User talk:JD554/Archive 1

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Tubeway Army
Hi mate. Actually I've heard the one about "Are 'Friends' Electric?" being two songs as well and can probably find a citation for it, however that sort of detail belongs in the song article, not the band article, so I think you did the right thing removing it from Tubeway Army in any case... Cheers, Ian Rose 13:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah right, cheers for that Ian. But you're right, it does belong in song article. Cheers JD554 14:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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Leeds United
Hi Mate, Thanks for wikifying a few dates for me! Just a quick general question - if a date has already been wikified, then should it appear again in the same article? I'm referring to the 'History' section (last two sentences in the first paragraph), which I recently modified with more precise information. You wikified the year '1920' twice? Cheers! JuicyOnes 07:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Did I? Oops - that was unintentional. Generally, there should only be one wikilink for something per article. But obviously as more edits are added you will get new ones cropping up. Also, it may depend on the length of sections as you may find wikilinks more than once in an article if they're in different (and long) sections. Cheers --JD554 09:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hallam FM Arena
>> Sheffield Arena == Hi there. Thanks for noting the change move above, and for updating some links, notably Timeline of Sheffield history. Just so we're singing from the same hymn-sheet, I just want to clarify what articles you think also need to change. I think that articles such as Sheffield Steelers such state that the club play at Sheffield Arena and Sheffield City Trust should say that it owns Sheffield Arena, but where event have taken place under the old name, such as The Sound of Girls Aloud: The Greatest Hits Tour or Queen + Paul Rodgers Tour ought to stick with Hallam FM Arena, as it was called when the events took place. Do you agree, and if not, do you have an alternative suggestion?  L.J.Skinner wot 17:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Ice Hockey Annual Trophy
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Jack Dryburgh
Hello JD, Panthers history has Jack as playing 7 games for us in 1956 and 1959. Panthers history is a very useful website if there's anything regarding the Panthers in any article you're doing that needs clarifying, failing that I can also get in touch with the author of two books about our history. PanthersGirl 12:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Bobby Lee
Thanks for adding Bobby Lee to the One gamers list, but I am unable to find reference to his one game played. I found him at hockeydb.com, but unless there is a mistake, he never played for the Canadiens or any other NHL team. Masterhatch (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Reply on your talk page. Cheers -- JD554 (talk) 07:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! this isn't the first time a mistake has been found on Hockeydb.com. Masterhatch (talk) 19:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

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Nottingham Panthers - 1946 or 1980?
Hello there JD. On the Elite Ice Hockey League page the year of Nottingham's formation was changed to 1980. I reverted it back to 1946 but it has since been changed back to 1980. It is a bit of an ambiguous subject so rather than start a mini edit war I thought it would be best if we tried to build a bit of consensus. I've left my reasons for having 1946 as the foundation year on the talk page and asked the user who changed the year to 1980 to join in. As a regular contributor to British ice hockey related topics your thoughts on the subject would be very welcome. PanthersGirl 16:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Irish Ice Hockey League‎
You reverted my edit on the above article with the summary "It is for sports. See List of British flags". 1. Not for all sports 2. There is no agreement to use the flag and it is very contentious 3. The link to the "List of British flags clearly shows the Ulster Banner is not the flag of Northern Ireland so I am somewhat baffled why you gave that link.

Can you please explain with rationale as I would rather clear this up then get into a futile edit war. regards--Vintagekits (talk) 10:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Vintagetiks, my rationale for using the Northern Ireland Banner on the Irish Ice Hockey League is because of what is said in the link I gave you:


 * "Northern Ireland does not currently have a de jure National flag other than the Union Flag - the former Government of Northern Ireland banner, the Ulster Banner, is still in use by international sporting organisations, (eg FIFA, UEFA , and the Commonwealth Games )"


 * Those last three references clearly show the banner being used for sports. -- JD554 (talk) 10:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Whilst I agree that the Ulster Banner is used in some sporting context, those context are very limited - international football (noting that the IFA dont use it) and the Commonwealth Games. However, I was not aware that the Irish Ice Hockey League‎ use it. If they dont then I dont think we should use it on this case, if they do then we should use it to denote the league but not the country. Would you agree?--Vintagekits (talk) 12:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That seems reasonable to me. However, a quick look at their website doesn't seem to indicate that they use any flag. Should the tricolour be removed as well? -- JD554 (talk) 13:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The Ulster Banner is only used in certain sports for Northern Ireland, not all sports and even in those its only used when they compete as a national team, this will explain Use in sport of flags in Northern Ireland.--Padraig (talk) 11:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * (I'll keep my replies here now it's a three-way discussion) I'm not sure that link you've provided answers the question on which flag to use for ice hockey. Ice hockey wasn't one of the 15 sports questioned and 5 of those 15 sports said they used the Northern Ireland/Ulster flag. FWIW I have no strong feeling on this issue either way, but a consensus should be reached. Perhaps this discussion should take place on the Irish Ice Hockey Association talk page for that purpose? -- JD554 (talk) 11:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Heres your answer they use the Tricolour when playing at international level representing Ireland.--Padraig (talk) 16:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Panthers-Steelers Rivalry
Isn't it nice to have a Steelers fan's talk page include so much about the Panthers? ;-)

One of the suggestions made by Oldelpaso in his peer review of the Panthers article is a section about the Panthers-Steelers rivalry. It's certainly worth some thought but I'm not entirely sure of how best to do it. I have an idea of how the rivalry started but it would be very difficult to put in as there aren't a lot of sources about it and I don't want to just start listing off major games and events between the two as I don't think that would make for very good reading or necessarily explain the rivalry. Any thoughts? PanthersGirl (talk) 12:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I would say the rivalry goes back to the previous season. Alex Dampier left us during 1992-93 while we in the Premier League and you were in the First Division. That summer he signed Selmar Odelein, Chris Kelland and another young lad who's name I don't recall from us which didn't go down to well at our end (as it says on the Steelers article, there was a lot of resentment towards the Steelers from pretty much everyone). There were a few feisty games during the 1993-94 season which ended with you beating us 8-0 in the playoff semi final (though you lost 12-1 to Cardiff the following day ;-)). There was then the title race the following season and regular meetings in semi finals and finals throughout the rest of the 90s. Mike Blaisdell walking out on us to go to you guys in October 1999 didn't help matters either. That's pretty much my interpretation of it, I'm just not entirely sure how to put that into a section. PanthersGirl (talk) 14:10, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for looking it up. I've doubled checked the Panthers books I own and a few yearbooks and nothing has really got anything useful. I've had a look at a few FA sports team articles and very few have a detailed section regarding rivalry and where there is it's not very long. I've also looked a few pages about rivalries and some are a horrible mess which I don't really want. I still have one or two things that need doing but I think I'm going to go for FA status with what's there already. It's something that can certainly be added in the future though. PanthersGirl (talk) 12:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Miscellany for deletion/Ken Bru
Hi there, JD554. Just to let you know, redirects like this don't get discussed at MfD. Instead, they should be discussed at Redirects for discussion, which specializes in considering redirects (hence the name). Don't sweat about not knowing this; it's not as busy as most deletion processes. If you move it over there, this is a case where it will probably get deleted - I think your deletion rationale is strong enough, it's just in the wrong place. Thanks. — Gavia immer (talk) 15:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Gavia immer, I'll go for a RfD --JD554 (talk) 16:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Starbucks external link
I see you've deleted my recent addition to the Starbucks wiki, citing it as spam. I can assure you that the resource linked to is independent research carried out by the UK Design Council, a not-for-profit government organisation that aims to raise awareness of design. It does not seek to sell any products or promote any particular agenda apart from the resources themselves. This research provides excellent insight in to the Starbucks design process and I thought it would be a useful resource for Wikipedia users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Designcouncil (talk • contribs) 11:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Whether your organisation is not for profit or for profit is not relevant. Please read Wikipedia is not a tool for self-promotion. --JD554 (talk) 11:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * External_links is also worth a read--JD554 (talk) 11:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

While my only intention was to allow more people to access this research, I can understand your comments on self-promotion and neutrality. I appreciate the link, and will endeavor to raise advocacy on this content through the individual discussion boards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Designcouncil (talk • contribs) 11:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Margaret Smith-Court
I posted a comment about the edit on the talk page. Please check the talk page before auto-reverting edits. TYVM. Benkenobi18 (talk) 21:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I did check the talk page. What you mentioned on there was about Jankovic. What you removed from the article itself was about her views on homosexuality.. The two don't appear to be related.--JD554 (talk) 21:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The section reads like an editorial, not a biography on Smith-Court. The Jankovic quote is not pertinent, and the article reads much better without the POV section. Benkenobi18 (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * What you keep removing is nothing to do with Jankovic, it is a section of Smith-Court's views regarding homosexuality. It is well cited and should remain.--JD554 (talk) 21:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed prod from B4180.
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I removed the tag because the creator of the article clearly contests the deletion, but I support the deletion which is why I've begun the AfD process. --  At am a chat 23:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Peru
I don't have revert ability but someone needs to revert all of the edits done to Peru by 68.184.42.198. Also maybe block that IP for a while? Thanks laurap414 (talk) 14:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your kind words JD. You're being as generous as Davy Lawrence. ;-) Thanks for the help you've given me too. KimThePanther (talk) 18:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Blizzard Ski
I have updated the "blizzard ski" article with several external references, and divided it into different sections to make it more presentable. Please remove the prod notice if you agree with my changes, or leave me more feedback. Thanks for your help! Digitizdat (talk) 20:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree
was going to go into the article and start cleaning it up, but realized that the IP is working on it, so I have watched it to see what still needs fixing later and am leaving it be. Dureo (talk) 10:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for advice
We can all learn something!!I was unaware of the tag you showed me --Harkey Lodger (talk) 14:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Logophilia
Thank you for the warning but I know exactly what I'm doing. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and this was a copy of the Wiktionary entry which is why I removed it and replaced it with a soft redirect using the well-known template wi. Pichpich (talk) 14:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppet case
A report you posted to SSP, Suspected sock puppets/Jeggers1, has been closed. See the page itself for the reasons why. Regards, Rudget . 17:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Redirects
I seem to be working backwards today - making the redirects before I make the article. Sorry! Mangwanani (talk) 12:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

By the End of Tonight
By the End of Tonight has been deleted under WP:CSD so that your proposed move can be completed. For future reference, a G6-based request similar to the one PROD you made in this case can be invoked by using. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 11:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Champion Training Academy
I've declined the speedy tag you placed on Champion Training Academy. The reason I declined it is because CSD A7 doesn't apply to schools. For your information, עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Elliott Baron/Elliott baron
Recreated numerous times! Block user? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like NawlinWiki beat you to it. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

RLE International
I changed the block to one month for spamming. (Check the block log again). On yet more reflection yes, an indef username block does seem appropriate. Off to do it now... Tonywalton Talk 14:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Cheers, Tonywalton Talk 14:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Im New To This!
Mate, I have just created a new page, but it will not come up in the search results! I'm not sure if you are the person to ask but any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Longy87 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou for your quick response, great to see you are helping us newbies! Sorry if i'm doing this wrong, i will now stop with these messages!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Longy87 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
for the underconstruction tag. I was kind of freaking out there, trying to keep the article from being deleted while at the same time trying to keep the author from re-adding the spam. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

That was a tough one, User:Kinabaloo
Thanks for helping keep this user at bay. They were extremely persistent and arrogant. I thought I'd be up all night fixing all the spam this user added. Ejay (talk) 12:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, I thought he/she had begun to learn when things started to go right with Working People's Cultural Palace, but it seems not :-( --JD554 (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I just hope that once the block gets lifted, the user doesn't continue vandalising. I'm going to keep an eye on them over the next 2 days. Ejay (talk) 12:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Love & Justice
Re. requested citation. You can listen to the interview for about another six days at BBC - Radio 4 Front Row - Past Programmes. The interview is about 32 minutes in. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 12:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Tagging images for deletion
I noticed that you're doing some good work tagging likely copyvio images for deletion. One thing though: you also need to notify the uploader that the image has been tagged, as per the details on the Pui template. -- Hux (talk) 00:34, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I've noticed the issue at hand. If you check the history of User:MaksKhomenko's talk page you'll see he blanked it after the warnings. --JD554 (talk) 10:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops, you're right - I probably should've taken a look there first. Sorry about that! -- Hux (talk) 19:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Keighley
Thanks for helping to revert the incorrect, or certainly unsourced, additions to Keighley. Just a note that obviously it's now gone beyond the 3RR on his part. Peanut4 (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Numan ghost.jpg)
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Linking to a discography resource
I contributed by adding a new link to the White Stripes page. Wikipedia puts enormous weight on relying on Discogs and MusicBrainz as resources but I find that the external link I was adding is as much, if not more, a useful resource to provide the user. I disagree that this is an unnecessary link - I think the merit of the resource should be re-examined. Mimecuvalo (talk) 02:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Boooooooo!
I was rather beginning to enjoy your lack of success in recent times. ;-) Now that the season is done and dusted with I was thinking of changing around the British team season boxes to add in the Knockout Cup. It seems to be here to stay, and it seems strange not to have it on a team's page. The problem is that you can't really have more than four sections across the page, otherwise the writing becomes much more difficult to read. This is a problem on ours, yours and Cardiff's page and maybe a problem on Basingstoke's if I ever get round to doing it. I was wondering if you had any suggestions on how we could add the Knockout Cup in? Congratulations on yesterday, hope you enjoyed it. KimThePanther (talk) 10:51, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Jack Kilpatrick
I don't understand your reversion on this page. Template:Birth date and age is only for people who are (within the standards of Wikipedia policy) clearly still alive. Kilpatrick is not, hence the reason that he is "Possibly living people" as opposed to "living people." Using the "birth date and age" template implies that he is currently age, which, unless you have a source showing that he is still alive (ie. meets the requirements Category:Living people as opposed to Category:Possibly living people) is not verifiable. Similarly, for deceased individuals, we have a Template:Death date and age. For people of unknown living status, we just leave it be. Do you have a source that indicates that he is still alive? Otherwise, birth date and age should be removed. Cheers, CP 20:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Before policy, I would appeal to a little common sense - if we are uncertain whether the person is alive or dead, why should we list him as being a certain age? Having said that, the policy I would point would be WP:V: Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source. The category Category:Living people states that Individuals of advanced age (over 90) for whom no documentation has existed for a reasonable number of years, may be removed from this category and transferred to Category:Possibly living people. Kilpatrick certainly falls into this category, so we can skirt the "list as alive until 123 or obit" policy of WP:BLP. But it is also an implicit challenge to any "fact" that lists him as being alive. Therefore, you need to attribute anything that claims he is living (ie. his current age being 90) to a reliable source. If you could do that, he would belong in category "Living people" anyhow, so this discussion would be moot. Or if that's too abstract, then consider my removal of the "birth date and age" a challenge to this material. Cheers, CP 14:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I will remove it, if only because I personally believe that he is deceased from evidence garnered from non-reliable sources. Taking the option to place him in possibly living seems appropriate to me.


 * I actually moved out of Winnipeg when I was about 3 and, now that my grandparents moved to Edmonton, I haven't been back in a decade. I do hope to return some day though (I've been in the United States since 2001). Cheers, CP 21:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiCookie

 * Me eat cookie! --JD554 (talk) 07:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Bunnymen discog
Just wanted to say what an excellent job you have done on various Bunnymen-related articles, particularly the discography. Bravo sir, well done. sparkl!sm hey! 16:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

mvdbase.com... But double-check if you can, and don't cite it because its not reliable. Another thing about the site is that it sometimes passes of live concerts as separate music videos, ignore those. indopug (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've replied on the article talk page. indopug (talk) 17:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks and congrats. indopug (talk) 12:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Lips like suuuuuuuuugaaaaarr . ..
You don't need to tag all the Echo and the Bunnymen articles with the WP:ALM project tag, since not everything they're done is alternative rock. So anything that's just plain ol' "post-punk" isn't really in the scope of the project. By the way, I have access to some old articles on the band, so let me know what you are working on and I can try to help you. However, I could only find an album review for Porcupine, I'm afraid. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Heaven Up Here
I have a class and final exam. I'll be back later. --Efe (talk) 00:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Passed. --Efe (talk) 08:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No prob. --Efe (talk) 08:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Billy Bragg
A pity you deleted the bit i added to the Billy Bragg article about "Greetings To The new Brunette".I well recall, it received a lot of airplay-at least it did in Dublin.jeanne (talk) 12:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Alianore de Lovayne
Hello, I added citations and a couple of more references. It can all be verified.Is it ok now? Thanks for the compliment by the way.Cheers.jeanne (talk) 09:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I added two citations to Burke's Peerage and included the page number where she is found.Thanks for your help.jeanne (talk) 11:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I Want To Be There (When You Come)
"to be" is not a phrasal verb. It's an infinitive. In this case, the word "to" is not a preposition, it's a piece of the infinitive (more precisely, a grammatical particle). In all (or maybe not all, but I think so) phrasal verbs, the preposition comes after the verb. Tuf-Kat (talk) 00:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Charts
I noticed that you have access to books that list British chart positions. Would you be able to reference some chart positions for the Alt-Rock WikiProject? The official UK Charts website is terrible for research purposes, and a lot of the articles are right now relying on chart information from websites that aren't really suitable as reliable, credible sources. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Highest priority would be the Featured List discographies on the project main page. Basically, if you see any British chart positions that are referenced by everyhit.com or chartstats.com, feel free to replace them with whatever book you have. I'd say start with the British bands and disbanded acts first, the latter of which is least likely to result in need for further referencing in the future. Nirvana discography might be the best to start with, since it's such a high-priority band and probably one of the more visited discography pages. Some of these artists didn't even chart, so not all of them will need their references replaced. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Quick question: I know the book probably doesn't have a proper author, but does it have an editor? If so, you can credit the editor like so: "Last, First (ed.)". WesleyDodds (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Dates
I reverted the American dating on the Alianore de Lovayne article placed by another user to the correct British system which I had originally used for Alianore, seeing as she was English. I only use American dating for American people; whereas for British and European people I always employ British dating. I have already written to the user and asked him not to alter British dates for British subjects. In fact, I personally prefer the British style.jeanne (talk) 07:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have done as you suggested. Thanks for your help. Cheers.jeanne (talk) 07:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)