User talk:JMHamo/Archive 10

Jara-Cavani incident
Thanks for the welcome. Let's see if I can produce my first talk. The Jara-Cavani incident is drawing tons of edits on wiki, mostly bad. I am a little concerned that it is actually being downplayed. It was the lead story of the tournament and will likely get Jara suspended and traded, making it very significant in the tournament history and his career.

From Cavani's perspective, if the incident is not properly recorded it will likely be very unfair to him. There is near universal defense of him in the press and on the internet. Without an explanation on his page the incident will likely appear as another where he lost his head on the pitch.

For those reasons I believe it deserves more coverage on both pages and definitely rises to the level of coverage I read about for a BLP.

--JimBM (talk) 11:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Diversity IN Leadership Conference
Hello JMHamo. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Diversity IN Leadership Conference, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: not six months yet - created 16 Jan 2014. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 21:00, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Apologies, scratch that, I misread the year! Time for a break. JohnCD (talk) 21:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much...
...for your support over at my RfA. I shall do my best to be worthy of it. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 08:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Martín Demichelis
Hi there JMH, AL "here",

even though your intentions were 100% correct, there is a glitch in the edit there which you reviewed then accepted. Like my summary says, the other user updated 2014/15 stuff and forgot to do the same with the 2013/14 data, hence my reversion.

Happy editing, cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello :)
can you please provide your opinion on this matter please ? I am neither a liverpool or man united fan so just trying be neutral thank you :) Adnan (talk) 18:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

José Holebas
José got Greek citizenship as Iosef Cholevas not holevas. His Greece kit says Cholevas and his Roma kit said Cholevas. I changed it because it was wrong. 76.182.244.18 (talk) 00:54, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Matěj Vydra
✅ GiantSnowman 11:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

damien duff source
i added that source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thursby16 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

duff
how was that not a reliable source? how many more do you need

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/damien-duff-just-something-proves-6027157 https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/english-football/632321/former-chelsea-star-damian-duff-sign-shamrock-rovers-donate-wages-charity/ http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/transfer_talk/217997/damien-duff-set-to-sign-for-hometown-club-shamrock-rovers-asks-for-wages-to-go-to-charity.html http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2516743-report-damien-duff-to-sign-for-shamrock-rovers-and-give-his-wages-to-charity — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thursby16 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If his signing is "official", why is there no mention of it on the Shamrock Rovers official website? JMHamo (talk) 22:20, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

stop reverting everything i do
now i see you reverted the thing on jose angel tasende... why.... it will be used in the near future so keep it
 * If you are going to edit, could you at least do it properly and not depend on other people to fix your mistakes. Just look at the stats table! JMHamo (talk) 22:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Charlie Moody
Hello, JMHamo, I wanted to discuss the question of the deletion of Moody's page. I don't necessarily disagree with you re. notability, in fact I added WP:NMOTORSPORT to the list of things it fails. But, I was wondering where (if at all) there is a discussion prior to deletion? Moody reached the top elechons of motorsport in Formula One and Moto GP, but I would agree he was not well known outside the sport and did not receive the sort of publicity that Nigel Stepney, Rob Smedley, Simon Rennie and others have had in their careers. Also I noted sometime yesterday that WordPress had been used as a ref. but note now that you have subsequently deleted it. I would have done so myself but for the writer of the 'blog' being Joe Saward a respected F1 journalist of 30 years experience. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 11:38, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I nominated this for WP:PROD so there is no discussion; if left uncontested for seven days it gets deleted. If you disagreed with the PROD, you could remove the PROD tag to contest it and take it to WP:AFD, where Users would be able to !vote for it to be deleted or kept based on policy. Also, Wordpress is never a Reliable Source because it's user generated content.. see WP:BLOGS. I hope this helps. JMHamo (talk) 09:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I don't really feel inclined to start a discussion about it. I just feel that perhaps an article should not be deleted without one. Just my opinion. As for WordPress as I said I would have deleted it myself were it not for the fact that it was Joe's page. WP:42 only says 'most' blogs are not reliable. There has to be an exception somewhere. Regards. Eagleash (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

how do you find out so much transfer and football news so quickly?
how do you find out so much transfer and football news so quickly?Thursby16 (talk) 20:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have loads of news feeds created JMHamo (talk) 20:29, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

on wikipedia? or other websites / apps?Thursby16 (talk) 20:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Various sources, mainly Twitter using different tools and RSS feeds from other sites. JMHamo (talk) 20:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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Persondata
Hello. Read Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 95. What I'm doing for the (far too many) articles on my watchlist is making sure the info has been correctly transferred to wikidata and then removing the persondata. There's no need to remove persondata at all. Its presence does no harm to an article, and a bot will be going round removing it as soon as it gets approval, but I take the point made in the WT:FOOTY thread: that leaving it in when the data has been correctly transferred might waste someone else's time. I'm happy enough wasting my own...

But I can understand people not wanting to mess about with wikidata. So long as the persondata content appears elsewhere in the article, like in the infobox, which it ought to, nothing is lost if it's removed. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Teams
Re. I think we ought to AfD all of the teams in the league. --Dweller (talk) 12:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's cool, in one bundle JMHamo (talk) 13:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Definitely. --Dweller (talk) 13:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The Cleveland Internationals Women PROD was contested anyway. JMHamo (talk) 06:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * AfD was always the preferred option, I think, for something close to notability as this undoubtedly is. It's a question of which side of the line it falls. --Dweller (talk) 07:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Matěj Vydra
If there's one disruptive user then it's better to block them. I've reverted and issued them a final warning. GiantSnowman 17:55, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Ebby Nelson-Addy
Hi there, I'm sure your edits to this page were in good faith, you tagged with 'expanding...' but the only major change you made was to remove his Aston Villa youth honours and include a Hartlepool squad list. Please clarify why you did that? 09:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought it was obvious what I did from this diff. In summary - I removed being a runner-up in a Youth competition because it's non-notable; I added the Hartlepool squad template and missing categories and did some MoS editing. I hope this answers your question. JMHamo (talk) 12:20, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Kadima Conservatory article
Dear JMH,

Thank you for your reminder. For months I haven't been able to access our draft article: at various times either my login or the article itself was disqualified. (Your various editors didn't coordinate their responses, which essentially locked me out. I know you are all overloaded, so this is understandable.)

In the meantime our program has received additional funding from the city of Los Angeles, county of Los Angeles, and state of California, and we are scrambling to expand our services to meet the demand. As a result no one has time to continue working on our Wikipedia entry now. I guess you might as well delete it.

Barbara Blankenship, Kadima Conservatory

Morgan Schneiderlin
Thanks for your arbitrage in the above article. The edit war started from User:PeeJay2K3 and not from me. Cruks (talk) 19:02, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter who started it. The most important thing is you stop reverting and discuss the issue on the article Talk page or at WT:FOOTY JMHamo (talk) 19:05, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, if the article stays like now, its ok. Otherwise I would suggest to talk to the other user again. I am tired. Cruks (talk) 19:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Feedback
Hey. I just wanted to know how well you think i've done with this Jefferson Mena page? Thank you.Thursby16 (talk) 21:26, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a good start. It needs more prose and references and some tidying, but overall it's acceptable. JMHamo (talk) 21:30, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * For the career statistics, is there any template i could use since i just re-wrote another players to fit his?Thursby16 (talk) 21:32, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You could copy Reece Brown (footballer, born 1996) and edit it. A good example of how career stats should look. JMHamo (talk)

Undeleting UrbanToronto.ca
Hi JMHamo,

I wrote a note here on June 24 asking if you can advise on my request to undelete UrbanToronto.ca and still have not heard back. If you could advise that would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks, Bec — Preceding unsigned comment added by Be McD87 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I replied to your original message on June 24. Here is a link... Also, on Wikipedia you should only use one account. I note that your original message was sent by . I will get that one blocked to allow you to continue editing using Be McD87., could you please block please. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 20:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks JMHamo! Didn't even realize it was showing up under two accounts, sorry about that!! Be McD87 (talk) 20:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ - I have blocked the 1st account. GiantSnowman 11:41, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Fraser Franks
Hi, just a note re your reversion of Fraser Franks' infobox stats. Franks made a number of appearances in the 2012-13 season for Welling as they won the Conference South. A fully referenced selection of these stats are available in the 'Career statistics' section. Soccerbase does not record Conference South statistics so please be wary about replicating Soccerbase stats verbatim in a player's infobox, especially if they have played non-League football. Thanks Haruman215 (talk) 07:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Kelechi Iheanacho
✅ GiantSnowman 12:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Jason Koumas
I'm not sure what your problem is. "Creative midfielder" (or similar) is a well-known and neutral term used to describe a certain type of player. And of course the statement is unreferenced - it's in the WP:LEDE where references are not normally included - but it's supported by statements in the main text. It's certainly not "unreferenced POV", as you claimed. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * See WP:LEADCITE - "Any statements about living persons that are challenged or likely to be challenged must have an inline citation every time they are mentioned, including within the lead." JMHamo (talk) 18:17, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Umm... yes, but you didn't challenge it, you deleted it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind, I will seek the opinion of two experienced editors can I have your opinion on this diff. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:50, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with finding more or better references. What I'm unclear about is what parts of the sentence you believe are unreferenced, POV, or both.  And, I'm surprised that you simply deleted the sentence rather than tagging it or raising the issue on the talk page.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:53, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There is no harm in being WP:BOLD... JMHamo (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ....so long as you then discuss it, rather than simply reverting, yes. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:57, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess my "problem" is who says that he played as a creative midfielder, isn't that just an opinion? Seems to be written by a fan. JMHamo (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a generally used term. And.....   Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:28, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

http://aliveforfootball.com/blog is not a reliable source per WP:BLOGS JMHamo (talk) 18:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't suggest it was a reliable site. I was pointing out that the term is widely and neutrally used, with a meaning close to "playmaker".  Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Here in response to JMHamo's request: Probably would have been better dealt with at the article talk page, but whatever. I have no problem with the statement being unreferenced in the lead section, as long as it is supported by reliably-sourced and explicit statements in the body of the prose, either integrated into the main narrative or in a separate style-of-play section. At the moment, it isn't. Neither the playing as a creative midfielder bit, nor the playing as a winger early in his career bit, nor the creating goals for others bit. I know Mr Koumas did play both as a winger and as a creative midfielder, so it shouldn't be difficult to sort out some independent sourcing. Might be an idea if some of the stuff in the Cardiff sections was toned down, as well: "incredible super sub cameo" isn't entirely encyclopedic... hope this helps, Struway2 (talk) 18:19, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your considered response. I'll try and get back to the article to improve it - as you say, most if not all of the "contentious" statements can be easily referenced.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've removed the peacock terms from Jason Koumas too. Thank you. JMHamo (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Cambridge United squad numbers
Watching Cambridge VS Norwich Friendly — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewHagueLang (talk • contribs) 01:14, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Pre-season friendlies are not reliable. Please wait until the club make an announcement on their site. JMHamo (talk) 09:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Patrick Roberts wiki page
Why was my editing reverted? He did sign for city and what I put was true Brown Nerd (talk) 09:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Patrick Roberts
beat me to it... GiantSnowman 10:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Table headers
Would you care to tell me where it is mandated that a table has a header? It's clear that the table refers to club statistics by the fact that it's in a section called "Statistics" under a sub-section called "Club", so why do we need to say "Club statistics" at the top of the table? – PeeJay 10:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I got this information from you some time ago, can you please remind me. JMHamo (talk) 10:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * MOS:DTT. Really, it ought to be something helpful and explicit, like "Appearances and goals by club, season and competition". The MoS used to say (somewhere else, can't find it now) that we didn't need a caption if the table followed on immediately from a section header that said the same thing, but a) I can't find that now, and b) the Kuszczak one doesn't, there's an intervening image and date of update line. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Taking this to Talk:Tomasz Kuszczak. Could you please add what you've said here to there :) Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 10:50, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Adi iyer92
An old account they can't remember the name or password to? No issues, just leave it. GiantSnowman 17:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That is what I thought, thanks for confirming. JMHamo (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

User:GiantSnowman/Jack Harper
Yeah you can WP:NOINDEX but I'm not really bothered to be honest. GiantSnowman 11:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough.. JMHamo (talk) 12:26, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft: H. Paul Prigg
i submitted a request for reinstatement of my unfinished draft of "H.Paul Prigg" which was deleted due to inactivity. I had been ill and unable to finish timely. Can you tell me how long it will be before I can work on it again? Thank you. Nancyprancy12 Nancyprancy12@gmail.com Nancyprancy12 (talk) 12:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I will ask the Admin who deleted Draft:H. Paul Prigg to restore it for you. could you please restore this draft? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 12:36, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Restored. Note that it stands zero chance of acceptance until it contains decent references. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:53, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

re: Edit summary
In my opinion, yes. The editor clearly has no intention of making constructive edits, and they operate on what appears to be a rolling IP address, so disciplinary action would have no effect. My comment was simply a way of letting off steam at people abusing the "anyone can edit" policy. – PeeJay 21:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Many would disagree... JMHamo (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Freddie Woodman
He plays for the England U-19 national team, he was #2 Goalkeeper at Newcastle for the 2014/15 season. If I'll be honest I'm surprised he hasn't got an article on Wikipedia yet. He has appeared in articles written by BBC, The Daily Mail, and The Journal. If you want me to put in those articles to reinforce notability, I understand, cause I didn't put in a few of them for repetitive reasons, but I guess it's always good to have more reliable sources than not. --Bobtinin (talk) 20:51, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * When Mr. Woodman makes his league debut it will mean that he's notable and should have an article, but not until then. If he plays this weekend, feel free to remove my deletion notice. Thanks JMHamo (talk) 20:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * He meets the WP:GNG all I would need to do is add more sources to his article with websites which show notability and are reliable. --Bobtinin (talk) 21:04, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You know what scratch what I said, he's gonna debut on the 8th in a League Two match which meets the criteria, so I will get rid of your deletion tag on the 8th of August. --Bobtinin (talk) 19:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Victorien Angban
✅ GiantSnowman 13:40, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Adminship
I would like to recommend you to be an admin, but I need your permission. Is that okay? It's fine if not just asking. TeaLover1996 (talk)  12:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No thank you, but thank you for considering me. JMHamo (talk) 14:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Put a sock in it
Why have you suspected me of sock puppetry.
 * It's all explained here. JMHamo (talk) 11:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Sam Patterson
Thanks for the notification on the PROD for Sam Patterson as an "Unsourced BLP" -- however, the article was sourced so I removed the PROD. I don't argue that it could use some beefing up but normally college football head coaches are kept in AFD discussions per essay WP:CFBCOACH. If you want to pursue deletion further, you're free to do so of course.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the citation. The previous one was dead, and I don't know much about college football. Thanks! JMHamo (talk) 12:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:CodeChef
Thanks for writing to me. I shall work on it and try to re-write the content so that it will adhere to the guidelines of Wikipedia. It would be kind of you, if you could provide me some more time.

Many thanks, Chanukya

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I hope you don't mind
I hope you are not annoyed at me reversing your closure at ANI. I agree with your position that the block was good, I do think we owe it to the community though to allow an uninvolved individual to decide if enough time has passed to review the block and declare an outcome. Not trying to step on your toes. Chillum 23:50, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Not at all, I completely understand your reasoning. I was in the wrong there. Thanks for correcting me and leaving me a message. JMHamo (talk) 23:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

DID YOU READ THE BIBLIBOGRAPHY ABOUT JUDO-DO ???
or search in online  despite extensive media coverage in the early yearexample???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aikikai45 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Despite his somewhat angry demeanor, has a point: Judo do is not a hoax; it's an actual variation on judo that was invented in Australia and has practitioners in Europe. I do not believe it to be a notable variation, but I do not either believe it to be a hoax.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:53, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Would it survive an AfD nomination? JMHamo (talk) 17:55, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably not. My own !vote would be to merge and redirect to Judo. But calling it a hoax shows a lack of WP:AGF and is somewhat bitey to the new user who created the page. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The "hoax" business arose because an earlier version claimed it was an Olympic sport, based on a confusion with Judo. However, the thing itself is not a hoax: it seems from this that there is such a variant of Judo, though whether it is notable or deserves more than a mention under Judo is not clear. JohnCD (talk) 18:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Let opportunity to the Wikipedia community (to discover an art geek don't find on google only newspaper before 1970's or real books with paper...) to work with it!--Aikikai45 (talk) 18:13, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * From the peanut gallery. I originally tagged it as a hoax for some blatantly self-serving untruths including a claim that it was made a co-olympic sport with judo and the implication that it was the European version of Judo (Europeans do Judo not a variation).  There was also attempts to associate it with styles of martial arts that have absolutely no connection to it.  The olympic claim was dropped but not the association claims.  That said the references (primary though they be) indicate that it exists and considers itself distinct.  It would fail an AfD I am sure and I was considering that with the last creation.Peter Rehse (talk) 18:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Peter Rehse, I haven't the same Crystal ball! BTW are you in the category of Wikipedians that edit Wikipedia?--Aikikai45 (talk) 18:33, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * @User:Aikikai45... are you in the category that do not...? Fortuna  Imperatrix Mundi  18:47, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * @User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi I just hope he don't consider using instead the Category:Wikipedians who are not a Wikipedian on his User Page and so WILL edit on Judo do all he translate from here. Then I will congrulated him!--Aikikai45 (talk) 18:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have salted Judo do, but it can be unprotected any time an improved version of Draft:Judo do is accepted at review. JohnCD (talk) 19:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have work on Judo do and wil not add again what I do! Take pleasure to delete Draft:Judo do for G2. Test pages is CORRECT but deleting Judo do for G3: Blatant hoax is INCREDIBLE!!! Restore it so. --Aikikai45 (talk) 19:07, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Re this reversion: has clearly indicated his intention to abandon this effort. In placing a db-g2 on his draft article, he made a mistake: what he really wanted to do was place a db-g7 (author-requested deletion). Rather than revert this change, I think it would have been more helpful for you to have corrected the change and allow the draft to be deleted. As it stands now, the draft will likely hang around for six or 12 months until it is eligible for a WP:CSD deletion. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:21, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Peanut Gallery: CSD:G13 can be used when the page goes 6 months without a (substantial) edit. Substantial in this case has come to mean a non-bot/maintenance edit. Hasteur (talk) 14:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

The article Judo do and his sub-pages list of Judo-do techniques will reach the Category:Wikipedia articles with sourcing issues|Hoax articles, suspected BUT ARE NOT A HOAX so deleting Judo do for G3: Blatant hoax and buried the text of list of Judo-do techniques in the edit history of draft:Judo do is ridiculous ( As it stands now, YOU refused to DELETE the page that must be deleted = draft:Judo do and YOU STILL WAITING RESTORING Judo do & list of Judo-do techniques...(G3 does not apply, as it's not a HOAX. (TW))!!! I requests to removes the sysop right from your account. If it can make your pleasure Articles that are not hoaxes but have content or sections of disputed accuracy can have the or  tag added in appropriate places in the article, which will to draw attention to the disputed content without tagging the entire article as a hoax. Remember <> Wikipedia is written collaboratively so STOP deleting entire article and let anonymous volunteers work on it without pay.--Aikikai45 (talk) 14:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
Could you please do something about the vandalism on Michael Hector  Thursby16 (talk) 12:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you please review and protect. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 12:26, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Virgil van Dijk
I made a mistake and before I could correct it, you reverted me. That's fine. But to accuse me of vandalism is nonsense. Please check my edit history and then withdraw your "report" to WP:RVAN. Thankyou 77.130.197.6 (talk) 14:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I've removed it. JMHamo (talk) 14:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Yes I will now. Some of them, however, had spells at non-league teams which don't show up on soccerbase, so I will fill in as much as I know &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 18:53, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool, you can add the club but leave caps1= and goals1= blank in that case.. JMHamo (talk) 18:57, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Man u
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2016/clubs/club=52682/squad/index.html there's your source

Ed Gaston
Hello JMHamo,

Unfortunately I am not able to find any more references for the draft article about Ed Gaston. A pity, because he was a notable musician, played with many other famous musicians and other Wikipedia pages link to his (including Don Burrows and Emily Remler) but I do understand the reasons for your wanting to delete my draft. Hopefully, something will turn up.

Cheers!

Gderrin (talk) 04:38, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Sethawadiya, Sri Lanka not really a village
Hi, JMHamo. I checked with WikiProject Sri Lanka, and it turns out that this is not a village after all, but a non-notable tourist resort. If you will revert your postponement, I will delete it under G13. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 00:13, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Anne! JMHamo (talk) 00:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

15:26:24, 14 September 2015 review of submission by Supe.jim
Re-edition of a draft so as to improve it. References, notability. Hi ! I re-edited the draft of The Price We Pay. I hope it's good, It's a big documentary broadcasted in France, in Canada and in USA (in theaters and on Tv). Last week it was broadcasted on ICI Radio Canada TV and the Hashtag #thepricewepay was the second Hashtag in the whole Canada and the 3rd in Québec during the evening. I put very different references and also chose to put french and francophone references so as to show the international impact of the movie. We can consider these references (press, journalist articles including La Presse, Radio-Canada, Imdb and international festival websites including TIFF and Vancouver Film Critics Circle...) as "reliable and independent references" concerning the movie, can't we ? It was selected in Canada Top Ten's in one of the biggest festival in the World in 2014 (TIFF), but also broadcasted in 2015 in the same TIFF, plus it won the Best Canadian Documentary in 2015 in the VFCC and went to several big festivals all around the world.

Please feel free to tell me what to do :) Thanks a lot !

Here is the draft : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Price_We_Pay_(2014_Film)

Supe.jim (talk) 15:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Statto.com
Hello. Yes, it's been back for a couple of weeks now. Hopefully it intends to stay up this time... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Todd Hobin entry deletion
Hi JM. I edited the Todd Hobin entry, adding four independent source links for reference. They are in the body copy. This is my first article for Wikipedia, obiously. Thank you for your editing help. -- Mark Markbialczak (talk) 13:11, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Please reinstate entry Todd Hobin
Hi JM. Per your suggestions, I've added four independent source link references. I'd like you to revisit the Todd Hobin entry and reinstate it. Thank you. Mark Bialczak. Markbialczak (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Tom Kennedy
You've deleted facts about that Rochdale game that explain what REALLY happened. So I've now deleted any reference to it all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popbrit (talk • contribs) 12:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Qed237
Are you willing to back me up with regard to asking this guy to change his editing methods? I have tried reaching out to the administrators but that's going nowhere. Is there any way this issue can be raised in WikiProject Football, perhaps by establishing a project-specific policy? Eightball (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Eightball, project-specific policies cannot override project policies such as WP:V and WP:BURDEN. --Neil N  talk to me 14:11, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * NeilN, I'm not suggesting that it should. I'm saying that best practice, when faced with an unreferenced addition or an incorrect timestamp, should be to provide a reference or correct the timestamp. Immediately reverting the edit is an assumption of bad faith, in my opinion. My first assumption would be that the edit is correct, in which case I would attempt to verify the information, add/update the reference, then correct the timestamp. Only if I find that to be impossible would I revert the edit. Blanket reverting these edits without a second thought is not productive in any way. Eightball (talk) 14:15, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Eightball, this is a bad idea, forcing recent change patrollers to look for references for any kind of stat changes. We do not add policies to address the behavior of one editor. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 14:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * NeilN, just because he is the only editor currently utilizing this negative, unproductive style of editing doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed. I have tried to address it on a personal level and that has seemingly failed. I'm not going to stop and I'm not going to give up. What he's doing is wrong and objectively makes this a worse encyclopedia. It needs to end. Eightball (talk) 14:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounding rather like fighting talk, Eightball...? <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  14:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, Is it possible to express yourself and your opinions without acting like linking to wiki pages makes you automatically right? If you have something to say to me, just say it. Eightball (talk) 14:29, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Eightball Is it possible for you to discuss without personal attack? <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 14:46, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * No. <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  14:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * In no way was that a personal attack. I'm simply trying to ask you to explain yourself instead of just linking to wikipolicy. The latter is incredibly unproductive. Eightball (talk) 15:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thats your opinion, the fact is that many users has now complained about your behaviour. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">Qed</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 15:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

23:03:06, 22 September 2015 review of submission by 67.79.8.126
Hi, I want you to re-review what I have edited from the draft page. I took our two references which were either irrelevant or repetitive. I have also added sentences, which are supported by the sources. One source is a news outlet while another is a highly credible tech news site. Please assist me in correcting whatever is wrong. Let me know what I need toa dd.

Thanks!
 * Take a look at WP:WEB, which should help you. JMHamo (talk) 23:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Request on 09:00:10, 24 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Tracy Leddy
Tracy Leddy (talk) 09:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Keshi Anderson
Thanks for the heads up! Feel free to do it yourself if he makes his debut and I'm not around. GiantSnowman 21:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

AFD
Hi JMHamo, You nominated Sadiq El Fitouri for deletion but you've then closed the AFD as "Speedy Delete" despite not actually deleting it ?, I'm assuming you closed the wrong AFD, Anyway just thought I should make you aware, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 00:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Check out the deletion log. It was G7 deleted but later it was requested that it be restored, so it was listed at AfD again. JMHamo (talk) 00:09, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ahhh I somehow didn't spot the 2nd one in the AFD log my bad, Think I best go back to bed . – Davey 2010 Talk 00:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Appeal
Hi JMHamo, you nominated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossett_Town_Ladies_FC for Speedy Deletion in the very limited time I had to finish writing it! The article is now fully complete so I would be grateful if you could please undo this. I do also have a couple of media references to add in order to fully comply with notability guidelines. Many thanks, Minnowfire (talk) 14:53, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You can recreate the article if you feel it now passes WP:NFOOTBALL, if it does not pass it will be most probably deleted again. JMHamo (talk) 15:08, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi JMHamo, thanks for your help with this. I have now recreated the article. :) --Minnowfire (talk) 14:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

James Husband
You were correct, as it turns out, but remember that we cannot assume (WP:CRYSTALBALL), and, as such, non-confirmation would usually mean no change to the plan. Spa-Franks (talk) 17:56, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * A quick Google search before your edits would have shown this, I did not assume... JMHamo (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing was confirmed. It is therefore an assumption. And the loan end date really should have been changed in that case. Spa-Franks (talk) 18:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * My revert was based on Reliable Sources found when I did a search... The club usually do not confirm loan extensions. JMHamo (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Blacklistedakshay786/sandbox
Hello JMHamo. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Blacklistedakshay786/sandbox, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G2 does not apply to pages in the user namespace.  Thank you. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:44, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Yoshiko Iwamoto Wada - 6 months not edited
Dear JMHamo Thanks for your human alert. The long wait comes from Yoshiko's side, as she has not provided further feedback, but we were not aware of the 6 months limit and I shall try to get her moving :) Thanks for your engagement with WP. Bonu (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

October 2015
Hello. I have a source. Will this do? :): http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/468312/Brendan-Rodgers-sacked-Liverpool

--MKY661 (talk) 19:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The Daily Star is a tabloid rag, so no it won't do... JMHamo (talk) 19:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * OK. I know there should be more around as that has now been mentioned a lot more :) --MKY661 (talk) 08:25, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

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RS bullshit for episode guide
wikipedia rules state that for episode list of works of fiction, RS is the work itself. now where is the lack of RS that you so claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahfuzur rahman shourov (talk • contribs) 04:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Mesfr Al Kahtani
Saw that you moved Mesfr Al Kahtani back to the other name. Not sure if same player? How many people with that name could have been playing for Ittihad FC in 2005! Nfitz (talk) 22:56, 24 October 2015 (UTC)


 * + 1... JMHamo (talk) 23:55, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * + 1 for rudeness and a WP:AGF violation?!? Despite evidence this is the same player? Nfitz (talk) 23:57, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You have form (backed up by your AfD stats), let's leave it there... JMHamo (talk) 23:59, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Some AFD discussion disagreements in previous years allows a user to consistently violate one of the five pillars of Wikipedia? Civility is a central core of this project, and trumps any historic editing disputes. Besides, I think I've seen the user in question on the wrong side of more AFD discussions this year than I have - though I haven't run the stats. Either way ... agreeing with rudeness and a WP:AGF violation.  That's a -10!  In all seriousness though, can you review Mesfer Al-Qahtani and Articles for deletion/Mesfer Al-Qahtani again now I have added references that show that he's the same person who played for both Al-Ittihad and Al-Hilal. Nfitz (talk) 01:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't review as I can't read Arabic, as simple as that. JMHamo (talk) 01:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Put the article in Google Translate. You'll see references to both teams. Al-Hilal FC is نادي الهلال‎ (The Crescent).  Ittihad FC is  نادي الاتحاد‎, literally meaning Union (or United).


 * The one article is on Al-Hilal's website and on the web - http://www.alhilalclub.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-146841.html and http://www.alqanas.com.sa/vb/t73240/ - it's the same text, but the translate is easier to read on the latter. There are numerous mentions of Al-Hilal FC (نادي الهلال‎ )(Crescent) and Ittihad FC(نادي ) (Union) in it. Also in http://www.alrage.net/vb/t97547.html is the interviewers question:
 * ـ أنت لاعب محترف في الاتحاد كيف انتقلت للهلال دون أن يحصل الاتحاد على أي مبالغ؟
 * which translates as "How did you move as a professional player from Ittihad to Al-Hilal to without Ittihad getting any transfer fee". The response is
 * بعد مفاوضات الهلال عرفت أن الاتحاد لن يستغني عني مهما حصل فتوجهت للاتحاد السعودي لأبحث معهم كيف انتقل للهلال دون أن يكون للاتحاد أي تدخل فيني فأبلغني أنني أستطيع أن ألعب مع الهلال هاوياً بالفعل وقعت للهلال كلاعب
 * which translates as "After negotiaions Al-Hilal knew that Ittihad would not do without me, so I went to the Saudi Federation ...". Nfitz (talk) 01:26, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

This is hardly significant coverage, so GNG is not meet in my opinion. JMHamo (talk) 01:35, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing WP:GNG (though it's a wide-reaching interview - that's about 2 sentences from the end). I'm simply using that to confirm that this IS the same player who played for both Al-Hilal FC and Ittihad FC; the article dates from February 2008 less than 26 monmths after Ittihad's December 2005 2005 FIFA Club World Championship appearance. I suspect the sum total of those 3-4 articles (though certainly not the one about him retiring) do meet WP:GNG though my familiarity with the Saudi medi isn't strong enough to make that assertion without further research. I'm asserting that WP:NFOOTBALL is met. Nfitz (talk) 02:11, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * BTW, I haven't confirmed his league appearances, though does confirm that he did score a goal during one league playoff match. Nfitz (talk) 03:15, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Tim Sherwood
I bow to your judgment on the lead content for this article. I wanted to note that the reason I made the edit was because it seemed very unclear for a neutral that he was no longer manager of Aston Villa. The only clue was the omission from the opening sentence. Surely saying that he was appointed and rescued them from relegation as the final piece of information in the lead is misleading and misses out a key recent development? Mountain cirque 11:15, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Toledo United FC
I don't quite understand why it's not considered significant, it's in the Great Lakes Premier League and most other teams in that league have a Wikipedia page. It says it doesn't "credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject", I linked to the official website. If you could send me the content of the deleted page and also let me know what additional info would make it more "significant" I would appreciate it. Thanks! Cjrobe (talk) 15:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * See WP:FOOTYN for the relevant club notability guideline. JMHamo (talk) 14:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)