User talk:JMichael22/Archive 1

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Tyler Hansbrough
Not yet. It hasn't been announced on the Raptors website yet.— Chris! c / t 04:25, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Re: OVW Heavyweight Championship
According to your contributions, you've never edited OVW Heavyweight Championship. Do you also edit as an ip? If so, please be aware of wikipedia's policy on WP:SOCKPUPPET. Also when responding to messages left to the ip address, please tell people that you also edit as said ip. If you are (I'm assuming so, considering they are the only user I left a message regarding the OVW title for, and you responded to it), then you should be fully aware that there is no justification for this edit. If people are vandlising the article contrary to the source, warn them. There are templated warnings available at WP:WARN for such purposes. If they continue, escalate the warnings up through the levels and if required, report them to WP:AIV where they may be blocked by an administrator. If the vandalism persists over a long period of time, you may consider requesting WP:RFPP. Hopefully, this will help in future, so that you don't find it necessary to vandalise articles yourself. Thanks, Nici  Vampire  Heart  10:49, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Bellator season 9
Just wanted to drop you a line to commend you on the nice set up you did for the Bellator season 9 page. Looks great! Udar55 (talk) 18:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

WWE
Please, stop. Since April 2011, World Wrestling Entertainment change his name to WWE. Hennig won the titles under the WWE, not World Wrestling Entertainment. Here the sources WWE and LA Times --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I give you two sources about the name change. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring.
You should be aware of WP:3RR. "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. Violations of the rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as an edit-warring violation."

You've already made four, but I'm giving you another chance, because you at least made an effort to source it. However, CageMatch.net is not an official TNA source, so it doesn't address the WP:WAF issues about primary information. It is also not listed as reliable in the Wrestling Wikiproject's style guide and doesn't say they won the tournament, just the final match. Previous World Cups have used a total point system to decide the winner. This point system isn't mentioned and there is no claim that the team who won the last match won the Cup. So this is still contentious, poorly-sourced material about a living person and will be removed, per policy. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:23, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Impact
Hey I saw you added two new PPV specials for iMPACT. I was wondering where you saw these. If you have no source then they need to be removed. Black Dragon 22:59, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

??? If you dont get a source by later Im removing them. Black Dragon 16:17, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

FCW
Hi. I use Cagematch, even I have an account. But Cagematch is the only source. Other souurces, OWOW, SLAM, Solie, Wrestling Titles say that Hennig and Tuft never won the titles. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:00, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013
Hello, I'm STATicVerseatide. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Rob Van Dam, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  STATic  message me!  01:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did to Rob Van Dam, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.  STATic  message me!  01:28, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Kongo
Cheick Guillaume Ouedraogo is his real name, Kongo is a nickname, so there why it's in the alias. Please quit reverting my edits, they are correct and you could violate the rule about edit warring. 173.171.83.140 (talk) 20:45, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Removing edits by others
Please don't remove edits by other people as you did with Luchuslu's comment at Articles for deletion/Stephanie Eggink. That is considered a major violation of WP procedures. Papaursa (talk) 21:13, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

3 Revert Rule broken.
Your recent editing history at List of current WSOF fighters shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. 173.171.83.140 (talk) 08:48, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Page protected for 3 days to allow discussion. You are lucky I got that done, as I was tempted to drag you both in front of WP:AN3. Please discuss before you edit this page again. -- Mdann 52   talk to me!  08:56, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

WSOF fighters list discussion
The WSOF site made a typo, the actual fighters facebook pages, as well as very many MMA related sources, including Sherdog, tapology, UG, etc., All have the correct spelling, WSOF made a typo, plain and simple.

As far as the symbolism for the champions go, the (C), is always a clickable link to a page about the current champions of the organization, they can simply click the link to know what (C) and (IC) mean. The NC is necessary on the page because newer users will be confused, which is why it's on every other list like page. Let's go with the NC marker, it helps the new users out. 173.171.83.140 (talk) 09:26, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Looks like we reached a consensus.
Take a look at the talk page here, if you want to change anything please discuss on the talk page and come to a consensus before any ideas are made on the new consensus, this way we can avoid a lot of hassle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_current_WSOF_fighters#Looks_like_a_consensus_was_reached

Tell me what you think and give me your suggestions if you have any, or let me know if it looks good to you. 173.171.83.140 (talk) 10:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Kaz and Eric
Hi. I think that we should talk about it. I delete Kaz and Eric regin because... I think that they aren't recognized as champions. We have sources about they won a match and Cornette vacated the titles, but... http://web.archive.org/web/20100307061608/http://www.tnawrestling.com/roster/tna-world-title-histories official title history doesn't recognized Kaz and Young as champions. Here, you can see: Styles and Tomko were stripped of the titles. The only who can be stripped are the champions and I don't see Kaz & Eric. It's like RVD defeating the Undertaker or Hardcore Holly winning the IC Title. If you want, we can talk with the project so they help us, with we haven't sources (Kaz and Young profiles listed them as multi-time World Tag team champions, but TNA doesn't say the partners and usually, TNA merged the NWA Title reigns with the TNA title reigns) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:30, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I know that Kaz and Eric defeated Styles & Tomko, but TNA Webpage says that he wasn't champions. The difference between Bryan and Kaz and Young is that WWE recognized Bryan as champion before being stripped. For example, RVD defeated The Undertaker and won the WWE Championship, but the decision was reverted. Jericho defeated HHH for the WWE Title and the decision was reverted. RVD and Jericho reigns doesn't count because WWE doesn't recognized the changes. Looks similar to Kaz and Eric. I know that other sources says that Kaz and Eric was champions, but I think that TNA has the last word because it is TNA Story. If you want, I'm gonna start a discussion in the WP talk page, ok? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * .I just find this. Kaz profile says that he is Two times Tag Team champion. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:18, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I saw the video. But TNA is very clear. "High-flyer Kazarian is recognized as one of TNA’s most talented veterans. A true athlete at heart, he possesses a rare combination of speed and power that can’t be contained.  This TNA Superstar dominates the roster with numerous titles and accolades under his belt.  He’s a two-time TNA World Tag Team Champion and a five-time X Division Champion." So, Kaz/Eric reign isn't official. Also, the title don't appear in the title story. Two primary sources says that Kaz/Young weren't champions. TNA doesn't recognized the title change. We have to believe in the sources. TNA Tag Team titles are the titles of TNA, so TNA can say if a reign is official or unofficial and TNA says that Kaz and Eric weresn't champions.  --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:31, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Man, it's simple. TNA website said that Kaz and Eric never were champiosn (TNA said "Tomko and Styles were stripped", not me). Now, TNA says that Kaz is Two times champion, not three. TNA says that Eric is multi time because TNA also counts NWA titles (Storm is 12 times TNA tag Team champion). If TNA says that Kaz and Eric weren champions (I give you the title story and the Kaz profile as sources) they weren't champions. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 00:21, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * First, who are the others? Second, OWOW is a SECONDARY source. TNA Official Title story and TNA Profiles are PRIMARY SOURCE. Second, I explained to you one hundred millions. TNA DOESN'T RECOGNIZED KAZ AND ERIC AS CHAMPIONS. Yes, you have a video that the won a match, but TNA doesn't recognized the change. Do you understand it? If the website of the company doesn't show the title change, they weren't champions --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 00:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * But Bleacher report isn't TNA. If we are talking about a TNA title, we need that TNA recognized, and TNA says that the weren't champions. Also, Bleacher report is listed as a unreliable source --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 00:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

TNA isn't up to date it hasn't updated the profile of Kazarian JMichael22 (talk) 00:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

WSOF event articles
First off, thanks for your work on the WSOF event articles, they look great! I'm not sure you're aware of the mixed martial arts WikiProject, but please take a look at WP:MMA and if you're interested sign up and add the userbox to your UserPage. Now for the sad news, it looks like there has been some discussion to merge the WSOF event articles into omnibus articles. If done right none of the content will be lost, it will just all reside on 2012 in World Series of Fighting and 2013 in World Series of Fighting instead of individual articles for each event. Let me know if you have any questions about anything, glad to see that you've already done so much work on MMA pages! Kevlar (talk) 04:26, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Tag titles
Hmm. I'm not sure if the youtube clip would work and Bleacherreport is unreliable. However, solie.org and OWOW were already listed at WP:PW and HHH said you posted them originally. I think they should be reliable enough for this, considering they're just backing up what was already said on Kaz's impactwrestling.com profile anyway.LM2000 (talk) 01:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry I kind of goofed up, I explained myself on WP:PW. If you can prove that Kaz's profile hasn't been updated since his recent title reign, then that's proof that they kind of recognize it, making it somewhat official.  If not then maybe we can list it with an asterisk.LM2000 (talk) 01:20, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Please. We still discussing the matter. Don't change the article until we have a decission. We have only one opinion, wait until other, like Hulk, McPhill or STATIC give us their opinions. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll wait to see what others say, like HHH says, just to be on the safe side. Also, like Nici said, there's a big edit war going on, I don't want to just step in the middle of that.  Let this discussion go on for a little more, and if we get a strong consensus going then I'll go ahead and readd the reign.  I think the evidence you just provided should be good enough for most people.  Sound good?LM2000 (talk) 18:00, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: TNA Tag Titles
I do not have the time, energy, nor inclination to wade into this argument, especially when I don't watch TNA and couldn't tell you a thing about it. What I will say is that both you and User:HHH Pedrigree need to stop edit warring before the pair of you get blocked. Take it to the talk page and discuss it. If you can't find an agreement between the two of you, consider dispute resolution. Nici Vampire  Heart  17:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

EC3
Please, dont move Derrick Bateman's article to EC3. Wikipedia says that the article name must be the common name and his common name is Derrick Bateman. He spent years in WWE as Bateman. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 02:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Re: Cliff Compton
We provide sources in articles to verify information. If the source does not contain the information, then there is no verification and the source should not be in the article. If you have provided cites that do not contain the information they are referencing elsewhere, I strongly suggest you remove them, and refrain from doing this again. It is highly misleading. Do not re-add this, without providing a reliable cite that actually verifies his championship win. Nici Vampire  Heart  03:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

MAV TITLE
Hi. Are you sure? Usually, I see User:RibbonSalminen reverted combined list which titles only have one time wrestlers (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IWGP_Intercontinental_Championship&diff=560063637&oldid=560061459). No reigns to combine, not necesary. Also, If we want to order by reign lenght, we can use the table himself. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:23, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Jon Andersen/Strong Man
I didn't actually count the matches before I made that statement, it certainly felt like Sombra and Conway are around more than Strong Man, they're certainly presented as bigger deals in the promotion. Strong Man is basically a sideshow freak who gets a booking anytime Nakanishi needs a partner. Sombra has also worked quite regularly for NJPW since 2010 (+held an IWGP title) and by counting the matches, one can see that so far this year, Sombra has had 16 matches for NJPW and Strong Man 14. Anywho, none of this matters as none of them are official members of the roster. Some time ago Strong Man actually was on the official roster page (as one can see by the fact that he has a NJPW profile), but he has since been removed from there.リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen) (talk) 19:47, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think Strong Man just sits on his ass and eats popcorn, whenever New Japan doesn't book him. He probably works somewhere on the indy circuit, but for promotions so small that even Cagematch doesn't care about them.リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen) (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
—  Richard  BB  14:24, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Promotions
Hi, Michael. I saw you have created the AAW titles and promotion. Do you want to create more articles like that? I can help you, if you want. I'm creating the NYWC titles right now. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:55, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I want to create the NYWC titles. Also, we can create Squared Circle Wrestling, a little promotion, but with big names like Steen, or Chance Prophet. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

WWE can only rewrite history if we let them.
Check out this intro from Vengeance 2001. The Fink doesn't make mistakes. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

List of ECW (WWE) alumni
The above article is not a notable subject and is content forking of an already existing topic as ECW was owned by WWE and not an independent promotion.-- Will C  01:32, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Team Dixie
I think you've got some ownership issues with this article, which you created. But that's alright, I won't edit war even though I think your reverts make no sense.LM2000 (talk) 04:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The wikiproject in the past has made an attempt to limit and explain jargon so that these articles are accessible to everybody. You describe them as a villainous faction, which is good.  Then you describe heel wrestlers, without explaining that villainous wrestlers and heels are the same thing.  My edits accomplished that and managed to limit it to linking heel once.  I also indicated that the faction was led by Dixie, that was removed without explanation.  An expanded lede which explains the point of the faction would be somewhat desirable, no?  I've seen you edit war with others in the past and can tell you're especially motivated in this case since it's an article which you created.  I have absolutely no interest in pursuing this further as I don't have the motivation that you nor the people you've warred in the past with had.  Good luck with your article.LM2000 (talk) 04:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Mike Dalton (wrestler)
You changed the article to "Virgil (wrestler)" "Tyler Breeze" without consensus, so I had the name change reverted. It was proposed and rejected. Perhaps you should propose the renaming; WP:RM can instruct you how to implement a request. --George Ho (talk) 05:19, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Tag Team Championships
Please, stop using the term "Tag Team Championships" in articles. This is grammatically incorrect when referring to a single title. It was discussed pretty extensively here, but to summarize, quoting Feedback "..."tag titles" is a correct term as two people will both become "tag team champions". The only thing that should never be plural is "championship"". There is one championship, two championship belts. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen) (talk) 20:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen) (talk) 11:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Gaora TV Championship
No way. It's either providences/prefectures/states/etc. for everyone or no one. There can't be different rules for different countries. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen) (talk) 12:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Edge
It was explained so thoroughly in the move discussion that I really don't know how else to say it. Edge isn't like David Arquette or Dennis Rodman, he isn't known for being an actor first and a wrestler on the side. He's notable because of his 15 years in WWE so he doesn't get a separate infobox like they do. If Dwayne Johnson doesn't get a separate infobox there's no way Edge gets one.LM2000 (talk) 23:50, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

NFL playoff appearances
Hi, please provide a reliable source for such an NFL playoff appearances table. This is extremely important since the National Football League playoffs page has been promoted to Good Article status. It is also unclear as to the scope of the table. Does it go all the way back to when the NFL Championship Game was first implemented in 1933? Are you also counting the appearances in the American Football League playoffs, prior to the 1970 AFL-NFL merger, when 10 teams use to be part of the American Football League. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:02, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Stanley Cup playoff appearances
Hi, please provide a reliable source for such a Stanley Cup playoff appearances table. This is especially needed for the total for the Montreal Canadiens. Where are you getting 84 from? Remember, the Stanley Cup has NOT always been solely the NHL championship trophy, and that the Canadiens existed before the NHL was founded. And if you are going to apply the same criteria of inclusion for the Canadiens, then you should do the same for all the teams that competed for the Cup, including when the Cup playoffs were a "World Series" between various hockey league champions (1915-1926) and during the 1893 to 1914 Challenge Cup era. If you are only listing NHL playoff appearances instead (and thus excluding the time when the Canadiens were part of the National Hockey Association), then that needs to be clear. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:02, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

AJ Styles
Forgive me, I was unaware that he lost the title. I apologize for reverting your edit. Vjmlhds (talk) 02:01, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Is WSOF now top tier?
JMichael22 A few months ago there was discussion about WSOF being Top tier or not with the consensus being NOT but that it might change in - well a few months time which is about now. Please take a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mixed martial arts/MMA notability/Archive 9. If you think that WSOF is now Top tier please let me know and we can open a discussion about it and if consensus is reached - promote it. I think the minimum is 3 top ten fighters currently active with top ten being defined by a reliable source. My feeling is not yet but I am prepared to be wrong. Other things to consider is from what date for men and what date (if applicable) for women - the two are separate. I noticed you did not appear to be part of those past discussions. If we open the discussion (again let me know what you think) then it is worthwhile to ping a few others that contribute to MMA articles to get a broader consensus.

On a related note I think the WP:MMANOT is a very useful way to draw the line. It was developed over a long time by consensus but even so there will always be less than notable that get across and some more than notable than don't. Luckily for the latter there is WP:GNG but in my opinion Justin Gaethje doesn't meet WP:GNG. But that is just my opinion.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:37, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Repost of The Menagerie (TNA)
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Austin Matelson
I am glad you are working on an article for him, but almost all of the information is currently unsourced. Please add reliable sources to verify the information presented, including details in the infobox, otherwise it will be deleted from Wikipedia. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Source is correct and accurate, you are not.
If you actually read the Woodland Hills, Los Angeles article, you would see that it IS in Los Angeles County. So next time you try to publicly shame me, and tell me what is right and wrong, do a tiny little bit of research first. My source is accurate. You aren't.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seston (talk • contribs) 23:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Use common sense. If you continue this, you will be reported. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seston (talk • contribs) 06:33, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Speedy updates
Hello, how are you? I'd like to ask you to avoid speedy updates. Those are the ones in which editors starting updating every detail separately before the official announcement of the fight. If it ended in a decision, it doesn't hurt to wait for the official announcement to update everything instead of just adding the round and minutes, right? So please, avoid that. Thanks. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 23:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Once again you're making those speedy updates... Seriously, why do you have to be so stubborn about that? If you wait for official announcement, it avoids several unnecessary updates and possible mistakes. You're more than welcome to help articles, but please don't do that. Edits will be reverted and that's not necessary if you don't actas a speedy editor. Thanks (Btw, do not reply in my talk page. This conversation began here, it's supposed to stick to the same page to avoid loss of timeline). Gsfelipe94 (talk) 01:58, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Just saw here, you also did it back in July of last year... So you've done it before and did not correct it. And you added the wrong time (possibly based on your "perception" of the clock) in both of Magny and Maia's articles, which also shows there's another thing wrong. That's why you have to wait for the official announcement of the result. I hope this discussion does not need to take place again in the future, man. It's easy to do that. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 02:05, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Crimson and Bradley
Maybe, I don't explain myslef. Crimson and Bradley are unsourced. The source only says they made one apearence in TNA. There is no source about the signed with the promotion. Right now, they made one night only return, like Vader or Matt Morgan. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Again. Do you have sources about they signed contracts? Until then, It's your personal interpetation. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * About Black, talk with User:Vjmlhds. Until then, do you have sources about Bradley and Crimson signed a contract with TNA? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

August 2015
Commenting out teams from the infobox before a player has debuted for a team is standard practice for WP:BASEBALL. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 18:56, 8 August 2015 (UTC)


 * In addition, please do not selectively update player stats in infoboxes, as you did with this edit. Update all of the stats, where necessary. Thank you. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 03:16, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

JMichael22 (talk) Please note that Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) will edit or 'correct' almost any post you make on a Jays page to fit his formatting guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamDumcum (talk • contribs) 17:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

SamDumcum If any information is placed incorrectly absolutely he should let me know but if I'm placing correct information as I did I don't feel it's nessacary for anyone including you or him to let me know any additional information on the matter, please next time realize that Wikipedia is a free sourced website that anyone could edit but those who care enough place the correct information on the pages they see fit and its up to editors to correct the wrongful edits so that Wikipedia can become a credible source for information and your comments on something you knew nothing about is 100% not needed thank you for shining your light thru tho I have as much freedom to edit a Jays page as User talk:Trut-h-urts_man does as long as I follow the formatting guidelines layed out by Wikipedia not him or you JMichael22 (talk) 19:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

WSOF
I know you really want WSOF to be top tier but please take a look at. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mixed martial arts/MMA notability/Archive 9Peter Rehse (talk) 19:32, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Seth Rollins/NXT title
Hi, you seem to share the same opinion that the NXT title should be listed under WWE NXT and not be include with WWE's achievements, as it's not an official WWE title, but a developmental one. I was thinking of starting a discussion on the tall page to reach consensus, and would appreciate if you'd give your opinion on what should be done. Thanks for your time! PRwrestlinganalyst (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Removing Red Links
Howdy, I noticed that you unlinked red links in a wrestling article (Lucha Underground tournaments). I know we cannot know every single rule or guideline on Wikipedia so I figured I would share one with you as it looks you may not be aware of it: WP:RED. This states "Do not remove red links unless you are certain that Wikipedia should not have an article on that subject". I am of the belief that the linked article(s) are notable enough but just do not have an article yet. It is not okay to remove a link because it is red, it can be detrimental to Wikipedia. If you need more details I suggest you read the WP:RED page. So please keep that in mind before indiscriminately removing red links. Thank you and happy editing.  MPJ  -US 10:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

unsourced / poorly sourced stuff
Hi JMichael22, you've got to be careful about adding unsourced stuff or unreliably sourced material. For wrestling, only use sources from WP:PW/RS. Regarding Dario Cueto, you wrote that Cueto made his wrestling debut in October 2014, but I found two sources saying he appeared at Triplemanía XXII, which was earlier in 2014. starship.paint ~  KO   07:24, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I hid some stuff because there are no sources in the Filmography section. Certainly not for the episodes. Unsourced material is easily challenged and may be removed. WP:OR and WP:V come into play. starship.paint ~  KO   23:54, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be okay if IMDB is a reliable source ... but it isn't. See External links/Perennial websites / WP:RS/IMDB and Citing IMDb. By the way, Hollywood.com is not confirmed as a reliable source when I searched WP:RSN. starship.paint ~   KO   03:50, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Luis Fernandez-Gil
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Award 4 U
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TNA Championship
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Hello, how did you get Marlon Moraes accepted as an article when he does meet the MMA notability guidelines? Zaostao (talk) 23:34, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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Ways to improve World Series of Fighting 32: Moraes vs. Hill 2
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Purpose of navigation.boxes
Looking at your comment on that revert I wonder if you actually know the point of navigation boxes? To give the readers a way to go to related articles without clicking through other articles. By your logic we can just link "Lucha Underground" since it has links to all those articles? And illogically yoilu want to keep.Aztec Warfare linked even though they are all pn the same page. So for navigatjonal reasons all relevant articles should be linked in the LU navigation box - you know like they are in every other wrestling navigation box there is.  MPJ  -DK *
 * So the answer is "no" then, you don't understand the point of the navigation box. By your logic the nav box can.just be a link to Lucha Underground since your can click through to find other links. Nav boxes are to avoid "click through" for easier navigation. That is litterally the main point of the navigation boxes.  MPJ  -DK 12:58, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * So by your logic WSOF 32 does not need to be in the info box used for those shows since that already links to List of WSOF events. Just want to be sure I understand your logic and how you actually disagree with yourself on this.  MPJ  -DK *
 * What is there to discuss, do please see your own examples of a WrestleMania and Bound for Glory. WWE and TNA show templates have links to individual shows. Why discuss with everyone else when everyone else agrees with me and include each year's event in the Info Box for their PPVs. You disagree with the consensus, I agree with the consensus - I am not the one who needs to discuss it. MPJ  -DK 17:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Reasons for the changes to the table? Yours make no sense. Boxing records are not the same as MMA records, nor should they be. Different projects. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 22:58, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Then I'd recommend a read of this MOS for boxing articles, which will become widespread soon within WikiProject Boxing. It has been designed over the past year to cover a lot of formatting issues regarding boxing articles, and record tables were one of them—e.g., ditching all that small text and fully-worded months you keep trying to introduce, plus you've got rid of the tooltips explaining "SD", "MD", "UD", etc., which were essential. At no point have boxing records resembled MMA ones. Not ever. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:06, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * As for how exactly they're different, I'll point out two elements which set them apart: 1. Per MOS:DATEFORMAT, shortened months are acceptable for tables, and the boxing ones are cramped enough as it is; 2. Per MOS:FONTSIZE, small text should be used sparingly. Therefore, only the Location and Notes columns are really needed for it, plus round-end times. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:12, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * How about if the entire table were to use "font-size:85", and no individual small text? Observe this example at my sandbox. That would be similar to the MMA table, but the tooltips must go back in. And as I said, there is no reason not to shorten the dates ("January" → "Jan") for further streamlining, since you brought it up. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:29, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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Adonis Stevenson
Greetings. We've been over this before. MOS:BOXING (in this case, MOS:BOXING/RECORD) has been in place for many months now, and the format you're trying to introduce goes against consensus. I would recommend having an in-depth read of the guideline so as to gain an understanding of how the new format works. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:04, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Is is a different format. The one in place specifies the use of three-letter shortened months, not fully-worded months. Likewise no small text other than for Location and Notes. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:10, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * You're really not grasping the definition of a "format" here. It doesn't matter if something applies to an entire table, or specific elements of it (namely dates), it's still a format. And per MOS:DATEFORMAT, three-letter months are widely acceptable in tables, and is therefore used for MOS:BOXING. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:13, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Well exactly. "[W]here brevity is helpful", hence tables. What are you not getting? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:15, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * But there is no problem using three-letter months in this case. What are you not getting? MOS:BOXING was designed (and agreed upon via consensus long ago) to use a three-letter format exclusively. A whole guideline doesn't have to be changed, nor discussion started at a single article talk page, simply because one user can't grasp the use of a basic and widely acceptable format. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Right back at you—the argument you're presenting is going nowhere, and you're completely failing to grasp how a Wikipedia MOS (Manual of Style) works, and what a consensus is. From December 2015 onwards there was a consensus at WikiProject Boxing to use three-letter months for all boxing articles across WP. That was it. Not fully-worded months; three-letter months, which was an acceptable format for tables per MOS:DATEFORMAT. Done. It's not changing now, having only been in place for a year, and across hundreds of boxing articles. The only one making a big deal of it is you. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:29, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Great, glad you finally got it.. or got something, at least (I was almost about to make a Chris Jericho reference there, heh). Admittedly your lack of punctuation makes reading your posts difficult, so this exchange was a bit of a struggle—I certainly tried my best. If you want someone to complain to, I wholeheartedly suggest WP:DRN. In fact I'd be glad to join you there. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:40, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Re: Question
Jeez, learn to use punctuation already—I can barely read what you're saying. And I didn't "follow" shit. I've been posting regularly at Talk:WikiProject Boxing for two years, communicating with other users and putting a whole lot of effort into ironing out the inconsistency problems which have plagued articles. Of course I was going to post an opinion there, and I hope others will too. This isn't about you, so get over yourself. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Kendrys Morales
It's official now. It wasn't yesterday when I reverted you. See WP:CRYSTAL and WP:ETIQUETTE while you're at it. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 20:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Haha You really wanna say WP:CRYSTAL if your a Blue Jays fan and you follow them on any source of social media then you would know his signing was no guess or speculation Blue Jays Twitter TSN ESPN were all saying it was official before it was announced today so its just common sense and I posted a reliable source saying that he agreed to a three-year deal that's not Crystalball JMichael22 (talk) 20:09, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I have moved your response here to keep the discussion together. Maybe you need someone to illustrate to you what an official signing looks like. "Agreed to" isn't an official signing, it is an agreement pending the completion of a physical and confirmation by the team. The signing doesn't become official until the player passes their physical and the team confirms it, and it doesn't matter what TSN, ESPN, or anyone else says. Trut-h-urts man  (T • C) 20:17, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

NBA teams' accomplishments and records
Please stop updating the statistics in Franchise leaders sections as that is AGAINST the consensus of the WikiProject and Wikipedia in general. Statistics can be updated after the season is over. – Sabbatino (talk) 16:35, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Not really sure why You messaged me or what your meaning by your comment it's not really anything that goes against Wikipedia policy's so in the future try to be a little more clear on what your trying to say all I'm doing is creating the main pages for a NBA team's franchise records and placing them on the main page of the team no where does it say its against policy to do that the pages are being viewed over and accepted by other people so next time when you feel a certain way please be more clear about what your trying to say thank you JMichael22 (talk) 17:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Please keep the discussion on your talk page. I don't mind with the creation of those articles. But you're updating the statistics of Franchise leaders, which is against the community's consensus and Wikipedia's general rules. – Sabbatino (talk) 17:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Ohhhhh my well to help you understand and grasp the concept of things better I'll explain to you the process okay User:Sabbatino so please read very carefully (when a page is created it must hold the correct up to date information on it so as I am created a page I am putting the most up to date information that i a man provided from the sources I use so when you say "You're updating the statics of franchise leaders, which is against the community's consensus and Wikipedia s general rules" that's where I stop and say well no I'm not all I'm doing it placing the up to date information as of the date the page is created I know that the stats can only be refreshed once the season has ended but for you to not understand that I think you should do a little more research into grasping that concept instead wasting time messaging me about a concept you yet to understand I've been editing and creating pages enough to understand the rules but thanks for your concern JMichael22 (talk) 17:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I couldn't understand a single word that you wrote, because your grammar is tragic and I don't see when the sentence starts or ends. It's clear that you in fact don't know what policies or rules are. Happy editing, but don't start crying when some other user points out the same things. I'm not going to write anything to you even if you decide to reply so don't waste your time. – Sabbatino (talk) 18:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Beer City Bruiser
Hey - I have no idea how to do anything on here so I'll ask you..do you wanna make a Wikipedia page for Beer City Bruiser? He doesn't have one on here..so..it'd be super cool. Let me know! Bcbwifey (talk) 19:10, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Combined reigns
The last discussion on it is here. Basically, nothing was settled. I will continue to enforce my side of the argument on articles that are on my watchlist, I'll let people who have the WWE Universal Championship on their watchlist worry about that. REEEEEbbon Salminen  (talk''')  20:50, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Re: Boxing Rec Question
There was consideration back in December 2015 to split the Round, time column, but it would've resulted in a whole bunch of blank fields for decision results, or having "3:00" in them—which just looks flat-out strange, even in the MMA records. As for different record formats, I can't say much about that. The kickboxing ones look bizarre to me, but I've never bothered with them because I don't watch the sport (used to sometimes in the Remy Bonjasky days). The current boxing records were adopted and inspired by the MMA records, but the intention was never to imitate them—there's a lot of difference between boxing and MMA. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:58, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Re: Money Belt
Doesn't matter what the corrupt WBC says—a ceremonial and laughable "Money Belt" is not a legit world title and never will be; the current WBC light middleweight champion is Jermell Charlo. Therefore it doesn't belong in that section per long-standing consensus for MOS:BOXING, specifically MOS:BOXING/RECORDNOT. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 14:46, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I have removed it from the record table on Conor McGregor as well. — nihlus kryik   ( talk ) 14:53, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * To help, these do not belong in the tables:
 * Red x.svg "Professional debut" is deprecated; due to the No. column, this is redundant unless a boxer's debut occurred under disputed circumstances.
 * Red x.svg Routine in-fight details such as knockdowns, point deductions, or judges' scorecards.
 * Red x.svg Title eliminators; most fights are for some kind of sanctioning body ranking, and eliminators do not always mean a guaranteed title opportunity.
 * Red x.svg Honorary titles such as WBC Diamond or WBO Super.
 * Red x.svg Listing undisputed titles is redundant, since the inclusion of the appropriate sanctioning bodies (WBA, WBC, IBF; and WBO after 2006) already covers it. Undisputed titles can, however, be expanded upon in the succession box at the bottom of the article.
 * Red x.svg If a title was not at stake for a boxer who missed weight, then it does not need mentioning at all; only mention it on the record for the boxer who was eligible to fight for it.
 * Red x.svg Post-fight awards such as The Ring Fight of the Year or The Ring Upset of the Year; they also belong in the succession box.
 * Red x.svg Details surrounding pre- or post-fight circumstances including catchweights, boxers losing titles on the scales, vacating, or being stripped; they are better served in the article body.
 * Red x.svg Trivia such as "first twelve-rounder", "first bout on network TV", or other "first"s; best explained in the article body.
 * Red x.svg Extra rows for retirements, suspensions or other periods of inactivity: example.
 * The Money Belt is an honorary title and not a legitimate title. — nihlus kryik   ( talk ) 14:57, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It says as clear as day: "Honorary titles such as WBC Diamond" That includes any of the WBC's silly made-up trinkets which aren't legit world titles. It's not me who's deciding any of this—consensus for the MOS was formed at WikiProject Boxing almost two years ago. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 14:58, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Would like your input on this
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NWA
Hi. I see you changed some NWA champions because the titles were vacated (Women's, Tag Team and National) Do you have the sources? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:50, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Well. You said the National, Women's and Tag Team titles were vacated, but i couldn't find any source--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Please take a look at "Cold Water Cowboys" article
Hi. I noticed that you edited Off the Hook: Extreme Catches article. I made an article about a similar Canadian show Cold Water Cowboys. Can you please a look at it? It is at AfC process now. Is something missing from it? Any improvement suggestions? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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Re: Mashantucket
I can never make out heads nor tails of what you write, due to your complete lack of paragraphs and punctuation. After you gave me this ("iv heard enough from him"), it shows that you know full well we don't see eye-to-eye on anything around here. I'll address your points either way:


 * 1) Official Foxwoods website, and it says right there—Ledyard, in which Mashantucket is located. MOS:BOXING/RECORD has had that guideline place for almost two years without dispute.
 * 2) I very clearly do put NYC as the location of Barclays Center, in all record tables. That's the whole point. Brooklyn, an area, is within the city of NYC. Same logic as Mashantucket, an area, is within the town of Ledyard.

Since you've already presumptuously dismissed my stance as "defeated", and declared yourself the "winner", that means we need no further discussion. No editors besides yourself have disputed the Ledyard thing on WikiProject Project since the MOS was created, hence longstanding consensus. Also, read WP:WINNING. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 02:53, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * You've got it wrong on this. Per WP:CCC, the editor who has an issue with existing consensus should bring it up at a talk page, which you've been invited to do by two editors adhering to that consensus. You're the one continuing to edit war, by reverting four times now. Not a good look. I'll let the folks at WP:EWN handle it. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 03:06, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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