User talk:IronWolve

Template removed to save space, I can read the help pages.
 * Melchoir 08:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * IronWolve 02:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Twyana Davis
Twyana Davis has been proposed for deletion.
 * Snipped guidelines, to save space on my wikipage.

NickelShoe (Talk) 03:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Read the guidelines for biographies, it does fit under the Wikipedia guidelines, famous author and news item. IronWolve 02:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering the nature of the crime, I though a sourcing from a video only was inadequate, and deleted as BLP. But if you want to try a fully sourced article, and take it to DRV, I'll support a relist, but I'd have to see it first. I think to pass AfD the way things are now you will need to show coverage over a considerable period. DGG 16:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Snipped guidelines, to save space on my talk page.Realkyhick 20:02, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Notability contested, it is a one of the major mens movement, books are written on the subject, forums, you can do a quick google to see it actually is. IronWolve 02:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Copyright on MGTOW
Snipped guidelines to save space on my talk page. Sancho 21:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sancho, the page is under is released under the CREATIVE COMMONS and is allowed to be reposted in its entirety, since its from the mens rights wiki. I reposted it verbatim, as allowed and stated ON THE website.  ALSO the article was deleted before, if creative commons is not allowed here, then Who do I give a list of all the other articles to delete? EXACTLY.  The deletion needs to stop. [[User_talk:IronWolve]
 * It was deleted previously because no indication of licence was given. We had to assume that it was a copyright violation. Where is this release of the page under the Creative Commons attribution-share-alike licence indicated? Please provide the link that shows this. Thanks. Sancho 01:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * http://wiki.mensactivism.org/index.php/MGTOW_-_Men_Going_Their_Own_Way via Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5. on the page. -IronWolve
 * Thanks. I also found that "The MGTOW logos and the MGTOW Manifesto are public domain, explicitly designated so by their creators (the men of MGTOW) to be used by anyone for the purpose of promoting MGTOW. May 1, 2006" as found at the bottom of the manifesto page. Sancho 01:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll add the logo to the page IronWolve 02:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

MGTOW deleted again
The article MGTOW was deleted as a repost; see Articles for deletion/MGTOW. If you want a review of the deletion, you need to go to Deletion review. NawlinWiki 12:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There was supposed to be a 5 day hold on the delete after the copyright was provided.. People are just breaking wikipedia's own rules AGAIN. -IronWolve 15:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


 * No, they deleted it under speedy deletion criteria A7 (see WP:CSD), which happened because you didn't provide reliable third-party sources establishing notability. I tried to give you as much help as I could at the talk page. Again, you can go through deletion review if you really feel this was done inappropriately, but I agree with the deletion. Sancho 16:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thats bull, I put a hold on it and contested it. The first was copyright, then it was notable, both which I argued and was ready to supply a book that based and mentions MGTOW. There was no reason to speedy delete it while an active contest is going on. And all the comments where removed also, that smells like censorship on subject you dont agree with. - IronWolve 21:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The article didn't meet the criteria at Notability. It also fell under the criteria of speedy deletion at WP:CSD. That policy states that any administrator may delete an article that is a speedy deletion candidate if the concerns were not addressed. You didn't address them quickly enough, so the article was deleted. That isn't censorship. There are hundreds of articles deleted for exactly the same reason every day. The doesn't guarantee that the article will be kept, it's only an indication that the creator will explain how they will improve the article to cause it not to qualify for speedy deletion. The article was not improved. At the deletion review, you should bring up the book that you mention now. That might have been enough to save the article... but now you have to go through deletion review. Sancho 21:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, I dont sit on the computer 24 hours a day, thats why the 5 day rule is the guideline. Soon as I went to sleep the article was deleted. It's a sad state that wikipedia has to put up a false fight under false terms. - IronWolve 22:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The 5 day rule is for Articles for deletion. The speedy deletion was done under WP:CSD, reposts of previously deleted material and articles which do not make claims of notability for their subject matter. The "hangon" tag does not give you a bypass to keep the speedy deletion from happening, it's meant to indicate to an admin who sees the speedy deletion nomination that they should visit the article's Talk page where you would hopefully indicate why you think the subject is notable, and prove it. None of the people who advocate for this subject has yet to provide a reliable source. Corvus cornix 22:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly, an admin couldnt wait to delete the article quick enough, thus the point that the article is contested. The use of speedy delete seems to be a hammer used on anyone an admin doesnt agree with. Thats why pages like the Pit Bull is hotly contested. As for reliable sources, the reliable sources are few for mens movements, so I had to ask for something other than the major web forums and bloggers, and MRA writers. Someone mentioned a book, which I was going to state, but the article was ALREADY DELETED. ISBN 0976261316 -- 22:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:AGF. Corvus cornix 22:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, Im bad at good faith, with all the deletes it does feel like an attack. -IronWolve 22:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

A tip on Deletion review; you don't need to repost a review on every day as you did for MGTOW. It's already listed Deletion review/Log/2007 July 5 so it doesn't need to be reposted on Deletion review/Log/2007 July 6. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 00:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, noted for the future. -IronWolve 04:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Repost of Ghost Rider (motorcycle stuntman)
pfft another waste of my time, another editor who uses notable or says blog posts doesnt exist.