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Hi please can you add is an American politician in the introduction of the Donald Trump article just like how you added nationality to Kim Jong Un. It is more clearer and it creates better grammar. I would appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.90.39.11 (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * There is consensus at Talk:Donald_Trump (specifically point 17) which provides the currently-preferred form of the first paragraph. Feel free to raise it on the talk page of that article if you wish to suggest and gain consensus for an alternate version. stwalkerster (talk) 19:59, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Totally and unequivocally agree with stwalkerster. This has been discussed at length on the talk page of Donald Trump. Please consider discussing with the editors of that page, and not me because I will certainly not be conducting such a disruptive edit without consensus or my agreement Thanks. JLo-Watson (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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Alun Davies (politician) - and other politicans
Hi, thanks for your edit to this page yesterday. There's a lot of inconsistency and gaps in the pages of various Welsh Politicians, something I'm trying to address.

Is there an agreement on which office should appear at the top of the info box? Using the example of Alun Davies, he's been a junior minister twice and a cabinet minister twice as well as being elected to two seats in the Assembly - A total of six offices, one of which he still holds. Should the current one be at the top? What do you personally think about including his three other ministerial offices in the info box (2 junior posts and one other cabinet level post)? Littlemonday (talk) 11:58, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for your message. What tends to be the case with political articles is that we put recent offices at the top of the info-box; even if they are no longer incumbent office holders, and the constituencies remain at the bottom of the info-box. I think this practice should continue. So that being said, I would go with the most recent office other than AM held i.e. Local Government Cabinet Sec at the top, followed by other ministerial/junior ministerial offices previously held; followed by the current AM role. Best Wishes JLo-Watson (talk) 23:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Sri Lanka
Hi Rajapakse term ended en 14 November. See Parliament website. Also, it was only chairman G. L. Peiris's opinion in your article. So if we consider that Rajapakse is still in office we should also add that Wickremesinghe is still in power. --Panam2014 (talk) 21:09, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello there. Mahinda Rajapaksa remains Prime Minister until he steps down. He remains PM, and under all legal citations Wickremesinghe was in fact simply dismissed, and Rajapaksa was appointed in his place by the President. In regards to his term ending on November 14th 2018, that is incorrect. The Courts simply suspended his duties and responsibilities as leader; however, he from that period he remained Prime Minister albeit in a position without the full duties and powers. JLo-Watson (talk) 23:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * He have just resigned. And for the challenging against Wickremesinghe's dismissal? But Rajapaksa have just resigned today. --Panam2014 (talk) 01:22, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Speakers & majority leaders
Howdy, the additions you're making to the Speakers & majority leader areas, are only confusing. House Speaker & House Majority leader are separate positions, which aren't held by the same person. GoodDay (talk) 01:57, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Example: When you added Dennis Hastert to John Boehner's infobox. You added him as Leader, that's confusing. You should've added Hastert as Speaker. GoodDay (talk) 02:04, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Agreed - I’ll begin implementing the role of Speaker instead. Thanks JLo-Watson (talk) 12:05, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Intro to Nancy Pelosi
Howdy. The House of Representatives have not yet voted for Speaker. One only becomes speaker-designate, following one's election & before one's sworn-in. This won't occur until January 3, 2019. Right now, there's two candidate for the speakership (Nancy Pelosi & Kevin McCarthy). Even though it's highly likely that Pelosi will be elected (due to Democrats having the majority), we still went until the election actually occurs :) GoodDay (talk) 14:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey there. Good to hear from you again, its great to have positive co-operation/discussion between editors. With this being said, I believe the terminology you have used is incorrect here. Pelosi has been widely-referred to as 'Speaker-designate'. Indeed, the official Democratic Leader website has changed as a result (See www.democraticleader.gov). If you look at the official speaker designate article, you will see that it states "Speaker-designate is a member of the United States House of Representatives or other lower house who has been selected by the caucus of the majority party to be nominated as Speaker of the House, but who has not yet taken office or been elected by the full House of Representatives, as it is still occupied by the previous Speaker" - essentially meaning that Speaker-designate becomes applicable when re-elected leader of the House Democrats, as she was weeks ago, as they are the Party with the majority so she will essentially become Speaker if Dems vote her way. This differs from the position of 'speaker-elect' which is applicable when she has actually been elected by the House of Representatives and has not yet taken the oath of office from the Dean of the United States House of Representatives. Obviously, it is just hours away before her extraordinarily-likely second term as Speaker, so I don't really believe that having my lede paragraph up there really matters too much, so I will restore it based on this. If you object/revert that is absolutely fine as I appreciate your comment, and after all, it will be resolved on the 3rd anyway and the paragraph I edited would be applicable anyway Thanks :) JLo-Watson (talk) 18:32, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I improved the wording & added similar info to McCarthy's intro. Both are nominees for the Speakership. GoodDay (talk) 21:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: We don't have such intries for Chuck Grassley & Patrick Leahy, the nominees for President pro tempore of the United States Senate. -- GoodDay (talk) 21:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Excellent. Good compromise and clarified both misconceptions. Thanks! JLo-Watson (talk) 21:39, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Not trying to be argumentative, both I don't see the issue with pointing out that Pelosi is both a two-time House Speaker and two-time Minority Leader. Never assume that the reader can just "figure it out for themselves", as no two readers are alike.  Just trying to add some info that is actually pertinent as it's not often that someone has multiple stints in these roles. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 24 September 2020
As an editor in good standing, would you mind looking at and hopefully closing the move discussion on Talk:Richard Leonard (Scottish politician). I will be happy to move the page and disambiguation page and add hatnotes. Alex (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know Alex, I agree. Have responded to the talk discussion. JLo-Watson (talk) 21:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Pete Buttigieg
I did do some digging and Buttigieg is the youngest Secretary of Transportation cabinet member and the youngest in Biden's Cabinet. I also found out it was Alexander Hamilton that was the youngest Cabinet Secretary. I looked up Attorney General and it is one of the highest Cabinet level positions. However it still is not a Secretary Cabinet position just a high level Cabinet position. Buttigieg will technically be the second youngest after Hamilton. He out beats Castro who was 39 years 10 months while Buttigieg is 39 years 2 weeks old.Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 00:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I did put in the article that Buttigieg was the youngest member of Biden’s Cabinet (not as a whole) but it was removed by another user so perhaps consult them JLo-Watson (talk) 01:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

On further notice, I dispute that. Attorney General is the Head of the Department of Justice. It is not Cabinet level it is a Cabinet Secretary JLo-Watson (talk) 01:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

JLo-Watson Thank you for clearing that up we shall see if someone reverts it.Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 03:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

JLo-Watson May I ask if it would be alright to put that Pete Buttigieg is the youngest Secretary of Transportation in U.S. I know that we came to an agreement that Alexander Hamilton and Robert F. Kennedy were the youngest Cabinet secretaries in U.S. history. I wanted to ask you if saying Buttigieg is the youngest Secretary of Transoprtion in U.S. History is okay. He is the youngest Secretary of Transportation in history according to an article that says it true.Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 14:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcometothenewmillenium Shouldn't see a problem with that as long as you can find a suitable reference! JLo-Watson (talk) 16:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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Premiership of Nicola Sturgeon
Hi,

Premiership of Nicola Sturgeon which you suggested on Nicola Sturgeon’s talk page has been created. It contains the content from the first minister section of Nicola Sturgeon’s article. Could you amend it accordingly so it’s not the same? Thank you. 2A00:23C5:2C01:9501:18B7:658A:A39C:62EA (talk) 00:19, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

de facto Deputy Prime Ministers
Hi JLo. A couple of weeks ago, we added de facto Deputy Prime Minister to Willie Whitelaw's infobox. I think that this was a positive edit and I wondered what you thought about adding de facto deputy to more infoboxes. I think that the main task in doing so would be to determine who these de facto deputies are. I have been collating lists of unofficial deputies over the past couple of months here, which might be of use, as before any edits take place it probably needs to be determined exactly who does and doesn't qualify and I was hoping that you could help me with this, if you agree that it would be a good idea. Thanks! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 19:03, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Tortoise, yes I agree with you that this could be a useful addition for readers! I will have a look at your list of unofficial deputies. The most obvious issue which immediately comes to mind for me is the predecessors/successors. For example, take Nick Clegg, an official DPM. Do we then say Green, Lidington etc are "successors"? Or perhaps do we not include them as predecessors/successors in the infoboxes of the official DPMs and merely just put the  "defacto" role in the infoboxes of the relevant individuals, i.e. Lidington.

As I am sure you can imagine, this  could create a bit of confusion. Or perhaps, could this be rectified by using footnotes in the infobox. For example, many DPMs already have the "Office vacant" hatnotes etc. Could we then include the de facto deputies as "successors" etc through an explainer in the footnotes?

Hopefully you understand what I am getting at here! But yes, the unofficial deputies are certainly an interesting topic. Thanks, JLo-Watson (talk) 21:02, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Update: Having just seen the Whitelaw infobox in its current form, it is how I suggested above i.e. without the predecessors/successors. I certainly support this being rolled out for the other unofficial/defacto deputies. However, I think it would be useful to put a hatnote or the like in the infobox for each of the defacto Deputy PMs - something with a concise but phrasing to what is on the DPM page - to explain the nature of their role.

Also, I noticed on the DPM page we list the official creation of the role in the infobox as 1995 with Heseltine. I think this could also have a hatnote/explainer as this could confuse some readers, for example, those who automatically assume Atlee was an official DPM!JLo-Watson (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you - that makes a lot of sense to me! It was actually me removed the predecessors and successors from Willie Whitelaw's infobox just a couple of hours ago and it was that which got me thinking about adding de facto Deputy Prime Minister to more infoboxes. Hatnotes explaining what a de facto Deputy Prime Minister is and what an official Deputy Prime Minister is an excellent idea and would definitely be necessary (perhaps we could use a similar statement on every article explaining the difference, with slightly different wording to explain which category the person in question falls into). I also think that, for Michael Heseltine, John Prescott and Nick Clegg, we should use predecessors and successors. As for the others, I might wane against it, but I don't really mind. Finally, when I was relatively new at Wikipedia last Autumn, I tried to (but lost the debate on) removing Deputy Prime Minister from Anthony Eden and Rab Butler's infoboxes. I have more sources/knowledge under my belt now and adding de facto is, I think, very different to removing these statements altogether, but I just wanted to make you aware! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Afghan prime ministers
Hello. Why were you removing the direct links to the Islamic State/Emirate section of Prime Minister of Afghanistan, in the post Democratic republic PM bios? GoodDay (talk) 21:10, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, surely readers can scroll to the appropriate section in the list themselves? Not sure why a “direct” link is necessary and it tends to be that we avoid that practice. We don’t do the same for the head of state of Afghanistan through the various forms of government it has had? JLo-Watson (talk) 01:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If figured it would be better for readers to know what kinda country, each was a prime minister of. GoodDay (talk) 13:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

David Canzini
As you've worked quite a bit on Dominic Cummings, you might be interested in putting something together on David Canzini who was profiled this morning on BBC 4. It was pointed out that he had no Wikipedia page. There's some good background in the FT here. There's also an interesting piece in the Guardian.--Ipigott (talk) 11:07, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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Liz Truss
Hello, a brief note that I strongly support your useful "stepped down" edit, which is being queried on Talk Billsmith60 (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Bill @Billsmith60, thanks for this. I have left a comment on Truss' talk page explaining the rationale for this language choice. Best wishes JLo-Watson (talk) 23:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

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Page creation of Deputy Leader of the Opposition
In one of your edits in Shadow Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, you've said that a page for the Deputy Leader of the Opposition may be created. I totally agree, considering the fact that all Shadow Deputy PM's were DLOTO and that the title is officially called DTOLO, I think you should create for the DLOTO and that I totally agree with you idea, can you create the page for DTOLO please, thanks! 219.77.28.65 (talk) 08:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Yeah I think it seems to make more sense to have a separate Deputy LOTO article and to keep the Shadow Deputy PM / Shadow First Sec of State, etc., distinct articles. There have been several periods in which the Deputy LOTO held neither of the aforementioned offices. I’ll let another editor put together the page, though! Thanks JLo-Watson (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Try to let another editor put together the page as soon as possible since the real title is Deputy Leaser of the Opposition and that no one will be confused, but thanks for helping to create the page! 219.77.28.65 (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)