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The Signpost: 20 March 2023
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Thanks
Thanks for editing and publishing this latest edition. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)


 * jp×g 09:14, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * jp×g 09:14, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

AI generated article template documentation
Regarding your comment on Template:AI-generated/doc, I'd like to remind you of a few things.

WiktionariThrowaway (talk) 22:59, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) I see you've listed specific percentages (e.g. 92%) for estimations. However, OpenAI's own detector, which is linked, uses broad categories like "very unlikely", "unclear if it is", or "likely". I'm assuming you used writer.com's detector for those; from my own experimentation that's inferior to OpenAI's detector in accuracy.
 * 2) It's surprisingly easy to fool the detector through minor edits to the GPT output. The detector is also pretty much useless for non-prose text.
 * 3) From my own experimentation I've found that machine-translated content, regardless of whether written by human or GPT, tends to yield "unclear" on the detector, which I assume is probably intentional.
 * 4) GPT-4 is now a thing (albeit something you either have to buy yourself for $20 or acquire through Bing's waitlist), and since OpenAI's own detector is designed for GPT-3, GPT-4 output fools it, at least for the time being. I'm pretty sure I've heard of GPT-4 having baked-in flag tokens in order to make future detection easier, though.
 * 5) In addition to "in conclusion...", some other common dead giveaways include "as X, ...", "it is important...", and "firstly, secondly, thirdly..." (especially in a Wikipedia context). These are ubiquitous on GPT-3, but can also be found on GPT-4. However, it's very easy for people to realize this and revise the output to obfuscate these...

Tech News: 2023-12
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Last week, some users experienced issues loading image thumbnails. This was due to incorrectly cached images.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-gift.svg A link to the user's page will appear on  — some user scripts which previously added this link may cause conflicts. This feature request was voted #17 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * Octicons-gift.svg The edit window will be resizable and larger by default. This feature request was voted #80 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * There will be a new option for Administrators when they are unblocking a user, to add the unblocked user’s user page to their watchlist. This will work both via and via the API.

Meetings
 * You can join the next meeting with the Wikipedia mobile apps teams. During the meeting, we will discuss the current features and future roadmap. The meeting will be on 24 March at 17:00 (UTC). See details and how to join.

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-13
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The AbuseFilter condition limit was increased from 1000 to 2000.
 * Some Global AbuseFilter actions will no longer apply to local projects.
 * Desktop users are now able to subscribe to talk pages by clicking on the link in the  menu. If you subscribe to a talk page, you receive notifications when new topics are started on that talk page. This is separate from putting the page on your watchlist or subscribing to a single discussion.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * You will be able to choose visual diffs on all history pages at the Wiktionaries and Wikipedias.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The legacy Mobile Content Service is going away in July 2023. Developers are encouraged to switch to Parsoid or another API before then to ensure service continuity.

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Super Sema
I made a draft for Draft:Super Sema. How do I submit it for review? 97.80.178.124 (talk) 00:51, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Wet fish in your snout
But seriously, The Signpost draft is ready for final review. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 April 2023
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Tech News: 2023-14
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The system for automatically creating categories for the Babel extension has had several important changes and fixes. One of them allows you to insert templates for automatic category descriptions on creation, allowing you to categorize the new categories.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Some older Web browsers will stop being able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can try to upgrade to a newer version.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The deprecated  module has been removed. This module could be used by gadgets and user scripts, to create an artificial delay in how JavaScript responds to a hover event. Gadgets and user scripts should now use jQuery  or  instead. Examples can be found in the migration guide.
 * Some of the links in will be re-arranged. There will be a clearer separation between links that relate to all users, and links related to your own user account.
 * You will be able to hide the Reply button in archived discussion pages with a new  magic word. There will also be a new  CSS class for hiding the Reply button in individual sections on a page.

Future changes
 * The Vega software that creates data visualizations in pages, such as graphs, will be upgraded to the newest version in the future. Graphs that still use the very old version 1.5 syntax may stop working properly. Most existing uses have been found and updated, but you can help to check, and to update any local documentation. Examples of how to find and fix these graphs are available.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:38, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :) jp×g 09:16, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

list of Joe Biden gaffes
your input at the deletion discussion was helpful. the reason for the awful name was that the media tends to dismiss these claims as "gaffes" which makes it harder to write the article, and had i titled it "veracity of statements made by Joe Biden", it would've been summarily deleted as an attack page. but your criticism is helpful and welcome. i have incorporated some material into one of the two articles suggested at the deletion discussion, and i have requested a userfying of the deleted material so more could be incorporated into them. again thanks for your input. :) .usarnamechoice (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh, politics articles are the worst, aren't they? Maybe some day I will again develop the taste for pain required to participate in that stuff... happy editing, preferably in a saner zone. jp×g 09:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-15
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg In the visual editor, it is now possible to edit captions of images in galleries without opening the gallery dialog. This feature request was voted #61 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * Octicons-gift.svg You can now receive notifications when another user edits your user page. See the "" option in your Preferences. This feature request was voted #3 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * There was a problem with all types of CentralNotice banners still being shown to logged-in users even if they had turned off specific banner types. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Feedback requests from the Feedback Request Service
Your feedback is requested &#32;at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard&#32; on a "Wikipedia policies and guidelines" request for comment, and &#32;at Template talk:Infobox Indian state or territory&#32; on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment. Thank you for helping out! You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name. Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) &#124; Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. &#124; Sent at 11:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Publishing this weekend
Hi, just checking in to see if you plan to be the publisher for The Signpost on Sunday, or do you want me to be on standby to do it? ☆ Bri (talk) 15:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Last night my wallet fell out of my pocket (despite this having never happened in the couple decades I have carried a wallet on the daily), then on the way home a pop can busted in my laptop, attempting to murder both my (newly repaired) laptop and DSLR. Luckily, my laptop is old enough that I could actually take it apart and clean the components -- it boots and runs now -- but the screen is somewhat injured and needs some time for the liquid to evaporate.
 * I think I will be able to publish, but given the current streak of luck, I may be struck by a meteorite and killed at any moment, so it would probably be wise for someone else to be present. Lol. jp×g 19:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems to be coming together nicely now. Several features are probably ready for marking "approved". ☆ Bri (talk) 22:04, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry about your recent travel troubles. If you want to offload to me, I can publish after you do the final editing and approvals. I'll be at home to do it after 1800 Pacific Time on Sunday. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:32, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment
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Tech News: 2023-16
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Recent changes
 * You can now see nearby articles on a Kartographer map with the button for the new feature "". Six wikis have been testing this feature since October.
 * Octicons-gift.svg The Special:GlobalWatchlist page now has links for "" for each entry. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * At Wikimedia Commons, some thumbnails have not been getting replaced correctly after a new version of the image is uploaded. This should be fixed later this week.
 * Octicons-tools.svg For the last few weeks, some external tools had inconsistent problems with logging-in with OAuth. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
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MediaWiki message delivery 01:52, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-17
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The date-selection menu on pages such as will now show year-ranges that are in the current and past decade, instead of the current and future decade. This feature request was voted #145 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * Due to security issues with the Graph extension, graphs have been disabled in all Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia Foundation teams are working to respond to these vulnerabilities.
 * For a few days, it was not possible to save some kinds of edits on the mobile version of a wiki. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on April 26. This is planned for 14:00 UTC.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Editing team plans an A/B test for a usability analysis of the Talk page project. The planned measurements are available. Your wiki may be invited to participate. Please suggest improvements to the measurement plan at the discussion page.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input until May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023 on Meta-wiki.

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

User:JPxG/current-switcher is broken
Hey buddy. Thanks for making User:JPxG/current-switcher. It appears to be broken. Visiting a contribs page such as this one gives 60 TypeErrors in the JavaScript console. Feel free to fix if and when you are able. I find this script useful. Thank you :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 06:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Still doing it? I can try and whip up a patch fi it's still an issue. jp×g 09:57, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @JPxG. Tried it just now. Was able to reproduce. There's 63 "TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'innerHTML')" and 3 "TypeError: allcount[asdf].getElementsByClassName is not a function". Let me know if you can't reproduce. Should be trivial to reproduce assuming it isn't skin-specific or something. – Novem Linguae (talk) 10:01, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I will keep it in mind for tomorrow when I need to pad out my contribs with a bunch of random stuff right before I transclude my RfA so nobody sees that I fixed a typo on Israel or whatever. jp×g 10:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hahaha :) – Novem Linguae (talk) 10:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 April 2023
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Tech News: 2023-18
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg The content attribution tools Who Wrote That?, XTools Authorship, and XTools Blame now support the French and Italian Wikipedias. More languages will be added in the near future. This is part of the #7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * The Video2commons tool has been updated. This fixed several bugs related to YouTube uploads.
 * The page has been redesigned on mobile web. The new design makes it easier to browse the different categories and settings at low screen widths. You can also now access the page via a link in the Settings menu in the mobile web sidebar.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Muhammad Saeed Sayf
Hi sources are not that easy to find because Google does not search well in Arabic, and many Arab people have similar or identical names. I first searched by going to the ar.wiki article and using the subject’s name as a search term. Then I saw that his most famous work was “شارع الشاحنات” so searched again with that plus his name to find a bit more. Et voilà! Mccapra (talk) 05:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, the old transwiki trick. Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of that. Good looking out -- I thought it was a goner for sure. :) jp×g 05:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Don't do this again
It's incredible I have to say this to someone with 90000 edits here, but spamming pings to people who oppose your viewpoint is the apex of obnoxiousness. Knock it off. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 13:44, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I totally get why you might be annoyed, and I'm sorry if my pinging came across as obnoxious. But let me explain: earlier in the discussion, someone had "pinged all participants" and then only included a dozen or so, and a couple people were concerned that editors were being selectively pinged in a way that influenced the discussion's outcome. So I decided to ping everyone at the whole AfD, even though it ended up being like 70 people. I just wanted to make sure nobody was left out and avoid canvassing concerns. I understand that it might have been stupid, but I hope you can see where I was coming from. I didn't mean to be a pain in the ass, and I apologize if that's what happened. I'll try to be more mindful in the future. jp×g 04:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 8 May 2023
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Tech News: 2023-19
<section begin="technews-2023-W19"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-gift.svg Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
 * Octicons-gift.svg When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as, , and , can now be replaced.
 * Preloading text to new pages/sections now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. Here is an example at the that uses <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">.

Problems
 * Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph . The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg Until now, all new OAuth apps went through manual review. Starting this week, apps using identification-only or basic authorizations will not require review.

Future changes
 * During the next year, MediaWiki will stop using IP addresses to identify logged-out users, and will start automatically assigning unique temporary usernames. Read more at IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates. You can join the discussion about the format of the temporary usernames.
 * There will be an A/B test on 10 Wikipedias where the Vector 2022 skin is the default skin. Half of logged-in desktop users will see an interface where the different parts of the page are more clearly separated. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg  will be removed from the MediaWiki core. This will affect some user scripts. Many lines with   can be commented out.   can be used to keep things working like they are now. You can read more and read about how to find broken scripts.

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Feedback request: Wikipedia style and naming request for comment
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Tech News: 2023-20
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Problems
 * Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.

Future changes
 * There is a recently formed team at the Wikimedia Foundation which will be focusing on experimenting with new tools. Currently they are building a prototype ChatGPT plugin that allows information generated by ChatGPT to be properly attributed to the Wikimedia projects.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadget and userscript developers should replace <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> library will be removed in ~1 month, and staff developers will run a script to replace any remaining uses at that time.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Med Newsletter - Issue 21
Ajpolino (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Signpost header image
Template:Signpost header image has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 21:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)