User talk:JCarriker/Archive7

How Can I Become A Productive Wikipedian?
I was just wondering how I could become more productive? Do you have any tips?Flgook 17:51, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Withdrawal of renomination
I was actually quite open to people criticising how I operate as an admin, quite unprepared however for people objecting because they disagreed with the process. I realised that I could lose admin status over one action, rather than over all actions as I had hoped. I'm having difficulty staying logged in at all now so I'm off for my holiday and will speak more when I get back in two weeks' time. -- 217.44.238.33 21:01, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Harrassment?
I have a question about this guy that keeps leaving me these messages - however he does not have a page or anything could you please check it out? Flgook | Talk Flgook 02:02, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Question?
Hi, I don't yet have a username, but I have a question regarding a fellow named Iamblueman4, he left me a rather unsavory note on my as-of-yet unnamed discussion page. My IP address is 216.8.85.54 where he left me this note. Could you please confront him about his manners?

Zakynthos
Hi, thanks for doing that! We're off to Tenerife in September and that's a much easier flag to do! (counting down the days till we actually go to Zakynthos...) -- Francs2000 | Talk 28 June 2005 16:01 (UTC)

Same old subjects
Just some brief comments/inqueries/requests:
 * 1. Do you think we should implement the new maps? If so when? (I know you probably don't want to do, so don't worry its not a labor request. -JCarriker June 29, 2005 03:01 (UTC)
 * I haven't really ever looked at the old maps. Again, you seem to be presuming that I am much more involved in this area than I am. The new maps look good, but not having really looked at the old ones, I'm in no position to judge whether they are an improvement. -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 05:00 (UTC)
 * Yes, if the old stuff is nothing like uniform, these would be a good idea. Depending what is there, there might be cases where you would want to keep both rather than replace -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 15:27 (UTC)
 * 2. I only have a ride on Tuesdays and Thursdays. (I am not yet able to drive due to the agist, sexist, and classist discrimination of auto insurance.) I'll go to Wiley when I can, I haven't forgotten.
 * 3. Our little quagmire is still unsolved. Whether it be a redirect, rewrite, or disambig it needs to be done&mdash; even the demographics section is now at Western United States. I don't think anything I do will be accepted. I will offer my help with a rewrite, if that is what you decide, as not helping with such a project would obviously be unfair to you. Whatever you decide please do it soon, this is really stressing me out, especially having my hands tied from acting on it myself and not being able to move own with the project.
 * I just don't see why this is a big deal. What harm is there in a slightly redundant article, if someone seems so determined to keep it? It's not like it's terribly wrong and an embarrassment. -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 05:00 (UTC)

Thanks. Also see the politics article I wrote recently, if you have time, its, well&mdash; different. -JCarriker June 29, 2005 03:01 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying it seems to be involving an effort disproportionate to the impact it makes. Sometimes you have to be willing to walk away from a fight even when you are right. -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 15:27 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look. -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 05:00 (UTC)

On your other question: I'm still getting the notice when my talk page has been edited. -- Jmabel | Talk June 29, 2005 15:27 (UTC)

American West
I have already said that I think you are wasting your time on an irrelevant battle here, and you keep asking me to waste mine. I can't stop you from putting however much effort you choose into this matter, and I will continue to make myself available to you on many matters, but please allow me to gracefully bow out of certain things and just say "I don't care." I think I've been pretty clear that I don't care about this one. -- Jmabel | Talk July 1, 2005 06:30 (UTC)
 * Yes, as long as the RfC is over the article, not an individual, I will participate, but I hope you understand that I will participate with my own opinions, not necessarily simply as a support for yours. -- Jmabel | Talk July 3, 2005 16:29 (UTC)
 * I think you start the RfC, and notify him. If a week goes by & he hasn't participated, it's his problem, not yours. -- Jmabel | Talk July 5, 2005 19:38 (UTC)

Re: "Everything Alright?"

 * It's nothing I think you can fix (no offense). I'm going to lower it to 3, but I'm still pretty stressed about what's going on in one of the articles I'm working on. Thanks for your concern. &mdash; Il&gamma;&alpha;&eta;&epsilon;&rho;   (T&alpha;l&kappa;) '' 29 June 2005 14:47 (UTC)

Elagabalus
I got the information from a variety of sources. If you go to http://members.aol.com/heliogabby/bio/eng.htm, you'll see a translation of "THE LIFE OF ANTONINUS HELIOGABALUS" by Aelius Lampridius, which discusses it. Other sources are http://www.san.beck.org/AB9-RomanTurmoil180-285.html, http://www.xs4all.nl/~kvenjb/madmonarchs/elagabalus/elagabalus_tekst.htm, http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/Elagabalus/1*.html (a translation of the "Historia Augusta") and http://www.unrv.com/empire/timeline-3rd-century.php. And that's just from the first page of a Google search for Elagabalus +latrine. Is this something that's disputed? I did say that the earliest entries are allegations. Did I do something wrong? John Barleycorn

Sorry, I wasn't aware that I was stepping into a minefield there. Should I say on the Elagabalus article, "According to the 'Historia Augusta', he and his mother were killed in the latrine"? John Barleycorn

OK, I'll reword my addition. And thanks for the tilde trick. Here goes: John Barleycorn July 2, 2005 05:49 (UTC)

NEW!`
Just wanted to know what all went on here. Some friend of mine recommended looking at this site. I'm from Indonesia, and am willling to help however. Malas

A question
Hi, I don't know anybody else here but you and one other person, so I didn't know who to ask this. Could you look at the article at Oguanis, Bonfeulmonefort? It seems like total nonsense. Is there a process for getting articles like this out of Wikipedia, or do they just stick around? The Discussion page is nonsense, too. Thanks. John Barleycorn July 6, 2005 19:45 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. The link is red, I think somebody already deleted it. John Barleycorn July 6, 2005 21:27 (UTC)

OK, now I have another question. :) What is an admin?  Is that somebody who owns the site?  John Barleycorn July 6, 2005 21:42 (UTC)

Thanks for answering all of my questions. Now I have more policy pages to read. :) John Barleycorn July 6, 2005 22:12 (UTC)

Meetup
I've got some personal issues that make attending a meetup problematic. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 8 July 2005 21:00 (UTC)

Wikistress
I see you're quite peeved at Wikipedia. Why's that? Feel better :) Redwolf24 9 July 2005 11:16 (UTC)

Talk:Texas
Can you look at my talk page again and clarrify your second post? I am having a hard time comprehending what you just wrote at the moment. Thanks. UH Collegian 9 July 2005 15:54 (UTC)


 * Yes, those would be my grievances. Also, my other grievance is his strong urge to remove that picture from the page. UH Collegian 9 July 2005 16:42 (UTC)


 * His negative comments about the school and picture were not what set my tone of the conversation, but it was his strong demand of urgent removal of the picture twice on the talk page. It seems like he thinks he owns the "Colleges and universities" section since he got to put five (5) pictures with four uploaded by him. If he has the right to put up five pictures to that section then I have that same right to put one up there. That picture has been up there for more than a month and no one has complained about except for him, the person who loaded the other pictures to that section. I felt like he thinks he has owns that section and that no one else can put any pictures on there that was deemed "not worthy" to him. Him posting the pictures of Rice, UTHSCH, and Baylor College of Medicine are POV to me, but I did not even ask for removal or complained about it. I don't see any big deal of the picture that I put up there. It does not represent Texas any less than those pictures put up there by him. When I put up the picture of UH, I realigned the images of other schools by size, not by his personal ranks. I decided to put that picture up there because the school plays a significant role in Texas and its culture (in my opinion) and is also the third largest. If anything, I think a top 3 of anything should be mentioned. If UH was not the third largest university, I wouldn't have put the picture up there, just like I didn't and will never put a picture of Sugar Land on there. Other than that, I don't think there is any serious problem to the article for the pictures of UH or any other schools to be removed at the moment. I want at least the top 3 state universities to stay because they are a product of Texas.


 * I did not think his reponse to me was appropriate in any manner but I am not going to make it a big deal. As for the appology, are you talking about appologizing the talk page in general or to him directly? His response to my post was not professional at all. As for what I wrote on that talk page, I typed as I went along with my feelings at the moment. It is also a typical way I type emails to other people. UH Collegian 9 July 2005 17:55 (UTC)


 * About the compromise: I never wanted to remove any pictures from the section. Now I don't know what to think anymore after he posted on the talk page regarding the vote. It seems like he still insist that the picture I put up should be removed. I thought this was over. UH Collegian 23:32, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Texas Regions: East and Southeast
I noticed that the East Texas and Southeast Texas articles both mention Houston and claim Houston to be of said regions. Prior to discovering Wikipedia, I have always associated Houston and the surrounding areas as southeast Texas. Also, when I look at a map, I see Houston located in southeast Texas. Basically, I am confused about Houston showing up on both articles. The only thing I can think of why Houston appear in both articles is that maybe Houston is geographically southeast but is culturally east? Can you provide me with some information? UH Collegian 9 July 2005 16:49 (UTC)


 * Thanks for enlightening me with the information regarding East Texas and its subregions. I like the new map you made. What did you use to make the map? How did you color it, etc.? UH Collegian 9 July 2005 17:57 (UTC)

Tex Schools pics
Please do add to the discussion. I guess I would have reacted the same way, if I were in his shoes. And besides, UH is a good school too, Im sure. Maybe Im pushing a little too hard for a deserving preeminent image of TX, something similar to what is seen here.--Zereshk 9 July 2005 18:32 (UTC)

I apologize likewise.

But I was under the impression that his problem is with TAMU? (He's already made changes to both images). MD Anderson is the world's top Cancer research institute. And likewise BCM is a World-class institute. But then again, if you insist that MD Anderson must go, I have no problem, despite my opinion againt UH. UH is just not in the same league as the other schools there. I dont know how to mention this in a way that doesnt make a UH affiliate take it personally. The aim is only to make a good beefed up page for Texas. That's all.--Zereshk 22:14, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

OK. MD Anderson can go if the images are about representation (instead of rankings). Also, I made a minor correction on the top of this page, without your permission.--Zereshk 22:39, 9 July 2005 (UTC)


 * The language you have up there is Persian. I apologize for making the correction, if it was unwanted. The temptation was irresistable.
 * I will move to TX this fall (hopefully), when I finally start working on my PhD at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. I'm pretty excited about it all.--Zereshk 23:01, 9 July 2005 (UTC)


 * It's only a proposal. I agreed with the removal of MD Anderson. However, my latest move in proposing a vote comes from the fact that a new poster (Katefan0) has just supported my view (is against UH and is against taking out MD Anderson). Are you willing to ignore his call?--Zereshk 23:33, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Please spend a minute to study the format of the vote. There is also a no vote option, which I think makes the vote a fair deal and final resolution for all. I mean, what r u gonna do if someone 2 weeks later comes along and puts up a U Dallas pic based on "a school from each city" argument? Dont u think this is the best way to resolve this permanently?--Zereshk 23:39, 9 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Thats why I put up a "no vote" option; Just in case UHCollegian feels Im spreading more bad faith. But honestly, if we're going to talk about representation instead of ranking, Houston is being represented more than its share (MDAnderson, Rice, UH, BCM) while Dallas is not represented at all. That was the resoning behind my proposal, and I think it is very reasonable.--Zereshk 23:46, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

We would have been able to reach a compromise via negotiating, but the issue (for others) would have remained unresolved. Dont u agree?--Zereshk 23:48, 9 July 2005 (UTC)


 * It may be true that I have taken advantage of Kate. But is kate going to be the only voter here? Im sure that 10-15 other people will show up. And I am perfectly willing to accept the results of their vote, even if against my preferences. Why is that such a bad thing? Besides, I apologized. UHCollegiasn didnt. And he initiated it. I only asked the pic to be taken down. He attacked me for it. That is pure brashness on his behalf.--Zereshk 00:10, 10 July 2005 (UTC)


 * That I asked (with reason) for the UH pic to be taken down is absolutely no justification for UHCollegian to lash out at me like that. One doesnt go around attacking others just because they say ones school isnt worthy of being displayed on the Texas page. That's very brash. I didnt mention a word about UTHSC San Antonio. Yet UHCollegian has a dopted a proselytizing position regarding UH: He wants it there cuz it's his school, not because it's better for the TX page. I clearly have a case here. I will only come back to the table if he apologizes to me on the talk page.
 * Kate can read the history of this debate. If she boycotts by your request, that's fine and respectable. I am a wikipedian too, and asking for a vote is the most democratic thing to do.
 * Besides, your "compromises" were not exactly fair. I really dont care which schools stay up there, as long as they are top ranked. Thereofre your give and take solution of taking down MD Anderson in return for a UH pic wasnt exactly a solution. I had a prob with the UH pic itself being there. The choice of the selected pic for UH was a secondary matter, and I think I was clear about that. I only followed your invitation to this "table" to show my good will. UHCollegian didnt even apologize for everything he did. And that pisses me off. His retracting of additional attacks against me does not count as an apology. I must retire for the day now.--Zereshk 01:01, 10 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I guess now that youve put a week long hold on the vote, he has a whole week to do just that: apologize. I hope that is enough time for him. peace to u too.--Zereshk 01:22, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Proposal for Texas article
I have a proposal to make in light of Zereshk actions after your proposal. I never wanted any picture to be taken off in the first place. I propose that we moved the list of colleges and universities to its own article away from the main page since the list clutters up the page anyway. For the move to its own article away from the main page, I propose that no picture will be shown. What do you think of this? A lot of articles of other U.S. cities and states do not list colleges and universities on their main article since it clutters up the page. Again, I never wanted to remove any picture from the main page, but Zereshk is still pursuing his removal of UH, then this is the best choice. what do you think? UH Collegian 23:51, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
The sex abuse mention is restored, not from Micahmn talking to me about it, but from me seeing your comments on his page and restoring myself. In the future, I think directness would be a better approach. EdwinHJ | Talk 00:41, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Texas
Oops, didn't mean to open a can of worms. I had no idea of course that any sort of negotiating was going on. I can understand why you took the tack you did although I would have preferred the discussions go on on the talk page, where everybody else had a chance to weigh in on the best course as well. I'd prefer to see fruitful negotiations go forward so I'm not going to vote; but I'd like to see the negotiations over the substance of the dispute (without regard to the personal items between the two) in a little more public venue, so other interested editors can contribute as well. &middot; Katefan0(scribble) 03:10, July 10, 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree. Negotiating between the two parties is good, but content questions should be discussed on the talk page.  It seems that I'm now way out of the loop on the proposed agreements because I didn't know until just now that there were any private negotiations going on.  --Laura Scudder | Talk 03:17, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

User:Redwolf24
Hello again my friend, thanks for getting rid of the vandalism on my page. Redwolf24 06:38, 10 July 2005 (UTC)