User talk:JPxG/Archive27

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JPxG, just a friendly reminder that your review of this DYK nomination was responded to the middle of last month, and it would be great to get the nomination moving again. If you don't plan on returning, please let me know and I'll request a new reviewer. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 17:33, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 * JPxG, as reviewer, it's up to you to put the appropriate icon on the review to indicate whether it is approved or needs work. Without that, the nomination can't proceed. (The bot needs the icon to move the review to the approved page once it is approved, promoters can't promote without the icon, etc.) Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Replying

 * If you read this page Don't restore removed comments you'll find that users are not supposed to revert talk pages.
 * The I received was partial invalid "And the same comment for Cascade school (and this applies to faculty members too)" If you read  WikiProject Schools/Article advice you see that adding head teacher/principal is permitted and adding the founder is encouraged.
 * As for the dates you pointed to last year, I use higher quality sources now such as the The New York Times, AP NEWS, Los Angeles Times, The Guardian,

1keyhole (talk) 19:22, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Humo(u)r
Like the concept! Just a thought -- you might want to work in WP:DIFFUSINGCONFLICT somewhere. EEng 02:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 57
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Quick note on Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Discord link
Thanks for your edits to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Discord link.

Might you explain what else is broken? Because I also updated all the templates and pages transcluding this as far as I was aware, and checked nothing else broke. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 23:06, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The reason I edited it was because Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom was busted: I didn't see that you had made edits to the other templates that transcluded this one. I suppose we might as well undo my edit and just fix the newsroom link. jp×g 23:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, your edit confused me: the template was named "Discord link" and not "Discord invite code". If you're going to change it to not be a Discord link, that's fine (I think formatting it with the interwiki table is probably better practice) but I would at appreciate having this noted in the documentation (or better yet make it a parameter switch) — interwiki table syntax is extremely esoteric and the whole point of making the template was to make including the link easier. Currently, to actually link to the thing, you have to type out all of discord:invite/, so at a minimum that should be in the documentation. jp×g 23:17, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletions
Hello, JPxG,

I'm deleting these pages you have tagged for speedy deletion despite the lack of a valid CSD criteria. But since you have done so much work regarding the Signpost's pages and system of archiving, I'm trusting that you know what you are doing. But, in the future, it would be preferable if you could use one of our handy dandy CSD criteria codes. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I hope to be done with this soon. I have been using G6 since they're technical deletions that don't involve actual content: should I be more precise and file them as something else? Of all the tasks I have done on Wikipedia, this has maybe given me the most headache...at one point somebody declined them all and demanded I start individual MfDs for each of the few hundred pages, which I spent a couple months waiting to complete. I am beginning to see why nobody has ever bothered to fix these problems in the last twenty years! jp×g 01:33, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking through CSD in a little more detail, it is hard to classify these. I guess they could be G8 (since they are mostly deprecated templates, sub-templates of deprecated tempaltes, and broken redirects to said deprecated templates). Would that be better? jp×g 01:38, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think G6 is the closest that comes to the page deletions you have tagged thus far which I've found to be uncontroversial and one of G6 rationales is "housekeeping". But I'm not sure about Wikipedia Signpost/2009-07-27/Board elections/Milos Rancic, it's the only one that has caused me pause. There is really no good reason to delete this page that I can think of even though it didn't serve any useful purpose. This one might have to go to WP:MFD although the regular crew there can be very fickle, I've found. They are a little unpredictable in their proposed outcomes but the discussions there tend to be unanimous Keeps or Deletes, very little relisting is required. I just left this page alone and perhaps another admin reviewing it will come to a different conclusion. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Progress
Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist is at 6750 jp×g 21:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Signpost quote template
Hi there! This first quote was intended to be a pull quote, but the template change has moved it inline with the text. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:29, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for helping fix these templates when I was messing around with them -- it's strenuous but hopefully things are better off now. jp×g 23:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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Boa
It looks like Template:Goa is a similar relic? Thanks! Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 04:32, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Cobwebs/Apocrypha?
Is this meant to be permanent name change for the series? Because it breaks the series name... Cobwebs was also a fun name... &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:17, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Right now I'm looking through my long-ass text file of words I find in books. So far I've got "apocrypha" -- which isn't exactly true in this case because we do know the authorship of all these pieces very well -- but also "muniments", "quondam", "incunabula" &c. GPT suggests "residuum". I think all of these are pretty goofy though so I am hoping to come up with something better lol. Another thing I thought of a few weeks ago, which is kind of silly, is "webcobs", you know, since they're on the web and they are kind of the old dregs of our draftspace. Who knows. What do you think? jp×g 21:09, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think cobwebs is a fine name and pretty quirky on its own, and don't really see the point of changing it. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Still against Apocrypha. If it needs a name change, I suggest delaying that to the next issue. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:25, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * should be fixed here. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:08, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I was trying to diagnose this for the last few minutes but couldn't figure out why it was broken if the issue template had the right dates. I looked in the rev history again to see what was up and it turned out Headbomb had fixed it. Okay, I know what the problem is -- there was an outdated template location in SPS.js which caused the wrong damn page to get updated. I thought I had fixed this. jp×g 04:10, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

"Forever and ever and ever" Amen - Favonian
I'm taking over from 80.43.82.69 as Favonian has cut her talk page access. I'm copying her comments here and adding some of my own. The 17:13, 4 August 2023 comment goes under TheDragonFire300's comment of 10:12, 4 August in the ANI discussion headed "Future Perfect at Sunrise." The remainder goes at the end. Please take this opportunity, as if you don't we will only be back at ANI (or perhaps ArbCom) next time FP@S riles somebody.

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 * Wow!  Perform an advanced search in "Wikipedia" and "Wikipedia talk" against "Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents Future Perfect at Sunrise".   There are 943 hits.   No. 6 is Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2.   No. 7 is Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1025 of December, 2019,the last serious attempt to deal with this problem.   Skimming the edit summaries, I see things like


 * long-term abuse (12:26, 11 July 2022) removing a complaint that an administrator had inserted the words Testicle, Scrotum, Edible testicle and Test icle" into articles

and checking the content, things like baiting a Bulgarian editor by describing Bulgaria as "a banana republic." I'll come back to this as this page is under attack.@SouthernResidentOrca: 80.43.82.69 (talk) 17:13, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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Some more importunate edit summaries:


 * Can we please stop the idiotic ethnic coatracking here? (22:24, 10 January 2020)
 * more absurd ethnic WP:COATRACK removed (09:48, 11 January 2020)
 * copy edit and tone-down the source doesn't allege tracing it to the Turkish government (09:25, 30 January 2020).  What the source actually refers to is "a state-backed cyber espionage operation."
 * keep your tedious politicizing out (11:07, 17 March 2020)
 * What are you talking about? (11:58, 16 September 2021)
 * Really, people, the pettiness of it all is breathtaking (18:50, 4 November 2021)
 * Seriously, people, start writing proper English before you edit-war over adjectives (13:35, 16 May 2020)
 * how often do you need to be told? (17:09, 19 December 2021)
 * talk pages are for talking to a user, not about a user.  If you don't have anything constructive to say, stay out. (18:57, 19 December 2021)
 * complete nonsense (21:31, 10 March 2022)
 * no patience (15:49, 19 March 2022)
 * nonsense (20:06, 27 August 2022)
 * irrelevant rubbish (20:07, 27 August 2022)
 * rv, obnoxious POV coat-racking and quite irrelevant here (09:39, 22 November 2022)
 * how often do you need to be told (16:25, 25 February 2023)
 * rv, that was still a posting by banned user VXfC, don't reinstate (09:33, 29 May 2023)  Contravenes WP:ADMINACCT and WP:BRV.   Zip Orlando claims I am this person but likewise offers no evidence.
 * stop pestering us (05:42, 22 June 2023)

Still looking.

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Please copy the above over to the ANI discussion. I can't because I've been blocked by the administrator who added the dick words to the articles.@SouthernResidentOrca: 80.43.82.69 (talk) 18:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * rv, that was a banned user posting (08:28, 10 June 2021)  .   Pinging also JPxG as this concerns you.   Material for the Signpost here?
 * rm, banned pest (17:42, 18 July 2021)  It's actually a graphic description of Future Perfect's modus operandi .   Pinging also The Rambling Man as this concerns you.@JPxG: @SouthernResidentOrca: @The Rambling Man: 80.43.82.69 (talk) 18:59, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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Still looking.80.43.82.69 (talk) 19:02, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * rm garbage (08:40, 28 April 2020)
 * wouldn't it be nice if people who don't know any English just crept back under the rock they came from, rather than butchering our articles. (13:15, 16 May 2020)
 * when will some people learn... (08:17, 26 May 2020)
 * and North Macedonia, when the latter changed its name to North Macedonia"?! How absurd can bad writing get? (20:49, 4 June 2020)
 * rm, banned user (14:02, 9 June 2020) FP@S apparently took umbrage at the quote, which was:

Lakehouse will not tolerate acts of unlawful discrimination, derogatory, racist or sexist remarks, innuendoes [sic] or racial and sexual harassment towards anyone. If proven, the individual will be permanently removed from site.

A question: Couldn't find a mention of "you are allowed to reinstate them only if you are prepared to take full ownership of them - i.e. be treated as if every single word of the posted material had been written originally by you" at WP:BANREVERT, rather I found "this does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a banned editor." Did I get it mistaken? The stress killed him weeks later. FP@S has blood on his hands. After a gruelling six-month trial a defendant is acquitted by the jury. The judge says "You are free to go." Then just as the defendant reaches the door of the court the judge says "Stop! I've changed my mind. Life imprisonment! Take her down!
 * out (08:37, 16 June 2020)
 * Let's wrap this so we can go watch Royal Ascot: banned (12:52, 19 June 2020) Unhat the comment to reveal all. This was 2 minutes after he described an editor as an "idiot" on his talk page. Now, where's my copy of the Terms of Use?
 * rv, naive nonsense (15:08, 17 July 2020)
 * actually, sources are contradictory about whether he was actually killed that way or whether he was regularly strangled after he put up a fight during which somebody caught him by his balls. Unnecessary anyway. (07:18, 9 August 2020) No comment.
 * seriously (15:41, 28 August 2020) When FP@S uses this word it's a threat to terrorise an editor (in this case Aditya) by abusing his admin powers. Read the diff to discover the comments which he so assiduously revision deleted over and over again later in the year.
 * Protected User talk:Aditya Kabir (21:12, 2 September 2020) Aditya had told him:
 * What are you talking about? (16:21, 8 September 2020)
 * groan, not again (10:57, 18 September 2020)
 * (11:48, 10 October 2020) Removing a defence submission from a case page. The submission read (in part):
 * banned user (13:22, 19 November 2020) The quote is highly relevant.
 * seriously, back off, Bugs. If you're too lazy to engage with the OP's question, just shut the f**k up and stop parading your ignorance. Removing disruptive posting. (22:26, 16 January 2021) [No asterisks in original].
 * who keeps bringing this nonsense back in? (08:50, 6 March 2021)

Distribution:    92.8.149.85 (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * what jp×g 02:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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99997
Ohh yeah baby jp×g 20:49, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * So close jp×g 22:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

You just made your hundred thousandth edit; thank you for an amazing contribution!
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GET_(posting)&oldid=1169403731

For great justice lolz. jp×g 22:13, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Brilliant, well done. Legoktm (talk) 22:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Not really right
Sorry, but the edits you made to Friction are not really right. Not only were they in the Dry friction section, so only solids are relevant (not bodies), but there can be torque and in stiction there is no relative motion.Ldm1954 (talk) 02:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, that stuff may have been better fit to another section; feel free to move it if it doesn't belong there. jp×g 02:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you misunderstood. Your addition has three issues:
 * It states that friction only occurs when there is motion.
 * It states that the force is always tangential
 * There is already a definition in the prior sentence
 * There is stiction, i.e. static friction. Also, the force can be more complex with textured surfaces, different types of asperities so IMHO being vague is better.
 * Unfortunately I don't have ready access to the book cited to know if it has a more general definition, i.e. the part exerted is only for motion. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:06, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

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