User talk:JMF/Archives/2014/November

Relocation page
Hi there, long time no see. Just FYI, an MK fan has stuck a POV template on Relocation of Wimbledon F.C. to Milton Keynes just now. He hasn't added any specific concerns on the talk page as of yet but I thought another set of MK eyes might be good. Anyway, hope you're well, take care and have a great week. Cheers —Cliftonian (talk) 16:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * He's put a message on the talk page now. Since I'm the editor he seems to think is biased it might be better if you or somebody else replies to him. —Cliftonian (talk) 16:31, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I've added a comment on the Relocation talk page. He is right though about the Scottish clubs' moves. I didn't spot that deletion or I would have reverted, because it was critical to the WFC board's thinking. Given how little fuss was made of Clyde and livi's moves, I'm sure that no-one expected the brouhaha that happened in this case. I haven't got time now to hunt down and reuse the original text, it'll be a week or more. If you get there first, please go ahead. Thanks for contacting me - makes a change to be on the same side! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:59, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I have put my concerns in an orderly fashion on the talk page :) Abcmaxx (talk) 19:32, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi John, just thought I'd give you a nudge about the conversation we're now having at Abcmaxx's talk page, here. Any thoughts you may have would be welcome. Hope you're well, cheers. —  Cliftonian   (talk)  14:56, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * done --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Linear Park
I added the section on Milton Keynes, amongst other edits, in an effort to clarify what a linear park is. The definitions for both this article and the one on Greenways are confusing. The images on the page seem to show some kind of a park, but the term is used, at times, in a cavalier fashion. A rail trail can, I suppose, be maintained by a municipality as a park, but many I think are maintained like any trail or footpath, and just kept open, so they aren't linear parks. Are you able to define the difference between linear park and greenway? (see Greenway (landscape) Talk page). Rwood128 (talk) 23:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've just seen your comment on the Linear park page and with deal with that.Rwood128 (talk) 23:50, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Ireland
Sorry to revert your recent edit but "Ireland" is ambiguous and confusing. Northern Ireland furthermore is already covered under UK. You are also ignoring potential problems with nationalists! Rwood128 (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page pointing to Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 00:18, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I did in fact see your comment but I'm afraid that I didn't read the WP page. I have now read it and accept your revert. All the same the official name of the country is, I believe. still the Republic of Ireland, while Ireland refers to the island, part of which is also a region of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The use of Ireland has possible political ramifications, in relation to the idea of a united Ireland, and might be offensive to some in Northern Ireland. Wikipedia should be following a more neutral position. Rwood128 (talk) 01:44, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I've just noticed your other comment. UK is fine. Wouldn't the use of Britain as a synonym, for UK, be a similar, inaccurate (but often used?) equivalent to this use of Ireland by Wikipedia? Rwood128 (talk) 01:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I've read further and see that Ireland is used as the official name for the Republic, so that it is more than a matter of consensus, as I had first thought. However, the Wikipedia article Ireland is on the island, and when the country of Ireland is referred to it needs to be linked to The Republic of Ireland. The article "Ireland" does have a disambiguate banner but it should probably also be fully clarified in the lede (or better still the two titles changed). Sorry to have been argumentative. Rwood128 (talk) 12:02, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm surprised by your comment about Britain, because The Oxford Dictionary only indicates that "The name is also often used loosely to refer to the United Kingdom", which is less than what you suggest. Re the British Isles, I recently replaced the odd sounding the Isles, on the British literature article, with "Britain and Ireland" (but without a link) -- and so far no one has objected. This, I believe, leaves out the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. Rwood128 (talk) 19:10, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about the usage "British Islands", it could be useful. Rwood128 (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)