? Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 13:36, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I need File:Vandal award ribbon bar.png turned into a Shadowed Version and some design (and no, I don't particularly care) for The WikiProject Barnstar (or it's alt). A ribbon appropriate for File:Wiknic barnstar.svg would also be nice, but as a PUA, I can live without it. Achowat (talk) 14:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I made a ribbon equivalent for the Vandal Whacking Stick: File:Vandal Whacking Stick Ribbon.png. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 23:29, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I RFPP'ed Ezhavathy
I put it up for protection here: Requests_for_page_protection MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2012 July 10
Hi IronGargoyle. It's nice to see you back closing DRVs after a hiatus for a few years. Your excellent closes of difficult DRVs have been missing for far too long. Best, Cunard (talk) 05:46, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad to know they were appreciated, and it's good to be back here on a more regular basis. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 18:23, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Would you be comfortable keeping an eye on discussions at Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure and Move review, two newly created processes? Your insightful closes would be helpful there as well. Cunard (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just belatedly chiming in on this to say that I feel exactly as Cunard does. All the best— S Marshall  T/C 22:10, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I hesitate to commit myself to anything, but I'll try to check on them from time to time. And thank you again, your confidence means a lot to me. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 22:50, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

2006 MLS Supplemental Draft
I changed Chris Hamberger to Chris Hamburger because that is actually how his name is spelled according to all other webpages I have seen online (for instance, his Drake University profile: http://www.godrakebulldogs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=71192&SPID=8125&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=15700&ATCLID=865733&Q_SEASON=2005). I don't know why it reverted. . . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.118.15.130 (talk) 20:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There was a vandal putting references to "Hamburgers" in inappropriate locations. I misidentified your edit as one of those. Sorry about that. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 20:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

TOFOP deletion review
Hi!

Thanks for the userfication of the TOFOP page, it'll be fun to be able to work on it! I'm pretty new to this whole wiki thing though, so I have no idea why the request for deletion was denied... You said "The article title in question is not protected, and the DRV in question is not addressing a CSD G4 action.", but I have no idea what that means. Can you please tell me why it was denied, and what exactly it is I need to do to get the page back online? I'm not at all complaining about your decision, I'm just new, and confused...

Thanks!

Oscar Tiggyspawn93 (talk) 22:05, 23 July 2012 (UTC)tiggyspawn93


 * Nothing was denied. What the closure basically means is that you are free to move the article from your userspace back to TOFOP once you have improved it with the references that you have provided. I moved it into your userspace so you can take your time to improve the article, and don't have to worry about another editor quickly nominating it for deletion again while you edit it. Once you make an improved draft of the article, it might be helpful to ask someone at the Help desk or Teahouse to look it over before moving it from User:Tiggyspawn93/TOFOP to TOFOP. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 03:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Trevor Nelson
Thanks for battling against the disruptive editing at Trevor Nelson. Now semi-protected and one block handed out. Cheers. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

You're on fire!
You beat me reverting Polymer, twice in a row. :thumbsup: :) Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 03:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

European Mantis
Hello! You wrote rv attempt at copy-paste move when you moved stuff about Mantis religiosa to the page European mantis. Is it alright to move pages by copying all the information and then putting it in another page? Common names are supposed to be capitalized but I guess people do not care much about that. I like it better when the latin name is the title of the page than when it is the common name. Was it not alright for me to put those pictures there? If it is not alright to write about this here then please email me at Baptist.Walter@yahoo.com about this. :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy1892 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the title of this page should ultimately be. The page WP:COMMONNAME may be of some guidance for you in this regard. In any case, you should really discuss issues like this on the talk page of the article first. If you get consensus for the change, the page should be moved with the Special:MovePage function. Copy-pasting is not acceptable because it breaks the chain of attribution that is needed for Wikipedia's free licensing. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 00:50, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks I will try to figure it out. Happy1892 (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Happy1892Happy1892 (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Attempts to vandalize Thomas_Aquinas?
User 71.237.133.57 keeps deleting section "Criticism" in Thomas Aquinas because this user thinks that Bertrand Russell misunderstood Aquinas' philosophy. I believe that in XXI century, the article on Aquinas' must have a section of criticism otherwise the article is very biased. I undid the deletion. Please advise as an experienced editor (I am a relatively new to wikipedia). Denysbondar (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I really don't know enough about the topic to comment here. Discussing it on the talk page would probably be a good idea though. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 14:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Management and Training Corporation
They are at it again. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 03:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've put it on my watchlist. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 14:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bankersmith, Texas
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Kelsey Titmarsh
Hi! Thanks for the initial review, I've made revisions now. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Would you mind popping over and giving the article a thumbs up, or suggest further changes? Thanks! --  Zanimum (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Editing
IronGargoyle, What was I doing that made disruptive edits? I was just fixing the article that needed to be fixed. (67.171.195.24 (talk) 03:21, 3 August 2012 (UTC))
 * You first removed some vandalism and then you reverted and replaced the vandalism on the page. I think it was probably an honest mistake. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 03:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay this seems all clear to me now, thanks. (67.171.195.24 (talk) 05:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC))

DYK nomination of High Roller (Stratosphere)
Hello! Your submission of High Roller (Stratosphere) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Froggerlaura ribbit  21:44, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

DRV
We are trialing a DRV clerking bot right now (Bots/Requests for approval/AnomieBOT 66), so it'd be helpful if you don't remove the headers after you close a DRV so that the bot can do it :) T. Canens (talk) 03:36, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Getting replaced by a robot. Duly noted. :) IronGargoyle (talk) 14:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2012 July 25
Can you use  to break long rationale into paragraphs? Using it is better than pressing "Enter" key. --George Ho (talk) 05:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. IronGargoyle (talk) 14:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Closing DRVs too soon
Hi IronGargoyle, I generally find myself in agreement with your closures, however you are closing things too early. From the DRV page "A nominated page should remain on deletion review for at least seven days." The closure of Liam McEwan's DRV in particular is problematic as I could easily see that one going a different way given the 7 days. But I'll suggest you undo any closure that was less than the full 7 days... Thanks, Hobit (talk) 00:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with this close. It was closed prematurely. ( I was still thinking about it.) WP:SNOW doesn’t apply, in fact I don’t even see a strong consensus. I was actually leaning towards “List at AfD”, as questions of notability are questions for AfD, not DRV, and this subject has never been subject to a formal deletion discussion. The purpose of speedy deletions is to avoid wasting time on uncontestable deletion discussions. The multiple recreations demonstrate that this deletion discussion would be contestable. For future editors, an AfD on record is a better reference and warning than a speedy deletion log. In general contested speedies, such as A7, (not G9, G10, G12, F7 or F9) should be speedy listed at XfD. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Deletion_review/Log/2012_August_3
 * Ugh... you're both completely right that it was premature (I'm not going to rehash the close as I've reverted both of them). I was looking at the time stamp and not the date. I just assumed it was the right date because it had moved into the last space before the "recent discussions" header. I didn't notice that there were days missing in the log. I blame a lack of sleep and changing time zones. Sorry, IronGargoyle (talk) 05:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Easy mistake to make. Thank you.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thank you. I wasn't trying to make some grand judgment of Solomon—just close a godawful DRV in the fairest way possible while following policy. IronGargoyle (talk) 13:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for High Roller (Stratosphere)
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Rev Sr Rani Maria
I DO ENSURE THAT MY ARTICLE ON "SR RANI MARIA" IS MOST VALID AND SHE IS A "SERVANT OF GOD" CANONISED BY CATHOLIC CHURCH AND HER LIFE IS A MORAL GUIDE TO EVERYONE.SHE MAY BE BEATIFIED VERY SOON AS BLESSED SR RANI MARIA,SHE IS VERY POPULAR AMONG INDIAN CATHOLICS.I DONT KNOW WHY YOU TAGGED HER NOT POPULAR OR MY ARTICLE IS NOT CORRECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT UNDER A7.I REQUEST YOU TO GIVE QUICK REPLY AND A QUICK RESTORATION OF MY ARTICLE.PLZ HELP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Payansarun (talk • contribs)
 * I deleted the article solely because you blanked it. Blanking by an article's creator is one of the criteria for speedy deletion. It is assumed that editors who blank their own articles want them to be deleted. That being said, an earlier the draft of the article was speedily deleted by another administrator as because it did not assert importance and because it was a copyright violation (both of which are also criteria for speedy deletion). Because of this, I will not restore the article. Please review Your first article thoroughly, as well as the important policies of verifiability and notability before you create any more articles on this or other topics. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 23:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

You have been reported...for some reason.
Just thought you should be aware of the conversation(s) going on at User talk:Jimbo Wales. AutomaticStrikeout 23:35, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice, but the situation seems to have resolved itself in the way I suspected it would from the start. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 01:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Protection Kudos
I just wanted to applaud your extremely amusing and very attentive work on the immediate semi-protection on Tim Pawlenty article before the TV segment had even finished airing. He's a rare case where viewing could probably be considered part of your dutiful Wikipedia volunteer work. So... win-win? This might be the first time a "Colbert edit" was prevented from reaching an article in the first place. Kudos! ♪ Tstorm(talk) 03:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * You may want to extend that protection a few more hours. Colbert re-broadcasts three more times until 7:25 PM tomorrow. Vttor (talk) 03:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've updated the protection. Thanks for both the notes. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 04:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I noticed the protection seems to end before the re-runs finish up. Especially if that protection end was EST and not PST.  Remember that especially during Olympics people are watching their regular shows (including late: night) either during a re-run, online, or they use a dvr or on demand (comedy central makes the daily show and colbert report available almost immediately and for at least a week).  Just an FYI.  174.254.49.194 (talk) 07:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ignore all that...I apparently don't know what date it is. 174.254.49.194 (talk) 12:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey IronGargoyle, this is Morgan Little at the Los Angeles Times - I'm working on a piece about the whole VP/Colbert/Wikipedia series of events, and was curious to see if you'd be willing to offer an insider's perspective into the process of locking down pages, responding to calls like Colbert's to actively edit pages or efforts by folks with less-then-impartial intentions to change pages etc. Feel free to email me back at morgan.little@latimes.com if you're interested. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.192.13.1 (talk) 22:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

A Query from a Canadian Reporter
My name is Debra Black and I'm a reporter with the Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper. I was directed by the media folks to send you a message to see if you could comment about the protection of Tim Pawlenty's Wikipedia page after Stephen Colbert's broadcast urging viewers to edit it, following a news story that look at a theory that an upswing in edits on Sarah Palin and Joe Biden's Wikipedia pages proceeded the announcement that they would be vice-presidential candidates. I was wondering if you can comment on why you decided to protect the page and only allow auto-confirmed users on it. And what role Colbert's broadcast had in making that decision. You can reach me at dzblack@thestar.ca or 416-869-4850. Thanks in advance. Debra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.206.151.130 (talk) 18:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Concerning the confusion between Generation Y & "Generation Z."
There is a lot of confusion it seems between Generation Y and "Millennials." Millenials are those who have grown up in front of a phone or a computer screen & prefer that as the chosen method of communication. This generation starts with those born roughly 17 years ago in 1995. The cultural difference between "Y" from the early to mid 80s is DRASTICALLY different from that of those born within 5 years of affordable satellite tv, the removal of antena tv, the downfall of dial-up, and the upspring of Apple. You should talk to & coordinate with the writers of the pages for Generation Z & the "Millennial" pages to come up with a more solid difference between Y & Millenials, and culturally, that division is 1995. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.243.38.4 (talk) 02:58, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Removed content from Callanecc
I was just testing something.Receptie123 (talk) 17:40, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's probably better to test in your userspace as opposed to someone else's. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 17:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I couldn`t,it was with templates on his userpage;Receptie123 (talk) 12:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Charlie Adam
How is it not constructive? It is informing readers of a high profile number of incidents during his career and helps any reader gain a better understanding of things in Adam's life other than mundane statistics and facts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.76.72.1 (talk • contribs)
 * Negative material should not be added to biographies of living persons unless that material is cited in reliable sources. Also, you added a number of example images to the article in question. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 18:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Well it happened, I can assure you that, but I'm not going to sit here and write it all out again plus add references in order to satisfy the, self-appointed, gods of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.76.72.1 (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

User "Proffessor Editor"
User_talk:Proffessor_Editor Clearly a vandalism only account that I thought someone should notice, although you probably do because he just vandalized your talk. Bluefist  talk 03:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems to have been indef-blocked by another admin. IronGargoyle (talk) 11:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

And thank you for fixing my Talk page, I appreciate it! --Mr. Vernon (talk) 03:20, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. IronGargoyle (talk) 11:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Possible repeated spamming by IP user 12.68.41.130
Hello there. I see you have warned the user twice in the recent past. I am not sure if this would qualify, but it seems a bit suspicious to reference a YouTube video mention in the reference section. Zepppep (talk) 11:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not the best sourcing. It's definitely a grey area because it seems pretty likely that the editor has a conflict of interest with the Positive Coaching Alliance. It looks like they are at least trying to improve and use the link to support information in the article though, as opposed to just adding the link without any context as they did when I warned them. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 11:33, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Would definitely agree it seems to fall in a grey area and will defer to your experienced opinion. I am thinking of removing everything after the first comma in the typical sentence this user posts, namely because it seems soapboxy and because the alliance is linkable: "____ is also currently a member of the National Advisory Board for Positive Coaching Alliance, a national non-profit organization committed to providing student-athletes with a positive, character-building youth sports experience." Any thoughts? Zepppep (talk) 12:10, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I took a closer look at the user's edits and it seems pretty clear that they are a single purpose account only here to promote their organization. Given the number of supposed advisory board members and the lack of independent sources, I've reverted all the links as spam. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 21:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So the grey is now black and white. Nice job. We all like seeing a little less spam around here...Zepppep (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Varkala
Hello IronGargoyle. Please note that the black sand of the Varkala beach contains Thorium-oxide which is a radioactive substance and harmful if digested or inhaled. Thorium and its isotopes can be found all over Kerala. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium http://www.explorra.com/destinations/kerala_20458

I ve been there (Kerala, Varkala) three times and have seen that and i noticed that nobody knows about these facts. Thank you for saving people from harm by bringing out a note in your article. Greetings from Germany — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.138.204.208 (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see that you added a reference now. I added the information back to the page and moved your reference so that it was in the correct location. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 15:47, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Freeboard (skateboard)
Incredible, you'd use tweet.. to cancel other's links promptly: you have nothing to do? we are working here, I'd suggest you another hobby — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.42.225.85 (talk) 15:54, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "tweet", but those links were clearly spam. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 15:59, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Samia Yusuf Omar
Hi IronGargoyle the reason why i edited for Samia Yusuf Omar is that she drowned on Mediterranean sea and it was mention by Somali Olympic heads in London and I provide the video but you wouldnt understand because they are speaking in Somali. But I was having trouble how to source things. But i guess that was the difficult for me to source, since i am new to the wikipedia section. thanks for your understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qaranimo (talk • contribs) 16:31, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The reason I reverted it is because the death was cited to a youtube video. Youtube is not considered to be a reliable source for important information such as that. Wikipedia requires that reliable sources be used, and this is particularly true when dealing with biographies. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 16:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Big One, Magnum, Desperado
Please stop changing these pages. Big One (213 feet) stands taller than Desperado (209 feet) and Desperado opened three months after Big one. The correct succession box for tallest complete circuit is Magnum -> Big One -> Fujiyama. Desperado does not belong here. See: http://www.rcdb.com/103.htm and http://www.rcdb.com/775.htmJlACEer (talk) 18:23, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I must have misread something. Sorry. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I was hoping not to have to make a big deal out of this. There has been a lot of misinformation posted to the Big One article over the years.JlACEer (talk) 19:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for 2012 Kermadec Islands eruption and pumice raft
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Caritas Ticino
Hi, I made the changes you requested, sources are now verifiable, I'm on the right track? Can I move out the banner about the topic? Or maybe you can? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.55.242.76 (talk) 07:12, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I really am not entirely sure what you are talking about. I just removed a misformatted external link. I don't recall requesting you to do anything on that page. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 22:11, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, thanks for that. Really much appreciated. I did notice the mistake you made on my talk page but this is for doing it anyway. :) MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. At least I got the block on the user making legal threats right. Best, IronGargoyle (talk)
 * I think you should keep an eye on this article. Max-A-Million MadGuy7023 (talk) 22:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Pytheas edit
I wasn't testing anything; I made a change in earnest to the Pytheas article where I argued against equating Mictis, Ictis and Corbulo, and gave reasons. I disturbed the original text very minimally. One problem that kept coming up, which I don't understand, is that somehow my editing caused the insertion of  ...  into the text at seemingly random intervals. This was very annoying and I tried to delete all occurrences, but it kept popping up in the damnedest places. I guess you may have to correct it if this is "your" article. Best wishes, Rainouart — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.126.74.68 (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Are/were you trying to edit from a mobile phone? That strikes me as the most likely explanation. I've never seen anything like that before though. I saw the bizarre html code show up in a list of recent changes to Wikipedia and assumed you were testing something out. My suggestion would be try again on a different computer. When you do, if you could add a more precise citation that would be helpful. If you just give your own opinion, it's considered to be original research, which isn't allowed. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 22:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Emerald ash borer
Opps, I'm a little red-faced! I saw what looked like a nonsense word that included a poor spelling of "penis" by an anon and had a knee jerk reaction. I should be more careful, I guess. Gandydancer (talk) 00:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha... no worries. I did a double-take when I saw it come up under recent changes too. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 01:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Twin Peaks (restaurant chain)
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Greetings... and proposed deletion
Greetings IronGargoyle. Have just received your note informing me of the proposed deletion of Joe Evans (musician). However, contrary to the instructions therein regarding removal of the notice, I find no such notice to remove. Is there a mistake here or has the procedure changed without the wording of the template being updated? Curious regards, --Technopat (talk) 19:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Somebody else removed the notice, then it was speedily deleted because later versions were a copyright violation, then the current version was restored. I haven't decided yet if I am going to take it to AfD or not. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:18, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Are we talking 'bout the same article? I see no mention in the revision history of any of the above. Confused regards, --Technopat (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That's because the revision with the prod was deleted by someone else. The article was restored without the copyright violating edits. Those edits not restored included the prod notice. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Slightly clearer. So where do we go from here? Do I still have to explain why I consider the guy to be notable on the article's talk page to prevent the proposed deletion or have the doubts been resolved? Regards, --Technopat (talk) 19:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It would help if there were some more reliable sources on his page that help establish his notability. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, thanks. I'll see what I can come up with. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 19:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Bit better? --Technopat (talk) 14:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Nice work. IronGargoyle (talk) 16:33, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 08:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Amazing Cooking Kids (season 3)
This is a hoax. All of the sources in the article are for the second season version. The official website has not been updated in a year and I even Googled some of the names in the article and they all point back to Wikipedia. This page should not have been kept in CSD for 2 days.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 19:37, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You're probably right that it is a hoax, but it certainly doesn't meet the criteria for WP:CSD. I won't remove the tag you re-added, but please consider that if it was in CSD for 2 days, it might have been because no one else was willing to bite on your logic that this meets G3. Why not just take it to AfD with the rationale you posted on my talk page? Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:51, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not going to waste a week at AFD when it should be taken care of post haste. It is a hoax, plain and simple, and made to look like a legitimate article. This is a textbook example of WP:CSD.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 09:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

SubRip
Thanks - I put the "clouds" example in a long time ago to stop an apparently ethnically charged subtitles revert war. Who's gonna fight about clouds, I thought. --Lexein (talk) 06:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I understand about 0.1% of that article, but it was pretty clear the wall of programming text that got added didn't belong. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 16:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, thx for that instant review! We should chat on IRC at some point so I can improve the article for understandability in realtime. --Lexein (talk) 12:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I don't get on IRC much at all. That said, I was just being glib about my own lack of knowledge in that area. I think the article is probably fine. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 12:46, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Circumcision
Please see the circumcision talk page for discussion relating to the sentence you restored. 108.39.200.50 (talk) 01:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not interested in getting involved in this dispute. I reverted to a wording that I found to be more descriptive and accurate. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 03:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

What basis is there for your accusation on my talk page
i added an external link, according to the external-link guidelines. What was your problem with that? 216.64.190.250 (talk) 02:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The fact that it doesn't meet the guidelines. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:24, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

But it actually does meet the guidelines. What specific in the guidelines supports your contention? 64.134.231.29 (talk) 15:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:ELNO 3, 8, 11 and most importantly WP:POINT. IronGargoyle (talk) 17:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help
Thanks for removing the vandalism from my talk page. ... disco spinster   talk  03:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. IronGargoyle (talk) 17:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Superbad changes
I couldn't find a source to specifically state my change, but it is simply a fact. It was Jonah Hill's first lead role, Emma Stone's first major role, Mintz-Plasse first role, and the movie launched them all into instant stardom. No, there's no source I can cite, but it's still an important fact about the movie, just as the phrase "The film was one of a string of hit films produced by Judd Apatow" which is also not cited (and true) nevertheless you left it. You can put my phrase back and leave a "citation needed" notice, but removing it completely is completely uncalled for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.58.204 (talk) 06:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Just saying that other original research still exists in an article is not an excuse not to remove some of it that has recently been added. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 17:32, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Mouse Morris
Was wondering could you have another look at this nomination when you get a chance Finnegas (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks much improved. I see it's been promoted already. Nice work. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

My apologies
I would like to personally apologise to you for my immature actions, but I would like to refer you to User:Mikeymike2001's vandalism of my contributions to the WWE '13 page [|here], [|here] & [|here]. I will admit my actions were uncalled for and I promise that it will not happen again. Thank you. Kane (talk) 18:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That doesn't look like vandalism. It looks like a legitimate content dispute. I suggest discussing the issue on the talk page. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 18:50, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Your latest edit!
You have reverted an edit and right after that reverted the revert in Paoli Dam article. Sorry, I can not understand this properly. Your revert was correct. See Talk:Paoli_Dam -- Tito Dutta  ✉  19:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * While there may be a dispute, and the information may or not be appropriate (I'm not going to weigh in on that), I had accidentally hit the wrong button and reverted that edit as vandalism. That wasn't correct on my part. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 19:56, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That wasn't correct on my part –I disagree! You were correct! See this. I have recovered your revert (most probably you have noticed)! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  20:22, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eldad Tarmu
— Northamerica1000(talk) 23:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

List of cellists
I have concerns about your recent edits. Please see my comments at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_cellists#Removal_of_names_without_appropriate_consensus Tetsuo (talk) 06:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC) Tetsuo (talk) 06:59, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of banjo bands (worldwide)
Hi Iron, I've just seen your note about deleting the list I created quite some time ago. Would you mind putting it back while we discuss your concerns? Apparently you have no problem with the existence of a list of cellists so I am unsure as to your personal opposition to a list a banjo bands. Regards, --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 16:52, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * p.s., I, like you, are busy in the real world. In fact I'm producing an all banjo jazz festival this weekend, Sept 8th & 9th, 2012, so please have patience with my responses as well. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 16:55, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't have any personal opposition to lists of banjo bands, as long as there are notable banjo bands to include in that list. I undeleted the page and moved it to User:Scalhotrod/List of banjo bands (worldwide). This list should not include non-notable bands, and if you move it back to mainspace I will list it at AfD unless there are more bluelinks on the list. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 15:10, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Iron, Thank you for retrieving it, I appreciate that. With regard to your concerns, within the banjo, banjo music, and jazz communities, all of these bands are notable. The fact that most of them do not have an associated WP article is unfortunate, but does not necessarily indicate that they are not notable to those respective communities. I am one of those that believes that "notability" on Wikipedia is a bit of a moving target and utterly relative. What is critical and vital to one is irrelevant to another, its just the way that the world works and Wikipedia should reflect that.

With regard to your demand (and I refer to it as such because of your comment to "AfD unless there are more bluelinks on the list), how many is enough? Is it a flat number or certain portion or percentage? Please understand, I'm not trying to obtuse or patronizing, but the list was seemingly just fine until your discovery of it so I am trying to better understand your criteria for making it acceptable to you. Best regards, Chris --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 19:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Only one of the entries actually has its own article (Peninsula Banjo Band). One notable entry is not a list. It may be that the other bands are notable, but there is no proof (i.e., they are not verifiable). Proof of notability requires reliable and independent sources. None of the sources in the article are independent; they just link back to band websites. I don't think there is a set number that the list needs, but there really should be more than a tiny handful of verifiable, notable bands to justify a list on Wikipedia. At the very least, the entries retained in the list should have reliable, independent sources (even if some of the entries don't have articles yet themselves). Everything else should be removed. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 20:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Digital Treak
You recently deleted this page, but someone created it again... MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:17, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And then I recently deleted it again. :) IronGargoyle (talk) 21:19, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And he just created the talk page of it. He must need blocking. MadGuy7023 (talk) 21:27, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Digital Treak
Hello IronGargoyle,

We recently made a page which you deleted named Digital Treak.

Please don't delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djamogh (talk • contribs) 21:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please review Wikipedia's policy on notability, conflicts of interest and our criteria for speedy deletion. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 21:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay but tell me what changes you want in it we will do it. Help us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djamogh (talk • contribs) 21:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't be writing the page for your own organization to begin with. Please see Wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 21:45, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jumbo Jet (Six Flags Great Adventure) and Jumbo Jet (Morey's Piers)
Hello! Your submission of Jumbo Jet (Six Flags Great Adventure) and Jumbo Jet (Morey's Piers) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I was disappointed by your bad faith assumption at DYK that I had acted in pursuit of a conflict, 5 years after I an event in which I had forgotten your involvement. But since you don't trust my review, I'm quite happy for the article to be reviewed by another editor who doesn't arouse your suspicions.
 * When I looked again our 2007 disagreement over notability tagging, I saw that the main discussion on your talk page was followed by a further discussion on Cirith Ungol. So I went to Talk:Cirith Ungol to read the discussion, and then flicked over to the article Cirith Ungol to see what state it was in now. I was redirected to Minor places in Middle-earth, and it turned out that the merger had been decided at AFD in November 2010. I had not participated in that AFD.
 * So it seems that five years on, our views on notability are no closer. But it is interesting to see that when Cirith Ungol finally came up for a substantive discussion, it was merged into a list of sub-topics of the parent topic. A similar approach was adopted for many other Middle Earth articles, and that might be a good solution for these short articles on roller-coasters which don't quite meet notability requirements. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:55, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

editor or censor
If you remove something for NPOV, try to write something better to take its place. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.184.73.52 (talk) 19:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Can you be more specific? Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 20:25, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Mujeeb Zafar Anwar Hameedi
Hi IronGargoyle, Sorry I prodded an older version of the page, so didn't see tags you already had added. Please feel free to remove if you find the PROD inappropriate. Thanks -- S M S  Talk 20:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally things aren't re-prodded, otherwise I would have prodded it myself. I don't see why this can't be an example of WP:IAR though. The page is so godawfully written that it would take far more effort to sort out if it's even worthwhile to fix than it would to just delete it and hope another writer comes along if the subject is actually notable. AfD would be another option, but there would eventually be someone arguing that stuff shouldn't be deleted because its badly written. Well, when something is this badly written, I kinda think it should. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

You have broken Wikipedia rules and I will report you
You do realise that you have deleted the Fantastic Shabalanga page while the page was still in the middle if an articles for deletion discussion? See this please.

Also, under the reasons you have to delete it, you wrote "Speedy deleted, vandalism" even though the page was not under a speedy deletion template and there was no evidence that there was any vandalism there. No one complained of vandalism, not even any admins. They just complained of notability, even though I provided an external link. --Kijoorete-Bahnhof (talk) 00:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There was a speedy deletion template, the page was a hoax, and that's about all I have to say about that. If you continue to make inappropriate pages, it is likely you will be blocked from editing. IronGargoyle (talk) 01:13, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

GTA2 official download link
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Auto_2&diff=prev&oldid=509627092 I think official download link may present in the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.112.124.130 (talk) 18:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think a download link is covered under WP:ELOFFICIAL. The software developer has already been linked. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 03:47, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. By the way, adding magnet-links is allowed or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.146.174.199 (talk) 18:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure what a magnet link is. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jumbo Jet (Six Flags Great Adventure)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:02, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jumbo Jet (Morey's Piers)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jupiter (roller coaster)
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

centipede
hi, i added something as you may remember this: (Giant tropical centipedes share their territories with tarantulas. Despite its impressive length, it’s a nimble navigator, and some can be highly venomous. As quick as lightning, just like the tarantula it’s killing, the centipede has two curved hollow fangs which inject paralyzing venom. Even tarantulas aren’t immune from an ambush. This centipede is a predator…)

i can not figure out how to make a correct citation please help. --Unicorn helper (talk) 00:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)Unicorn helper--Unicorn helper (talk) 00:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I would suggest reviewing Wikipedia's guidelines for citing sources. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 00:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)