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Administrators' newsletter – January 2021
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 * Speedy deletion criterion T3 (duplication and hardcoded instances) has been repealed following a request for comment.

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Arbitration
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DYK for Julie V. Iovine
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DYK nomination of Susan Estes
Hello! Your submission of Susan Estes at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Joofjoof (talk) 07:04, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for John Clark Mayden
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Adding Mayden to that category led me to this beautiful article. They must have had some great nights here. No Swan So Fine (talk) 19:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Frederick Swann
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More bad drafts by suspected sock
See Sockpuppet investigations/220.120.78.242 for other nonsense drafts by User accounts suspected of sockpuppetry. David notMD (talk) 10:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Susan Estes
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).

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DYK for Richard Leibert
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK
Hello! Your submission of Ernest T. Campbell at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Vaticidalprophet (talk) 17:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Rudy Atwood
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Rudy Atwood
WP:MOSNICKNAME applies - Rudy is a standard shortening for Rudolph - similar to William/Bill. As such the "Rudy" aspect should not be in the main name. GiantSnowman 17:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * have you looked at MOS:NICKNAME as I referenced in the edit summary? Please note, that differs from WP:MOSNICKNAME: per MOS:NICKNAME, Rudolph "Rudy" Atwood is correct as that was always his stage name.  JGHowes   talk  18:15, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Then the article should be located at Rudolph "Rudy" Atwood. GiantSnowman 18:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You are simply wrong by conflating article title with Lead sentence in the case of celebrities using a stage name. Else, will you be moving Featured Article Magic Johnson to Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr., etal.? JGHowes 2:10 pm, Today (UTC−5)
 * Well no, because Magic is not short for Earvin, is it? This is why we have an article about Steve Buscemi and not Steven "Steve" Buscemi etc. GiantSnowman 19:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Re: 2021012510007628
Hi JGHowes, I'm having an honestly quite frustrating time communicating with Dr. Tseng re: this ticket. I have uploaded the images, , and. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:01, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram reply.svg I will look into this tomorrow morning. It's 11pm where I am and I'm turning in now {  JGHowes   talk  03:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Good morning, I've again communicated with her via OTRS email. Generally speaking, the holder of a photograph's copyright is the person who took the photograph, rather than a person who appears in it. These three Commons files have been annotated accordingly. They will be deleted on February 25 if the licensing remains in doubt. &mdash;  JGHowes   talk  12:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The photo of her taking the vaccine should be OK though. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 17:45, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ernest T. Campbell
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ernest T. Campbell
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ernest T. Campbell you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Whiteguru -- Whiteguru (talk) 06:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page
"Please do not create hoaxes on Wikipedia, as you did at User:RMcD/sandbox. Doing so is considered to be vandalism and is prohibited. If you are interested in how accurate Wikipedia is, a more constructive test method would be to try to find inaccurate statements that are already in Wikipedia—and then to correct them if possible. If you would like to make test edits, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges."

You wrote this on my talk page:

I have bolded the relevant parts

You tell me that if I wish to make test edits I should use the sandbox, that's what I did. Who is being hoaxed by stuff on my sandbox? I want no one else can see my sandbox, it should be private. Don't look at it

"If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion"."

There is no such button on my page so that's also a lie — Preceding unsigned comment added by RMcD (talk • contribs) 22:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Userpages on Wikipedia are not "private", nor may they be used to create hoaxes.  JGHowes   talk  23:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

George A. Palmer as a notable from Cinnaminson Township
First off, kudos on your work on the article for George A. Palmer, which is well done, informative and genuinely interesting.This edit to the article for Cinnaminson Township, New Jersey added Palmer as a notable. Palmer's connection to Haddon Heights, New Jersey is much stronger, as he was pastor at a local church *AND* broadcast Morning Cheer from his home. Is serving as a clergyman at a church in a community enough to merit a listing as a notable? Alansohn (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Alansohn, it's good to hear from you! I've nom'd the article for DYK, so hopefully it'll be highlighted on the Main Page DYK in due course. Granted the tie to Haddon Hts is far stronger than Cinnaminson_Township, but is it an either/or situation? Because Palmer started his ministry at the church in Cinnaminson and that's where he's buried, I thought it appropriate. But I have no strong feelings on the matter, so if you feel otherwise and want to revert, go ahead.  JGHowes   talk  20:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Thewlis
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Your GA nomination of Ernest T. Campbell
The article Ernest T. Campbell you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ernest T. Campbell for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Whiteguru -- Whiteguru (talk) 05:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Titanic International Society
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Titanic International Society you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HickoryOughtShirt?4 -- HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Question...MakeLifeGood
Hello - I'm a new Wikipedia user. I created my first article over the weekend titled "Blue Chair Bay Rum". I had accidentally posted it on my user page, and had it deleted. But there is still a redirect on my user page from that. I just received a message from you about a speedy deletion nomination. Was this for my Blue Chair Bay article, or for the speedy deletion tag that is still showing on my user page from my previous mistake? I'm confused about this. There is a notice on the Blue Chair Bay Rum article itself stating it reads as an advertisement. To me, it doesn't read as biased at all. In fact, I found lots of other info I could've included but didn't for that very reason. Hopefully someone can make some suggestions and not just delete the entire thing, because it is not an advertisement in any way. MakeLifeGood (talk) 18:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! I do not find any redirects to/from your user page, nor have I sent you any messages. I do see a message on your user talk page about a speedy deletion nomination from : is that what you're referring to? But it appears to be erroneous, because: (a) there's no Speedy Deletion tag on the Blue Chair Bay Rum article and (b) the reason given "G7 - author requests deletion" is false, since Poppified is not this article's creator, nor have you as author requested its deletion.


 * Creating your first article can be a daunting experience, and it helps to read Wikipedia's help pages and style guides, as well as looking at other articles, such as Bacardi Rum, for examples. We strongly recommend that new users take advantage of the AFC process, where your draft can be reviewed by more experienced editors to avoid common pitfalls.


 * The "advertisement" tag was added because the article needs to be edited for neutral tone, and not read like an advertisement. For example, "Chesney worked with legendary master blender..." citing Forbes.com which is not a reliable source. Likewise, "The new product caught the attention of fans and critics, becoming the fastest growing new spirits launch by a new company in the history of liquor", citing Connecticut Lifestyles which is not a reliable source meeting our standards.  JGHowes   talk  22:45, 25 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response! I read thru everything before writing my first article, but obviously there are just a few dots to connect still. I read thru several brands before creating. I would have thought Forbes was a worthy & highly regarded source myself! I already went in earlier and removed the word "legendary", even though he is a well known distiller in the industry. The Forbes article actually talked about Blue Chair Bay bringing him out of retirement to work with them, as he worked with Malibu before. When researching, I came across multiple articles to reference Mike Booth, including the company's (Blue Chair Bay's) website. Should I cite it instead? I remember reading that we need to be careful about citing company websites too much. Same for the other fact about it being "the fastest growing new spirits launch by a new company in the history of liquor." This is stated on the brand's website, and in quite a few articles. Is it better to reference the brand's site? MakeLifeGood (talk) 00:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello JGHowes ; about notification of G7 tag on  talk page. Actually the article the user created was blanked on the same day of created by the creator so I tagged it for G7 blanked.Then article was deleted from main space.And after that he created the same article which I didn't tagged for speedy deletion.Thanks Poppi fied  talk 01:59, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * : ; Is there something different I need to do to correct the speedy deletion issue? Or is it actually resolved?  MakeLifeGood (talk) 02:14, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

That article already been deleted.After the deletion you created the new one. So there is no problem to be resolved with that article now.That article will remain in the mainsapce.Happy Editing Poppi fied  talk 02:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As Poppified says, the above-discussed speedy deletion is resolved. That's not to say someone else won't nominate it for regular deletion in the future at AFD.
 * Forbes, the published magazine, is a reliable source, but Forbes.com is not &mdash; the reason being the latter accepts user-contributed content that does not have adequate independent, editorial oversight. There's a chart that lists what is and is not a reliable source, here: WP:RSP. And using a company's own website as a source is limited to just basic facts, e.g., who is a company's CEO, where headquartered, etc., but not what a company says about itself and its products, since that's hardly neutral and lacks editorial oversight independent of the subject. The detailed guideline used to evaluate notability for companies, by the way, is here: WP:NCORP. &mdash;  JGHowes   talk  02:59, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021). Administrator changes
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 * A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
 * A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Page mover/delete-redirect.
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 * There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.

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 * There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (T275322).

Arbitration
 * By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people. Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
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DYK for George A. Palmer
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Your GA nomination of Harriet Lee (singer)
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Your GA nomination of Harriet Lee (singer)
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Your GA nomination of Titanic International Society
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Your GA nomination of Harriet Lee (singer)
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Your GA nomination of Majestic Radios
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DYK for Wilbur Nelson
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, and well done!
Thank you for creating Lorin Whitney, a topic long overdue for an article and which had been on my to-do list. It's a lovely piece, succinct, informative, and very well sourced. Bravo! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , you're very welcome. It was on my to-do list as well, along with creating Dick Leibert and getting Fred Swann to GA. I'll be nominating Lorin Whitney for DYK in the next day or so.  JGHowes   talk  02:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * And ah, yes, Rudy Atwood also! That was created while I was on a bit of hiatus (which I'm not fully recovered from..)  Another nice piece of work that is now formerly on my to-do list!   78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 02:24, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Majestic Radios
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Your GA nomination of Majestic Radios
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DYK for Millie Dienert
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 42
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Issue 42, January – February 2021 
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Deletion review for Rt Rana
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Articles for deletion/Arsalan Anwar (2nd nomination)
Hi, can you please expand on your close of this AfD? WP:NSPORT is an SNG which presumes/requires the GNG to be met, that article clearly does not (in spite of the sources in the article, which are all statistical and don't count per WP:SPORTCRIT), and the keep !voters did not back up their "passes GNG". Thanks! SportingFlyer  T · C  01:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram reply.svg Hi SportingFlyer, always happy to elaborate when it's a close call. In this XfD, there appeared to be a narrow consensus to keep, some contending that WP:NCRIC was met and others on procedural grounds, due to the short interval since the last XfD. While WP:RENOM is just an essay, it's been my observation that objections are more likely to arise if there's a substantial deviation. Perhaps a WP:DRV after last month's XfD was closed, or requesting the closing admin to undelete and relist due to minimal participation, would have been a better approach.  JGHowes   talk  01:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the response, I appreciate it. The problem I'm having is that there's been some sports AfDs closed recently which don't reflect the guidance at WP:NSPORTS that the SNG only predicts the GNG and that WP:GNG must be met for sports articles - this one's a little strange since it was renominated pretty quickly, but I don't know how to make any stronger of an argument than "fails WP:GNG." SportingFlyer  T · C  12:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021). Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
 * Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

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DYK for Perry F. Rockwood
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DYK for Lorin Whitney
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021). Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
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 * The 2021 Desysop Policy RfC was closed with no consensus. Consensus was found in a previous RfC for a community based desysop procedure, though the procedure proposed in the 2021 RfC did not gain consensus.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 43
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Articles for deletion/KWDC-LP
Greetings. I actually don't think we've ever interacted before, so thanks for all you do. Question on this AfD, while I agree if you simply count the !votes, it's 5-3 to keep, if you count the votes based on policy alone, it's 3-0. Since WP:BCAST is simply an essay, and is not a policy/guideline. WP:SNG says "Editors are cautioned that these WikiProject notability guidance pages should be treated as essays and do not establish new notability standards, lacking the weight of broad consensus of the general and subject-specific notability guidelines in various discussions" Can I ask your thoughts? The reason I'm curious is that other recent SNG's (e.g. NFOOTY, NCRIC) have recently started to be re-evaluated and to no longer trump GNG. Thanks.  Onel 5969  TT me 21:04, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, User:onel5969, you're welcome, and thanks for your many fine contributions, especially in the area of broadcasting. In this AfD, your stated reason for deletion was: "Does not meet WP:BCAST". Thus, the case for deletion was argued on that basis by the participants. As closing admin, I had to evaluate the strength of arguments accordingly and it seemed that there was a narrow consensus that BCAST was met (albeit, very marginally, I would add). To rule on grounds other than the reason given for deletion and the ensuing discussion would undoubtedly be construed as an improper admin "supervote". &mdash;   JGHowes   talk  22:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you. My bad then, I should have included GNG in the original rationale.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 23:42, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Sorry to bug you.  But I think this should go to an RFC to firmly establish whether or not the SNG should be policy and trump GNG.  I've only done a few RFC's, and never about something like this.  Where would I begin one?   Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 00:43, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose the RFC could pose the question re WP:NMEDIA: should it still be considered WP:SUPPLEMENTAL or now an accepted community-vetted guideline?  JGHowes   talk  01:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , despite the spurious personal attack, without any basis in reality below, I don't think that an RFC in the specialty would be appropriate. Perhaps at some page regarding notability, like the talk page for GNG?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * What you are suggesting could be considered FORUMSHOPPING. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #FF7518;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 02:43, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , no, what I'm suggesting is a neutral court, without prejudice. You've already shown your animus. Take care.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 03:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Right. Love the $2 words, by the way.  I can understand those, ya know.  A "neutral court" was the AfD.  Decision made and ruled on by The Honorable "Judge" JGHowes.  What you are doing is looking for a "higher court".  Which is FORUMSHOPPING.  Things didn't go your way, you didn't get the response you wanted, so you are looking for someone else (ie: "higher court").  By the way, JGHowes, is an admin. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #FF7518;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 03:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, it should be noted, One15969 is keeping logs for their CSDs, PRODs, and XfDs. This appears, to me at least, to be a numbers game to them. As in how many deletions they can get. Their contribs are just solid deletion requests and bugging editors when they don't get their way.

The AfD in question (of KWDC-LP), which became about the notability of NMEDIA itself at the end, was a Keep. That "Keep" gave NMEDIA (or BCAST) renewed precedence-setting consensus, more than it already had. NMEDIA has never been used as a "trump" of GNG, but as a recommendation. We have also used BCASTOUTCOMES in conjuction with NMEDIA/BCAST. Both of these are used within N and GNG and in conjuction with.

I will repeat again, neither NMEDIA/BCAST nor BCASTOUTCOMES have ever been used to "trump" GNG. They are used as a recommendation for how N and GNG should be used and have been used for the past 15+ years.

Again, though, I believe One15969's "efforts" are disingenuous and the user is only out to up their delete count. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #FF7518;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 01:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021). Administrator changes
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Your AfD close
Hi. Could you explain the process you applied when closing Articles for deletion/Magdalen Berns (2nd nomination)? I'm curious, as the closing statement seems to be a bit short. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:55, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram reply.svg Sure. For the most part, those in favor of keeping the article based their case for notability on the few secondary sources that, in their view, are sufficiently reliable. Although RSP is clearly an issue debated at length in this AfD, there was an almost 3 to 1 definitive consensus to keep, even after discounting those keep !votes found to be wanting because they weren't based on a clear understanding of our policies, or other extraneous arguments that carry little or no weight at AfD. For these reasons, I concluded that another "no consensus" close or Delete close was untenable, and that a Relist would likely accomplish the same outcome. &mdash;  JGHowes   talk  01:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe that statement, modified to suit the environment, should form part of the close. I also came here to ask for your full rationale. Note that I was the nominator, but only in a technical sense, and have chosen not to have an opinion on the article itself. I am not arguing with your close, just asking that the full rationale be for ever associated with the discussion Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 07:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅  JGHowes   talk  11:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I think that is now justice being seen to be done. To me it is an excellent closing rationale. It will never please everyone, but that is the way of things. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 11:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

William Dickson (Falklands)
Hi, just getting in touch as I have seen you work as an uninvolved admin in AfD's, if I'm talking to the wrong person, apologies. I opened a deletion discussion for this article, due to lack of WP:SIGCOV, another user then assured me that such exists in a book I have no access to and I have no reason to doubt them. Therefore I wish to withdraw the AfD, is that possible? All the best. Boynamedsue (talk) 04:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see you've already stated your intent to withdraw the AfD nom based on AGF. Just strike-thru your opening deletion statement with an edit summary, "Deletion nom withdrawn", and I've Closed the AfD accordingly.  JGHowes   talk  12:13, 14 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Many thanks, all the best. Boynamedsue (talk) 16:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
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Precious anniversary
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User "Vgy7ujm" violating copyright
Good afternoon, I write you because this user has violated Wikipedia's TOS for a second time. Below I share a link to the first copyright warning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vgy7ujm#Copyright_violation

I attempted to delete his contribution at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services#Site_traffic since the only source of the table is https://www.alexa.com/

Which gives no permission to re-distribute its content in any form. https://www.alexa.com/help/terms

After just 9 hours of my deletion, he reverted the edit.

Please deal with this guy as he seems to not care/understand the legal issues of copyright.

Best, Francisco Ferioli Marco (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC).

https://franciscoferiolimarco.neocities.org/ Francisco Ferioli Marco (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * After looking this over, I do not believe that a compilation of data referencing various Alexa webpages as the cited sources is a copyright violation. Should you disagree, you could post your concern at WP:CP for other admins to weigh in.  JGHowes   talk  17:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 46
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