User talk:J3Mrs/Archive 6

Churchill Machine Tool Company
Hi, you've put a lot of work into copyediting the above article today, sorting out (mostly my) tedious prose etc. It had already gone through a successful GA review and then a peer review & so at first I was a bit curious. But, hey, it is better for your efforts & so well done. The entire subject was a nightmare to write up and doubtless it was a nightmare to ce also! There will be further significant changes in the next few days as I plough through the peer review comments but hopefully soon it will be on its way to FAC. - Sitush (talk) 00:33, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Glad you think it helped. :-)--J3Mrs (talk) 08:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Former Reform Club, Manchester
You're right, I think, but I'm not quite sure how to change a title. If you could do it, I'll then change the links in Grade II* listed in Manchester etc. And I've taken a bit from "The Builder". Regards. KJP1 (talk) 14:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Done! Nice to see an editor contributing some interesting material to the Greater Manchester articles.--J3Mrs (talk) 15:14, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Many thanks. I just go straight from the Grade II* listed Buildings in Greater Manchester page to create new articles and wasn't sure how to change the title once the page is "set".  And you're right it's much better.  Victorian architecture's my hobby and with Manchester stuffed with so much, it's no pain to contribute to extending the wikipedia coverage.  Best regards.  KJP1 (talk) 15:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Listed buildings in Rivington
With thanks, have added a reference to the bibliography, which didn't seem to be cited. It's a great book with many fabulous pictures of Rivington. Have tried to do "Citation" properly, hope I got it right. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 20:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I am aware of the book but did not use it to write the article so unfortunately it's not needed. Only books cited in the text should go in the bibliography. Thanks for taking an interest though. I assessed a couple of your stubs to start class and would suggest you might find some pics on the Geograph website.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

City of Bradford
As you are keeping an eye on the Bradford article thought that you may be interested in commenting on the City of Bradford article's possible rename and another suggestion to merge with Bradford article. Keith D (talk) 17:25, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a pilot study
I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to a short survey. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates only 5 minutes. cooldenny (talk) 19:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Need your expertise
With others I've been working on Maggie Thatcher's article, and I'm trying to address some observations left by Ealdgyth on the article's talk page. One in particular I'm uncertain about, and I thought you might be able to help. The article presently says this: "The government closed 25 unprofitable pits in 1985; by 1992, a total of 97 pits had been closed...". Ealdgyth asks "is there a need to use the Brit 'pits' here, instead of the internationally understood 'mines? I have a vague memory that pit and mine aren't necessarily synonymous, "pits" being the holes dug in the ground and "mines" being the collieries, each of which could contain many pits. Am I misremembering? Would it be better/more accurate to say that the government closed 25 unprofitable collieries rather than pits? Help! Malleus Fatuorum 17:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * In my very humble opinion I think pits is a bit colloquial, colliery or coal mine is probably prefereable. the press however did refer to pits. Mine can refer to other types of mining. I would probably go with colliery.--J3Mrs (talk) 19:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Now I'm feeling uncertain as even the BBC called them Pit closures which is what they were commonly known as in the UK. :-(--J3Mrs (talk) 19:45, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Would it be incorrect to call them coal mines? I have a nagging feeling that "mine" and "pit" mean different things in different parts of the world. I'm confused. Malleus Fatuorum 19:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * It would be fine to call them coal mines. Are you confusing mine and seam? They mean the same in Lancashire.--J3Mrs (talk) 20:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I must be, but I'm so confused that I'm not even sure what I'm confused about. Coal mines it is then, thanks. Malleus Fatuorum 20:22, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Heritage Gateway
Hi. I've added some thoughts on the Heritage Gateway links situation at Peter's talk page: see here. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  21:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I've read it and will change the urls when I've found them. Nothing is simple is it?--J3Mrs (talk) 10:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK Walkden
Hi your DKY submission for Walkden is not suitable it was first created in 2006 and has not been expanded x5 Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:34, 27 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I haven't submitted any DYKs.--J3Mrs (talk) 08:35, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Escowbeck - Your reference is outdated by at least 160 years!
The reference that you provided for Escowbeck is well out dated, as the map shows "Map of Boundaries before 1850" maybe in history it was part of the Quernmore Parish but the House is most certainly classed as Caton today! It has been Caton since at least 1937 as it was stated in the reference I provided that you removed. Even the property sale websites for the Escowbeck state it is in Caton and not Quernmore, maybe you should read your references and see how out dated this one is! 92.16.47.150 (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Escowbeck was always close to Caton but the ref you provided gives no indication that the boundaries have changed. Who is to say that a commercial site is a reliable reference? Your editing style is very familiar.--J3Mrs (talk) 13:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm familiar... eh? This commercial site is very reliable hence the information provided has come with the items for sale, which i can second is true, not that makes a difference i know, anyway whats to say the boundaries havent changed? try typing Escowbeck into google, it comes up with Lancaster and Caton and not Quernmore cause it is not commonly associated with nor near that village at all, it may be on the northern edge of Quernmore Park but that doesnt mean it is in Quernmore which in that wiki link states "Quernmore is a village and civil parish in the City of Lancaster in Lancashire, England" (Which also may i point out is not in the City of Lancaster but on the outskirts of the city) Also I quote you saying Escowbeck is near Caton hence why it should remain in the article as near Caton. Your reference is still outdated by 160 years, maybe get an upto date one? I know that they are hard to find, but reliable sources for boundaries are the more modern ones. 92.16.47.150 (talk) 13:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Go away--J3Mrs (talk) 14:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I refer you to now go and play somewhere else.--J3Mrs (talk) 14:34, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Haha nice one! 78.144.133.161 (talk) 18:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, hope you doing ok. I've popped-in on Wikipedia recently, mainly with the Bolton Council election, 2011 page. I noticed 'our friend' has added the descent of Elizabeth Shaw, née Willoughby on the Baron Willoughby of Parham. None of the descendents of any other females have been included and so removed Elizabeth Shaw descendents; who happen to be 'our friend's' ancestors. I've done some other edits on that page, mainly full dates. I'll be popping-in from time-to-time, but not as active as I was in the past. Regards HLE (talk) 16:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You too! Good to see you back. He hasn't declared himself Lord yet.--J3Mrs (talk) 17:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

RFC discussion of User:Philip Baird Shearer
A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of. You are invited to comment on the discussion at    :Requests for comment/Philip Baird Shearer. -- Parrot of Doom 10:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Citation needed?
When you edit away vasts amount of material from articles it can appear as vandalism, especially when you also leave 'citation needed' where before your edit the same sentence had the citation. I am responding to your talk entry here, please be careful when editing.--PL.-Snr (talk) 23:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

As I said on your talk page, use Twinkle to vandalise a page in that way again and I will report you.--J3Mrs (talk) 23:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * it was not vandalism, you know that, * Be polite * Assume good faith * Avoid personal attacks * Be welcoming, I shall not argue with you, but don't troll and please leave articles in a tidy state. Your edits were not moving the article forward. End of topic, no reponse needed --PL.-Snr (talk) 23:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * In response to message left on my talk page, ::There after the flood of edits, before your edit it was not there, after your edits it was, apologies if I am mistaken, bye the way can you check the facts on the statement I am writing about, I have seen conflcting sources? --PL.-Snr (talk) 23:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Pike article

 * Response on article talk page.


 * Please go to the talk pages of any articles where we meet and let me know to discuss there, aim of moving articles forward, but keeping important parts in, constructive editing, not accusing the other of vandalism if you don't agree with the edit, instead please talk about the article with me if on its talk page if I am an editor there, without resorting to personal attacks, reverting edits on pages where I have edited or created the page and where you would not normally have any interest can seem a lot like hounding.--PL.-Snr (talk) 12:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ps You have a message on Talk page, Rivington Pike--PL.-Snr (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Please clarify exactly what you mean by this; " reverting edits on pages where I have edited or created the page and where you would not normally have any interest can seem a lot like hounding". For your information I watchlist many articles including most I have contributed to and read many links on those pages. If I come across something that needs editing, I edit it whoever started it or contributed to it. I never leave an article in worse shape than I found it and I often find references and certainly have never vandalised. Precisely what do you have a problem with? Pages I have started or edited have had to be protected from IPs, you have never had that problem. The edits you made earlier today were simply not constructive as was an edit you made with twinkle to another article which I copyedited because there was a tag on it. Stop telling me to assume good faith and the rest of the stuff you quote at me, if I find vandalism I will change it and remember "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here."--J3Mrs (talk) 13:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * In response to the message you left on my page, I do not think it is your place to tell me not to be part of wikipedia.--PL.-Snr (talk) 14:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Your reading skills leave much to be desired. I notice you are unable to answer the question.--J3Mrs (talk) 14:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Those four things, Be polite, Assume good faith, Avoid personal attacks, Be welcoming, I didn't see the word DO NOT in front of each. Being polite would be welcome when you message me or leave comments in edit boxes, avoiding post personal attacks would be a nice change from you, some time ago I suggested we go to third party as you had been edit warring, you have hounded its in the history of articles and talk pages, you continue even today to add personal attacks in edit box or on talk pages. For almost a year you have my reverted, by text revert or a undo, when sourced and cited correctly. Each time I think that maybe you are going to stop edit wars and hounding with personal attacks you start again, even to the point of accusing me of vandalism - on articles I created, what on earth makes you think you can accuse someone of vandalising an article the same person created, is it not obvious a good faith edit! Its obvious to me you do not like others editing articles. Yes articles are out there for editing and impoving, but not just by you there are other users to, is it your stated aim now to drive me off wikipedia for good, is it your clear intention to make my editing Wikipedia unpleasant, to undermine and discourage me from editing entirely.--PL.-Snr (talk) 15:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

This page is a whinge free zone. What you don't realise is that you could be describing yourself.--J3Mrs (talk) 15:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

To make it clear, even if you start an article you can vandalise it by reverting edits that improve it. I have no aims other than to improve the quality of content.--J3Mrs (talk) 15:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

And I might add that when I log onto wikipedia and look at my watchlist only to see the decimation of an article, as I have done twice this week, I feel obliged to revert the vandalism. You entreat me to AGF, discuss on talk pages, show me where you did that before you unilaterally took it upon yourself to "improve" any articles this week. Nobody is going to revert improvements.--J3Mrs (talk) 16:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Ow, my shins
Hi, I just saw your comment about sourcing for Shin-kicking on Malleus' page. I'd love any help I can get with sourcing, if it isn't too much work for you to dig it up. Qrsdogg (talk) 22:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll add something when I get home--J3Mrs (talk) 06:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, thanks. Qrsdogg (talk) 14:13, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Get home Friday or Saturday, sorry--J3Mrs (talk) 21:10, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I'm not sure when I will do this now, overtaken by events.--J3Mrs (talk) 14:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Understandable, I know the feeling! Qrsdogg (talk) 15:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

A suggestion
You're in the wars a bit over this Lancashire nonsense. I know what that feels like, and I know that with your mother's recent death you could probably do without it.

Why not ask a friendly admin to semi-protect this page? I'd do it myself if I had the power, but as you know I have even fewer powers here than you do. Malleus Fatuorum 23:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I know you would :-) I looked to see if Nev1 was about but unfortunately not. I frankly don't care. I've been given a nice little book about tin churches so whoever it is can get on with childish nonsense while I find out something interesting about a vanishing bit of our heritage.:-) --J3Mrs (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * There's a tin church just down from the road from me, St Antony's, and I find it fascinating although I've never managed to get there when it's been open. There's something about the sunlight that makes my skin start to burn, and that cross is rather disturbing ... anyway ... I'll try and recruit a friendly admin. Malleus Fatuorum 23:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I know I was looking up a reference. It's in my next and last edit for tonight. I saw a rather nice one in Cadgwith in Cornwall earlier this year. You are very kind but I won't tell, I wouldn't like to ruin your reputation. Thank you.--J3Mrs (talk) 23:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Obviously, if you tell then I'll have to kill you. In other news this page is now semi-protected, so you can get back to work. More seriously, I'm of an age when I too am losing friends and family, and I know that it's not something you can ever get used to, or understand how hard it hits you until it happens. Malleus Fatuorum 00:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * In respect of tin churches, are you aware of the article Tin tabernacle? There's a tin (iron) church in Frodsham, not worthy of an article in its own right, but mentioned here. (Sorry to hear about your mother.) --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've hopefully started to improve the tin tabernacle article. I wasn't aware of the Frodsham one but am now!. Thank you Peter.--J3Mrs (talk) 08:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Just a heads up there is an old tin church in Mere Brow in Lancashire but it is more of an old shed type building but historically it was used as a church and was the first one in mere brow before the present methodist church was built, it is situated in the garden next to the present methodist church... i will try and find a reference for it :) JMRH6 (talk) 09:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how far you want to take this article. If you need it, there's info about the Frodsham example here. You may already have found this, which itself includes links to photos of rather a lot of tin tabernacles. Could keep you busy for months! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)


 * How long is a piece of string? I never "finish" anything these days but I am rather fascinated by these unusual little structures. I just like adding to the useless stuff I sort of know. I think the article is better than it was which sometimes is all that matters. Thanks for your help which is always appreciated. Feel free to add more if you come across them. I still haven't added Cadgwith, looking for a good ref.--J3Mrs (talk) 13:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Bradford
Thanks. Just getting back into the swing as, after a prolonged break, I'm ridiculously "rusty". I've noticed that you have made a lot of improvements to articles. Great work!! I think Bradford and Wakefield could be improved to get GA fairly soon. Drop me a line if you need anything.--Harkey (talk) 08:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Bradford's a long way off imo.--J3Mrs (talk) 08:33, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, but a lot of the info is there (or is easily found). It does need a bit more TLC and less POV from some random IP editors, though!!!--Harkey (talk) 08:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi,Is it my insert of the Bronte Sisters into the notable Bradfordian list,they were on the longer notable Bradfordian list,i tried to add a piece into the landmark section a while back but i couldn't get their birth place included... didn't think there was any problem with the sisters being included into the notable Bradfordian list on the Bradford page.Obviously i'd like to see them on it.The first three lines on the Bradford economy section seem odd,any thoughts ,the decline of the Textile industry seems to be mentioned else where,but its the sentence that follows it that seems out of place,i thought the original was far better going straight into Bradford having the third largest economy in Yorkshire and Humberside after Leeds and Sheffield,my insert of the (City's) Jewish community also keeps getting removed,which seems a strange .BradfordPal1 (talk) 21:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The Brontes don't belong anywhere in the article, neither do chunks copied from the Salt article. City is not reqired in religion it's about the city so it's not necessary. I've lost interest.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

It seems like the Brontes did belong in the Notable Bradfordians page for as long as i've looked on the page which granted isn't that long,although i do seem to recollect them being on the notable Bradfordians list a couple of years ago when i first read the page.Can't agree about the insert about Titus Salt's effort to cut the pollution in the town.That's hardly a chunk and it was a piece the T& A published a few days ago.I take your point about the City's Jewish insert.Personally,i'll never lose interest in what is fair and right in regards to Bradford,the Bradford wikipedia page has improved without doubtBradfordPal1 (talk) 22:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

As long as you continue your disruptive editing I will ignore the page. --J3Mrs (talk) 22:25, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Haigh Hall
"I really don't know why I edit. It's not even about the hall." - Talk Page awaiting your input. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:36, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Lost interest.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Shame, I was expecting a proper discussion. But glad you're not being stuffy. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Leverhulme
Further to your message, I can see no reason why you are constantly editing out that William Hesketh Lever moved out of Bolton. The fact that his son was born elsewhere does not in itself establish the family had moved, Leverhulme travelled. The family did however move to Thornton Hough in 1888 and it is cited. I suspect you may not like the idea Leverhulme moved, I can see no other reason for your constant blocking of that information. As for editing out that he moved his sister, brother and father moved out of Bolton to Thornton Hough - your reasons are your own - they are not compatible with the aim of completing a biography. As to your comments that the such information belongs in a 'Womens magazine' do you not think that is pretty sexist! --PL.-Snr (talk) 18:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * My edits improve the article without stating the .....obvious. Yours don't, the style is.... well badly phrased, poorly punctuated and frequently doesn't make sense. Other bits read like a womens' magazine, what more can I say? Don't try to read my mind, you wouldn't like what you read. I don't think it's me who is incompatible or indeed sexist. And... I don't feel the need to hide my messages.--J3Mrs (talk) 18:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * PS, You still don't get it do you?--J3Mrs (talk) 18:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * none of the above give you any excuse to suppress fact for the sake of it. Womens mag! your attitude stinks. You cannot change history, live with it and move on. --PL.-Snr (talk) 19:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Bluster away. Nobody disputes Lever moved to Cheshire!?! What I object to is your rambling writing style filled with insignificant trivia and non notable personalities which is badly written in a rambling repetitive style about insignificant people and trivial details. Is that clear enough or should I ramble through it again?

Urbis
Sorry - if its been deleted its completely unintentional. There was a paragraph which was removed so I added it back in. It may have deleted some of your copyedit - apologies if it has.. The write up I did for Urbis was scruffy and rushed. I wanted to jot down the refs I've collated then improve the write up. Regards. Stevo1000 (talk) 18:39, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And I'll note down changes in the edit summary if you wish considering you are improving the article simultaneously. Stevo1000 (talk) 18:40, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you are a meticulous editor, more than the majority of editors. Out of interest, have you got any improvement plans for Urbis? I do think that it is worth getting the page to GA status. I was thinking to get rid of the list-like format that exists in the exhibit history section and replace it with text briefly explaining each exhibition. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I am just a grumpy oldie who knows how to write a sentence. A relative mentioned a glass building so I looked to see what it was....and wasn't impressed. It's a long way from GA and I have no interest in getting it there.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hope it's ok to butt in... anyway I think ditching the list format for the exhibitions is a step in the right direction, but where to go from there I'm not too sure. It seems to have hosted in the region of 40 exhibits, and explaining each one would be a lot of prose. Are they all really worth a sentence? Maybe the notable ones should be highlighted, but then there's the editorial choice of which ones are 'notable'. I wonder how many of those exhibitions were award winning. Nev1 (talk) 15:45, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Haigh Hall
The DYK project (nominate) 08:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice work. Maybe you could add more entries to List of country houses in the United Kingdom?♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

GM Churches
Hi. I've just written St John the Evangelist's Church, Farnworth and I hope you do not feel that I am encroaching on your "territory". I'm trying to write articles for the churches in List of ecclesiastical works by Paley and Austin and in List of Commissioners' churches in Northeast and Northwest England (it so happens that this church appears in both lists). If you are happy with my writing more GM church articles in the future, fine; if you are not, let me know and I'll leave them to you.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Not my territory at all, just a neglected bit of industrial Lancashire nobody else seems very interested in. Edit away, you could never step on my toes. Atherton had three such churches, one closed and was converted to flats.--J3Mrs (talk) 14:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

--J3Mrs (talk) 11:02, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
Thanks for uploading so many good photos to Wikipedia. It would be helpful if you could upload these to Wikimedia Commons in future. This will allow other projects (i.e. version of Wikipedia written in languages other than English) to use your pictures. The process on Wikimedia Commons is very similar to Wikipedia, but let me know if you need any help. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no intention of uploading to the commons as I find what I do simpler and easier to understand. --J3Mrs (talk) 09:54, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 10:29, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I see you ignored my request.--J3Mrs (talk) 10:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What request? I didn't interpret the message you left on my talk page as requesting me not to move them, merely that you think doing so is unnecessary. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 10:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you interpreted incorrectly, please do not move any more.--J3Mrs (talk) 10:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to intrude in this, but I always look first on Commons for photos to illustrate my articles. It couldn't be easier to use; you just put the Commons file name in the usual pairs of square brackets, and it's there.  So it would make your pics more available to me (and others).  But how to upload them, I don't know, but I would accept help.  Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:54, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The upload page for self-made pictures on Wikimedia Commons is here. On Wikimedia Commons it is necessary to categorise images: this can be a bit of a chore, but I find that the HotCat tool makes things a lot easier: it can be enabled in the 'Gadgets' section of 'My Preferences'. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 11:01, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I have seen the Commons upload page, that is how I know I find it confusing so please don't point out the obvious to me, it is not appreciated. I don't use any "gadgets" and am bored by categories, I just edit things I am interested in. I really don't appreciate your "help" at all.--J3Mrs (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That comment was aimed more at Peter I. Vardy (and anyone else reading this) than you. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 11:13, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Go away and " help" someone else, this is my talk page and I found it patronising.--J3Mrs (talk) 11:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't usually disagree with you Peter, but I will not use the Commons as I cannot upload a photograph to it without getting a rude message. I upload stuff to pages I am interested in and that, as far as I am concerned is as far as I wish to proceed. Even after all these edits I remain mostly amazed I've got something right, I am three times older than most users and this old dog doesn't wish to learn any new tricks.
 * Fair enough; it's no big deal. (But I bet I can match you in birthdays!) --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:57, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Defaultsort
Hi. Just wondered if you have any comment to make on this. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * As someone who is completely mesmerised by the category system, I'll have to think about it for a bit, but I'll get back to you.--J3Mrs (talk) 10:01, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

TV Referencing and "promoting"

 * I thought i best bring this from Talk: Bank Hall to your page. If stating the facts and adding factual information is classed as promoting a topic then I guess half of wikipedia needs to be removed then... I and past editiors you mention have tried to add information that we know well and even provided references for, but cause it mentions two certain words in it and you dont know anything about it, then you think it is trying to promote it... so you remove it... i just wish someone would do this to you! you obviously have a big hang up about something. JMRH6 (talk) 21:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

As has been said many times historic counties exist
Bolton,Bury and other surrounding Boroughs are still part of the historic county of Lancashire,they are part of the county palatine of lancashire.i dont know what your trying to prove as you will not change my views on this,anyway i dont know what your trying to prove as everyone knows bolton and bury are still in lancashire,everyone knows wikipedia is incorrect and is not a good source of information on counties — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.102.193 (talk) 20:57, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Rather believe the government over members of public
anyway the government says bolton and bury are still in Lancashire,so i think i would rather trust someone who is in charge of the country rather than just a member of public and they re opinions thank you  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.102.193 (talk) 21:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * May I say to the anonymous author of the previous two comments that if s/he thinks that Wikipedia is incorrect, the discussion about this point should be carried out elsewhere. It is not appropriate to continue on this page.  Thank you. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Helpful insight
I think its best to not feed the trolls. I have had the same problem with that user on my talk page. Take care, AJona1992 (talk) 21:34, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll bear that in mind.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Np. AJona1992 (talk) 22:04, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

To fib, or not to fib
It's hard to find a GA article that you actually nominated and took through a review. Could you help?--andreasegde (talk) 22:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Not so hard, I can think of several. Here's one, for instance. Malleus Fatuorum 23:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit?
"the name "Stanks" is derives from a French word". Spot the mistake?--andreasegde (talk) 21:15, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

1. "He died at Seacroft Hall in 1931, having previously been an M.A., Barrister at Law, Justice of the peace, and a Captain in the Yorkshire Hussars."

2. "He was an M.A., Barrister at Law, Justice of the peace, and a Captain in the Yorkshire Hussars and died at Seacroft Hall in 1931." What are you doing?--andreasegde (talk) 21:52, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Your edits are amateur, and are seriously harming the Swarcliffe article. I know people are supposed to be ultra-polite here, but you really don't know what you are doing. If anyone reading this disagrees with me, just look at the article, and decide for yourself. This user is being destructive.--andreasegde (talk) 22:03, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Swarcliffe
Congratulations on a string of helpful edits. The editor who has done much of the work on this has obviously done a fantastic amount of research, but seems to have some problems putting it into clear English. (To say nothing of problems of working collaboratively etc... !) PamD (talk) 13:44, 9 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I agree, It's a lot of work on a difficult subject but a pity the editor can't accept help or advice. Settlement articles aren't easiest.

Sandbox
It does it with mine as well. Maybe the template links to the user who clicks on it.--Harkey (talk) 21:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad it's not just me, I have no idea about how this thing works really :-) I like the Geography section, there's probably more that should go in it.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I want to put a little bit in about geology, etc. Came to a dead halt when researching "Inhabitants" section. See .--Harkey (talk) 22:02, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I can see why.--J3Mrs (talk) 22:18, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Saw your post elsewhere. The code is and the WP page is found at Template:My sandbox.  The system automatically pulls up the sandbox of whatever editor is reading the page, so for me it pulls up the Shearonink/sandbox, for J3Mrs, it pulls up J3Mrs/sandbox and so on.  Personally I think it's kind of confusing.--Shearonink (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for troubling to explain.--J3Mrs (talk) 22:24, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Another mistake
This one will be corrected: "The Leeds to Wetherby Railway, passed under the turnpike road and had a station at Scholes." As you do not know the area, the train line passed over the road via a bridge.--andreasegde (talk) 16:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

"The Leeds to Wetherby Railway, passed over the turnpike and had a station at Scholes." This is very, very wrong. The railway passed over Barwick Road in Stanks, and then went to Scholes. After that it went under the York Road, but by then it was in the area of Scholes. You also haven't researched the fact that there was a small station on Pendas Way.--andreasegde (talk) 17:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal
Hello,

Just to let you know, I will be mediating the Swarcliffe mediation case. I have a few opening questions for you, so if you could please answer them on the mediation page, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Robotnick2 Messages? 10:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I have no interest in this whatsoever. Please don't post here about this again.--J3Mrs (talk) 11:45, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It is fundamental to the process, Robotnick2, that both parties agree to the mediation before the case is opened: "If an editor requests mediation and is doing so only to prove a point, or knows that the other parties don't want mediation, or is trying to force another editor to listen, we may outright decline the case." This is clearly one of those cases that ought to have been declined. Malleus Fatuorum 16:31, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Robotnick2 is a very inexperienced editor with only a handful of edits!! and the editor who has spent so much time and effort complaining is now removing his reasons for complaint. Rather pathetic isn't it?--J3Mrs (talk) 17:18, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * ... and only 13 or 14 years old according to his user page. Malleus Fatuorum 18:05, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, why the hell is a district of Leeds so controversial. --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  18:24, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Malleus, I wasn't aware that page existed; I will remember it in the future. J3Mrs, I hardly think that my number of edits is in any way related to my mediation abilities. Likewise, my age (15, for the record), has no bearing on the matter.
 * Malleus, could you please advise on the steps to take to close/reject the mediation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotnick2 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * For Robotnick2's information, I think a mediator should have sufficient edits to show some degree of competence. I'm afraid you don't, in any area of Wikipedia as far as I can see. Perhaps you should try editing articles rather than getting involved in something you have no experience in and know nothing about.--J3Mrs (talk) 18:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * J3Mrs, you would rather that I edit articles that I have no experience in and know nothing about, than get involved in something that I actually do have experience in? Robotnick2 Messages? 19:22, 24 August 2011 (UTC)