User talk:JForget/Archives 16

CHINICT
Hello, could you please give some explanations regarding the reason(s) why you decided to delete the article I originally wrote regarding the CHINICT conference? I have taken the time to diligently address each alleged issue regarding the article - and I am surprised of your decision to just remove it without any explanation. In advance, thank you for your feedback. All the best, Franckn55 (talk) 08:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Basically the reasons as cited by the editors at the Articles for deletion/CHINICT page due to lack of notability of the subject and also in some areas it looked like an advertisement. Seems it was a good consensus even though I would have hope for more discussion, but no other people seem to be trying to save the page from deletion in that discussion. -- JForget 01:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Speed
Hi JForget, I notice you're closing AFDs at a pretty rapid pace with some sort of script and I'm a little concerned about whether or not you're taking the time to read the discussions carefully. --JayHenry (talk) 00:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, I do check the discussions, if there is no clear consensus or sometimes when there are recent discussions, I leave it open. But the near totality are obvious outcomes. Why it is faster, is that I have buttons that automatically closes rather then manually-- JForget 00:21, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I mention because in this AFD, an editor indicates using bold text that he moved the article from its original location to a new location. This 1) partially addresses the reasons to delete and 2) means that you deleted a redirect, and not the actual article.  I was surprised at this, since the move was indicated very prominently in bold, but then saw you had closed 8 AFDs in just 6 minutes, which made me wonder about the speed. --JayHenry (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It has being deleted as well. Thanks for that one though. JForget  00:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for closing the AfD discussion for Articles for deletion/Moonies. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 04:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure you're welcome. -- JForget 01:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about bibliography articles
Hi Forget,

I know you were involved in a previous discussion on this topic and thought you might be interested in participating here.

Happy editing,

Neelix (talk) 15:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Why was this deleted?
I believe you made a mistake in delting my page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_schedule_and_odds There seems to be no violation of terms, so please inform me why this was deleted. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitecronik (talk • contribs)

AFD
Nice close on the A Tree Full of Secrets AFD. Most admins would have relisted it. Joe Chill (talk) 00:11, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well seeing there wasn't a heck of a lot of difference/improvements from the versions that were deleted in July 2008 and in June 2007 (the latter which was deleted per AFD), a G4 could have being applied here. Also, it would give him immediately some chance to make the fixes so it might have a chance for a restore later on. -- JForget 00:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * My comment wasn't sarcastic. Joe Chill (talk) 00:21, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, I just wanted to add this point. Anyways thanks for the comment. -- JForget 01:01, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Darren Bartsch
Hi there, I am disappointed that you closed the above AFD as a blanket delete, when I was the only editor to not just parrot the "did not meet WP:ATHLETE" line, which I agree that each player didn't meet that guideline, but no-one disagreed with my assertion that two of them, Veale and Bartsch, were notable under the general notability guideline (in that they were the subject of reliable, independent third party sources in regards to there specific drafting/trading circumstances). I am not sure (and cannot check) whether or not all of the references that I found, cleaned-up or added were there when the other editors voted at the AFD, but like always with bulk nominations, you can't be sure if they all read each and every article. So, I am asking you, did you consider the general notability of Veale and Bartsch separately to the others, or do you also subscribe to the "WP:ATHLETE" overrides all else argument? I think the Veale article at least should be recreated as The Veale Deal, as it is a notable event in AFL drafting history (at least 3 or 4 references, including one that indicates that the rules were changed because of it.) I would like you to userfy the Lochlan Veale article for me, so that I can ensure that the information isn't lost, but I'll wait for your reply and any other discussions as to where it best fits. Cheers The-Pope (talk) 05:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Prevx
By the time I had looked at the article and done some initial research, the AfD was closed as keep by a non-admin citing WP:IAR. The PC mag review may be strong enough to keep the article, but that's not the way the AfD discussion looks now. Flowanda | Talk 09:14, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There is two reviews and an award (Where did you get one review from?). The concensus of the AFD was keep. I said WP:IAR because people aren't allowed to close discussions that they participated in. Joe Chill (talk) 11:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Following a discussion at ANI started by me, it was re-opened. Joe Chill (talk) 11:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Userification request
Can you please place a copy of now-deleted George W. Gibbs, Jr. in my userspace? I'd like to work on it. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 15:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Delicious carbuncle (talk) 16:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Sam Cox (footballer)
Hi, any chance of recreating this article, recently deleted please? Was deleted as subject not notable but today has played first full pro game in an all pro league for Cheltenham town. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_3/8293258.stm Thanks, --Egghead06 (talk) 16:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks for the help on the article about Nick Kypreos. If you know how to dig up a reference to the Hockey Central at Noon archives please assist me, as the reference I have in place is rather inadequate. Durwoodie (talk) 18:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your intervention on my talk page
I appreciate it. --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure you're welcome JForget  19:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

AFDs that were submitted improperly
I noticed you were a closing admin on some AFDs from Articles for deletion/Log/2009 September 9. It appears that someone added a couple of nominations after all other discussions were closed for that date onto that list. They're at the top and, as the result of being improperly placed, are probably not having the full discussion they should have, and will probably never get resolved until an admin became aware of it. Can you help fix this? Thank you. --Wolfer68 (talk) 23:08, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

✅ Done - they have being relisted at Articles for deletion/Log/2009 October 29 so everyone could have the chance to contribute to these two discussions. JForget 19:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

120.19.179.175
Hi, JForget. This editor is evading his block as User:120.16.72.24 --Rrburke(talk) 13:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I had left a message on the initial user talk page about discussing his changes on the talk page before edit-warring. I know that significant portions of the article were made by a banned editor or sockpuppter after I've check the article history. Still it is edit-warring. -- JForget 13:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Was blocked since he didn't bother discussing on the talk page. Even though the contributor was block (aside from problems I'm not aware) the contribs on this page sounded constructive with sources though clean-up might be necessary, but it is still not a reason to mass-blank like that-- JForget 13:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There's an ANI on Rodgarton involving the abuse of sources. Even so, an editor wishing to remove his contributions as suspect needs to patiently traverse the edit history rather than merely blanking whole sections.  --Rrburke(talk) 13:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The page was semi-protected, since he used a third IP to do the same. Thanks for letting me know about the issues regarding Rodgarton.-- JForget 13:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * He's baaaaaack: User: 120.19.92.16 --Rrburke(talk) 13:59, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He's finally using the talk page this time, although not really mentioning his solutions to solve the issue. JForget  14:06, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * (outdent) I'll have a look through the edit history to see if there's someone Rodgarton frequently edit-wars with. That's probably the culprit.  At present, though, 120.19.92.164 is evading his block. --Rrburke(talk) 14:11, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * (outdent) Hi, JForget. I think the 120.1x.xxx.xxx anon editors are probably Rodgarton himself, which is what I suspected from the beginning.  this edit is in his inimitable euphuistic style.  Same ISP, although there's some distance between some of the IPs.


 * I think Rodgarton's et al's contributions may be an elaborate joke whose purpose is disruption. He clearly frequents WR, which tends to make that possibility more likely. --Rrburke(talk) 16:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Syrthiss just semi-protected the article today for two weeks, as he made prolonged periods of edit-warring at Precognition. Semi-protection is basically the only resort for now since the editor is IP-hopping via multiple Vodafone addresses. Probably, it would be needed for the other articles he is involved eventually.-- JForget 21:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Jealousy Curve
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jealousy Curve. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 71.185.242.95 (talk) 03:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Alesia
I was trying to fix the Battle of Alesia article, and every time I clicked, you had already done it. So, thank you! :) Kevinmon • talk • trib  21:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

RUON
Hi,

Could you please explain why you deleted the RUON page?

Thanks Pebkac (talk) 15:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Have a look at the deletion discussion right here to see why it was deleted. JForget  16:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

RE: Articles for deletion/Toru Goto (religious persecution)
Toru Goto (religious persecution) was moved to Toru Goto (deprogramming subject) mid-AfD, so the latter should be deleted as well (the former having been only a redirect to it at time of its deletion). 02:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Li Shen
Hi -- I reverted the removals of links to Li Shen, since the links are to a notable Tang Dynasty chancellor, on whom I will write an article in relatively short order (perhaps in a week or two), not to the nonnotable person whose article was deleted per AfD. --Nlu (talk) 03:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Userification request
Would you mind placing a copy of the recently deleted article MWICPS in my userspace so that I may continue editing it. Much obliged. Matthew wright (talk) 04:45, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Shaikh Alauddin Siddiqui article
Very surprised to see you have deleted this article without any explanation, when I took the time & effort to improve it according to your Wikipedia rules. The edited version had references, infobox, high quality image, links and thorough information. Did you even read the edited version, and if so, why was it deleted? Thanks. (Ya habiballah (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC))


 * A clear majority voted for deletion of this article and this despite your edits to this article. You can submit a deletion review (or you create a newer version that is significantly improved to the previous and which shows it meets notability criteria) - if you want but the consensus was quite clear for deletion of the article. -- JForget 22:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Rise Against / Anti-Flag
Regarding this, why would one band be favored for a redirect over the other? Tim meh  00:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know that it was a second band. Yeah duh, I forgot Anti-Flag was the name of a band - this is a surprise especially for someone who listens to a lot of rock music. -- JForget 00:44, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's an easy mistake to make. Tim  meh  00:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Curse of the Inauguration
Hey, regarding this AfD, I'm not sure that relisting is necessary. The article has already been merged and redirected, and there's agreement that the AfD should probably just be closed. Glass  Cobra  12:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Check_Game is currently up for deletion, along with this and 94 other Price is Right games
You are welcome to comment in this deletion discussion. You are being contacted because you participated in the first AFD in 2007. Ikip (talk) 21:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Page- request to restore after corrections
Hi JForget, This page was deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sonisona/Sonia_Ahmed

This article has been deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sonisona/Sonia_Ahmed

So I have redone this with all sorts of references and links. Please have a look and let me know if you can restore this page. It is a crutial page as it even has proper references here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Pakistan_World

Please advise--Sonisona 09:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonisona (talk • contribs)

Consensus at AfD
I noticed you re-listed some articles at AfD in hopes of developing a consensus, like Articles for deletion/FuzzFind and Articles for deletion/Resoa. But in these particular cases, it looks to me like a consensus already exists. If there is a deletion nomination and two other delete recommendations, and no other recommendations at all, it seems to me that there is already a consensus among the editors who have taken an interest in the deletion discussion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * It happened a few times that the outcome changed after a relist when there was two votes on the same side, so that's why I'm hesitant on closing some.-- JForget 22:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Noteable Article?
Hi. My name is Sean Wolfington and you recently deleted the article written about me because i was not noteworthy enough and i wanted to ask you to reconsider based on new information that was not in the article, namely references. I am a little confused by Wikipedia because over a year ago i recieved a message that someone wanted to delete the article but other people decided to keep the article after making edits and adding references they said it was noteable. In addition to not being noteworthy some people said the article was self-promoting. This is not true. I discovered this wikipedia page when i googled my name for something else. A freind showed me how i could update it and i updated it so there was more accurate information and then i was told i should not do that. Since that time i never updated it again.

Since i don't know alot about Wikipedia i asked a freind and they suggested i provide information to the people on the business page of Wikipedia to get their oppinion of wheter the article is noteworthy and i wanted to give you additional information that was not on the article you deleted to see if that may change whether the article is noteworthy.

Here is a summary of my background so you can evaluate whether it is noteworthy. All of this information is available through major news outlets and i can give you the references, which seems to be the main criteria for determining if something was noteworthy. Below is my background information. Some of the information was not in the original article and the additional information may effect whether the article is noteworthy.

I am an Entreprenuer and a film maker. I founded and sold 2 technology companies by the age of 34. The first company, HAC Group which operated as Cyber Car and Automark, sold for $200 million (article with info can be viewed at: http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/18/business/company-news-reynolds-reynolds-to-buy-hac-group-for-200-million.html) and the second for $125 million dollars of enterprise value (BZ Results article- http://www.dealerrefresh.com/adp-buys-bz-results/ - there are many articles about these companies but these are links i just found). My company was recognized as the "Innovative company of the year" from Auto Success Magazine along with SAP (http://www.autosuccessonline.com/leadership.aspx) and I was a finalist for the Ernst & Young "Entreprenuer of the Year" when i was 34 years old and recieved the "Innovative Company of the Year" along with the CEO of SAP that same year. A few months ago was recognized by Haute Living Magazine as one of the top 100 most influential leaders in the Haute 100 along with Michael Bay (Director of Fast & Furious and others), Matt Damon, Donal Trump, Gloria Estephan amonst others. (view at:http://www.hauteliving.com/?s=sean+wolfington). After selling the second company, I started a film production company where i financed, produced and distributed the first film myself (Bella)and it was the #1 top grossing film in its category. The Huffington Post asked me to write an article about it- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-wolfington/what-i-learned-about-maki_b_102704.html and LA Times wrote an article about the unique self distribution strategy that resulted in our film becoming the #1 top grossing latino themed film released in 2007 (LA Times article is here --- articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/04/entertainment/et-bella4) It also was the #1 rated movie on Yahoo, NY Times, Fandango and Rotten Tomatoes while in theaters and it is currently one of the top 50 Rated Films of All Time on Yahoo and it was the #1 Rated movie of 2007 by the users of the largest film review site in the world, RottenTomatoes.com. After that i produced 2 other films including "Self-Medicated", the most award winning film of 2006 (25 awards, you can view on IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0341569/) and a new motion picture called Mighty Macks (you can view at IMDB http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034324/ which is being released in 2010. You can view the details of my film history at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2055676/). In addition to the film production company i currently own 6 companies in the technology, real estate and entertainment industries.

I can provide more information but this is a summary of my background. Please let me know if this new information changes the noteworthy status of the article. Thank you.Seanwolfington (talk) 05:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Section
An article that you have been involved in editing, Section, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. –  imis ☂ 01:45, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Zealotry
Thanks JForget, you have just proved my point about Wikipedia Zealotry. Have a nice day :-)

Note to other readers: I put in a list citing 'wikipedia:deletion policy' in the Zealotry article, within seconds the entry was deleted by the above Administrator. 94.193.97.190 (talk) 21:37, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * What does it had to do with the content of that article? I don't see anything that justify having that link you've provided. Or do you wanted to propose the article for deletion - though movement seems quite notable. -- JForget 20:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

blocked proxy
seems like you should protect User talk:213.255.218.158. It is clearly the same person who kept replacing his/her IP talk page with junk. NHRHS2010 | Talk to me  21:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, nevermind. Zzuuzz got it. Thanks anyways. NHRHS2010 | Talk to me  21:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Oompa-Loompa
Do you have any idea what this might be:

I found it at the end of the Oompa Loompa article, and I have never seen anything like this. It is not a navigation box, or any kind of template I have ever seen. For the life of me, I cannot figure it out, or what its purpose is. Any ideas? ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive' 17:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * At what version though? I haven't seen it in any of the December version's of the page. I did some testing with the same text on my sandbox and it showed it like that. I would think probably someone tried another form of a column table (different then this or box which didn't work or it was just a test, but I haven't seen this before. Also, if it would work it would not just need one { or }. -- JForget 17:34, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You can only see it in the edit box. When looking at the article, it is invisible.  The only way to make it show up in this message was to put the nowiki tags around it.  My Spanish is not good, but it looks like an attempt at a varieties of chocolate box, which would still be irrelevant to the topic.  Adding the extra { and } produces what you see above, which is still not a working box. ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  17:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * More for the sake of satisfying my own curiosity than anything else, I tracked down the culprit. The ersatz box was added at 17:55 on 21 December 2005  by 201.29.197.225, who has made no other edits.  It was moved around over the last nearly-four years, but never removed.  Fascinating.  What its purpose may have been will probably never be known.  I am removing it.  Cheers! ---  RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  18:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Article Name Change
I see you have an interest in Canadian articles, so I would like to ask if you can rename the article Critical Mass (Catholic rock) to Critical Mass (band), as it seems more appropriate. I would but my account is not four days old nor is it an account. Thnaks in advance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass_(Catholic_rock) 98.198.83.12 (talk) 22:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Only problem though is there are other bands with the same name - though one doesn't seem to be having an article. -- JForget  01:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Tx ...
for closing all those articles. Best, --Epeefleche (talk) 02:55, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure you're welcome. -- JForget 21:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Protection on John F. Kennedy article
I notice that although you set the semi-protection to indefinite back in September when I requested, the move-protection has an expiration date of December 7, 7 minutes after midnight UTC. Why is that? Because Kennedy is not a living person, there's no good reason to re-title that article anyway. Andrewlp1991 (talk) 05:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks I've fixed it to an indef move while keeping the permanent editing protection. I think I was thinking of a 3 month-editing protection instead of a 3-month move protection. -- JForget 21:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Les Promenades.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Les Promenades.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you.  Zoo Fari  03:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

List of United States television series cancelled or ended after 2004 season
I saw that you closed WP:Articles for deletion/List of United States television series ended after 2001 season as delete. That AFD also covered
 * List of United States television series ended after 2002 season
 * List of United States television series cancelled or ended after 2006 season
 * List of United States television series cancelled or ended after 2007 season
 * List of United States television series cancelled or ended after 2008 season
 * List of United States television series cancelled or ended after 2009 season

Should it have covered List of United States television series cancelled or ended after 2004 season as well? Thanks, Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 06:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Early closes
You seem to be closing a lot of AfDs early, even a day early. Please see Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion, where this practice is criticised. Note that closing early without a compelling reason goes against our deletion policies and guidelines. Thanks. Fences &amp;  Windows  02:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: AFD on Citymoves Dance Agency
Hi! I noticed the AFD listed above was closed by yourself on 12/December. I saw your comment at the top about not being sure why it was relisted, and I thought it would be wise to clear this up with you. The only reason the AFD was relisted was the fact that come 7 days after the AFD had been placed, there had been very few responses, and 3 of those were socks of each other. I consulted staff on the wikipedia IRC channel @ freenode, who suggested relisting it to gain more opinions on the deletion prior to having it closed. I relisted it on 6/Dec, and the last response was on 10/December. It was purely that 3 deletes and an albeit weak keep, was not felt to be enough consensus to process it's closure and removal.

Hope this helps. Regards, Thor Malmjursson (talk) 18:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * no problem thanks, I thought I had noticed 5 people in favor of deletion - with my comment I had already excluded the socks, most of the time I exclude the socks and SPAs in the consensus. I'm not really picky - so let's move on - it didn't had a chance anyways. -- JForget 21:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Why?
What's the story behind this allowance of whitewashing? That was long-standing and well-sourced content. I'll restore it to undo the vandalism that this editor is engaging in, not only there, but elsewhere. -- Brangifer (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry on that one. Thought I was wrong on the first occasion.-- JForget 22:39, 19 December 2009 (UTC)