User talk:JForget/Archives 17

America's Next Top Model, Cycle 14
Hi JForget! Could you please moved the newly existed page of America's Next Top Model, Cycle 14 to my Userspace. I will improve some refs and POVs. ApprenticeFan talk  contribs 00:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Article was being userfied, though I had kept the redirect link to the parent article. Eventually content could be returned to that entry once the improvements are made and that there won't be any WP:CRYSTAL issues. -- JForget 04:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Amy Pond
Thank you for the full prot. I made the pp-dispute template smaller. I hope that is okay? Cirt (talk) 14:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure you're welcome. -- JForget  14:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not involved in the edit-war, but I cannot act as an admin as I have worked to improve the quality of the content of the article itself. Perhaps you could look over the issue and the talk page? Cirt (talk) 14:45, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment - but did you see the RFC I started, in the section below that one? Cirt (talk) 14:54, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Cirt (talk) 15:00, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I've moved my comment there since it is more appropriate right now. Sounds like the issue in this edit war is only in regards to the image in the casting section and the license seems adequate. I hate to call this a lame edit-war, but it is. The editor involved also blanks his talk page, which doesn't help his case and seems he also has issues on other articles and had a previous 3rr block in April. If he continues his actions, regretfully, he will have to be blocked again especially since the majority right now seems in favor of keeping the image -- JForget 15:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Cirt (talk) 15:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Took less then 15 minutes and my comments were already removed by him. -- JForget 15:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm busy workin on a new Wikinews article about recent interest in conlang. :P Fun stuff. Cirt (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Infraparticle
How'd you reach no consensus? The article's an unreadable piece of garbage. Not even I, the master of keeps, can voice that it should be kept, or did you include my prior keep with my now stubify it? Keeping articles that users cannot read is pointless. It's not an article. It's gibberish. Still, what is your reading that it was "no consensus?" Looks like consensus is to gut it. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 18:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Some had proposed rewrites, stubbification and one well-experienced user proposed to keep, so not a very clear consensus. But maybe it should go to the incubator or for userfication. It might be better in either of those since it needs a big overhaul with help with experts. Also you seem to go from keep to delete to stubbifcation to redirect in this AFD, plus you have not stroke your first position. Can you just clarify your position on that one? -- JForget 18:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It says "relisted," so doesn't that mean it's "relisted?" There's only one keep, and that editor did not come back for the relisting. The article really needs either immediately stubbified or deleted now. It can't really sit on wikipedia in its current state, particularly for a major topic. It's like having an article on bike racing that consists of the text, "Bicycle tires are made of rubber. Rubber used to be only naturally occurring from plantations in Southeast Asia even though it's native to Brazil. The British colonial empire also landed a ship in Antarctica that year." Unreadable gibberish isn't an article. Keeping an article on the topic is one thing, but this isn't an article on the topic. Even the one keep says, "misguided attempt to present previous research on the subject in an unencyclopedic style." -- IP69.226.103.13 19:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by IP69.226.103.13 (talk • contribs)
 * I've stubbified the article to only keep the first paragraph. It can be rebuild from that. -- JForget 20:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Stub a billion times better than it was, although it still needs work. I'll add project template to talk page, if there is none. Not many quantum astrophysicists on wikipedia. -- IP69.226.103.13 |  Talk about me.  23:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: AfD for Global Network for the Forecasting of Earthquakes
Hi JForget,

I understand why you closed this discussion as keep, but I want to point out that most (all?) of the keep comments came from editors either who have only edited on this or closely related articles or who were contacted by Ismail Valiyev. I could have canvassed support for my proposal from other editors, but felt that this was not the way such things should be done - I put it on the WP Geology project page to get other editor's views but unfortunately got no response at all. I remain frustrated by the process, I'm tempted to re-list it straight away or take it to WP:COI as the creator and main editor has said that all the pictures in the article are all his own work, which virtually guarantees that he works for the organisation as the same pictures appear in their promotional material. The whole thing smacks of pseudoscience and self-promotion. This is not intended as rant at you, just venting a little of my frustration at my first experience of AfD. Maybe I should just ignore this and go off and write more articles on real science. Tell me to forget it and I will, otherwise your advice on my next move would be appreciated. Cheers, Mikenorton (talk) 21:48, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Parts of the article looks messy and a couple of sections sounds an advertisement indeed, so I've flagged for clean-up and left a note in the talk page. There are way too many images and some are too big. So some maintenance is well needed. Often you will see people from various WikiProjects being contacted for AFDs related to the project although some of the WikiProjects do list related articles on AFD on their main page. Now I don't understand the language but I would presume it is just inviting users to participate at the debate - I have had sometimes these kinds of message. As long as it doesn't attempt to influence the outcome it shouldn't be much concerning. By the way, don't worry about that experience, the first ones are always toughest since being not that much familiar and often there are unanimous consensus for keeping articles or others options. Once you read more and more about the deletion policies, you will probably have no problems in doing more deletion nominations. JForget  23:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Treaty with Algeria (1795)
Hi JForget, please don't take offense, I know that you're probably busy and in a hurry, but did you actually read Articles for deletion/Treaty with Algeria (1795)? — V = I * R (talk to Ohms law) 01:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

thanks. — V = I * R (talk to Ohms law) 02:03, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem, sorry I missed out on the transwikied comment and link. -- JForget 02:04, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Jean Carroll
Hi JForget. I noticed that you undid the edits the last time, so I thought I'd bring to your attention that they have been replaced. I can't tell if they're legitimate or not, but if she was still alive, I don't see any indication that she died today, aside from a claim from someone saying that she is her daughter. For now I've removed the DOD and placed her in "Possibly living people" since there's no source for the death and tagged the rest of the info. I thought I'd let you know, just in case you have any opinions. Cheers, CP 02:14, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks, yep I've also checked under her birth name and nothing comes out about her death either. JForget  02:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of David Cole (revisionist)
Neophyte that I am, I made a request for undeletion in the wrong place concerning the above article (deleted December 6). I've been advised to inquire with you about it, so I am doing so, but instead of copying the two or three paragraphs I entered into the wrong place, may I just invite you to click here and see what I entered?

Awaiting your response with interest.--Joe (talk) 02:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for fast restoration, JForget. I'm going to put him back into David Cole Disambiguation, and anywhere else I can think of that referred to him (I discovered the original deletion through an unlinking from the deleted article).--Joe (talk) 02:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Euh probably wouldn't be necessary as an AFD might come quick - and maybe would be needed to have more discussion/consensus without the sockpuppets - as there were several issues raised by people who were not blocked after the AFD. Probably some might contest the restoration, but I'm not objecting at a new AFD on the subject. Read also comment on the article's talk page JForget 22:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

username block?
Why did you block this user with usernameblock, not vandalism or VOA? tedder (talk) 02:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I gave him a another warning for the vandalism - there was only a level 1 cluebot warning before the notification to change his username. hopefully with a new username (if he requests) he will stop - but the user wasn't sufficiently warned for vandalism just yet. JForget  03:04, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well now that account is blocked indefinitely for continued vandalism. -- JForget  00:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Jeff Cooper (disambiguation)
Hello and Happy New Year. This was recently deleted by you and I was wondering if it could be temporarily restored/I could check its former content. To my recollection, although after one was recently deleted, it contained 3 redlinks, all met MOS:DABRL and so were valid. The only one which has an article is rightly at the primary page. Could I check this? Thanks in advance for your help, Boleyn (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Done -- JForget 21:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it was as I remembered so I've just tidied it a bit and put a note on the Talk page. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Just come here looking for the page on DJ Jeff Coooper and its gone! Odd, because he's well known in the UK (though not, granted, in the US) and was the youngest ever BBC newsreader. I'm looking for info for a UK radio history article. Was this vandelism? Cheers, Arnie —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnoldpeters (talk • contribs) 12:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

River Marden
Hi - no probs, thanks for the explanation - cI did wonder what was happening for a moment. Happy New Year! Jezhotwells (talk) 01:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and happy new year to you as well. -- JForget 01:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Siddarth JAIN
The article was moved to Siddarth Jain during the AfD. Since you had closed the AfD and deleted the original page, I just deleted the one to which it was moved to. cheers. - Spaceman  Spiff  04:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks for that. -- JForget 22:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Inbox
You have an e-mail. Best, WilliamH (talk) 19:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Lauren Bernat
I recently recreated the article as Wii Fit Girl and was quickly reverted due to the previous AfD. However, I feel that the version I wrote clearly addressed the complaints of the article being about someone who is famous for only the YouTube video, in spite of the fact that she has been sued for the video, the lawsuit being covered by several news media outlets such as Fox News, she has appeared as a spokesperson for Electronic Arts' EA Sports Active, and has spawned several homages and "copycats". Perhaps the original version that was deleted seemed to be covering a person who was only famous for one thing, but this one I think clearly shows that she has done more than just be the Wii Fit Girl. If you could give me your blessing to recreate it, that would be excellent. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 06:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Sanmesh Kalyanpur
Hi JForget

We are part of a miniscule Chitrapur Saraswat community and are proud of the achievements of Sanmesh Kalyanpur. At a young age of 15, he had saved his 8 year old sister from drowning in open manhole during the July floods which drowned Mumbai in India. The Government of India recognised him with National Bravery Award and he was selected for the prestigious Sanjay Chopra Award. He was also awarded the President of India's Jeevan Raksha medal which is awarded for exemplarary bravery irrespective of age. Maharashtra State selected him for Maharashtra Gaurav Puraskar. All these achievements ot a young age justifies mention in Wikipedia.

All the awards mentioned form part of Government of India's gazzette notification and there are many articles in newspaper which were provided on the site. I was disappointed when I was told that the page has been deleted since tthe achievement doesnot merit inclusion.

I had written to JohnCD who has replied as under "The article was deleted after a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanmesh_Kalyanpur, which decided that it did not meet Wikipedia's notability requirements for an encyclopedia article. If you want it restored, you should first approach JForget (talk · contribs), the administrator who closed the discussion, and invite him to reconsider. If he is not willing to do that, you should take it to WP:Deletion review. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)"

Request you sincerely to reinclude the article.

Regards R N GokarnRngokarn (talk) 05:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Tiffany Towers Page
Hi, Why was this page deleted? One of the criteria is beginning a trend genre in pornography, Tiffay Towers was at the very beginning of the large breasted women, well before Wendy Whoppers and Lisa Lipps, who have pages, she has been in many movies and hundreds of mag covers, including Penthouse... Has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media is another criteria wich Tiffany has.. She was also in 2 AVN award winning collaberation movies.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiffanytravels (talk • contribs)

212.183.140.19
This anonymous user is now messing with his talk page. - Denimadept (talk) 01:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep
I've suggested the page for protection, but if you made a decision, I wouldn't be opposed; the page is essentially being cluster-fucked at this point. Half Shadow  22:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Semi'd for 2 weeks. I checked for sure that it was not on the main page since the insane amount of edits but it only started at around 21:00 UTC, so only an hour ago -- JForget 22:09, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was kind of weird. Half  Shadow  22:11, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello there!
Just alerting you to the fact that you seemed to have accidentally rolled back Alison Carroll to an also-vandalised version. All fixed now, but just reminding you to keep an eye out. Happy editing! :)

-- GorillaWarfare  talk 00:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix. -- JForget 00:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

A better Newsbeuter article
Hi there. You were the closing admin on the AfD discussion for the Newsbeuter article. I've made some significant changes to the article in its incubator page here. I've added a bunch of sources and fixed the language a little bit. It used to look like this, which I agree was pretty bad! See what you think and then if you could tell me if you think the changes I've made make it worthy for re-inclusion into the Wiki or if you think it still needs some work, that would be great. Thanks for your consideration. --Xyiyizi 19:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
For being a watchful eye and reverting vandelism. :) --Neon Sky (talk) 00:28, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Blocking User:Zachery695
Hi. You blocked User:Zachery695 after I reported them using Huggle. I'm new with Huggle (this was my first report), and was just wondering whether the automatic "– vandalism –" summary put on WP:AIV by Huggle is sufficient for reporting users, or whether I should make the effort to place the request manually so as to put a more detailed summary. Thanks. -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 04:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 04:28, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello JForget! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created  is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:19, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Alexis Wawanoloath -