User talk:JLL AP

Thanks again
Yeah of course I did realize this. I was a bit mad so my words were out of control. Well, I'll just take part in talkpages for now, if I have the time. One more thing, can you sign your posts whenever you talk on my page? --- OK nevermind, no need to sign. Now I already know who you are. That doesn't matter though. I have my CFA to be busy with anyway. JLL AP (talk) 13:09, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Well there's always someone else who wants to get the last words in too
Not sure if you realised it but nothing ever is deleted on wikipedia. But at least your words will last for eternity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JLL_AP&diff=280345284&oldid=280337636

As a famous wikipedian (whose name will always remain anonymous) once said .. learn from "History" and all shall be revealed diffs and all ;-)

Last words
This page of mine is filled with hilarious warnings from admins. I'll keep it like this so visitors on my page can see how capable Wikipedia admins are and how creative they can get when trying to warn contributors.

(Read from bottom up)

Thanks
Dear admins,

You should've signed the page below.

I won't bother reading all of the below. The whole point is to urge me to exercise caution anyway, which is what I have always been doing.

Remember, Wikipedia after all is a free project which needs support from contributors. Nobody trusts it completely anyway.

In business, people do not open Wikipedia to look for company info. They use paid subscriptions such as Reuters, Bloomberg, OneSource, and the like.

Company info written on Wikipedia is for the benefit of the wide public (and for this benefit, each and every single piece of information need only be third-party verifiable). It is NOT written for the benefit of investors or potential customers since they do not use Wikipedia.

I can simply walk away and withdraw my contributions (which is what I will do).

How to avoid an embarrassing situation
Hi there. In case you didn't know, there are guidelines for editing wikipedia articles where a conflict of interest may exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Financial To summarise the main points: If you are receiving monetary or other benefits or considerations to edit Wikipedia as a representative of an organization (whether directly as an employee or contractor of that organization)then we very strongly encourage you to avoid editing Wikipedia in areas where there is a conflict of interest that would make your edits non-neutral (biased). Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy states that all articles must represent views fairly and without bias, and conflicts of interest do significantly and negatively affect Wikipedia's ability to fulfill this requirement. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a forum for advertising or self-promotion, or a vanity press. As such, it should contain only material that complies with its content policies, and Wikipedians must place the interests of the encyclopedia first. Adding material that appears to promote the interests or visibility of an article's employer or their business interests, places the author in a conflict of interest. An editor with a conflict of interest who wishes to suggest substantive changes to an article should use that article's talk page. When making a request please consider disclosing your conflict of interest to avoid misunderstanding.

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * 1) editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
 * 2) participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
 * 3) linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam); and,
 * 4) avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines.

Please consider the stories below of employees who didn't understand how a COI issue ended up costing them their job, once journalists notice a COI & POV problem: No employer is worth becoming unemployable for or personally and publicly humiliated.

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/08/phorm_censors_wikipedia/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6947532.stm http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/15197025/detail.html

Suggestions to Admins

(1) Work hard. Explain policies in greater details by providing examples and practical applications rather than referring to generic guidelines. Note that an ordinary contributor does not have the time to go through pages of guidelines and policies. Unexplained actions from admins would discourage contributors from contributing.

(2) Be specific. Look into contributors' writings more closely and provide specific comments after making corrections to their writings.

(3) Be positive. Assume good intentions from contributors and use this as a starting point. Do not rely on technical issues (e.g. IP lookups) and make false allegations.

RE: Jones Lang LaSalle

Please explain more.

(1) There is no original research in my contribution to the article Jones Lang LaSalle. All analyses make reference to independent sources, which cannot be deemed personal analysis.

(2) Please explain why the current comments in the article Jones Lang LaSalle are considered as promotional material, while the same tone is being used in McKinsey & Company, UBS AG

RE: Jones Lang LaSalle

Hello, Pamarro251

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia.

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion.

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