User talk:JJMC89/Archives/2016/November

Template:split to and Template:split from
Hello JJMC89, you recently changed the "to" parameter in these templates from PAGENAME to FULLPAGENAME. After auto-substing this results in with a nonsensical "Material from Luftwaffe was split to Talk: German Air Force" message instead of displaying the main article page. The former parameter setting seems to have been correct, the new one produces this error. As I am not experienced enough with the whole auto-substing routine, I am hesitant to revert this immediately myself - especially while AnomieBOT is currently working on these cases. But it would be good if you could double-check the results please. Pinging aswell, who did the latest edits in both templates. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 07:32, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm replying at the main discussion. Primefac (talk) 14:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, . I should have corrected the template to use, not  . In this case, reverting my edit would have been a good idea since the substitution was working for article talk pages but not other talk pages of which there were few cases. My blunder was cleaned up thanks to . Sorry about the mess. —&thinsp;JJMC89 02:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
I keep making the mistake of thinking if perhaps I added more refrence I would be able to remove the added templates. I'm only a newbie And learning as fast as I can. I'm sorry Celestina007 (talk) 01:35, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls
Always something new to learn and do on Wikipedia! Tell me more about "Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls" and how to fix them. First thing is to avoid creating them. Sorry, AWB and my setup instructions did that. Second is to detect them (PetScan), and third is to fix them. I see how to fix them by direct manual changes, but perhaps there is a tool.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 23:44, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The pages with them are categorized here. findargdups can be used to help find them when editing a page. As far as I know, there isn't a tool to correct them (semi)automatically. —&thinsp;JJMC89 00:58, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * fixes an unambiguous subset of these errors automatically. The other ones need to be fixed by hand. Even with the findargdups script, you have to use your brain. Often, it's a typo, other times it's vandalism, and other times it's just an oversight. See and its talk page for more information and background. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:28, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Sifting through common mistakes
Hi, I see you have sifted through so many Common Mistakes pages, you use a bot right? TwistedByFate (talk) 04:27, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . No, I don't use a bot, but I do use AutoWikiBrowser. —&thinsp;JJMC89 06:49, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Habib Ullah Jan Afridi
Hi, JJMC89 could you explain why you have taken off the speedy delete? i believe that it fulfills the criteria WP:G4 perfectly. This person's page has been deleted numerous times-

This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habib_Ullah_Afridi


 * 18:15, 21 September 2016 DGG (talk | contribs) deleted page Habib Ullah Afridi (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: A7: Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject)
 * 11:04, 21 September 2016 SpacemanSpiff (talk | contribs) deleted page Habib Ullah Afridi (A7: No indication that the article may meet the guidelines for inclusion (CSDH))
 * 05:48, 21 September 2016 Jimfbleak (talk | contribs) deleted page Habib Ullah Afridi (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: no independent sources, no evidence of notability, self-written vanity page)
 * 14:01, 3 February 2013 Bbb23 (talk | contribs) deleted page Habib Ullah Afridi (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, web content or organized event): G11)

Before recreating the page by adding a middle name to the same name the person who created the new page left this message on this page Talk page

''I have tried to create page on Habib Ullah Afridi, but the name is protected by admin. He is a notable person and I have a perfect source links, kindly allow me to create. Thanks. Wania Khan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:34, 8 November 2016 (UTC)''

Regards --Domdeparis (talk) 09:30, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * From G4: This applies to sufficiently identical copies [...] of a page deleted via its most recent deletion discussion. [...] This criterion also does not cover content [...] that was deleted via [...] speedy deletion. There hasn't been a previous deletion discussion, so G4 does not apply. —&thinsp;JJMC89 15:17, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok I get it thanks for that I should have read the last line of G4 criteria. What does one do when an editor recreates the page with a slightly different name to get around the fact that the page is protected by admin? Is there a speedy delete that can be applied? Domdeparis (talk) 15:55, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * If there was a previous deletion discussion, then G4 would apply. Otherwise, the criteria for speedy deletion apply to the new page as they would any other page. There aren't any criteria for deleting a page that was created under a different name when one name is WP:SALTed; however, previous deletions may have used criteria that still apply to the new article. —&thinsp;JJMC89 16:24, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Coordinate parameters replacement
While the bot's been approved, I'm not entirely sure if this is written correctly, so could you do a test run of 25 to check that it's not broken? Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:37, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I will check the config before I run it. The bot also does some checks on the config when starting. —&thinsp;JJMC89 02:10, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Also, some infoboxes like Geobox/type/river have multiple sets of coordinates. Can the bot perform multiple replacements on the same page at once? Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 15:13, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Currently it cannot, but I can add functionality to do it. —&thinsp;JJMC89 02:10, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Kylie Cosmetics


the kylie cosmetics page had good sources and create a page for more people to add. Its a company know by millions and will have more information. Thank for trying to help but the information is right — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devinciobrown (talk • contribs) 23:33, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't have good sourcing. Wikia is not a reliable source. Also, see WP:NCORP. —&thinsp;JJMC89 23:38, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * , I suggest that you use WP:AFC. The company's website cannot be used to establish notability. —&thinsp;JJMC89 23:45, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Podar World School
Did you really mean to reinstate blatantly promotional language in this edit? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 15:21, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks 88. No, I did not. I have reverted back to the language that you had. —&thinsp;JJMC89 16:11, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought it must have been accidental. I fully expect this article to be turned back into an advertisement tomorrow morning Mumbai time, so we'll probably have some more reverting to do. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 17:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

For nominating Nandana Lokuwithana for deletion

 * Thanks, ! —&thinsp;JJMC89 06:38, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

About Dr. Biju
Hi there! I understand why A11 would be too much here, but why remove COI template. The history clearly shows contributions by a user with similar name. Would like to hear your thoughts. {Please ping me as I am not watching.) Ciao, Jean Stair (talk) 06:38, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . The article also has autobiography, which conveys about the same thing as COI. I see no value in having both. —&thinsp;JJMC89 16:16, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, I missed that one. Makes sense. Jean Stair (talk) 16:34, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Plaza Sesamo
Hi! I saw you reverted my colleague's edits to Plaza Sesamo because of WP:COI. Sorry about that! I started a new thread on the talk page to propose the change. If you could review it, that'd be great. Thanks! -DNL (talk) 19:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're talking about, . I have never edited . —&thinsp;JJMC89 02:12, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Template:Infobox islands
Heyo! Your recent change to Template:Infobox islands seems to have broken the template... Normally I would just fix it rather than reverting but I'm not certain what you were trying to achieve so I figured best to let you fix it. However, since it completely broke the template, I reverted it for now. Let me know if I can help. -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 06:18, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up; I've fixed it. I missed  to close the . —&thinsp;JJMC89 06:28, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries! Been there SOOOOOO many times. :-) -- Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 06:29, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Bots/Requests for approval/JJMC89 bot 7
Your task Bots/Requests for approval/JJMC89 bot 7 request has been approved, with a ramp-up schedule. Please see the BRFA for details. — xaosflux  Talk 14:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC) —&thinsp;JJMC89 21:02, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't recall seeing any problems that the bot caused during the above edits. We human editors have encountered all sorts of quirks during the initial template preparation before the bot's run through a given template's transclusions, but the bot has been robust and well-behaved. Pinging for any feedback. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:59, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries, you should have gotten complaints by now if there were any large scale issues. — xaosflux  Talk 01:43, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer - RfC
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Coords
Please note that your change to Fort Tryon Park caused there to be a blank "coordinates" field in the infobox. Such changes should not be made if this is the case. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC) to reply to me 08:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC) to reply to me 09:40, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * First, I did not make the edit; my bot did. Second, the coordinates were not displayed in the first place. Changing title to inline,title fixes the issue. —&thinsp;JJMC89 01:56, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * First, and last,  you  are responsible for every edit your bot makes. Please don't ever use that excuse again, especially when your bot's talk page redirects to yours. Thanks for fixing the problem. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:18, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * : The bot's edit did not change the rendered article, as far as I can tell. The coordinates were displayed at the top of the article (and not in the infobox) before and after the bot's edit. If the template's documentation is not correct, I'll be happy to fix it for you. Let me know. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:50, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of infoboxes will not display the name of a field if the field is blank. JJMC89 fixed the problem I reported in the NHRP infobox by adding "inline" to the coord template, however, since the lack of "inline" does not display the coordinates in the infobox, the infobox template really ought not to display "Coordinates" under those circumstances. The problem, therefore, appears to be in the NHRP infobox template itself, and not in the documentation. (Personally, I see no need for a coordinates field to be displayed in an infobox almost directly underneath the coordinates displayed at the top of the article, it seems needlessly redundant.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:04, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see now. This is a problem with the infobox's code. If title is used in the coord template, the infobox displays Coordinates without any corresponding information. Hmm. The template tests for  to see whether it displays the word "Coordinates", so maybe we need to test an invocation of the coord module in a similar way in that if statement. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:37, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The easiest way would probably be to do something like  for the label, although we might want to put that in a template instead of in each infobox because Coord syntax is very likely to change after Kartographer's   tag is allowed in articles. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;
 * I think should be moved out of the infobox when editors don't want coordinates displayed in the infobox. There isn't a point in nesting  in the infobox in that case. —&thinsp;JJMC89 08:24, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The issue with that is that coordinates is now the preferred method for displaying a location map, so it is necessary, but only for the 38,206 articles without their coordinates on Wikidata. Jc86035 (talk) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125;

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November 2016
Please Don't Block Me! Thank You! :) JordanBaumann1211 (talk) 20:43, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Basketball Wives LA
I honestly don't know how to revert edits, other than just reediting it back to the way it was, and it's difficult to that, because the user completely vandalized the table! Zhyboo (talk) 01:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've reverted the edits for you. See WP:UNDO for how to undo edits. —&thinsp;JJMC89 02:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much!! :-D Zhyboo (talk) 02:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)