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Proposed deletion of Robert Ayers (disambiguation)
Hi Ironholds, I see you marked the abovementioned page for deletion (om March 17 2010). However, when I came to look at (for) the page on March 19, it seems to have already been deleted. If this was not your doing, have you any idea why I get so little time, to even do anything about your comment. If it is your doing, well, it seems like you are judge, jury and executioner. Anyway, I posted the the original disambiguation page so long ago, I can't now, for the life of me, remember what I may have added to justify the maintenance of the page.Barmispain (talk) 21:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC) talk

Black Sports Agents Association
Firstly, I don't know what you mean, when you say it reads like spam. What I do know is that every single thing that you pointed out is absolutely true and is well documented in Sports Journals/ Books, Magazines, Newsletters, ect. What is it that makes it sound like spam? Again I'm only trying to understand so please leave out the sarcasm, "everything else? You guessed it, reads like spam". Give the same courtesy you expect. If that is not possible I would ask that you direct me to someone who can. Thanks Jaybrown33 (talk) 21:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Black Sports Agents Association
Hello,

I have been having a very difficult time understanding why you are against this article. I have enlisted your advice and received none in return. it has gotten to the point where any more changes to the document would paint an untrue description of what the Black Sports Agents Association is and has accomplished. You ask that individuals be civil and polite and I have done all of those things yet seem to have gotten nowhere. I don't want to take this personal I would hope that the Black Sports Agents Association would have the same opportunity as other organizations to be present on Wikipedia. Thank you and I look forward to your response and/or specific areas of "promotional content" that you speak of. Jaybrown33 (talk) 21:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

MTV
Why did you want to delete my page.MTV voted that what i have put on the article is fine and supported.why would you want to delete it!!!!!!!!!!?????--TheDeathKingTheGodfather 04:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeathking (talk • contribs) Well can i at least put that proven information on the talk page?please?!!--TheDeathKingTheGodfather 04:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeathking (talk • contribs) Im sorry i bothered you sir.Please do not take anything i said to offense and i hope that MTV did not vomit all over you.Please do reply in any way you can and if you delete my page then that is fine because i do not need the computor or wikipedia to live and if you don't then that would be very kind. have a great day signed,--TheDeathKingTheGodfather 04:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeathking (talk • contribs) I need help--TheDeathKingTheGodfather 05:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeathking (talk • contribs)

Pages created by Lando09
Dude, check out the tags you put on the page, then come back and put the one you wanted to put on there. They all have sources, all cover the information on the page. The template you placed on the various pages does not cover what you are trying make fellow editors aware of.This deal is getting worse all the time. (talk) 12:08, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Mate, please check the tag that you placed on the five articles in question, take the time to read it thoroughly and realise that it does not belong on any of those pages. There is a tag for articles with sources, but no references, it is out there and I shall let you have fun in finding said tag. To state that a link in the external links section helps nobody is childish at best, and with the message posted in its entirety it is naive at worst, especially given the brevity of the articles.This deal is getting worse all the time. (talk) 01:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Please, take the thin slice of dignity that you still have, realise that given the statement "This article does not cite any references or sources" means exactly what is says. I know what you meant to state, unfortunately from your point of view, you placed the incorrect tag on the page. Sorry for any attempts at congeniality, and sorry for having relatives who happen to be Australian and Scottish.This deal is getting worse all the time. (talk) 12:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I can only assume that you are attempting to wind me up, attempts which I can safely say have surely failed. Once again, the tags placed by yourself on 5 pages created by myself were unwarranted, simply because they did not cover the charges brought forward by yourself. Rather than acknowledge the error and ascertain the whereabouts of the correct tag, you have entered into a discussion where the evidence is truly damning. I also apologised for any attempts to foster the spirit of being a fellow editor.This deal is getting worse all the time. (talk) 12:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Henry Grey, 3rd earl of Stamford
Why have you decided this man is non notable? Have you no sense of history? He is one in a line of the Earls descended from Lady Jane Grey who owned large estates. Furthermore now I have returned from lunch to complete the article, (after spending up to two hours writing it], it it no longer there. How you retain the loyalty of your contributors I do not know. Plucas58 (talk) 13:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Henry Grey, 3rd earl of Stamford
I would say in his defence that he did a lot more that 90% of the people who have biographys on Wikipedia for doing next to nothing like playing in a football time (a job) or singing a pop record (a job). The important issue though is that he is one of a dynasty which is best documented as a whole so that the story of the dynasty can be followed. I hope all the Wikipedia Thought Police are not anarchists Plucas58 (talk) 14:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC).

Hi
Hi. After a long time I write to you again. Since you're all into law, could you help tell me what the content in this page means: Reply, and thank you.--Theologiae (talk) 16:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Does that mean, that if the user does the infringement the fault is his, not the company's, and he is liable? Reply--Theologiae (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Henry Grey, 3rd Earl of Stamford
Whilst I consider withdrawing my support of Wikipedia I would make a few points in the interests of the debate you crave:

(i) You appear unable to distinguish between celebrity and notability. A member of the peerage in 17th century England did indeed have notability by just being there. The management of large estates and fortunes, attending parliament and having wide and manifold powers over his tenants ensured that. He was also a member of the the highest court in the land. If you continue down this route you will turn Wikipedia into an online Hello magazine.

(ii) You cannot see the value of documenting all the members of a dynasty so that the development of the family's fortunes can be tracked. Why have succession boxes if you can't progress along the succession.

(iii) The casual and inconsiderate removal of contributors well-intentioned efforts on the grounds of lack of "notability" because of a lack of celebrity does not inspire loyalty in the people who dedicate their time to what is not an easy task.

(iv) The value of Wikipedia is that it provides quick and easy access to a central source of knowledge about the lesser known members of society. Why do you seek to undermine this concept by only wanting to document the already well-known?

Plucas58 (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Good to meet you
...and I hope you'll come visit again sometime. I promise excellent weather and good food. - Dank (push to talk) 23:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Variation of Trusts Act 1958
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Ping
Please endeavour to observe the updated rules as they may apply to you. Actually, I'm not even 100% sure if you are a member, so disregard if necessary.  bahamut0013  words deeds 00:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Weasel word tags
Hi! You've recently added weasel word tags to The Devil's Brood and The Reckoning. Each article reflects language from the review referenced. A GAN reviewer asked me to create the articles and I haven't had the time to expand yet. If they're tagged, should I simply delete the material and create a re-direct for now? Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 14:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Just so you know it's not copyvio, I replied on my page. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi! Just so you know, I've managed to clean up The Devil's Brood a bit. It's still in the very early stages of being built, but perhaps you should have a look to be certain it's okay. If so, then I'll use a similar format for The Reckoning. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 03:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

ChinaRailwayENGED
Just letting you know, User is still creating unreferenced station stubs. Aiken  &#9835;  16:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks kindly; requesting a block now. Ironholds (talk) 16:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Low-cost account
Hello again, would you reconsider the notability tag on this article? I added a couple of refs. Thanks. Aiken  &#9835;  17:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Declined PROD of Kerry Film Festival
Hi Ironholds. I've removed the worst pieces of advertisement from the article. Since this eliminates the reason for your succinctly phrased PROD'ing of the article, I have declined this. Favonian (talk) 13:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Court of Chancery
In search of something to talk about with a man 60 years my elder i showed "your" article on this too Professor Baker on my iphone last week at our annual dinner. He was very impressed! He said he might add some comments to the talk page (though at this point the port arrived and he was suddenly much less interested in our conversation so I would not hold out too much hope!). Anyway thought you might like to know that your work is academically appreciated, keep up the good work! Ajbpearce (talk) 01:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

UCTA
Haven't forgotten about this. But any time I have at the moment is going to stuff that needs my attention. When I get some hours free, I'll ping you to see if you're still up for a collaboration. Best, AGK 01:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

USBGF
The USBGF is a significant and noteworthy development in the US and worldwide Backgammon communities. Not since the 70's and early 80's has there been an effort such as this made for the game in the US. Among our board members we count Karen Davis and Kit Woolsey as well as many of the top backgammon players, tournament directors and authors in the world. Please rescind your speedy deletion marking. Thank you.

Locke and Keyes (talk) 04:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

RE: Mauricio Lauzirika
"Editors who repeatedly add or restore contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced may be blocked for disruption." The information on Mauricio Lauzirika is in no way contentious, information can be found in external references. In the meantime, please be civil and don't threaten others with blocks. Sandman888 (talk) 16:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

HELP!!!!!!!
can u help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeathking (talk • contribs) 06:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC) i need 2 know how 2 make a table chart thing for my page "Show & Prove" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeathking (talk • contribs) 06:04, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Coordinator elections have opened!
Voting for the Military history WikiProject coordinator elections has opened; all users are encouraged to participate in the elections. Voting will conclude 23:59 (UTC) on 28 March 2010. This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 21:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

PayDay (lottery)
I added some refs. However I am not sure if these are done in a correct manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krj373 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

2009 Open Barletta
Official site of this tournament and ATPWorldTour.com profile aren't the sources? Nice, nice! PL Alvarez (talk). 11:20. March 20, 2010.

Do it alone. :) PL Alvarez (talk). 11:25. March 20, 2010.

Go outside, instead of doing nonsenses... 'References', 'External Links' - what's the fundamental difference?! PL Alvarez (talk). 13:20. March 21, 2010.

CIA
Hi. Can you copy-paste info from the CIA World Factbook freely? Reply--Theologiae (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from IT Milan
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Removal of Lee from River City
Hello, I appreciate your concern on this, however the character and the article are important for the information of the character and the storylines he has been involved in, within a short space of time. For viewers of River City old and new, this article explains the part Lee played in a major plot in the soap. Thank You AcidBrights (talk) 17:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

How will I be able to make this article more appropriate as the character does not have a surname or quite a lot of background information. AcidBrights (talk) 17:59, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

But, there is no articles on him, he is a new actor and character. And I'm not sure what to do. AcidBrights (talk) 18:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Is your Delete button melting from overuse?

 * You are rather industrious in tagging articles for deletion
 * (at least from an prefunctionary glance at your contributions).
 * Just imagine how comprehensive Wikipedia would be if that industiousness was
 * in adding and bettering articles.
 * Mind if you cool your Delete button for few fortnights?
 * Excessive AfD is as community damaging as vandalism and revert wars are.
 * Kind regards --Zarutian (talk) 18:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Brian Burrell
Thank you for the reminder. The page is now cited with credible sources. Kiteinthewind  Leave a message! 22:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hi. I was just wondering, if you're translating info from another language wikipedia, do you still have to attribute it? Thanks and reply--Theologiae (talk) 14:00, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Chadi Cheick Merai
Hi, I just added some references about his italian career. Do you think that we need more reliable sources? It's easy to add italian sources, is it enough? Thanks. --Andtrap (talk) 18:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

PLoS Currents: Influenza
Could you replace the unreferenced tag by citation needed ones pls so I know which implied sources aren't obvious. Narayanese (talk) 18:42, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Sock Puppetry
Since you were vocal on the WP:COI and WP:COPYRIGHT of BioSlimDisk by User:Vernonheng, I invite you to read Sockpuppet investigations/Vernonheng and possibly comment. Guy M 12:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

BioSlimDisk
Wow... that was fast. Good Job! Guy M 12:58, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Family Movement
Thank you for the feedback, I have put a Hang On tag on the speedy deletion notice as edits are being performed. The work that is being done on this entry is mainly by offline users that are from a working group of different organizations with a shared history. I am publishing their work on this entry and they are doing their best to meet the guidelines as we understand them. Many of the guidelines we are learning about through trial and error after reading about them, so apologies if we mis-understand them on first read. There is an attempt to source more materials, and more published evidence to support the entry, though our response time is a little slow as we are mostly volunteers. The entry is being sent to other potential contributors to get more references from many different organizations that have citations and evidence. Suggestions on how best to avoid deletion during this process would be much appreciated. Thanks. Stefanlorimer (talk) 18:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Click & Grow
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Feldberg (Band)
The article includes certain excepts from the bands biography. written by the band. iceland music took this information from the bands official myspace and facebook pages and used on their site. please can you restore the feldberg wiki article. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgadsdon (talk • contribs) 10:07, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Royal Society
Since you revamped that article, I guess you're our in-house expert on things concerning the Royal Society. What did "reading a paper/a letter before the Royal Society" involve? In particular I wonder about Talk:History of electromagnetism‎. Several sources claim John Ellicott made a certain proposal in 1746 (or 1741, secondary sources disagree). Going to the apparent primary source I discovered that it was a letter by an anonymous addressed to John Ellicott. But the Philosophical Transactions list it as "read March 6 1745-6". Presumably Ellicott read it? Would that have made it Ellicott's proposal by the customs of his time? At least the primary source confirms it was in 1746 (New Style; 1745 Old Style). Lupo 16:01, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. Though the letter is entitled A Letter from &mdash; to Mr. John Ellicot, F. R. S. of Weighing the Strength of Electrical Effluvia. In the text, the writer clearly addresses somebody, presumably Ellicott. But it's clear that it is a letter. Signature is given as "Ill.", which I take to mean "illegible". That makes me rather sceptical. Unless it was customary to write such letters oneself and then to pretend to have received them, but that'd be quite some understatement, even for an Englishman :-) If you want, I can send you the document. Lupo 20:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK note
Just in case you're interested to join the discussion here on the last hook in T:DYK/Q4. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 00:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Judges' Council
Well then, please add it to an appropriate organization/place category. I couldn't find any better. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:59, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Ambiguous Copyright Infringement
Can you refer me to the section of the David Alfonso you marked for speedy deletion that contained ambiguous copyright infringement? Additionally, after I fix the content in question, can you please advise on how to revive the deleted page? Thanks. AcquisitionGuru (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Wiki attrib.
Hi Ironholds. I was wondering, if you made an edit in the past copying info within wikipedia, but forgot to attribute, you usually go back to the page and do a fake edit, writing something like "attribution..., whose content was included in the past". Is that enough, or do you need to do any more attribution in order to be okay?(just tell me the minimum required, so the minimum you need to do for the attribution to be fine). Thanks, and reply--Theologiae (talk) 18:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Canvass for a Cause deletion
This article is about an emerging organization that is working in progressive activism. The article is well referenced, and retains specific important to LGBT history and rights issues. Therefore the deletion tag is not valid. The importance of this article falls in line with the importance of many other gay groups that fight for human rights issues. The organization follows simmular development paths to others such as Equality California, Marriage Equality USA, or The HRC. Each of them fights in a specific vein of political activism, and the importance of Canvass for a Cause is that they fight at the grassroots level. Although they lack the budget to have substantial marketing campaigns, the work they do is significant as indicated by the references included in the article. (talk) 18:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:DICK
Hey there; I was wondering if you could have a word with User:Wikidea about his contributions. He doesn't seem to understand the limits placed on fair use of material as quotations, as seen here, and I worry it is a copyright violation. Ironholds (talk) 23:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * How do you expect me to treat you like you're not a massive prick when you're writing with this kind of snarky, filthy tone? I've said it before, you don't know me or who I am, and it's really stupid to assume that I don't understand things.  Wik idea  11:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)