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Proposed deletion of Ivan Kurtušić


The article Ivan Kurtušić has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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Proposed deletion of Ivan Kurtušić


The article Ivan Kurtušić has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. GregJackP  Boomer!   03:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Ivan Kurtušić
Sorry, but your edit is not backed by any sources which are needed because of verifiability.

Please bring sources to the article which can back the edits you want to make, best regards FkpCascais (talk) 19:16, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, from your last edit I assume you are Ivan Kurtušić, but even so, that doesn´t change anything. The thing is that you don´t need to be mad at me, and Wikipedia is not my website, I am just a senior editor here known to work a lot and well with football from Serbia and former Yugoslavia. I must say that the tone in which the article was written was not much encyclopedic, but rather promotional, which is not allowed by WP:PROMOTION. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia with a rigid set of rules and recomendations and all articles should follow them. One of the main rules here is that it is not that the articles necessarily contain "The trouth" but rather that all infomation is verifiable. That means that all data inserted in articles is backed by reliable sources.


 * Now, about football articles, obviously all this applies as well. You also have football sources which are more reliable than others. For exemple, Transfermarkt is not considered reliable, as anyone can register and edit it. The only part of Transfermarkt which is reliable are the match reports, because those are inserted by website administrators and not random users. For exemple, I am a registered editor at Transfermarkt as well, and I often complete players careers there, but also I spend a lot of time undoing mistakes there, and there are plenty of them unfortunatelly. On the other side, srbijafudbal.net works strictly with the data available from the official match reports available at the FSS - Serbian Football Association, so it is considered a reliable website as the data comes from the highest official organisation. I am not saying that srbijafudbal.net is infalible, even I found some mistakes about birthplaces there, but the data they have is quite accurate.


 * Regarding the edits, the problem is that the caps&goals you added are not confirmed at any of the websites mentioned. I even tried to find you your stats from Bastia, and it seems that you didn´t played any official league match while with them, because if not, they would certainly be recorded at least at your page at Playerhistory.com, and they are not, as you can see here. They are not very complete for leagues from former Yugoslavia, but they are quite precise for all major European leagues, including Franch Ligue 2. Your page at FootballDatabase.eu claims you played for their reserves team. Can you find any source for your time at Bastia, or can I add 0 (0) then? Note, in infobox, only the league appearances count for clubs, no cup, international or friendly matches are included.


 * Then, coming back to your spells in Serbia, srbijafudbal.net has the data of all top three levels since 2001, and they don´t have any record of any league spells of you in Vojvodina or Sartid, and they have a much lower league numbers than the ones you added. Also, you seem to claim that you didn´t played in Vlasina in 2006/07 (srbijafudbal.net says you played 6 matches in the second level) and you say you never played with Senta before going to Malta?


 * Also, if you know any other places where we can find you stats, please bring them, so we can include them in the article. I hope you don´t take me wrong for this, but Serbian and regional football have been working much better for some time now here on English Wikipedia, but for archiving that, we do need to be strict with this rules as otherwise everyone could write whatever wats and then this would not be an encyclopedia, but just an untrustwurty way of players promoting themselfs, and that is not at all the point of this project. I sincerily hope you understand this. Срдачан поздрав. FkpCascais (talk) 00:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)