User talk:JHunterJ/Archive 13

Batman (disambiguation)
On here, the redirect Batman (video game) is being used over its target Batman computer and video games. Is that ok per the guidelines? If so, shouldn't we use something like "Batman (franchise)" over Batman franchise media in the see also section? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Batman (video game) is probably a redirect in need of deletion -- it would be an incomplete dab, since there are (I assume) multiple video games listed on the target page. Batman franchise media is fine -- people don't normally refer to the franchise media as "Batman" by itself. Talk:Batman (disambiguation) would be the normal place to ask the questions first. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's fine. That pretty much answers my questions. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Gavin.collins RFC/U
Hello. A request for comment on user conduct has recently been filed regarding Gavin.collins. Since you had endorsed at least one summary in the prior Request for Comment, I thought that you would want to know. You can see the RFC/U here. Thank you. BOZ (talk) 00:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the pointer. Added my outside view there. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Appreciated, thanks! BOZ (talk) 18:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for endorsing one or more summaries in the RFC. Please note that two proposals have been put forward on how we can move on after the RFC: Casliber's proposal and Randomran's proposal. Please take the time to look over these proposals, and consider endorsing one of them, or writing one of your own. Thanks again for your participation! BOZ (talk) 03:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sailor Moon (disambiguation)
This one might need some adjustments. And now that I've realized it, it might be best if we replaced List of Sailor Moon episodes (season 1) with one of its redirects, for clarity. Which do you suggest: Sailor Moon (arc), Sailor Moon (first series), Sailor Moon (first season) or Sailor Moon (season 1)? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the list of episodes needs to be included in the dab list. Readers looking for it can get to it from Sailor Moon, and none of the episodes is known as "Sailor Moon". Similarly with the list of video games. If kept, they should be moved down for a "See also" section (along with Sailor Chibi Moon and Sailor ChibiChibi Moon, neither of whom are likely to be referred to as Sailor Moon).  -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, but what if someone is looking for the 1st season, which is known as "Sailor Moon"? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Then either they'll be disappointed, since there's no article about the first series, or they can read the anime section of Sailor Moon (which links to the list of episodes if they need it). -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Got it . Is there anything that I should have moved to a see also section? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Any of the deleted entries could have been moved to see also, as I mentioned above. I don't know if any of them should have been so moved. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll leave it at that. Thanks, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Mangel
Why would one want to separate the named individuals from the disambiguation page? Right now you have one-stop shopping. --Bejnar (talk) 08:37, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Because named individuals who aren't known by a single name aren't in need of disambiguation by that name. See WikiProject Anthroponymy for some of the history on this split. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

disambiguation guru needed for Abkhazia article
Hello, I've been informed that you are good with disambiguation pages. I was wondering if you would be able to assist me please? Here is my proposal Talk:Abkhazia. There are six articles related to the word "Abkhazia" and I believe that when the word "Abkhazia" is searched, it should lead to a disambiguation page. I would do it myself, however some of the pages are blocked, stopping me from from performing the edit. If you look at Talk:Abkhazia, you should know what needs doing. I would be grateful if you could do this please. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 16:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, sorry to barge in here like this, but may I ask that you wait for the discussion on the talk page of the Abkhazia article to come to a conclusion before taking any action? sephia karta  |  di mi  17:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries; I won't rush through a move in the midst of discussion. I suggested an approach on the talk page. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Template synonyms
I explained it to someone else here a while ago. Hopefully that makes sense.  jj137  ( talk )  03:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course. I've somewhat been "working on" lately to try and, if I am going to do that, fix anything else on the page while I'm there (which is what you suggested). I think from now on I won't save the page unless other (visible) things are being fixed as well.   jj137   ( talk )  03:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

North American Numbering Plan
Your recent edit to this page added a "1" before the area "202" code, in the following sentence:
 * For example, when a caller dialed " 202-555-1212", the switching equipment would recognize that "202" was an area code because of the middle 0, and route the call appropriately.

While I am not sure about area code 202 (DC), I do know that in my area (Long Island, NY - then area code 516; now 516 & 631), it was NOT necessary to prefix the area code with a "1" since the switching equipment recognized the "0" or "1" in the second digit. In fact, callers using a "1" prefix would receive an error message saying that the "1" was not necessary and they had to redial without it. I'm not sure when this changed, but I believe 516 was one of the last areas in the nation to require the leading "1" for area codes.

bam (talk) 05:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Heh
Apparently someone has gotten us mixed up.  jj137  (talk)  02:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

TLC
I can't figure out how to improve this edit. What's your take on this? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Afterward, I'd like it very much if you would chime in to this conversation. Regards, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it seems to have been taken care of, but the TLC case is still open. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The Gambia
A noticed you recent removal of "the Gambia"->"The Gambia" from RegExTypoFix. The change was good because the phrase can create false positives. However, I just wanted to let you know that when it is referring to the country the "The" in "The Gambia" is always capitalized. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not always: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gambia, for instance, and (I believe by extension) in AP Style. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. --ThaddeusB (talk) 00:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Sakura (disambiguation)
I'm kind of afraid to undo this good faith edit, mainly because I have doubt in whether the nihongo template is necessary at all. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The kanji & hiragana are probably not necessary, and without them there is no need for the nihongo template. I think you could pursue on Talk:Sakura (disambiguation) or User talk:Moocowsrule -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:18, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No thanks. That's all I wanted to know, plus I recall the guideline discourages these types of trivial templates and linkage. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:33, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You miss the point. The suggestion to pursue in the appropriate forums first would be beneficial to me. Talk with the other editor on his talk page or the page's talk page first usually, or ask on one of the project talk pages if you need clarification. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't have anything else to say, so I can't pursue the matter further. However, I'll stick with the WP:BRD thingy before coming to you I guess. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Query
Since you aren't participating in the discussion at WT:MOSDAB anymore I thought I'd ask you here. The reason why I said "To be concise, it is preferable to link the piped sentence to the size of the description after it begins with a preposition, or little words like "a", "an", "the", etc." is that I wanted to be clear that linking a piped entry to a single link makes it look mundane (e.g., someone looking at Dragon Ball will assume it's the article Dragon Ball). Maybe that should've been conveyed in my edit. Do you get what I mean? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I do now. This change might cover it? -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:20, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Kinda. Do you think it may be rectified further by saying that the description linking should begin after the "little word"? Or is that obvious enough? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think the "little word" guidance needs to be written into the guidelines. It is a possible (and even likely) side-effect of the intent, but not the intent itself. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Got it ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

One last thing, the line in the MoS that says:


 * "There are other situations when creating a pipe link is preferred to linking to a redirect..."

Wouldn't it be better off if it was:


 * "There are certain situations when creating a pipe link is preferred to linking to a redirect..."

Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless all of the situations are about to be definitively listed, I don't think "certain situations" is needed. There are other situations, and one of them is about to be given as an example. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Malplaced Good Vibrations (disambiguation)
Hi. Since you have much experience with malplaced dab pages, what would you do with Good Vibrations (disambiguation) and Good vibrations, considing both of their page histories and the (non-admin) result of Articles for deletion/Good vibrations? Feel free to take action instead of telling me what to do. I'll just look up what you did, afterwards. – sgeureka t•c 00:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooops, I forgot to mention there is also Good Vibrations. Do nothing then? – sgeureka t•c 00:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Made it a redir to Good Vibrations with an explanation in the edit summary. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Kenji Yamamoto
There appear to be one too many templates here. Is this normal or is the standard DisambigProject supposed to be the only one here? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Karen
Remember that old thread you left at Talk:Karen? You never got around to doing it. I'm assuming it's because you forgot, or changed your mind. Which is it? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Concern
You once told me to mark redirected talk pages with db-maintenance right? Well, this sysop disagreed. What should be done now? I don't know what else to say (or where to say it) in order to support its deletion. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The sysop redirected the talk page too. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Come again? There is no rationale in keeping the talk page alive, it's but a waste of space. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * User talk:B -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it turns out that he doesn't believe in deleting talk pages. As such, I have decided to refrain from tagging them with db-maintenance from here on. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:48, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hungarian changes unhelpful
While I understand that you have a good understanding of disambiguation, some of the changes that you make are unhelpful and would be better discussed rather than imposed. Your removal of the Kingdom of Hungary links are unhelpful as the current country of Hungary is different from the Kingdom of Hungary. In no way am I an expert, however, having regularly disambig'd the page, I know a little about the links. Thanks -- billinghurst (talk) 23:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That was a bold edit. Being different isn't enough to be disambiguate-able. The Kingdom of Hungary is indeed different than the country of Hungary, but it is doubtful that any reader seeking the Kingdom of Hungary is going to do so by entering "Hungarian" in the search box. But if you disagree with that edit, you are welcome to revert it. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It helps to have these extra links there when a disambig is undertaken on such pages with the popups or AWB tools. - billinghurst (talk) 11:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation pages are navigational aids for readers. If that makes them useful to tools, great, but that doesn't mean that they then get edited to further help the tools. Edits should further assist the readers. Now, maybe disambiguating "Hungarian" to "Kingdom of Hungary" is useful to readers -- if you're using it in the tool, it sounds like some of the incoming links to Hungarian intended the Kingdom.  If so, I agree with its restoration, but because that will help the readers using those links, not because it will help the tools. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:34, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Harry Potter HP dab
I wanted to drop you a line, since months ago, I said that we would revisit the matter of HP as a dab term for Harry Potter. I didn't agree then (and for the most part do not agree now) with that assessment, but I wanted to apologize either way. I handled the matter poorly, and should have worked harder to convince you without taking it to a personal level. I look forward to addressing other issues and editing with you more professionally. Again, sorry for not being as professional as I should have been. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  15:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Arcayne. Thanks for the note, and the good outlook. -- JHunterJ (talk) 03:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Akira (name)
Is it normal for a non-dab page to have two name tags? I know you normally deal with disambiguation matters, but I'd like to hear about your experience with these things. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that other dab editors have found that multiple block tags like those look cluttered and so prefer to have just the dab tag. But I don't know about anthroponymy lists.  I doesn't look as bad on a long list like that.  I suppose it could also be split into a given name list article and a surname list article though. -- JHunterJ (talk) 03:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. If you decide split them yourself, leave the rest to me. Up for it? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)