User talk:IvoShandor/Archive Aug 2007

National Register
Oops. _WAS_ editing a different page...at least I was supposed to be. Don't know how that happened. Sorry. Gmatsuda 03:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs Massacre
Hi Ive made a few comments on the talk page about three things - but really I couldnt fault. I would appreciate if you have a spare few minutes somewhen taking a look at Bill Clinton and leeting me know if you find anything that could be improved. Drop me a message when you take the article to FAC incase I miss it. Thanks. LordHarris 20:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I scanned over it and made a couple minor corrections. I don't have time right now to do a thorough review, but it looked pretty good. One thing that did stand out was the use of elipses in quotes. I'm not sure if that correct use or not. It just doesn't look right to me. Lara  Love  05:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your reply to my comments, your answer was reasonable. I've strongly supported its FAC. Good luck and I think it should pass. LordHarris 12:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Better template
Yeah, I thought there was a better template, but you found it. From now on I will use that. When I go through and check the Ogle articles tonight, I am going to add that to all the cities/villages etc.--Kranar drogin 22:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, I was hoping you could help me get a DYK with Rockford Township, Winnebago County, Illinois as it being the biggest township in Illinois. Can you help me expand this more? I have started some. Thanks!--Kranar drogin 01:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Felix St. Vrain
I' looking at this and having a hard time figuring why this information couldn't be in St. Vrain massacre. Any thoughts on a merge and redirect? Circeus 22:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Apple River Fort
Ok. Thanks for that. I created the article in without the knowledge of the different sources. I would feel safer in creating this article reliably if you and the other person were to help me, so I would thank you for all the help you could give. I dont know much about the Black Hawk War, so it is another reason for you to help me. Oh, and by the way - I saw you took your name off the DYK list, but you still continue to submit DYKs. Why have you taken yourself off? Please consider rejoining; you may be the only one, along with me and a few others, who regularly updates. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 01:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Top priority candidates
I replied to your talk page post. Your opinion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chicago/Assessment on the worthiness of articles to be candidates for Top-importance Chicago articles would be helpful. I thought you might want to help us determine which articles should become official candidates and which should not. This is the preliminary stage to becoming a top article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Your message
I did'nt do any change in User:Daniel Case, probably a confusion of IP. Regards195.7.120.67 15:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC) (bigomar on french WP)

Specimens of Tyrannosaurus
The merge-to article does not exist yet because it's just been proposed, to hold several separate articles on tyrannosaur specimens. The (Discuss) link should have taken you to the WikiProject Dinosaurs discussion on the topic. J. Spencer 04:13, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I just explained myself there. I've got no problem with Sue and Jane keeping their own articles if they're robust enough, but I don't think AMNH 5027, BHI 3033, and CM 9380 fall into that category. J. Spencer 14:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your consideration; you have a good point on the inevitability of some articles. Would you support a proposal wherein the three small articles are merged into one, summaries for Sue and Jane are added to this new article, and Sue and Jane are left to stand? J. Spencer 15:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal case
Hello, you have been listed as a potential participant in an informal mediation regarding a dispute over The History Channel. The case page is listed at Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-07-28 The History Channel. I am reviewing the case and offering my assistance in resolving this matter. If you are willing to participate in the mediation and willing to accept my offer to mediate, please let me know. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 05:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please note this case is now active. Feel free to participate as you see fit. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 16:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Dutch barn pic
Thank you. I went back to the house site with morning light, hoping I could take better pics than what I already had. The house pictures turned out worse (so I used the best of the earlier ones, taken in late afternoon) but I swung around from where I was standing to look at the barn and realized it was a much better angle. The sky was just perfect. I like the trees around the edges ... gives it a sort of Hudson River School feel, which is very appropriate given the region. The stones below the barn also work well, too.

I didn't realize the significance of what was in the photo until I read the Dutch barn article. I didn't realize they were so rare. And this one is in pretty good shape ... that adds to the importance of the picture, I suspect (Really, the barn should be designated a National Historic Landmark if it is indeed the only surviving one).

I just put the article up on DYK, but your comment is making me wonder if I should take it to WP:PPR in preparation for a possible Featured Picture nom. Because I think it's good, too. Daniel Case 04:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

congrats!
I'm a bit embarrassed to take a barnstar, since I think my contributions were mostly inconsequential.. but more importantly, congrats!!!

... now I'm waiting for Featured article candidates/Georg Cantor. Ling.Nut 15:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

FA date request
I'm sorry about being so nitpicky, but I have been waiting to make a request for August 31 and hardly see it fair that a date even further away be made before that. Thanks, Mattythewhite 16:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Horseshoe Bend
Ah, no problem; the project page is, admittedly, rather too long now for casual reading.

The articles are quite good, by the way; I'd just encourage you to start adding citations early on, as that tends to be easier, in my experience, than going back and putting them in after the fact. :-) Kirill 17:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs
Well done on the FA and thanks for the medal. I think you deserve this:

The Golden Wiki Award For getting Rock Springs Massacre to Featured Article Status. LordHarris 20:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Kellogg's Grove
Hi, I did not note anything on my review because I did not find anything that would deny it from becoming GA. The only thing that i must say is that the article has to do to become more than GA is to expand it. Other than that the article is great. -- ( Cocoaguy ここがいい contribstalk) 02:56, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

A thankyou
I meant to give this to you after the RfA had finished, but I think you ought to have it right now. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 17:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Maid-Rite Sandwich Shop
Got it. Finally. Rklawton 23:06, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

See also: Maid-Rite. Rklawton 00:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Auroranorth
Hey, you claimed to be pretty good with getting GA to FA....i was wondering if you could take a look at Aquinas College, Perth - has been a GA since March, although has undergone massive changes (for the better) since that date. Cheers. Twenty Years 14:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I must say a big thank you. Ive never seen such a ruthless (and i like it) assesment of an article! Ive fixed up a few of your things; history (summarised), student life (merge/deleted), image sizing and ors. Some of your ideas i am not too sure about - the alumni list is used on all 3 school FA's.Twenty Years 12:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * On the review you offered, how do we improve the captions, personally i dont see a problem with them - but i know there is something wrong :p help please :) Twenty Years 14:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the message
Thanks for the nice message; I am back. I think I need to learn better coping skills on here. --David Shankbone 13:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Wannarexia
Thanks for moving my comment to the logical place. I'm still getting used to these talk pages. --Evil1987 23:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Ghost town project
I've started a discussion thread on the project's talk page. As the creator of the project, I thought you might like to participate. Rklawton 00:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Board of Trade Building
The CBOT Building is featured, per Raul's listing at WP:FA. Because it's summer, there is a delay in the bot which runs to close the FAC and update the talk page. Raul's listing at WP:FA (not the talk page) is the definitive closure and promotion. The bot will most likely run later tonight. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 01:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Apple River Fort
Thanks so much for making this decent. I couldn't get my hands on any good sources, and had no knowledge of the subject - I was overwhelmed. It's lucky we have great article writers like you around! -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 10:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The redlink... and the fact that I haven't made a "battle of" article in quite a while. Since you have been able to find sources, I might get in there and do some things too. It doesn't feel right just leaving the article up to you when I made it, and therefore left the responsibility on someone else to make it a proper article. I'll see if I can help you out. Before you take it to GA, it might need more refs and maybe a bit more content. I'll see what I can do to help you out. Cheers -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 10:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll head off to my library as soon as I can, see if I can dig something up. For now, I'll do as much as I can with general fixes, and i will take a look at the references later, or tomorrow (irritating homework) Thanks -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 10:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

NRHP on Commons
Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places. I'm thinking of doing some clean up, but since it seems most of the Illinois photos on there are yours I'd like your input first. G LeTourneau 14:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm new, and still trying to find the right way to be bold and make sure I respect the work everyone has put in.G LeTourneau 18:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, cool. I'm right along the Cook/Lake border so I'm mainly hitting the surrounding counties.  Lots of photos for now, and I'm researching and writing a few articles as well.  It's been a few years since I've written something non-technical, so it's slow going there.  For Commons, I'll start with recategorizing the sites that have cats since that'll be quick and easy, then move on to the rest.  Thanks for the info and the help, I'm sure I'll be bugging you again. G LeTourneau 19:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Great, thanks for the info. I have been using HAARGIS and it's great - I just wish they'd get their scanner realligned, as I've had quite a few missing 1/2 inch or so on the right margin. I'm also curious as to whether their photos are in the public domain. I think a lot of them are slides that were included with the nomination forms. I emailed them a few days ago, but kind of doubt I'll get a response... Once I have some actual content written up for my pet project (Paul Schweikher House and Studio - it's what basically got me into this) I'll definitely ask you to go over it.G LeTourneau 20:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs massacre
Hey there, sorry long time no see. I see RSM made it to FA, congrats!! Ah the memories of GAC... Anyway, I'm back from my exam and no-internet imposed wikibreak, and realise I'm too late to help on RSM. I'm loath to touch it as it is now FA, but anything you want done in a copyediting way, let me know! Hope things are going well for you. Cricketgirl 07:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

GA review for Battle of Wisconsin Heights
Thanks for the feedback. IMO, any article, even those such as this one that are within the context of a larger campaign, ought to be able to stand as a complete article in its own right. My intention was to provide a context for the battle, as the Prelude section originally started with Black Hawk's band fleeing from the militia. Being unfamiliar with the subject I had no framework to place the battle in, unless I was prepared to chase down the other wikilinks (to Black Hawk War etc). Ideally I think a reader should be able to get enough information from the article itself that they can decide whether or not to follow up further articles - but they should not be forced to do so by lack of important information. For example, although not a GA see the Prelude section of Battle of the Little Bighorn - like Wisconsin Heights, part of a larger campaign, but a fairly detailed background is given.

Having said that, I may have overdone it - it's not an easy subject to briefly summarise ;) I can get a second opinion if you like; as a relatively new GA reviewer I'm still learning the ropes myself. Regards, EyeSereneTALK 20:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No problems at all with you improving my efforts - please go ahead! I took most of it from the other articles anyway (mainly Black Hawk War), and re-used the citations there too. I do admit that it's a potential problem where, like here, there are lots of articles on battles within a campaign, and it could lead to the Prelude sections of each articles being repetitive, but I don't really see any other way around this issue as a reader can potentially arrive at any article without reading the main one first.
 * You've done a great job with the subject so far. The story of the doomed native American cutlures during North American settlement has always been an area that's interested me - I suppose we Brits have a congenital soft spot for the underdog ;) I'll look forward to revisiting the article soon. Regards, EyeSereneTALK 20:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Black Hawk Map
Thanks - it looks very nice and provides useful information and ideas. One concern I have is that the largest maps here are displayed perhaps 300 to 400 pixels wide, so a very detailed map might look very busy at that resolution. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought the maps in Third Servile War (FA, on the Main Page last month) were nicely done. There are six maps- first they had one showing general locations, then an initial battle map with an inset, then three showing different stages of the war with troop movements with the same background, then a map of the end battles on a much smaller scale. Maybe there could be one background with a map of all the important locations (forts, villages, and battles marked), then maybe one or two showing Black Hawk's movements and the two groups of US armed forces pursuing him? I think it would be best to have the same background (IL and what became WI with a bit of future IA) for all the maps. Feel free to move / copy this and the talk on my page to the project talk page, if you want. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Re Black Hawk
Thanks for the info - even better when there's a local connection to the history. I did wonder, whilst I was reviewing, if the Black Hawk helicopter had been named with the historical figure in mind. I also vaguely recall reading once about a Black Hawk lake in Sac County, Iowa - presumably 'Sac' is a variant on 'Sauk'? EyeSereneTALK 21:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice to know - cheers. It's interesting how in the UK there was a trend a while back of debunking popular folk heroes (like Robin Hood, Dick Turpin etc) to uncover the 'real person', warts and all... and some historians seem to prefer to concentrate on the warts; whereas people like Black Hawk have gone the other way from villains to folk heroes. EyeSereneTALK 22:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As I believe you say in your part of the world: ain't that the truth ;) EyeSereneTALK 22:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Wisconsin Heights
I'll have a look at this when I get home tonight (in about 12 hours). Cricketgirl 23:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've changed the intro slightly to make it, I hope, a little clearer. Please check this to make sure it still says what you want it to. I'm on to the second paragraph now. Cricketgirl 13:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * All done. Please check that I haven't distorted any meanings! I've posted at LoCE for a proofreader, but they are a little swamped over there so I doubt anyone will pick it up - if you want it proofed, probably best to give a previous colleague a nudge. Cricketgirl 13:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No trouble at all. Let me know if you're in need of copyediting services on anything else - I probably won't be around much on the weekend, but after that definitely. Congrats on the GA! Cricketgirl 00:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

GA Re-review
OK, thanks for the heads-up. Heading there now. EyeSereneTALK 20:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass
Congratulations on an excellent copyedit on the suggestions provided. I now have no hesitation in passing Battle of Wisconsin Heights as a Good Article, and have updated the templates on the article talk page. You are quite right about the corrections to my proofread - should have spotted those. Thanks!

You may wish to copy the following template:   and paste it to somewhere suitable (such as your user page). It will produce the following userbox   and add you to the category "Good Article contributors"... although I see you've already got quite a few of these under your belt ;) Well done EyeSereneTALK 22:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your kind remarks. It's been a pleasure for me too - it's great to meet an editor who is as meticulous about sourcing and accuracy as they are about content. Hope to run across you again soon - all the best! EyeSereneTALK 22:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The good article medal
I was looking through the service awards and I saw that the medal that you created, The good article medal of merit, has a missing name so it can't be awarded. Just letting you know.--Simpsons fan 66 01:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for fixing that up. There are heaps of awards on that page that dont have any code. I want to make all those awards available with the proper barnstar style template. Do you know how to fix them?
 * Ok I figured out how to do it and i fixed up one of the barnstars that didnt have a code. Thanks for your help! --Simpsons fan 66 05:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Prairie School
I responded on my talk page. The upshot is thanks for letting me know. That's what I get for jumping to the conclusion that everything Wright did was Prairie School. Thanks again (and for being so polite about it!) Americasroof 12:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Aquinas College, Perth
Hey, i was wondering if you could help with the captions on this article. I have read WP:CAPTIONS and tried to address the issue, could you give some thoughts, thanks alot. Twenty Years 16:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Love the edit
Thank you for your input on User talk:Auroranorth. I was wondering if you had any ideas on Speers Point, New South Wales? It's a work in progress. Auroranorth 11:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Blue Mounds
I think an image of a Ho-chunk warrior would be a nice addition to the piece but not in the ifobox, which should contain an image either of a depiction of the battle (which is understandably unlikely) or a photograph of the battlefield/fort today if one is possible. I suggest putting the Ho-chink warrior image lower doen the page. Either way, its still a nice article and I wouldn't be too worried about it. All the best--Jackyd101 11:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Barnstars...
Thank you very much! :-) Kirill 17:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thank you for your, uh, blunt expression of support. :D Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Ghostbusters
I really wanted to be bold and make this article work, and I thought I would suck up most of the rest of the ghostbusters articles, and simultaneously improve them all. I know, very bold or even reckless, but I think I may be able to make it stick with some help. Oh by the way, you could review the Ghostbuster Building article, give me some guidance on fixing it up. Judgesurreal777 08:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Top Importance
Did you have any opinion on which articles should be nominated for consideration in the next set of Category:Top-importance Chicago articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chicago/Assessment? We will need to choose 3 or 4 more soon.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Indeed, I will be the article monkey and you can be the DYK/GAC monkey, for now. : ) IvoShandor 08:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Shall we swap around next week? I have a few articles in the bank.... Blnguyen  ( bananabucket )

Thanks for the review on Buffalo Grove ambush. I made a comment about your concerns on the talk page. Basically I am working on filling out details and expanding if possible. I don't think anyone would want to merge it, but who knows. Thanks again. : ) IvoShandor 06:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, a two for one deal. Thanks again. Hopefully these articles will progress as my research deepens. Anything off hand besides expansion that you would suggest to improve them? IvoShandor 08:03, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well no, unless you can find more sources......or unless you gone down to the site and do some OR and interview the Indians for their POV and write it up yourself in a published book.... Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 09:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Swap away, if you need any GA reviews I will help out, I used to do them quite a bit and have probably done about 30 all total. Thanks for allowing Indian Creek to get on DYK, that's another GA appearing on the front page for me! I am not sure that Balloonman has been making appropriate comments about the nominations, just FYI. IvoShandor 20:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, well 1955 State of Vietnam referendum is in there at the moment....Arrest and assassination of Ngô Đình Diệm should be coming soon.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 03:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * We should do a count of "most DYKs on a given small topic"......... Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Did you mean this one just a minute ago, or the one at 3.38 about Vietnam???  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 09:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe I should shop somewhere else then ...... :)  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 09:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, the book idea had occurred to me, but my incomplete history degree may not be the credentials I need to be taken seriously ; ) IvoShandor 20:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Random Smile!


WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. -WarthogDemon 00:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

spafford field
this is a shot of the field, the cemetary with marker is on the wooded hill in the background. Pecatonica creek is directly behind 180 deg from the FOV. enjoy! rattis_irrittis

Chicago Meetup
I hope the time and place for the Chicago Meetup are convenient. Your reply would be appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I dropped you an email about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 18:55, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Kinzua Bridge and Allegheny Forest streams
Hi Ivo, I think some free color images of the intact Kinzua Bridge would be great - I have scanned a few paper photos and find if I just set the resolution (dpi) as high as I can, the quality is pretty good. I have been adding Commonscat to some articles (which idea I stole from you - thanks).

I finally checked my PA Gazetteer of Streams II, which lists streams with watersheds larger than 25 square miles. In the upper Allegheny River basin in PA, the following are listed (you had also mentioned pictures of some streams in the Allegheny National Forest): Mill Creek, Allegheny Portage Creek, Potato Creek (and its Marvin Creek and Cole Creek tribs), Knapp Creek, Oswayo Creek (and its trib Honeoye Creek), Tunungwant Creek (and its E and W Branches), Willow Creek, Sugar Run, Kinzua Creek (and its tribs South Br Kinzua Creek and Chappel Fork), Conewango Creek (and tribs Akeley Run and Jackson Run), Brokenstraw Creek (and its tribs Coffee Creek, Hare Creek, Spring Creek, Little Brokenstraw Creek), East Hickory Creek, Tionensta Creek (and its tribs Twomile Run, East Branch TC, South Branch TC, Salmon Creek, Coon Creek, West Branch TC), Hemlock Creek, Pithole Creek, Oil Creek and we seem to be out of the possible Forest counties.

Hope this helps, ask if unclear, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK
I know you have done some great DYK research. I would like to be able to follow along. Is it possible to request a DYK section on your user page?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have found User:IvoShandor/submissions, but it can't be current. You seem to have like 50-75 DYKs in my mind.  Is User:IvoShandor/submissions current?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK: Stillman Creek (Illinois)

 * }Howdy again.....and well done on teh pictured slot...and nobody has given me my DYK stamp for Cable 243 yet... :(.  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 08:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Reviewed content
I am trying to figure out how to rearrange the WikiProject_Chicago section now that we are finding so many articles that have been WP:FA and WP:GA for a long time. I was thinking about three options.


 * 1) Just include the newly discovered articles in the alphabetical list. (the old way)
 * 2) Include the newly discovered articles both in the alphabetical list and in a separate newly discovered list. (the new way)
 * 3) Rearrange the new articles list to be listed by date the article was promoted within WP:CHICAGO instead of the WP promotion date (see here). What do you think?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

William S. Hamilton
If you have sources which are as reliable as Alexander Hamilton's biographers (not a really high bar) and which assert paternity positively and without waffling, please do include them; I've answered your contribution on talk.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Top importance voting
You have participated in decision on Top importance in the past. You may be interested in voting for the next batch of nominees. Let the voting begin (see WikiProject_Chicago/Assessment).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:25, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Nireah Johnson
I've gotten at least one message threatening that story with deletion on grounds of notability. I've read the notability guidelines, and I've seen nothing there that says it means a hate crime must have received widespread coverage, involved a high profile victim, been the first of its kind, inspired huge protests, or caused new laws to be written. But those are the criteria that have been used to suggest that two of the most recent articles I've submitted about hate crimes victims be deledted.

How subjective is notability on Wikipedia? TerranceDC 20:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Attitude
Did I piss you off? It seems that the only time I hear from you these days is about a disagreement. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 01:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The Powers comments are welcome. I will try to make some fixes today.  The COTW comments seemed a little snarky.  I will try to trim when I get a chance. I have been trying to modify CUR-CHICOTW.  I still think it is better than underconstruction, which is an article space template as I understand it.  The home (sports) debate seemed illogical to me.  I think you are wrong on this one.  However, all that aside you are a tremendously productive contributor and would hope to entice you to be more active rather than less.  I have been trying to get you to add to our votes at WikiProject_Chicago/Assessment and still hope to see you there.  I also continue to welcome you to WP:CHICOTW and its collaborations.  We need all hands on deck at WP:CHICAGO and you have good hands.  Keep coming.  I was more worried than anything else about being blindsided at WP:RFA given all the disagreements we have because I will probably make another run in the next few weeks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 16:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstars
I envy your barnstar collection. Not only have I been put on a strict diet with no cookies. I am left to wonder who I have to sleep with to get the DYK and GA barnstars.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Yeah, it was kind of a joke nickname at point, but it stuck and I use it everywhere now. I've even gone so far as to register wyattriot.com as my website. :) Wyatt Riot 07:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not in a band at the moment, at least not one that actually does anything. Working on it, though. Wyatt Riot 07:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:HBGIL s4.jpg
Eh, actually, you have a point, plus the image isn't helpful. All tagging it as REFU would do is just delay its deletion by two days. I've speedied it. --Core desat 08:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)