User talk:Isaanlawyers

June 2013
Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual and which complies with our username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. Thank you. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:27, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


 * So, As you can see this is what we call a "soft" block, meaning you are free to simply create a new account. Except you probably can't because of the underlying block on your IP. So, I'm thinking that the best way forward is for you to go to WP:ACC and request a new account be created for you. If that new account is also prevented from editing by the underlying block you should file an unblock request with it which details exactly what message you are seeing when you try to edit. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

{{unblock | Wow. My username is 'isaanlawyers' and I am the managing director of Isaan Lawyers Co. Ltd which is a legal entity in Thailand. Not only I am managing director, but I am a member of lawyers without borders, promoting freedom of speech, a member of the Quebec Bar Association (member 199 862-5) and a member of the International Bar Association (IBA). I have a blog here at www.sebastienbrousseau.com with my resume and dozens of websites. What is ASTONISHING is that I do not know who is BEEBLEBROX but you have my full name, resume, information, and I don't even know clearly why I was blocked because if I was blocked because representing a group, organization, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DO, as individual, and as managing director. But I can register on another username and use a proxy server, or an internet cafe, and you won't know it. Tell me EXACTLY WHAT I WROTE THAT WAS WRONG or FALSE and you should tell me who you are, if you are not afraid of the law. I thought wikipedia was open, promoting freedom of speech, but I see from your message that you don't even tell me what I did wrong, you tell me through a bot that I use a proxy server while I don't (but I can) and I find this UN-EXCUSABLE for a website like yours.} You just lost my support. And if one day, I can help to put you down, I will do. Because you are acting like a government, without a judge and jury, without a real accusation and putting innocent people wanting to contribute in a place where they don't belong. You are starting to be and to act like a authoritarian country.

By the way, my blocking is ending next month, for a reason I don't know, which shows how ARBITRARY your website is. Next month, I can put bullshit under the same name. But today, I can't put accurate and good content under my name.

Grow up Beeblebrox and get a life.


 * Ok, you are totally freaking about what is not really that big of a deal. This isn't about your edits, or I should say edit as before requesting unblock you had made only one edit nearly four years ago.


 * I'm wondering if you have fully understood what is going on here. You simply cannot use a username that represents a group. It doesn't matter who you really are, if you really represent them, or whatever, Wikipedia accounts are intended to represent individuals only, not groups. It's not uncommon for users not to be aware of this and to get a block like this that allows them to simply chose a new name. if you actually read what I wrote above you would have seen that you are perfectly free to create a new account with a non-infringing name, whether I know about it or not.


 * I would suggest you try to contain your anger and carefully re-read what I have written above, which was intended to provide you a way forward. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest you Mr Beeblebox, that has no name, no address, nothing linked to reality to understand the following:

1) I am an attorney promoting freedom of speech and I don't care who you are. 2) I did nothing wrong and the policies of Wikipedia or a website can vary to a website to another and nobody can know what is the problem unless you explain it clearly 3) I am not a native English speaker and contrary to your affirmation, I am NOT angry or freaking out. I feel this is unapropriate for someone like you said, edit a post 4 years ago. Don't you think.

Rules are fixed because of reasons. You can't tell me intelligently why I was banned. There is no reason, not even a rule about representing a group that I do not represent because LEGALLY, I DO REPRESENT "Isaan Lawyers" which is my nickname on many other websites and forum.

You can't answer me clearly. You can't say where I was wrong. Your website promoting freedom of speech just clearly breached it. Because you can't make a rule without explaining or changing it without any democratic action. And you banned me until XX July, which is REALLY STUPID because that means after that day, I can use that nickname again.

A BOT decided. Not a human being. Are you a human being or a bot? Are you freaking out to tell me what I did wrong, when, when, what did I edit that was wrong? And if you think you are so right, give me your name and address. I will talk to one of your supervisor even if you do that as volunteer work. Everyone in our society has a responsibility.

You clearly failed in your first answer.

I already created a second account, just for fun. And you know what, I live in Thailand and need proxies to use services like netflix or download some applications from Apple not available here. So if I want, your rule, I can decide to do otherwise. But because I did nothing wrong and I am not afraid, I just answer. Because I feel that you won't find what else to say. The rules are the rules. Just like UNIONS were illegal about 100 years ago. Like slavery was legal 200 years ago. Like segregation was fine until Rosa Park decided to stand up in a bus. Do you believe in death penalty, what do you think about abortions or use of marijuana? Are you interested to help society grow up Mr Beeblebrox or do you work for a government that will put Manning and Snowden in jail, or wikileaks because the truth hurts.

My name is Sebastien H. Brousseau. I was born on 31 st March 1969 in 3 Rivières, a small place in Québec. I live in Thailand and I am 44 yo. I traveled the world and completed 8 years of university. You are Beeblebrox. And use your power thought wikipedia. Well, I don't care. Do whatever you want. Idiot.


 * Ok, I am going to try one last time to help you comprehend what is going on here.
 * Generally, open proxies are not allowed to be used on Wikipedia due to the potential for abuse. That is (apparently, according to what you have said) why your IP is blocked. I don't know what you IP is so I can't see the blocking information for that block.
 * Again, this is not about your one edit from four years ago being "wrong". I haven't even looked at it, it is not relevant to the issues involved in these blocks, which again are the apparent use of an open proxy and using a username the represents a business.
 * Since you ask for a rule I will share it with you again since you apparently missed it the first time:WP:ORGNAME. That's the reason for the username block. The proxy block, I had nothing to do with but I did try and give you pointers on how to deal with it above.
 * It's perfectly fine that you crated another account since you can't use this name. If you had actually read my previous messages you would have sen that I repeatedly suggested you do just that and I provided pointers on how to deal with the proxy block once you had done so.
 * Wikipedia is not a website for "promoting free speech". In fact, Wikipedia is not a website for promoting anything of any kind. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. That's it. Free knowledge is the idea.


 * Who you really are and where you are from is not relevant. Neither is who I really am and where I am from. This is not personal, how could it be as I don't know you and you don't know me, and if you read my remarks carefully you would see that I am actually trying to help you but you seem to want to get angry and call me an idiot instead. I don't know how things work in your law office but generally that is not how to get along with people. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)