User talk:Isabelle Belato/Archive 7

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Hi, you closed an RfC Talk:Marjorie_Taylor_Greene. The subject of the close was if the term would be used in the WP:LEDE. On another note, are you a new account created two weeks ago (with no prior wp exp) and you are closing RFCs? Do you feel you have the experience necessary to do that? (Apparently you do, but please explain). Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 19:16, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Jtbobwaysf, you are mistaken about this user's level of experience. The diff linked in the close makes it clear which use of "extremist" was discussed. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Isabelle is more experienced than you and specified that the consensus was for the term "as presented in the RfC" and linked to the diff in the lede. –– FormalDude  (talk)  19:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi ! I wouldn't mind clarifying that the RfC was indeed about a change (or lack thereof) in the lede of the article, though I believed that to be clear from the diff I added to the closing statement (the same one presented in the OP). Concerning my experience as an editor, I'd imagine you confused me with another user or misread something, as my account is about 13 years old (though I've been editing the English Wikipedia for a much shorter time). Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 20:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your helpful clarification and for closing the RFC fairly! Andre🚐 20:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the clarification. I guess I mis-read when I looked at your contributions. 13 years is certainly enough to close RFCs. :-) Apologies. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 21:41, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Boxer Books


Hello, Isabelle Belato. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Boxer Books".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from LavenderGroves (17:20, 6 September 2022)
Hey there Isabelle – Appreciate the offer to help me out here!

I have a question for you – related to why I signed up to edit. I'm part of an organization called Ashoka. Someone at my organization recently made me aware that we will need to shift the Ashoka wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka_(non-profit_organization) ) according to new branding / picture guidelines that are coming out.

And that said, I'm also noting two things:

1) The conflict of Interest page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest ) states that people with a possible COI should refrain from making edits unless they're very small ones. The edits proposed for now would not be foundational and not to self-promote; it'd be to shift the logo, and to update the tagline (we're now Ashoka: Everyone a Changemaker, instead of Ashoka: Innovators for the Public).

2) Wikipedia / Jimmy Wales is an Ashoka Fellow – aka within Ashoka's network – and so the edit (on top of us using Wikipedia) may also complicate things a bit; given that Wikipedia is supposed to be a collaborative editing effort rather than organizations going in and editing things when elements are updated.

The above all said, I'm wondering if you may offer me some guidance on how the edits can be done without compromising the above COI, as we do need some things to be updated in line with the upcoming branding revamp. AND we do not want to cross the current policy / respect what is being done. I'm aware of the clause in COI around handling requests from folx like me on the COI page itself under "Dealing with edit requests..." As such I thought to be transparent and up front before making the edits we desire to do, and see if there may be a way to get them implemented without compromising COI.

I'm totally happy to pass by the edits in more detail when I have them if that would be best. Or if you have an idea of how this should go then I'm open to that too. --LavenderGroves (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there, LavenderGroves! Thanks for reaching me. If I understood you correctly, the path you should take is quite a simple one: as soon as the changes related to the company are made public, you should open an edit request at the article's talk page, stating what you want changed and providing the appropriate sources. Considering these are minor changes that can be sourced to primary sources, it should go fine, though might take a while to go through the queue. It's not a guarantee that they will be accepted, though. Isabelle 🏴‍☠️ 20:01, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Appreciate that @Isabelle Belato! I'll be sure to do that once things are updated. Appreciate your help / guidance here! LavenderGroves (talk) 19:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Message from Thespearthrower
I made no gender related edits. Please no do not vandalize my talk page. I am going to remove your edit but not report it as I am not sure if you confused me for somebody else.Thespearthrower (talk) 04:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Showing interest in CWC is gender related. 0x Deadbeef 05:37, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Huksons (05:00, 12 September 2022)
Hello I want to publish information about my company on Wikipedia to show up on google search page. Please help me out. --Huksons (talk) 05:00, 12 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. First of all, you should learn that Wikipedia is not for the promotion or advertisement of your business. If the article you want to write does not satisfy our notability policies, it will likely be deleted. If, you still believe your company should have an article on Wikipedia, then you should read our policies on paid editing and see how to proceed. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 20:38, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Anonymous321 980896 (21:26, 12 September 2022)
How can I publish my article properly on Wikipedia? --Anonymous321 980896 (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'd first recommend you become acquainted to the project by learning how to contribute. For example, I love children's literature, so I'm often correcting typos, adding sources and expanding them.
 * Having done that, and feeling more comfortable with the tools, you should then consider reading this page about how to create your first article. It gives you some basic pointers on how to edit Wikipedia, and how to proceed to create a draft. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 21:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Celestia134 (10:33, 13 September 2022)
How to grow you business? --Celestia134 (talk) 10:33, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Celestia134, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you have any questions about how to edit articles or create pages, I'd be more than happy to help! Isabelle 🏴‍☠️ 14:31, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Maharajca (06:08, 16 September 2022)
Thanks for the welcome sir. What are the general rules in editing an article created by others.

Should we get permission to edit? Does the owner has the right to approve the edit made by us. --Maharajca (talk) 06:08, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Maharajca, and welcome to Wikipedia! Just like it says in the main page, anyone can edit, meaning you don't need to ask permission to edit articles in the project. Spend some time reading the introductory pages, and then try editing articles that are of your interest. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 20:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

ETS Surgery
Hi. You removed my link for www.etssurgeryawareness.org. That's fine, but I think deleting the entire text passage, giving people the name of a cited and referenced website is not necessary. It is a helpful source. Can I put it back up without the link as that had already been deemed acceptable and checked? Thank you. CathF83 (talk) 21:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi CathF83. Without reliable sources that show the notability of that website's creation, it looks like an ad and no, you should not add it back to the article. I see you've opened a discussion at the talk page, which is the correct procedure. I can leave my thoughts there if need be, but it would be the same I said here. My recommendation would be to suggest it is added as an external link. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 21:55, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

It is an awareness website for no gain. It is fully cited and referenced. It isn't advertising, it is an awareness publication, all the side-effects are referenced from peer-reviewed studies and it properly referenced to physical & emotional affects. This is to help people. It is not for any gainful purposes and is completely relevant to the subject and matter at hand. The website is being used internationally to learn more, and all medically referenced, just like wikipedia itself. CathF83 (talk) 23:19, 16 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @CathF83: Please read WP:Advocacy, which expands on WP:SOAP and explains why I removed that paragraph from the article. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 23:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks,, that's very kind of you. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 01:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Same from me. Excellent job, thank you. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 03:06, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message ! When closing discussions like this, I try not only to note the consensus, but how participants should procede next, when that's also clear in the discussion (and the previous ones, when those exist). Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 12:25, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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AfC notification: Draft:Dinah Johnson has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Dinah Johnson. Thanks! MurielMary (talk) 08:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the input, ! I was going to work on the draft some more, but it seems that and  did all the heavy lifting already. Thanks to the two of you for improving the article! Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 20:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Nobominkemele (19:41, 5 October 2022)
Hello how can I get started to edit --Nobominkemele (talk) 19:41, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there,, and welcome to Wikipedia! If you want to start editing, all you have to do is find an article that interests you, and press the "Edit" button. I'd also recomendo you go through the community's tutorial to learn more details on how to edit and contribute to the project. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 19:47, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Flag
Cool flag in your signature! I am fairly new; can I see the code for your sig? Thanks. David10244 (talk) 10:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Wait... is the flag a single character? David10244 (talk) 10:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @David10244: To see the code you can simply press the edit button wherever I've left my signature. And yes, the flag is just an emoji, which I add by using the Windows+. shortcut. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 19:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Thanks. David10244 (talk) 09:11, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @David10244: Also, you should check WP:FANCYSIG if you haven't already, for some instructions on how to customize your signature. Isabelle 🏴‍☠️ 09:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, ! I did get bamboozled for a moment, though, haha. Isabelle 🏴‍☠️ 10:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Precious
You are recipient no. 2767 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:13, 8 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Gerda, that's very kind of you. I appreciate all the work you've done in recognizing members of our community and lifting their spirits. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 10:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - it's really my pleasure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Song recommendation
there is a song about you in turkish-german i hope you like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiaWCah7Nfs 85.98.21.139 (talk) 10:38, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding

 * Thanks for raising that issue, . While it's important to filter criticism, I do always try to take into consideration other people's opinions and comments. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 10:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks,, that's very appreciated! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 17:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

You've got mail

 * @gnu57: I've replied to the email. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 16:16, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @gnu57: I've amended my answer to your question, concerning your other point raised in the email, I honestly think that boat has sailed a long time ago. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 17:06, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Question 11
The possibility that a negative experience is what had driven you to the English Wikipedia did not cross my mind when I had asked the question, and I did not mean to make you dwell upon previous incidents in which you were demeaned or otherwise mistreated. I would like to apologize for bringing you to dwell upon that and I wish you the best of luck with the RfA! —  Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:45, 9 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi . Don't worry about it! While I usually don't talk about it, since it feels a bit self-serving, I've always been open on why I left the Portuguese Wikipedia when asked. I'm just glad I found a place that feels much more welcoming to users! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 11:01, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't catch that sooner
No one should have to deal with harassment like that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for dealing with it so quickly, . While this has become somewhat par for the course, I'm always very appreciative when admins step in to respond to these situations. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 23:40, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, . I'll take this opportunity to say I'll probably not comment further on what has transpired, other than to say I hope this is a case of a compromised account. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 01:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I certainly hope so too. Again, sorry you have to put up with this shit.<span id="ScottishFinnishRadish:1665452790583:User_talkFTTCLNIsabelle_Belato" class="FTTCmt"> ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Good luck
Hi Isabelle Belato, I hope you’re doing okay. Good luck with your run for admin 👍 🙂 - GizzyCatBella  🍁  04:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
It sucks to get such comments, from an admin no less. Here's a kitten!

Liliana UwU (talk / contribs) 02:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * @LilianaUwU: Thanks <3 Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 02:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

+1. I'm sorry you had to deal with that, especially during an already-stressful time. That comment didn't represent our community, and I hope you never doubt that you are welcome and appreciated here. Levivich (talk) 04:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * With Levivich, I'm sorry you had to deal with the unacceptable message. The admin also, had a history of editing messages like that, and furthermore, the account is not compromised. But I'm sorry you had to go through that nonsense and uncomfortable comment. Sarrail (talk) 12:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ella & Sophia joint (15:35, 13 October 2022)
Hello, we (we created an account together so we could edit at the same time) are a little confused on the signature part of the wiki. I have edited other wikis before, but I don't know how any other one would work. Thanks! Ella &#38; Sophia joint (talk) 15:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ella & Sophia joint (17:33, 13 October 2022)
One more question: we were wondering if we could make a page about chickens. One of us has chickens, and there doesn't seem to be a page about the disease we found a cure for. I can go into more detail, but if we cite and fact check everything would we be allowed to create a page? How would we even create it if so? Thanks a bunch Ella &#38; Sophia joint (talk) 17:33, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

More kittens

 * Thanks! Kittens are always welcome here! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 22:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Congrats in advance
At 100% support in your RfA, it's plausible that you gonna get them extra buttons... Congrats and happy editing. Volten <span style="color:lime	">001 <b style="color:red">☎</b> 21:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Solidarity
You will be an amazing administrator, Isabelle. (.) I wouldn't presume anything about how you feel right now, but I hope you can see you have the resounding support of this community, not just as an admin candidate but as a person worthy of respect—even if a few notable dissents can, by virtue of their scarcity, stick out more and thus feel louder than they are. I know that you and I have disagreed before on the nuances of how Wikipedia handles hate speech, but I know we're in agreement that it must not stand. I hope you know that, as an admin, I am always around to step in against any user who engages in hate speech (although you may be able to handle that yourself soon—again ). And I hope you know that, as a person, and as someone who can relate to receiving RfA opposition for being nonbinary (I couldn't say that before, but I guess there's at least one now we can reasonably suppose was motivated by that), I am always available by email/IRC/Discord if you want to talk.

Be well. In siblinghood --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 16:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Tamzin: Thanks, truly. I hold you high regard, and seeing your support at the RfA was great.
 * I also wanted to take this opportunity say thanks to all who decided to stop by and leave a kind message, and those who have done similar elsewhere. While I'm used to the occasional troll, it cuts much deeper when the words come from an experienced member of the community, a fact which I'm sure has also affected many other editors. This RfA has been a wild ride, I appreciate how seriously the community has treated this matter, and I hope y'all will forgive me if I sit this one out. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 20:28, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've been pondering saying something all day, but I think your grace with avoiding the controversy elsewhere, and carrying on working on the project while keeping an eye on RfA questions, shows good judgement and character, and I wouldn't be surprised if you end up with your name at WP:RFX200. Best of luck with the rest of the RfA, anyhow. (As nobody else mentioned it, the picture on my support !vote was one of a pylon ie: pile on ... I'll get my coat...) <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:42, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Sitting out a controversy that arises during one's RfA... now there's an idea. 🤣 --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 22:51, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Isabelle, like Ritchie I have pondered if to say anything and what to say. I fall on my principles that all people are a Song. We don't always understand what is being played or the colors we see but every Song is important. Some people are threatened by a Song they don't comprehend. I believe their feelings are valid and real and come from a place of hurt that they may have received in Life (not always of course but it is typical). However, a feeling is no excuse to belittle or intentionally hurt someone so even if it is valid it is not okay to perpetuate hurtful actions. I want this noted and made clear because I saw this mentioned at the ANI discussion. You are no threat to me, my personhood or my womanhood. You are you and I am me, each unique Song's made of colorful notes that join in with a grander symphony of the Earth. It is an honor and a privilege to listen to your Song and see how it continues to develop here on Wikipedia and in life. And as a note, your silence on this subject isn't really silence, it speaks volumes about your character. I think you will make a fine administrator. We are all Rainbows. -- A Rose Wolf  16:47, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also extending solidarity as a fellow nonbinary trans editor. This whole situation has turned my stomach, so I can imagine it's a thousand times worse for you. Funcrunch (talk) 22:57, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks all for the kind words. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 00:00, 13 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Only found out about this very late last night. My compassion and concern that you were subjected to a personal attack at your RfA. RfA is stressful enough already, no matter how smoothly it's going. You have my support and solidarity, and I feel confident you will make a fine admin. Take care of yourself and be well. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 20:07, 13 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I wish I could apologize for how circumstances have caused this already stressful personal process to become especially important to others. The problem with putting smart people next to each other is that via BOLD we have learned the value of agency and mutual support, and we will be heard, boldly. I'd like to lurk in to wish you well and express my appreciation to your demeanor thoughout, and continuing forward. Know you have allies, and that alliance transcends any location, login, or logos. BusterD (talk) 22:08, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both, and . I was warned that RfA could be stressful, but I never guessed it would be this stressful. While I'm still processing all that has happened and is happening, I've been very grateful by the community's response and the messages of support I've received. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 22:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Isabelle, I just wanted to add my admiration and gratitude for the many years you've given to WP—I have no doubts you will be a valuable addition to the WP admins. I should also note that bringing a new article to WP (Maybe an Artist) with substantial information already included is a welcome change from what I'm used to seeing.  Aza24  (talk)   21:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

 * Obrigada, ! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 04:13, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

A baton for you!

 * Congrats Isabelle! And, so pleased to see that 's tradition has gotten this far. DanCherek (talk) 11:00, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind if anyone here could advice on some useful scripts to get to help with some tasks. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 13:48, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Administrators' guide/Tools has a list of tools that you may find helpful. Whpq (talk) 15:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Whpq: Thanks! From the looks of it, Twinkle and Huggle will continue to be my main tools. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 16:35, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you are going to be closing discussions, you may want to enable WP:XFDcloser. -- Whpq (talk) 17:24, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Here are all the scripts I've installed since I've become an administrator if you're interested. DatGuyTalkContribs 15:43, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Sheila Shulman
Thanks! I was attempting to verify the TERF mention. I didn't find anything to support it. {{it was added by {{diff||1075301912|1025068980|an anon in March}} w/o comment. What was that about? Cheers Adakiko (talk) 16:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I tried checking the source the sentence was associated with but appears to be dead. The year associated with the event made me double check to make sure I wasn't reverting to another disruptive version. Isabelle Belato {{sup|🏳‍🌈}} 16:51, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Need a "being checked" button so half of Wiki editors don't go off on a tangent! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 17:11, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and congratulations
I am fairly new around here; as a computer programmer, I like seeing the "behind the scenes" stuff of almost anything. So I have been reading (and commenting in) the Teahouse and Help desk for entertainment (smile) for several months.

I have read a few RfAs before (and I don't think I'll ever want to be an admin) but yours seemed... well... amazing. I don't know you, but based comments by names I do recognize, you must be a special person!

Cheers, and congratulations. David10244 (talk) 01:32, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * If I had a flag, it would be this: 🏳️‍🌈 David10244 (talk) 01:37, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I too would like to add my congratulations. Welcome to the 99+% support club. Cullen328 (talk) 02:26, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, that's very nice of you.
 * @: Thanks! I couldn't be happier with the amount of support received. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 18:17, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Congrats -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:36, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations
I'm happy to inform you that I have closed your RfA as successful. Good luck with the new tools!  Maxim <small style="color:blue;">(talk)   22:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

!!! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Congrats on your success at RfA, and best of luck with the tools. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 23:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

conglaturation on the adminship!!! Liliana UwU (talk / contribs) 23:21, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Congrats on making RFX200, and good luck with adminship! WindTempos (talk • contribs) 23:23, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Congrats!! { <b style="color:#191970;">Nythar</b> T . C 23:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Felicitations on your RfA and welcome to the team. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:03, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the congratulations. I'll try to do my best with the trust that y'all put in me. Isabelle Belato 🏴‍☠️ 00:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've told them already, but thanks again to my nominators, who I will keep annoying with silly questions for the foreseeable future. Isabelle Belato 🏴‍☠️ 01:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Way to go! No doubts you'll do a great job. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:36, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

So, who's gonna give the admin T-shirt? I don't have any laying around, considering I'm not an admin... Liliana UwU (talk / contribs) 00:38, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Time to hand over the baton! { <b style="color:#191970;">Nythar</b> T . C 02:20, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not his job. It's my job! Whpq (talk) 03:01, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I forgot! Pay no attention! <b style="color:#191970;">Nythar</b> T . C  04:11, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess now it's my job. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 04:12, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yep. Again, congrats! <b style="color:#191970;">Nythar</b> T . C 04:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

As your fellow recent changes patroller, I also want to say congrats! From the second I saw your RfA, I knew you'd succeed with flying colours. It may have gotten rough, but you kept on trucking. The resilience you demonstrated is admirable. You're a passionate and mature editor and you deserve this mop. ◇  Helen   Degenerate  ◆ 19:13, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on the RFA! I know you'll do great. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Here you go! It's corny but it's a tradition. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC) Admin T-shirt.svg

Sorry
Hello, Isabelle,

I'm sorry your User pages are being attacked by trolls. I had my own experience like this during Gamergate and even though I only edited the article talk page, it made me a target. I also think that it's more commonly experienced by women editors/admins. It tends to come in waves so hopefully all of their accounts are blocked and you'll get some relief. Just know that I'm sure your User pages are on some admins' Watchlists now. It DOES get better! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:13, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Liz: Meant to reply earlier, but couldn't with my alternative account. It's been a wild ride ever since the beginning of the RfA, but this stream of vandalism has been the least worst thing to happen. Thanks for keeping an eye on my pages, and sorry you got caught in it, too, it seems. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 20:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to join in, again

 * I never knew that happened to you. I agree with you about the challenges of being a female editor. For me, I have faced harassment that was bad enough to be revdel'ed, but not bad enough to be Oversighted. I may never know what was in those edits. However, I don't let it affect my contributions here.  Sunil Nevla Fan ✨ 06:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * oversighted edits are not necessarily 'worse' than revdelled edits in terms of content, rather they are also hidden from admins for other reasons such as that they may contain private info (see doxing). @Isabelle: don't let that sad LTA get to you, and keep up the good work! ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 11:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

 * Thanks all for the nice words :3 Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 20:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Some boba tea for you!

 * Thanks, Rotideypoc41352. I do love boba tea! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 19:53, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * ...and more vandalism almost immediately after the protection expired. I'd suggest protecting the page longer. Sarrail (talk) 00:17, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Things seem to have calmed down for now. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 01:34, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Let's hope it stays that way... Sarrail (talk) 01:50, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations on your successful RFA. Good luck with your new tools. Sarrail (talk) 15:13, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

I wanted to wish you congratulations for the successful request as well. Tropicalkitty (talk) 23:49, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Sarrail and Tropicalkitty: Thanks for the congratulations <3 Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 23:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Congrats. remember to have fun. Andre<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">🚐 00:40, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Parabéns! You'll do a great job with the mop. –FlyingAce✈hello 04:52, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks; Obrigada! So far having all these buttons has been quite scary, but I'm getting the hang of it. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 13:38, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to join in with the congratulations, as I see that you blocked the IP I reported at AIV. :) -- Sunil Nevla Fan ✨ 20:52, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I also just reverted a vandal's message on your talk page. You're welcome. ;)  Sunil Nevla Fan ✨ 20:53, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @SunilNevlaFan: Thanks! Isabelle Belato 🏴‍☠️ 21:28, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Belated congratulations from me. I see from my watchlist that you're already using the buttons! --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:57, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Still getting acclimated and installing some scripts, but so far so good! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 00:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Allow me to add to the congratulations, and best wishes for a successful admin career! --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:54, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

I just noticed your name at AIV. Congratulations and thank you! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:04, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, ! Feel free to message me in case you have any advice or see me making any mistakes. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 21:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I've had a look again and all advice I can currently provide is to continue, keeping up the good work. Face-smile.svg ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:35, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Wytham Abbey
Well, well. How did you do that? Were you refreshing the G6 queue, or what? How did you manage to see that I had tagged the redirect for G6 before I was then able to move the redirect out of the way? Robert McClenon (talk) 23:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Robert McClenon: Probably refreshed the CSD category as soon as it was added there. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 23:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
I'll step back and let you review the next one. No point tripping over one another!  Schwede 66  01:26, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Schwede66: Oh, sorry if we edit conflicted! Feel free to review the next user's request, I was about to take a break anyways, haha. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 01:28, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll go back to real work now.  Schwede 66  01:28, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Middle East Eye
Hi, I responded to your message. best 2A02:A03F:6AF4:4200:30B0:348F:F916:95FC (talk) 17:34, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

My added links may need some editing. I am not very fluent in the way to have them well documented. Should spent some time, when I find some... 2A02:A03F:6AF4:4200:30B0:348F:F916:95FC (talk) 17:38, 22 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I've answered on your talk page and advised on continuing conversation on the article's talk page. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 17:42, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red November 2022
--Lajmmoore (talk) 17:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Question from Contrariagirl (06:29, 26 October 2022)
Hello I was editing an article today and my edit was reverted. I made this change in good faith but I don't think the person editing my page viewed it this way and may be biased not to include information that I think is relevent to the aricle... I republished my edit and cited sources but I do not want to start a war which goes against wikis policies and my own code of ethics how should I resolve this dispute if my edits are removed but serve a clear educational and informative purpose --Contrariagirl (talk) 06:29, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Contrariagirl: The first thing you might want to do is to ask the editor who reverted you to further explain why they believe your change was incorrect, so that you might avoid doing the same mistake again in the future. If the edit in question is, our policy on biographies of living people is involved, and you should consider reading it, as it is one of our more important ones. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 22:04, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this response this answers my question thank you. The edit in question (not this one) was resolved and updated. Regarding this particular edit I thanked the editor for making the correction after review I would agree with them. I don't think it was sutibable for an encyclopedic entry per policy on Biographies of living people. Thanks Again Contrariagirl (talk) 22:16, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Contrariagirl: As an additional note, if you are ever reverted, unless we are talking about obvious vandalism, you should either open a new topic in the article's talk page or discuss directly with the person who reverted you. If you haven't, read BOLD, revert, discuss cycle an essay that explains this process. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 22:48, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Oversighting
Hello, thanks for the oversighting on OpenSSL, but you missed one! Just letting you know. Roundish  ⋆  t c) 17:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Roundish: Thanks for the heads-up, that should be all of them now! Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 17:14, 29 October 2022 (UTC) As a small addendum, I just rev-del'ed the edits, which is a separate process from oversighting. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 17:17, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Mkb1wheelsup on Thomas Nairne (18:16, 29 October 2022)
Isabelle Belato, this narrative is written in the form of a letter. Thank you for the opportunity to benefit from your mentorship. I joined Wikipedia today and desire to learn the details and intricacies of editing. This to then make positive contributions. May I introduce myself. I am Kirby Bodden, recently retired from the realms of academic dentistry (DMD, Associate Professor of Prosthodontics) and NIH-funded medical research (PhD, Associate Scientist at UAB Comprehensive Cancer Center). The aforementioned degrees and positions were included to inform you that my present editing skill set is limited to the authoring and reviewing of medical research grants, refereed journal articles, and medical center administrative publications. With no experience in Wikipedia type publications I am eager to learn.

Thank you for allowing me to both introduce myself and state my goals. --Mkb1wheelsup (talk) 18:16, 29 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! I've left you a small welcome message in your talk page, which should contain some essential links to learn how to participate here. If you have any specific questions about what to do, and how to do it, feel free to reach me, or you can also visit the teahouse, a place where other experienced editors will be able to assist you. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 18:41, 29 October 2022 (UTC)