User talk:JMHamo/Archive 9

Please Explain.
I don't see the reason why you are nominating pages like Football Today and Liverpool F.C. Player of the Season without any specific reasons. I know you are an editor but don't do anything you like.Sammanhumagain (talk) 15:46, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I recommend you learn the basics of Wikipedia before creating anymore articles. WP:Notability is a good starting point... JMHamo (talk) 15:50, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on WP:AN
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Sorry, glad it worked out
I'm only really on Wikipedia in fits and starts. Sorry I missed your request, glad you got it protected by someone else, and in the future, if you have something time-sensitive, you should probably ask someone else because I'm pretty unreliable. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:07, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries, thanks for your note... JMHamo (talk) 23:10, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Emmanuel Sonupe
Hi. I believe that I do know Sonupe's England stats, but I'm afraid I can't provide a good citation for his under-16 cap because the FA has deleted the match reports and his personal profile on their site. I'll leave it to you to decide whether or not you want to include the numbers in his profile.

England under-16s: 1 cap, 0 goals.


 * Capped v Northern Ireland on 12 October 2011 - see http://www.englandfootballblog.com/2011/10/13/england-u16s-beat-northern-ireland-3-1/ for a probably inadmissible source.

England under-18s: 2 caps, 1 goal.


 * Capped v Croatia on 3 March 2013 - see http://www.thefa.com/news/england/development/2014/mar/england-under-18-2-1-croatia


 * Capped and scored v Croatia on 5 March 2013 - see http://www.thefa.com/news/england/development/2014/mar/england-u18s-1-2-croatia-match-report

Those are the only games that he's played for England at any level.

Do what you will! All the best. Clicriffhard (talk) 22:12, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion criteria G2
I had to decline a number of G2 requests you made for (short) draft articles. A short article attempt is not a test page. A test page is random characters or content that makes it clear it is a test of the system (for example, text that says "testing the save button"). These short draft articles generally can't be deleted under any speedy deletion criteria and must go through the normal channels - either waiting 6 months without an edit for G13 deletion or being sent to MfD. --ThaddeusB (talk) 06:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Johnstone
Hello. I agree it's odd. He was on the bench for them on Tuesday, and there's nothing on either club's website or twitter feed. BCFC have instant recall on him, so I assume they must have used it, whether unilaterally or by mutual agreement, but why it hasn't been mentioned I've no idea. Until it is mentioned, though, it's probably best to leave him where he is. However bleedinobvious it may be to conclude that if someone else is wearing his number, he can't be at CTFC, it's still pure original research. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:57, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * He could have picked up an injury in training that has not been reported yet. We'll see :) Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 18:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing it's more likely that the new manager doesn't fancy him so BCFC have recalled him by mutual consent with a view to loaning him somewhere he might get a game (the loan window is still open, isn't it?) CTFC website haven't caught up with the change in personnel yet...
 * I feel a bit sorry for the lad, tbh. He was scoring for fun for Celtic youth, could have stayed there but wanted first-team football, could hvae moved to a decent Scottish club but Celtic played hardball over the fee, came to us largely because he'd worked with Alan Thompson at Celtic, then Thompson left, wasn't ready for the English 2nd division, was doing all right at Macclesfield but was recalled and sent to Cheltenham, was doing all right there till they got a new manager who wanted his own choice of players... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:15, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I was just reading the CTFC message boards, and it seems like you're right. He didn't impress :(. The loan transfer window closes on 26 March, so plenty of time for him to find a new club :).. JMHamo (talk) 18:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * A cynic might think the wording "back at Blues following the end of his loan spell" on the BCFC site a little disingenuous :-) Definite implication of loan having expired, which it hadn't. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:57, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Junazaj
Why in the world did you remove relevant sourced content from Junazaj's page and then accuse me of vandalism? --Bigjohndordoba (talk) 23:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You can't make a claim about a living person without citing a reliable source to back up your edit. JMHamo (talk) 23:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

David Silva
I know that you've something against me, and WP:FOOTY states that assists shouldn't be included but what I'm saying is that remove the assists columns manually, as Every time you revert my edit, you outdate his statistics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sybest 7 7 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Please Explain.
Hi there, why are you not allowing page "South Africa's Top Backstrokers" to be redirected to "South Africa's Top Rated/Ranked Backstrokers" considering that all your requirements have already been complied with?
 * "South Africa's Top Backstrokers" is at WP:AfD, so until there has been a decision made about it, it shouldn't be redirected to any other article. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 15:54, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Adnan Januzaj
I've left him a note. GiantSnowman 18:54, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * QED has left an edit warring warning, if they violate again then I will indef. GiantSnowman 17:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Broken redirects
I don't think you need to tag normal broken redirects with db-g8 - AnomieBOT III will delete them automatically after a few days. JohnCD (talk) 22:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi! Yes, the broken redirects I nominate are exceptions that AnomieBOT III reports as not being able to delete automatically. I don't tag anything that will be deleted in a few days. I hope this is all OK :) JMHamo (talk) 22:39, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I hadn't noticed the "User or User talk namespaces" restriction on the bot. Sorry about that: carry on! JohnCD (talk) 23:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #2—2015
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Luca Gasparotto
✅. GiantSnowman 17:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

look again
Before sending me a message about ME being in an edit war and WARNING me to use the talk page would you like to check your facts.

I amended a grammatically incorrect and very subjective paragraph. I explained why in talk. The author reverted it without any comments. I put it back and again in talk asked for input and not just a reversion. He again just reverted it. Fine. Leave the article looking like it was written by a 2yo monkey. I won't be correcting any more. Lemlinspire (talk) 17:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I see you could not be bothered to respond. Justifying not something you do I guess. Just incorrectly threaten. Lemlinspire (talk) 16:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Admin?
Are you not an administrator? I assumed you were? Tea Lover 1996  (talk)  04:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not an Admin.. JMHamo (talk) 09:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Víctor Valdés
Got it thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 17:53, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

AFC speedy deletion noms
How do you find articles to nominate for deletion? I might be interested in going through articles just shy of the threshold to see if there is anything worth adopting. Thanks, Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions contains the eligible G13 submissions, but it's currently empty. JMHamo (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion
My thanks for your recent communication. I kept the article because I thought it was well-written and to remind myself that I chose the Sandbox method because I thought that was the Community-minded route. The other article was not present or else I would not not have put the effort in. However, the retained article did no longer serve any practical purpose, so no real objections to the deletion.Protozoon (talk) 22:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

RE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jamck#Your_draft_article.2C_Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation.2FBobby_McKeown

I am very frustrated with this experience of trying to publish a page in Wikipedia. After having the article initially declined, I was very shortly contacted by someone who "worked" for Wikipedia, offering to guarantee approval of the article if I paid $120 (which I did not). After making some changes it was declined again. Certainly not the most ethical situation.

Jamck (talk) 12:35, 28 May 2015 (UTC)jamck
 * That somebody involved in the Article for Creation process offered to "publish" your article for cash is very concerning.. do you know the User name of this individual and I will get it investigated for you? Also, you can get your article text Userfied if you would like that? JMHamo (talk) 12:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

This happened awhile back. I will see if I can find any of the information. I should have reported it at the time, but my father passed away near the time it happened and it got pushed to the background priority-wise. I would be interested in have it userfied. Jamck (talk) 13:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)Jamck

Hmm..
I think I've deleted more of your edits than anybody else around here. I'm contemplating recharging you for a new mouse button.

Congratulations on reaching ten years! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 17:42, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Ziggy
Hello, and thanks. I'll probably nominate it for GA once I've got the international section to the same standard as the rest, both tone and sourcing leave a bit to be desired and the content's a bit variable. Though nobody'll review it because of the length and the foreign-language sourcing... Think the nitpicky requirements at FA is beyond my tolerance level :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

List
I'm thinking of putting a list of users who I trust on Wikipedia, I'd like to add your name to the list, but I'll need your personal permission first. Thanks TeaLover1996 (talk)  12:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Go for it, I've no objections. JMHamo (talk) 12:16, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Transfer Window
International Transfers cant happen until the window opens, I'm guessing thats why you reverted the edit. Tea<b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> (talk) </b> 07:30, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Based on this reliable source - BBC Sport JMHamo (talk) 07:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Tom Cleverley
Someone beat me to it... GiantSnowman 11:49, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #3—2015
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help please.
can you please protect Claudio Bravo (footballer) and Thomas Vermaelen pages ips keep change honors. thank you Adnan (talk) 07:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not an Admin... JMHamo (talk) 15:47, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * oh sorry i thought you are :) thank you anywayAdnan (talk) 18:12, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

About your message
I believe that the warning was okay as she had disruptively edited an article, so I left a level 1 warning, I don't see how it was bad, and one other editor has supported the message. I do not see how anything bad has occured here can you explain please. Regards. <b style="font-family:tahoma"><b style="color:green">Tea</b><b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> Talk to me ☏ </b> 15:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * , no other editor supported your message. <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  15:59, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you explain why you felt it was disruptive and have you removed the message from Tokyogirl's Talk page yet? I don't think you are listening. JMHamo (talk) 16:25, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw 3 or 1 edit had been reverted, I guess I should of specified in the message I left on her talk page it would have been easier to clarify then. <b style="font-family:tahoma"><b style="color:green">Tea</b><b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> Talk to me ☏ </b> 16:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You obviously don't know what you are doing and until you understand reverting/warning, I wouldn't do them. JMHamo (talk) 16:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If you look on the article Adam Bogdan, 1 or 3 edits were reverted, thats why I left a message on her talk page. <b style="font-family:tahoma"><b style="color:green">Tea</b><b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> Talk to me ☏ </b> 16:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

You are not making any sense. JMHamo (talk) 16:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * For us slowbies, could you provide diffs of the actual '1 or 3 edits' that you are talking about? <sub style="color:green;">Fortuna  <sup style="color:red;">Imperatrix Mundi  16:41, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It was you JMHamo who reverted several edits here which ended up also removing some constructive edits, I saw you had reverted some edits by her so I assumed the one or some of them were unconstructive. <b style="font-family:tahoma"><b style="color:green">Tea</b><b style="color:blue">Lover</b><b style="color:red">1996</b> Talk to me ☏ </b> 17:00, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Undeleting an article?
Hi JMHamo. I'm not sure how to comment in a User talk space...I got a message from you saying that my draft article submission "Terminology for Large Organizations (TerminOrgs)" was about to be deleted. By the time I clicked the link it was gone. I have put in a request to have it re-instated so that we can address the concerns and finish the submission. Will I be notified when the article is back up? Sukoch (talk) 13:59, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Draft:Terminology for Large Organization (TerminOrgs) was undeleted by earlier this morning. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 12:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawl request
Could you withdraw your deletion recommendation for this you tagged as AfD today. You tagged it immediately after it was re-instated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_M._Johnson It's been online since 2009 and has been cleaned up to align with Wikipedia standards 198.143.1.89 (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2015 (UTC)ogre added by 198.143.1.89 (talk) 23:45, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's going through the AfD process and a community based decision will be made shortly. JMHamo (talk) 23:48, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you mention why it was flagged for deletion. It's been up since 2009.198.143.1.89 (talk) 23:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)ogre

Bullying

 * JMHamo has just notified me that he has put my account up for investigation for questioning one of his AfDs. Considering I've been on Wikipedia for almost 10 years, and have been in good standing the entire time, this is a bit unusual. Also since I contested your AfD. Unfortunately this is a form of cyberbullying and Wikipedia or whomever else I report this to won't allow this. It is also the reason that less and less people have started contributing to Wikipedia.Simile (talk) 00:44, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Have a read of WP:SOCK... JMHamo (talk) 11:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Bullying. You seem to be following me around Wikpedia. Reverting edits, speedy deleting pages I've started of legitimate topics and noteworthy and notable people who already are already mentioned on multiple entries. This is quite curious. No wonder less and less people want to edit Wikipedia.Simile (talk) 16:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The bullying has been reported. Ambox notice.svg This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simile (talk • contribs) 17:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Please do not threaten me by posting a false AN template on my Talk page. Thank you... JMHamo (talk) 17:56, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Cédric Soares
Hi there JM, from Portugal,

I know that, given this player's impending transfer to Southampton, his article has been subjected to the habitual battery of idiocies. However, I'd like to know why I was also reverted, he PLAYED yesterday against Italy.

Attentively --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I didn't recognise your IP address; assumed you were one of the disruptive IPs. I see you've added back the International appearance, so all good now. JMHamo (talk) 11:37, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

No worries, we are both working for the best of the project! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 12:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Four day delay period for G13 deletions
It has been proposed that a dealy period of 4 days be introduced for G13 deletions. The discussion is taking place ar WT:CSD. Rankersbo (talk) 22:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Undeleting UrbanToronto.ca
Hi JMHamo,

You had send me a message saying the draft page of UrbanToronto.ca was being deleted because it hadn't been active. I've since tried to re-instate the draft so I can work on it some more but haven't seen any messages indicating if that will or won't be happening. Can you please advise?Be mcd (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It was restored on June 10 by : - Draft:UrbanToronto.ca. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Woh! Speeding Draft Deletions?
I understand the need to deleted drafts that go unedited. But deleting with less than one day of notice seems a unnecessarily fast. Draft:Maryann Krieglstein had already been approved as wp:notable by multiple reviewers but I had been asked to remove a few un-encyclopedic issues. I wanted to step away and let come back to it with a fresh opinion. Time got away from me and I forgot it was still sitting there. The deletion notice was a great remainder, but having it already deleted by the time I logged in today just creates unnecessary bureaucratic work for me and other editors. Why the need for such rapid deletion without letting the warning do its job? -- <font color="#153E7E"> D kriegls (<font color="#7d5515">talk to me! ) 20:40, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? I'm not an Admin, so I can't delete. You have sent this message to the wrong person. JMHamo (talk) 20:43, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, if you follow the instructions as WP:REFUND/G13 you can have it restored by an Admin. It's not gone for good. JMHamo (talk) 20:45, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I realize that, I'm curious as to why your warning on my talk about "The page will shortly be deleted" was made a day of the deletion and the first bot warning was made just several hours before the deletion? What's the point of those warnings if there is near little time to act on them? Looking at your take page I see this is not a problem unique to me. I understand you're not an adimn, but the problem I have is the with the warnings. The edit you are making. How can we get them on people's talk pages before the deletion happens...with plenty of time to act on them?-- <font color="#153E7E"> D kriegls (<font color="#7d5515">talk to me! ) 20:55, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair point, I apologise., could you please restore Draft:Maryann Krieglstein. Thank you. JMHamo (talk) 21:01, 25 June 2015 (UTC)