User talk:JPG-GR/Archive 3

WYCD
I made an on-air lineup for WYCD (99.5) in detroit and it was up there for a month and then you take it off. i then put it back on and it goes back off. i dont understand why you did that? was it a policy? if so why is there other on-air lineups on other radio pages? 11:51, July 2 2007 -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.162.25.36 (talk • contribs)
 * Please see the edit summary on said article for an explanation. JPG-GR 00:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Please see WP:NOT 2.6.3. JPG-GR 01:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Tokusatsu Monster Images-related
Any reason why you don't want the image request on the Power Rangers and Beetleborgs monster pages that don't have images? Don't you think that visitors of Wikipedia (and are unaware of your website) wanted to know what they looked like? If you want to update your site with the monster info from Mystic Force to Operation: Overdrive, try watching it's episodes on YouTube. Rtkat3 (talk) 5:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The requests are both unnecessary and not standardized Wikipedia templates. If you feel these images are necessary, find the proper template to use. JPG-GR 00:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Rtkat yet again, I think images should be added to their pages. It could well be that a lot of Wikipedia moderators are biased. 71.167.117.241 22:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

wprj
WPRJ is a small station and has a strong community involvement. We feel that the listed DJ's are a central part of the short history of the station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.100.228 (talk • contribs)
 * I'm not sure who "we" is (let alone, you, as you neglected to sign your comment). The personal career history of each DJ at this station is crufty and not notable enough for inclusion. In reality, if the radio station is as small as you feel it is, and that in order to have it "appear" important you have to add all this stuff, it may end up getting deleted for failing WP:NOTABLE. JPG-GR 02:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

WFLS
Thanks for your many updates, but could you please update the market templates with your changes as you go. I would greatly appericate it:) Take Care... NeutralHomer  T:C 23:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * While I understand that these multiple changes may cause havoc with the market templates, the reason I haven't been messing with them is (a) these fixes affect market templates, corporate templates, etc. and (b) there may very likely be more changes to the same template in the future. At this point, it seems better to let others catch up the templates, and whatever is left at the end, I'll grab systematically like I'm doing these. JPG-GR 07:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

List O' Call Signs
I added some Wikilinks to your list o' call signs. I am working on getting a page for each station in the state of Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland. Last week, the Fredericksburg, Harrisonburg, and Charlottesville DMAs were completely covered. So, I am working on it. Please check my contribs regularly as I make and add more pages. - NeutralHomer  T:C 02:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I moved two of the articles you created to their proper callsigns and then created a redirect for the third. (None required any additional edits to the list.) It should be noted that if you want templates to point directly to station articles at all times, you should probably create station articles at their official callsigns in the first place, rather than having them be moved later. JPG-GR 03:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Stations
If you move a station page in Virginia, West Virginia or Maryland, could you please let me know. This is alot of work that I am having to do to catch up on the pages you are moving for the templates. I would appericate the heads up. - NeutralHomer  T:C 04:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And, I and the rest of the members of WP:WPRS would appreciate that you start articles where they belong in the first place so we don't have to move them later on. JPG-GR 04:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Additionally, please stop changing the disambig pages I have been setting up. These pages must link directly to the articles (which would be those with (AM) suffixes, as NO station officially has an -AM suffix in the FM database). Additionally, piped links are frowned upon, as they aren't helping to disambiguate anything if the user doesn't know what's going on. JPG-GR 04:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * On the disambig pages I am not changing the links, but am taking out the, the link itself remains the same. Example WCMD-AM  So, I would appericate you not throwing around "vandalism" where there is none.  That is insulting and uncalled for.


 * Second, I name articles by just the call letters, unless there is article by that name then I add in either -AM or -FM, like with WCMD. If there is an AM and an FM, like WINC, I name them WINC-AM and WINC-FM.  I don't understand the whole call letter name process that you all have, I just make the article.  That is my entire job.  I let you worry aobut the little stuff.


 * Third, in the case of WFRB-AM, WFRB-AM has simulcasted sister WTBO-AM for years, and with the lack of a WFRB-AM wiki page and there not needing to be one, I wikilinked it to it's simulcaster WTBO. Yes, infoboxes are needed for both stations on that page, I am working on it.  I am trying to undertake a ambitious little project here and making station pages for all the radio stations in Virginia, West Virginia and Maryland (then expanding from there), so if my changes aren't immediate, you just gotta wait.


 * Finally, and again, I resent the "vandalism" claim. If it was genuine vandalism, then yes, you could claim that, but since it isn't, I do believe you own me an apology, because my track record shows, I don't vandalise. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 05:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Your continued editting against established Wikipedia conventions can be construed as vandalism, though that perhaps is a little strong. (1) I have explained that piping on dab pages is inappropriate -- especially since "WCMD-AM" is the callsign you are giving a station -- one that is not technically proper to the FCC or WP. (2) If you cannot be "bothered" to name articles correctly, you cannot possibly fault editors who fix the names and don't go through and fix everything that links to it, allowing redirects to do the job. (3) I have done nothing that prevents your WFRB-WTBO pairing. Perhaps you do not understand how I am doing it, but I am trying to keep it all within naming conventions.
 * I don't care if you want to call it vandalism, ignorance to policy, or what, but do know that I am not tying to fight with you. Please, continue to create and work on already existent articles and know that I'm merely trying to make everything proper in the greater WP-sense. JPG-GR 05:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I understand what you are doing, and that is fine, but you have to admit "WCMD-AM" looks aesthetically better than WCMD (AM). I am not changing the wikilink, don't want to.  I am changing how it looks to the reader.  Most won't understand the reason for (AM).  We don't, most won't.  Hence why I left the wikilink and article name as "WCMD (AM)" and changed it on the disambig page to "WCMD-AM" (again, leaving the Wikilink the same).


 * But since you obviously don't like the way I name my articles and are throwing around "vandalism" and "ignorance", all you are wanting it to cause a fight, using that kind of language and calling someone a vandal would cause one. But you fight with yourself.  Just fix the templates and we have no problems. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 05:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, aesthetics are irrelevant. Naming conventions deem that parentheticals are used to disambiguate, especially since the suffixes are part of the official names. Technically, WCMD-AM and WCMD (AM) are not the same thing (even though you and I reasonably say they are). Piping links (as in something else ) is highly frowned upon on dab pages, which is why I have reverted them.
 * As for the templates, someone will get to them when they get to them. It's not my job to fix all of Wikipedia. You're working on creating articles. I'm working on fixing names. Anyone can fix the templates, and at this point, that someone is not me. JPG-GR 05:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Question
Do you know why they changed all the templates to standard  templates? The radiologo ones were essentially the same thing, but just said "radio logo" on them. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Stephens City, VA
The permission is on record, sent it myself, if you would sent an email, via my email link, I will forward it to you as well. - NeutralHomer  T:C 19:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Is it on record with the Foundation? JPG-GR 19:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was told to send it to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org" (an OTRS address)". I did, never heard anything back.  I still have the permission saved on my email account if you would like proof that it exsists. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 19:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * As long as you've followed the procedure, I'm fine with it. JPG-GR 19:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I am just waiting on a reply. I will let you know when I get that reply. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 20:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Deserved
If you have much more than 500+ please don't be offended; I am thinking about But I have to make them first Pseudoanonymous 19:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Chain Barnstar of Merit: 1500+
 * The Chain Barnstar of Diligence: 2500+
 * The Wikipedian's Chain Barnstar of Honour: 5000+

Shahrukh Khan
I wonder why you removed his name from WP:RM when actually his name has not been corrected yet. -- Shahid •  Talk 2 me  00:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * oops. I only meant to remove the first one. I'll restore it. JPG-GR 00:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It's OK, but can't you redirect the page for yourself? It was discussed on the article talk page, and now it can be done. -- Shahid •  Talk 2 me  00:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, don't have those kinds of powers. JPG-GR 00:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * LOL, OK thanks:) Good night! -- Shahid •  Talk 2 me  00:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Radio Pages
I will be working on the rest of the Morgantown, WV radio market tonight, so if you want to keep an eye on my contribs page, in case you need to make some changes. - NeutralHomer  T:C 01:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Will do. JPG-GR 01:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Got another idea, since I am just click on the links on the Template:Morgantown Radio, could update the links on there? On there, there is no -FM or (from 94.3 to the end on the FM section) and no -AM on the AM section.  This would save you alot of time. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 02:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's not saving me any time, as I'm not working on the templates. Go ahead and be bold if you like. JPG-GR 02:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was meaning so you wouldn't have to rename the pages after they were made, but whichever way works for you, works for me. Hey, once I get VA/WV/MD done, let me know what states need pages made.  My plan is for each radio station to have a page on Wikipedia like each TV station does. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 03:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You're missing the complete point. It doesn't matter if every wikilink is linked to an article under one name -- if the article name is incorrect according to the naming conventions, it is getting moved. This is why I wish you would actually take the time to read through and learn the naming conventions and then check the FCC database before creating these articles. THAT would save me the hassle of renaming articles. JPG-GR 03:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you are missing what I was asking. I was asking why don't you switch the red links on the template, cause I am clicking on them and then making the page from there, so when I do, it makes the proper page.  Cause right now, I am not using any -FMs or -AMs unless necessary, which ain't often.


 * So, what I was trying to say, is would you change the red links on the template, that would save you time. I guess where I am confused is if I don't add -FM/-AM it is wrong and if I do add -FM/-AM it is wrong, so I guess that is where I get confused with the whole naming convention thing. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 05:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know which are correct and which aren't until I get to them in the list. Moreover, I'm not gonna search for redlinks (for example) WXXX (FM) and WXXX-FM when the article should be WXXX. JPG-GR 05:53, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WCLG-AM/FM
ooooops! I was just in the process of finishing of the FM rewrite and then was going to make a disambig page on WCLG. Let me know if the way I have it, plus the disambig to made forthwith, is OK. Sorry about that. Take Care... NeutralHomer T:C 06:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just did the dab page. Other than doing WCLG-AM -> WCLG (AM) (no AM station will EVER use "-AM", just fyi), all is good now. JPG-GR 06:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ...and you already got the disambig page done. Nice work:)
 * Wow, I didn't know that about the -AM/(AM) thing. Thanks! -  NeutralHomer  T:C 06:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WAJR
If you would have given me another minute, I would have had that disambig page up. WAJR-AM and WAJR-FM are seperate stations with seperate schedules. That was my mistake there, which I have corrected. There is now seperate pages for both WAJR (with the exsisting history and information) and WAJR-FM. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you can't do what you just did. Once an article is created at a location, you can't just blank it to move it. An administrator has to take care of it. This is why you have to be more careful where you are creating articles and learn the appropriate naming conventions. I've already put in the request to have the move taken care of, but it will take some time. JPG-GR 06:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I do things a bit different, but I try to do things quick enough that pages are only goofed up for the shortest amount of time possible. I can make the disambig page first, if you like then make the seperate station pages in the future to avoid this.  Either way works for me. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 06:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer you'd just take the time to actually learn the damn naming conventions. Notice how every little thing we discuss gets right back to this same underlying issue? At this point, you are being as much helpful as destructive to WP:WPRS if you're not gonna follow policy. JPG-GR 06:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow...I have never been told I was being destructive making a radio page. Interesting.  Anyway, I have moved the already typed information about WAJR-AM and copied it to WAJR where you have WAJR-AM currectly.  It is silly to have information about WAJR-FM, when WAJR-FM has it's own page. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 07:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * To take a completely way out there example, it's no different than creating an article about a trout with an article named apple. It's not correct, and it causes move problems later on. JPG-GR 07:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * oookay? Anyway, it is done, so let's move on and not leave "chaos" comments, shall we? -  NeutralHomer  T:C 07:13, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Learn the naming conventions so it doesn't happen again, and sure. JPG-GR 07:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WFBY
Take a look at WFBY, I am seriously considering combining the and  market templates into one template for North-Central West Virginia. Since most, if not all of the stations on the template can be heard in the Morgantown-Clarksburg-Fairmont area and some of the stations on the  are licensed to Buckhannon or Weston and not on that markets template, it is silly to have two templates. //yes, I know this is probably confusing what I just wrote//

So, what do you think about the template combination? - NeutralHomer  T:C 07:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * As long as these two don't represent two different Arbitron markets, I have no issue with it. But, I'm not the end all, be all, either. JPG-GR 16:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Upon looking at the templates, you're not gonna be able to combine them -- each represents a different Arbitron market, so they have to remain separate. JPG-GR 23:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WPDX
I am going to need to move WPDX-AM back to WPDX (AM). In my tired state last night, I forgot to make a disambig page for the two stations. So, where you have the AM station now, on WPDX, will have to be moved back to WPDX (AM), I will make a disambig page immediately following. - NeutralHomer  T:C 22:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actally, the same would go for WOBG-AM as well. - NeutralHomer  T:C 22:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ - JPG-GR 22:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) - 22:53, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Disambig pages for WOBG-AM/FM and WPDX-AM/FM have been made. - NeutralHomer  T:C 22:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

More Pages
I am working on more pages, so keep an eye on my contribs. Also, if you see the WAFD logo, yes, that is their logo, as crappy as it is, it is from the parent company's website. - NeutralHomer  T:C 23:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WAMC-FM move request
Had you noticed that there is another recent move request on the WAMC-FM talk page, to move WAMC-FM → Northeast Public Radio? I don’t if this was resolved. This is kind of a mess. Northeast Public Radio is a double redirect to WAMC, which then redirects to WAMC-FM. Also, Talk:WAMC-FM redirects to Talk:WAMC (FM). I am going to fix the double redirect right now. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 00:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The website refers to them was "WAMC/Northeast Public Radio." Normally, a station should be listed under its official callsign, BUT this is no single station. We could settle for a new WAMC Northeast Public Radio and then fix all the redirects to that, but I don't know. JPG-GR 01:07, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on the matter. I just pointed it out in case you had not seen it previously. I will let the project and the interested parties sort it out. If you need admin assistance when the matter is resolved, let me know. By the way, when you post a request on Requested Moves, you should also post a notice of the request on the article’s talk page. You can use the templates provided on Requested moves. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 01:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Normally, I would. Then again, I generally only deal in uncontroversial naming convention moves that don't require it. JPG-GR 01:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

WWKF/WAKQ
I think you will find the page quite cleaned up and infoboxes updated and everything Wikified. - NeutralHomer  T:C 07:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Translators
Do you have consensus to do that? These are not some tiny one sentence articles, please revert your changes. - NeutralHomer  T:C 00:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This has been discussed before. As no one is currently weighing in at WP:WPRS, I'm being bold. JPG-GR 00:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, with the amount of work that User:Transent put into those pages, I would ask that you ask his opinion on your boldness and give WP:WPRS a little longer. Trust me, I have waited a week or so for an answer on something.  It moves pretty slow on WP:WPRS, WP:TVS too. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 00:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I am currently following precedent before it is written into policy. Additionally, please read WP:EFFORT. Just because an editor puts a lot of time into an article doesn't mean that it is worthy of being included. As this is not a deletion argument, this is even moreso pertinent. The info will be merged into that of the greater station. JPG-GR 00:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I am just saying that I think asking the editor's his opinion on the move would be a nice gesture, regardless if he was the only one to make edits on the page or just updated it alot. If the page are ultimately merged to the parent station, then the information included in the moved pages should be transfered to the parent station.  Like I did with WNRN. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 00:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you are misunderstanding what happens during a WP:MERGE. Perhaps you should read up on that before you continue your argument. JPG-GR 00:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think you are understanding that we let people, who have worked on pages and projects, of their impending merge. Since you won't, I will let him know. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 01:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Like most Wikipedians, I'm sure that if this article is as important to the editor as you feel, he has it on his watch page. What would be wrong would be to merge without discussion. Please do not take the "us against you" stance, as it, frankly, is quite laughable. JPG-GR 01:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I am not taking a "you against me" stance, I am just trying to get a point across that if you are going to tag a page for merging or if you are going to move a page, you should let the editors know ahead of time and in this case, it would be User:Transent. There is no "stance" there, that is just a nice gesture.  But if you want to take it as a "you against me" stance, then that is up to you and you would be wrong. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 01:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * See above, your words: "I don't think you are understanding that we let people," JPG-GR 01:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, if you would get your ego out of the way, you might notice that should read "No, I don't think you are understanding that we let people, who have worked on pages and projects, know of their impending merge" and that I left out a word.
 * Since you obviously just want to have a petty arguement, I am going to let you argue with yourself. You know, you are making it vert difficult to work with you. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 01:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You're completely missing the part where you sounded conceited. And, I'm not the one trying to work with you. I'm working toward a greater Wikipedia, and following policy. Just because you don't like the policies isn't really my problem. JPG-GR 01:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Since you obviously just want to have a petty arguement, I am going to let you argue with yourself. - NeutralHomer  T:C 02:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's a better idea -- take me off of your list of users whose talk pages you post to incessantly. Have a nice day. JPG-GR 02:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's an even better idea, how about you stiop "stalking" my contribs. I make a page, you screw with it.  That's an even better idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neutralhomer (talk • contribs) 03:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There have been at least two instances where you have written on my talk page for me to keep an eye on your contribs. Please make up your mind. JPG-GR 03:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:
OK, if you actually notice in most cases it keeps the External Links where they are supposed to be and the market template below the infobox not crunched beside it. In this case, it doesn't make a different, but I add it no matter what. The code does nothing to the page, so you are really just trying to pick a fight here. I am going to revert the change and ask that you stop this little petty edit warring you are trying to do on each page. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:18, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not picking a fight here -- please stop thinking that my edits revolve around you. As you can tell from my recent activity, I just finished the WHxx FM radio stations this evening, and that article is one of them. At this point, if you don't want to follow WP:MOS, fine. Let some other (unfortunate) editor get harassed by you for a few days. Maybe they'll rethink their dedication to this project, too. JPG-GR 06:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Dude, I am not "harrassing" you, I am responding to a message you left on my talk page. If you don't want me to respond, don't leave a message.  If you want to "rethink their dedication to this project", then that is you choice not mine.


 * With the exception of User:Transent and User:The Punk, there really is no one who is making radio pages here, why not actually put some of the energy you have for throwing little quips like "let some other (unfortunate) editor get harassed by you for a few days" and actually help me with some of these pages.


 * I am currently working on the template and attempting to get these radio pages up and on Wiki.  If you want to take a stab of the AM section and I will work on the FMs, I would appericate it.  If you forward your email, via my email link, I will send you the "templates" I use for the radio pages.


 * I don't want to argue with you, I want to work with you, but when we are going back and forth at each other, neither of us is getting anything done. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * For the last time, I have no interest in radio market templates at this time. Work on your niche area of radio station articles, and I'll work on mine. JPG-GR 06:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't saying about the templates, I am working on making articles from that template.


 * OK.... has stations listed in red, I am clicking on those red links and making stations pages.  That's what I am talking about.


 * I used "templates" (for lack of a better term) for infoboxes and whatnot on those pages, that I have saved on my computer. Most, if not all of them are up to WP:WPRS standards.


 * But I am working on making individual pages for each radio station (each red link) on the template.  Not working on the template itself, working on making articles that are currently redlinks on that template. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 06:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk Pages
I ask that you ask first before changing anything on anyone's user page or changing any headers on anyones user or talk pages. This is just common courtesy. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Let it be known that you need to either remove those personal attacks from your talk page or I will report you for your continued harassment. Your choice. JPG-GR 06:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I am going to say this nicely, very nicely, please stop posting on my talk page, "tracking" my edits (then editing immediately after me...looks a little suspicious), and don't post little hidden links to my talk page on your talk page. I don't find this amusing and if it continues, you will have left me with no choice but to inform an admin.


 * I have said before, I don't want to argue with you, but making edits like you are at the moment, you are trying to start a fight, for what reason I am not sure, and it ain't happening. Now, we can either work together on radio pages or we can stay as far away from each other as possible, but making little edits on my talk page header and leaving hidden links to my talk page on your talk page is not the way to go.  If you want to threaten to report me, you go right ahead, threaten away.  I am going to be the better poerson here and walk away.


 * Any posts on my talk page will be reverted instantly, changes any headers will be reverted without warning and you can have an arguement with yourself. I have been very patient and polite with you, you can't say I haven't.  You have a good day. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 06:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

 A request has been made of the Mediation Cabal for mediation on this page.

Please do not remove this notice until the issue is resolved. Preloaded case page

Move request
Regarding moving WWRT-FM → WWRE: Is WWRT-FM simply a repeater of WWRE? That was not entirely clear from the article. The article says they "simulcast each other". If WWRT is a repeater, then I would agree with your request. Perhaps "repeater" is not the right term—I am not familiar with radio station terminology. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 00:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "Repeater" is as good a term as any. I'm having trouble finding a convincing argument for WWRT being a repeater of WWRE or vice versa. I'm going to keep looking, but whether the article ends up at WWRT or WWRE, both WWRT-FM and the possibility of WWRE-FM would be wrong locations. JPG-GR 00:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The more I do look, it looks like WWRT would be the better location, as the website lists that station first in its title (yeah, that's the best I've got so far). JPG-GR 00:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I will not do anything with it until you find the definitive answer. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 00:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a slight note on this subject (this was on my watch page, I live near the COL, made the article)...the really is not true "parent" station and no real "simulcasting" station with WWRT/WWRE. Both stations are run out of the WINC-FM/AM studios in Winchester and carry the same programming in sync with each other and have been running that way since 1989.  Originially User:Bearcat moved the pages around from the original Real Classic Rock title I put them at and finally used which station went on the air first to finally title the page, of course leaving it with WWRT.


 * But there really is not set parent/"repeater" between the two. - NeutralHomer  T:C 04:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Question concerning the Power Rangers video games
In the seasonal lists of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers monsters, many users have mentioned the appearances the monsters have made in the video game tie ins. I was wondering, would it be more benefitial to move the video game appearances down to the bottom of the page and title it as Other Media? Thought I'd ask as you've done more editing on Wikipedia than I have. 71.115.195.228 07:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm probably the wrong guy to ask, as I find the video game trivia completely irrelevant to the greater hole, but have left it be. JPG-GR 00:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

RE:
I tested it and it does do pretty much the same thing, so I added it to the "templates" (for lack of a better term) that I used to create the radio station pages (so they all look uniform) and they will begin showing up soon. Probably not today though....today I will be in a theatre somewhere....Simpsons Movie! Take Care... NeutralHomer  T:C 08:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to be away from the theater tonight.
 * I also use a "template" to make my radio station articles look similar.
 * If you are going to see The Simpsons Movie, be prepared not to breathe for a couple, you will laugh that hard. I know most of the people in the theatre when I seen it did.  Also, if you go to The Simpsons Movie, stick around after the credits roll and stay to the very end of the credits, trust me.  Take Care and Have a Good Weekend.... NeutralHomer  T:C 01:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I -despise- The Simpsons. Secondly, no need to tell me about stuff after the credits -- I tend to catch that stuff when I build them up. JPG-GR 01:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 'Tis cool, to each is own. It was a really good, really funny movie though.  Seen a couple previews that looked awesome.  Best part, no screaming children or ringing cell phones :)  Take Care.... NeutralHomer  T:C 04:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

USA radio statiion article rename requests

 * Currently WRAX is a redirect to WJOX-FM. Please correct it if necessary: I live in England and I know little about USA radio stations. Anthony Appleyard 09:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Taken care of. Thanks for all your help! JPG-GR 00:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

WFYI TV and FM
Why did you split this article when there was no consensus to do so? The combined article was so small that there was no need to split them. Both stations are operated by the same organization and are located at the same facility. They are basically the same entity. --rogerd 15:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Because it was tagged with split-multiple and I didn't disagree with the idea (basically, I was bold). Go ahead and put them back together at WFYI if you like, just keep WFYI (TV) & WFYI-FM as redirects. JPG-GR 00:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

WAMA
I moved WAMA to WAMA (band) and WAMA (disambiguation) to WAMA. List of radio stations in Florida still links to WAMA. You will have to correct that link when you create the page for the radio station. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 04:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your continued assistance! JPG-GR 04:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You are fast! I barely had my fingers off the keyboard before you had the radio station article created and the Florida list link corrected. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 04:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * When I'm in "crazy Wikipedia edit mode", there is no stopping me! ;-) JPG-GR 04:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Disambig pages
Just a quick note on disambiguation page entries. Per the Manual of Style (disambiguation pages): Normally you should link only the primary link, and not other words in the text. Note that I removed the links to radio station and Tampa, Florida on the WAMA page. &#9679;DanMS • Talk 04:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wasn't aware of that one. I'll be sure to follow that in the future. - JPG-GR 05:15, July 28, 2007 (UTC)

WCBC-AM/FM
Just a little note, WCBC-FM in licensed to Keyser, West Virginia, most people think it is licensed to Cumberland too, so no worries. I corrected the disambig page for ya, just thought I would let you know. Hope you had a good weekend. Take Care.... NeutralHomer T:C 23:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

variety (radio)
I'm disambigging to variety (radio) because all the terms need to be disambigged to something. Right now they point to a disambig page which provides little useful information. My hope is that with all the redlinks, someone with the right knowledge (maybe you?) will create the page. The other choice is simply to remove the wikilinks, and I don't think that makes sense, as the other radio formats have pages. Simon12 04:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, thanks. JPG-GR 04:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

WAGA (disambiguation) et al.
I've challenged your requested move of these pages at Talk:WAGA (disambiguation). &mdash; stickguy (:^›)&mdash; || talk || 22:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've noticed. In terms of technically mis-named radio station articles, these ones can be argued either way, so I graciously stand down on this move request. JPG-GR 05:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Talk Pages (2)
I am aware that talk pages aren't supposed to be deleted or erased, but that was not my intention. The user that posted the statement I deleted is trying to get an edit that is in violation of WP:NOT on the page anyway he can, adding it to the talk page is just as wrong as adding it to the actual article page, hence my deletion.

I have patiently and politely explained the rules to the user in question, but obviously not well enough, I guess. - NeutralHomer  T:C 23:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all fine and well, but it's hard to convince an editor to follow polices A, B, & C if you're violating policy D. JPG-GR 23:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This is completely true and I was, at that point, very irritated by that user, not an excuse though, so that is one on me, my apologizes. - NeutralHomer  T:C 23:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Bee Cliff River Slob
This user has repeatedly edited the WHCB, WHGB, WHGG, and WPWT pages with information that is in violation of WP:MOS, WP:NOT, WP:NOT, and the rules of WP:WPRS. I took time to state would could and couldn't be allowed in a radio station article to no avail. The user just reverts the pages back to his version, also in violation of WP:OWN. Tonight, the user is now adding links to a "critical blog" in the external links of each radio station.

I have been more than polite and patient with this user, but is has become obvious that the user is not interested in following set rules by Wikipedia and WP:WPRS.

Tonight, he has added links to blogs that are "critical" of a Tennessee representative, of course not necessary for the radio station article nor cited in the article.

Since you are better at the rules of Wikipedia, could you have a word with him, cause I have exhausted my patience with him and my patience is pretty thin to begin with. I would appericate it. Take Care..... NeutralHomer T:C 04:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You do remember the week or so when I tried to explain the rules to you, right? Thanks, but I'll pass. JPG-GR 04:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the swipe and the assistance. Sheesh. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 05:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Need An Opinion
I am considering making a template for the stations of VerStandig Broadcasting. VerStandig owns 4 stations in the Hagerstown, MD market and 5 stations in the Harrisonburg, VA market.

I wondering "is Verstandig too small for their own template"? West Virginia Radio Corporation has their own and owns more stations, but Allbritton Communications (owns only TV stations) has their own and owns less than VerStandig...so I am not sure what to do. Hence my asking of your opinion.

Do you think a company that owns 9 stations in 2 seperate markets should have it's own template? Also, to let you know, I am not asking you for your assistance with the template, just your opinion. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd argue against it for the (less important) reason of there not being enough stations and the (more important) reason of the company itself apparently not having an article yet. JPG-GR 00:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, if I were to make an article for the station, which would not be a problem, would your opinion change? I am just asking, cause an article about VerStandig would be easy to write up. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 00:59, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Still not enough stations to warrant the template. JPG-GR 00:59, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, fair enough :) Take Care.... NeutralHomer  T:C 01:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

WOMC Note
I noticed that, like on the WOMC page, you add the Radio-Locator information inside the infobox, which is cool. But to save you the time of copy/pasting the whole Radio-Locator link, there is a template like (like the FCC link) to Radio-Locator.

For FM stations it is and for AM stations it is.

It is not necessary to add -FM to FM stations or (AM)/-AM to AM stations. Hope this saves you some time, it is something I use, but didn't create, just a nice shortcut. - NeutralHomer  T:C 20:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I am familiar with the template, but had already completed/corrected every Michigan article once I discovered it. JPG-GR 20:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie....not sure if you had. Also, I noticed on the MedCab that you are "miffed" that I am messaging you with a question or when I am in need of an opinion.  I am sorry.  I was just trying to be polite and social.  I will leave you be and thanks for your help.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  T:C 20:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Not Sure Who to Ask
My apologizes for going back on what I said above, but this is something I haven't encountered before. I went to change the website of WBIG-FM from the former wbig.com to idigbig.com (which is their technical website and they advertise it ad nasuem) and I got a "Spam protection filter" warning. I am kinda confused as to why the station's website is on the blacklist.

Since you probably know where to look and who to ask more than I, could you get it taken off the blacklist so that I may add it? If so, I would appericate it.

Again, my apologizes for bothering you after my above statement, but this is something I didn't know how to handle. - NeutralHomer  T:C 03:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's cool -- I don't mind a question every now and then. I seem to vaguely recall this happening to me once many moons ago, but I don't recall the solution. You gotta admit, that site name LOOKS like a spam site. If the old site is gone, I'd say remove it and leave it blank until this can get taken care of. JPG-GR 03:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The old site isn't gone, just wbig.com redirects to idigbig.com. I put it back to wbig.com as the URL and the text as idigbig.com for the time being. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 04:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply (regarding this)
What the hell are you reading that's not influence. The tally board is not hurtting anything, Dude! All it's doing is Saying x many for the move and x many against the move. I see nothing wrong with it especially since it's appart of the Template. You've got some anger issues, Dude.-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 04:22, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a part of the template after you added it to it without any prior discussion. JPG-GR 04:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your losing your head over something Micro...focus on the vandalism on the articles instead.-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 04:30, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And you are violating one of the policies of Wikipedia, and then trying to change the subject. JPG-GR 04:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If it makes you feel any better JPG-GR, I'll remove the template. Although it wouldn't matter much since the consensus is showing approval for the move. -- bullet proof  3:16 04:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what makes the tally box so ridiculous -- the consensus is quite clear, and has been for a day or so. JPG-GR 04:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll remove it then.-- bullet proof  3:16 04:38, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your acting like a baby over something the size of a pen tip compared to the rest of Wikipedia.-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 04:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NPA in addition to WP:VOTE. JPG-GR 04:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I can appreciate the irony of posting a personal attakck with an edit summary of "not a personal attack," but that doesn't change much. JPG-GR 04:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * NEWS FLASH: I said you ACTED like a baby. I didn't call you a baby. Which is in no way a personal attack. I done here before I get blocked.-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 04:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:NPA doesn't just cover name-calling. JPG-GR 04:45, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The template has been removed. Now JPG-GR quit antagonizing Hornetman 16, and Hornetman16‎ just drop it.-- bullet proof  3:16 04:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No antagonizing going on. As long as he opts to discuss on my Talk Page, I shall discuss. JPG-GR 04:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The template has been removed. The discussion will continue. Now I suggest the two of you drop this argument immediately.-- bullet proof  3:16 04:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You have to work against me why?-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 04:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not working against you, and I apologize if you feel that way. I am working toward the improvement of Wikipedia, a goal I feel most editors share. JPG-GR 04:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I did. Truce?-- Ho rn et ma n16 (talk) 04:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

TV schedule afds
Thanks for the help removing the tags! NawlinWiki 04:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad to help. :) JPG-GR 04:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Question
Currently, User:67.170.184.73 is changing all the FMQ, AMQ, TVQ, AML and FML links from lowercase to uppercase. What I don't understand is why. Right now, as is in lowercase, they all work just fine. Actually, the AML and FML links sometimes only work in lowercase (unless they have fixed that problem). Is this something I should revert or leave as is? - NeutralHomer  T:C 04:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This guy is a little neurotic. I mentioned to him that the templates are technically all capital, with lowercase redirects, so that he'd stop making edits merely to make them lowercase. Now he's doing the exact opposite. In the end, there's no difference either way. JPG-GR 04:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie...I didn't know, I always go the lowercase route because it makes the AML and FML links work better. As long as they work that is cool with me.  Thanks!  Take Care... NeutralHomer  T:C 05:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Vacation, perhaps?
Dude...take a vacation, ya need one. You are making all us other editors look bad by totally kicking butt. But...if a vacation isn't in order, perhaps this will do.......

Guam-radio-station-stub
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WRC-TV Talk Page
I thought the rule was if it was blatant goofiness/vandalism, it was instantly deleted even if it was on a talk page. I could be wrong though. - NeutralHomer  T:C 06:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the talk pages are exempt from that rule, but am not 100% sure. JPG-GR 15:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:WHSB-FM.jpg)
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Re: RfC
Thanks for letting me know, I appericate it. I did post a comment and an idea that popped into my head while I was typing. I think the idea would be pretty neat if it could be used. Take Care... NeutralHomer T:C 02:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

radio-locator is king?
Your radio content is great, maybe you can help me and others understand how to be acceptable as a more official external source. I'm the founder of radiotime.com relatively new to wikipedia, but struggling to understand if links to content we organize are appropriate. We have more content and more traffic than other radio directory sites. But when I've personally experimented adding a few links, they usually get pulled. Yet our competitor radio-locator has a widely-used template.Radiobill 22:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Radio Locator has more technical details for the stations themselves, and is therefore more encyclopedic. Your website appears to focus more on the station programming, which doesn't really fit on WP (see WP:NOT). Sorry. JPG-GR 08:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, the FCC entry is also often an external link which is great. One argument is RL is usually redundant information already in the FCC entry, or WP entry, or on the stations site.  Our focus is non-technical listening and programming information like affiliations, sports games, etc suitable for a typical listener.  As for WP:NOT, we are not trying to include EPG or directory info, but external links where we add unique value.  WP data is complimentary and we plan to begin linking back to the WP entry.  I'm not challenging, just a friendly case for serving the community betterRadiobill 15:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Quick Question
Hope your weekend is going well. I was wondering if you could take a look at WMUG-LP. The page was originally named WMUG and I renamed it WMUG-LP....but I want to make sure it is correct and shouldn't be WMUG (LP) or something like that. If you could check it and get back to me I would appericate it. Take Care.... NeutralHomer T:C 18:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks correct to me. You'll never see a (LP) in an article title, because all low-power stations have the -LP suffix by nature. Thanks. JPG-GR 18:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) Take Care and Enjoy Your Weekend... NeutralHomer  T:C 19:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Reverted edits to WISP
Just wanted to point out that there's very little point to having a disambiguation page with only two entries. That's generally better handled with a otheruses template alone, and seems to be frowned upon by the MoS. Moot point in this case, though, as the second link was a redlink. Rv'd, MrZaius  talk  20:01, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

WOJL/WOJL-FM
This one has me slightly perplexed. There are seperate pages for the same station, WOJL (made by me) and WOJL-FM (made by someone else). I was going to take the information from one and move it to the other, but....where does it go under? :S Sorry to ask ya back-to-back questions, but I am not sure where to move this one. Take Care.... NeutralHomer T:C 02:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like everything is already all set. JPG-GR 06:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I moved it to the WOJL page, but I didn't know if it should be under WOJL-FM for the proper title. - NeutralHomer  T:C 07:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * According to the FCC database, WOJL is the appropriate location.
 * Perfect :) That's what I wanted to make sure of.  Thanks for your help.  Take Care and Have a Good Week... NeutralHomer  T:C 09:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

CyGamZ
Why do you keep deleting CyGamZ information? Do you work for a competitor or something? I seriously question your motives. On a side note, I am not a National Amusements employee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeRshGo (talk • contribs)
 * A google search for "cygamz" yields 2,340 ghits, many of which are myspace or forum related. A google search for "pershgo" produced this site, which has the following statement

We are currently working with National Amusements on their CyGamZ project which is a Cyber Cafe in Showcase Cinema Ann Arbor.
 * As your username is quite unique, I find it highly likely that you are associated with that site, and therefore the cygamz operation. As Wikipedia is not a forum for advertising and this area does not seem notable, it has been removed. JPG-GR 06:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we have been helping them run tournaments and events for some time now. But I am not a National Amusements employee, and it is my knowledge of CyGamZ that led me to add their information on the National Amusements page. Since when does knowing about something keep you from creating a page about it? I have also worked for the Geek Squad which is why I edited the page for that some time ago. Now if I for example created a PeRshGo Industries, LLC. page I could see a problem given Wikipedia's guidelines. But that is not the case here. Should Wikipedia only be run by those who’s information only comes from speculation? I find it interesting that a large company like National Amusements has decided to invest in the LAN center business, and I guess the Wall Street Journal found it interesting enough as well or I wouldn’t have had a reference for it. I just don’t see the problem. Now if I used Wikipedia to advertise upcoming events, I could see a problem, and you see that’s why I question your motives, because you seem to want to erase the existence of CyGamZ. I have had edits on Wikipedia bulldozed over before and not cared but for some odd reason this one got to me just because it was not only properly documented but followed the most basic broadcasting rules, accuracy, clarity, and brevity. I said what it was, without opinion, and left it at that. PeRshGo 07:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I still cite WP:NN and WP:COI. One article allegedly about cygamz (I use "allegedly", as the source requires an account to read anything possibly relating to cygamz) is hardly enough to prove notability. As far as I can tell from the google search, this business has one location and one location only. More importantly, by freely admitting you are assisting National Amusements with running their events, you are clearly setting yourself up for a WP:COI violation. I would argue your desire to include this information in Wikipedia is a little too WP:ILIKEIT, which is not a valid reason for inclusion. JPG-GR 05:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It's the Wall Street Journal. Type in the title of the article and I am certian someone out there has it cached. Your issue seems to be one of WP:IDONTCARE PeRshGo 03:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * To counter WP:NN and WP:COI with WP:IDONTCARE is the very definition of WP:ILIKEIT. I have no desire nor intention to continuing to argue the same issues with you when you fail/refuse to see the larger picture, beyond your personal bias for the company/employer. JPG-GR 04:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * After taking the time time to find a copied version on the web, I further question the notability of this gaming venture -- the article lists "at least half-a-dozen gaming arenas," yet I am unable to find any locations other than the one in Ann Arbor, MI. If this new venture takes off, it may then be notable, but at this point it's no more notable than a newly implemented refreshment stand. JPG-GR 05:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Florida Radio station edits
For WJLF, WHIJ, WHGN and WAQV, why did you remove the default sort tag and label each station with individual sorts, for only one category? The default sorts accomplished the same thing, and ensured that all current and future categories use the same sorting data. It's not a big thing, but since they are on my watch list, I noted the change. Horologium t-c 23:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The main reason was so that the stub templates would sort properly in their overall categories. The secondary reason being that in larger categories (such as by genre), the initial letter is necessary to prevent Kxxx stations and Wxxx stations from intermingling. JPG-GR 06:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

WOMC
What edit war? He is adding things that are against the rules and some just pure cruft, so it was reverted. Schedules are not allowed per WP:NOT, the rest was cruft and crap. I resent being told that I am in "edit war" when I'm not and "we ask that you do not continue this needless battle" like you have a split personality there with ya. I don't like it that I have to go into other people's "areas of watch" and fix problems and vandalism they are supposed to watch for and I sure as hell don't like it when my reversions are considered an "edit war".

You went through MedCab so that we could at least not be snapping at each other every 5 second, this isn't the way to keep us from snapping back and forth again. - NeutralHomer  T:C 18:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I never used the phrase "edit war," which you could easily check if you hadn't blanked part of your Talk page (dif) . I used the phrase "revert war," which is the proper term, as you have reverted edits to that page 6 times in the last 15 days.
 * Moreover, currently established precedent prohibits station schedules (per WP:NOT), but has yet to prohibit listings of on-air personalities. If you spent more time looking at articles and assuming good faith before hitting the revert button, you might have noticed this.
 * You don't need to venture "into other people's 'areas of watch' and fix problems and vandalism they are supposed to watch for" as this case didn't require it, any of the 6 times you reverted. JPG-GR 19:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No, you used "edit war"....direct quote: "Edit warring between an IP and User:Neutralhomer over WP:NOT." OK, so you added an "-ing" to it, still, you said "edit war".
 * I used edit war in the request for protection, yes. Revert warring is a form of edit warring.
 * Now you are just spliting hairs....you said what you said, admit it, move on.
 * Secondly, do you notice any schedules are any radio or TV pages? You shouldn't, as they are in violation of WP:NOT.  Direct quote: "For example, an article on a radio station generally should not list upcoming events, current promotions, phone numbers, current schedules, etc., although mention of major events, promotions or historically significant programme lists and schedules may be acceptable."  The only way you could add a schedule is if like Wolfman Jack worked at the station or if it was historic out of a newspaper.  The schedule added to the WOMC page wasn't historic in any way.
 * You are not listening. There is a difference between schedules and radio station personalities. What was being added did not violate WP:NOT, at least according to current precedents.
 * It's a schedule, plain and simple. If it has times and names, it is a schedule and that is what was there and that was in violation.
 * Third, I am assumed good faith by not reporting the person to WP:AIV or warning him period. Mostly because he switched from IP to IP, but also because most don't know the WP:NOT rule.
 * You are being lazy by not posting warnings. How is this user supposed to know he's doing something wrong if it's not explained to him?
 * After I warn a person once and they switch from IP to IP, I am not going to warn different IPs over and over and over and over. Not worth it.  I will just revert and save myself the headache.
 * Fourth, when vandalism is going on and the person watching that "area" isn't paying attention or isn't online, then I will give a hand. The same as I would hope you would do if someone vandalised WINC-FM.  But when someone is continously adding something that is against the rules, then yes, it does require my attention.
 * Wikipedia is not divided into pieces and monitored by section chiefs. While every editor has the ability to edit Wikipedia, the implication that I was negligent in not reverting this user's edits is insulting and preposterous.
 * Never said it was. But people who live in different parts of the country tend to watch the stations in that part of the country.  Like you watch the Detroit stations, I watch the VA/WV/MD/DC/Southern PA stations.  There isn't a "section chief", it is watched by people who have the knowledge of that station and live in that area.
 * Fifth, when you said that I was "edit warring", it was false. I was reverting vandalism that was against the rules....big difference.  So your request was false and wrong, hence letting Riana know that.  Since she has an extra person watching her talk page, even if she is busy, I will get my question answered.
 * You were revert warring. You reverted the page 6 times in a 15 day period, not once trying to explain your reasoning to the user or on the talk page. Many of your reverts are characteristic of a quick-trigger finger.
 * After explaining it once and having better things to do with my time, I seen no reason to explain it again. Revert, move on with life.
 * Finally, like I said earlier, if you want to prevent us snapping at each other every 5 seconds, perhaps you should assume a little good faith and not monitor my edits and protect pages that I am editing like I am 6. I have been apart of Wikipedia about as long as you have, so I think I know what I am doing. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 19:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't monitor your edits, as I have tried to get you to understand NUMEROUS times. I watch WOMC. In 15 days, I saw 6 reverts by a familiar editor, namely you. You may think you know what you are doing. I think you still have a lot to learn. JPG-GR 20:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't? Immediately after messaging me the second time, you edited the WTBZ page, a page out of Grafton, WV....a page made by me and a page that is right on the top of my contribs as a revert.  Seems a little fishy to me.  But that is neither here nor there, you and I both have alot to learn, but I think I know what I am doing when it comes to radio pages, TV pages, editing pages, reverting edits, reverting vandalism, and rules like WP:NOT.  You have alot of to learn when it comes to social skills and not taking everything so damned seriously. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 20:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Firstly, show me a dif where one of that editors edits added times to the article. Can't do it, huh? THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SCHEDULE. You are clearly not even looking at these articles before you revert them, which is a very bad sign. Secondly, you are assuming bad faith by assuming that the editor is changing IPs on purpose. Not all people have static IP addresses. By not attempting to contact said user via their talk page (or more easily, the WOMC talk page) you are not following WP:AGF. And, yes, I found WTBZ from your contribs as I was looking for evidence of you attempting to contact the user via their talk page, which you hadn't.
 * Also, don't accuse me of taking things "so damned seriously" when you clearly do the same thing, continuing to argue your point into oblivion without even taking the time to consider what I am saying. JPG-GR 21:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Um...., times? I think that would be those.  "Mornings" <a time...."Mid-days" <a time....  "The current lineup" <sounds like a schedule to me.


 * Me, assuming bad faith? All you have done with this ENTIRE post is assumed bad faith and you know what they say about assuming.


 * "looking for evidence" on the WTBZ page? I'm confused.  You were looking for evidence about WOMC on the WTBZ page?  What?


 * Actually, I am listening to what you are saying (typing), but since you are wrong on these points, yeah, I am going to respond back. You are taking things way too seriously and need to seriously chill out.  You are getting way too wound up over this article.  You are assuming bad faith by accusing me of an "edit war" that never happened.  Just chill dude.


 * As I used to say when I lived by the beach...."have a beer, surf a wave, come back and all will be copacetic" and I think you should. - NeutralHomer  T:C 23:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Your inability to quote evidence not withstanding, I'm not arguing my point anymore -- it's like I always say - "there's no point in arguing with a brick wall." Just know this: when the page protection expires, and the revert war continues, I will ask for page protection again. End of story. JPG-GR 08:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You know what, I've tried, and it's not worth it anymore -- I hereby ask that you never post on my talk page again. I, in turn, will show you the same courtesy. JPG-GR 08:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * (courtesy goodbye): That's fine. Many thanks for your help, for answering my questions no matter how stupid they were, and what you have taught me (and you have) to add to my radio infoboxes and pages, which have added and are being added to my current pages.  Take Care. -  NeutralHomer  T:C 21:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am
do whatever you want, at this point, I honestly just don't care. Between you, other users and other crap, I have already had two Vicodin today and am looking very forward to a third. - NeutralHomer  T:C 01:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
For your help on that page with the copyvio issues. I have a feeling that's going to need some serious watching, and probably repeated cleanup. Thanks for your support with that issue! Ariel ♥ Gold 04:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If there's one thing I do, it's watch all the Michigan radio station articles like a hawk. My thanks to you, as well, for your help. JPG-GR 04:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, excellent to know you'll have your eye on it, and I can leave it in your capable hands, as I truly know nothing about the station, and honestly was pretty offended by the images on the website it was pasted from. I'd prefer to never visit that site again, thank you very much, lol. Thanks again, Ariel ♥ Gold 04:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't say I'm overly familiar with the station myself, but Michigan radio in general seems to be my area of expertise lately. And, the website caught even myself off guard. That's why I keep my ears to the hot adult contemporary / top 40 areas and away from pure rock (and the associated websites). JPG-GR 04:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied on my talk page to your question [[Image:Face-wink.svg|25px]] Ariel ♥ Gold 05:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

WTF???
I made several changes to WBCK and you keep changing them back to reflect the WRONG information! First of all, WBXX is NOT a former call sign of WBCK because they are both STILL on the air! The changes included frequency changes and NOT Call sign transferals. You also insist on removing the designators from call signs when they are in many cases part of the call sign! -AM -FM -TV -HD are all proper designators. Perfect example: WBXX-TV and WBXX-FM are NOT the same station and are NOT affiliated with each other! Since you think you know everything there is to know about Michigan Radio and radio in general I'll quit wasting my time! It's no wonder there are so many shallow articles here on Wikipedia because idiots like you keep stripping peoples efforts to improve them, you instead replace or add erroneous information. Good Luck Mr. Know it all.. --Dp67 | QSO 20:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "-AM" is never part of an official callsign, please check the FCC database. Additionally, please find the callsign history at |this source. JPG-GR 20:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Coutesy Note
Just a coutesy note to let you know that I moved WLQM to WLQM (AM) as there is also a WLQM-FM. I will be making a disambig page posthaste. - NeutralHomer  T:C 18:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know...
Due to the lack of having anyone else to ask, I am asking you for a tad bit of help. I noticed a userbox with more information on it and incorporated the new fields into the userboxes I use. Problem is the "class" field is in italics with a ' at the beginning. No other fields are and I can't find any ' that I might have accidently put in. If you wouldn't mind, would you please take a look at my sandbox (where I have it setup at the moment) and see if you can't fix the little bugger. If not, I understand. Take Care and Have a Good Weekend... NeutralHomer T:C 21:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I just figured it out. Stupid me sometimes.  I appericate it if you were actually looking into for me.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  T:C 21:23, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem - would've taken a look, but wasn't around at the time. JPG-GR 22:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Radio Project page cleanup
Thanks for the rewording of the section on logo images on WP:WPRS. It makes better sense now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtphokie (talk • contribs) 00:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)