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Hi JPxG, I emailed you about a proposal for a periodical in The Signpost about Userboxes

"Wikipedia:LITTLEORPHAN" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Talk:Rupert_Sheldrake. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * It seems like these silly arguments about press are something of a regular occurrence. A couple years ago there was consensus at the talk page for that template to clarify that its purpose was to contextualize talk page discussions and not to formally endorse the websites as "news outlets", but I fear I may have been too subtle in what I actually wrote in the documentation, since the arguments continued nonetheless... I guess maybe it is condign to make it a little clearer. jp×g🗯️ 19:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've been in this kind of discussion since at least 2018, Talk:Stanley_Kubrick/Archive_10, it's something of a habit. Sometimes they go one way, sometimes the other. I guess I'll ask for closure of the current one at some point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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Hi JPxG, While i understand your view for the revert, your edit summary: A single sentence of close paraphrasing isn't a "nuke and revdel" issue is clearly wrong, as it it was three sentences that were word-for-word copied, not close paraphrased. Nobody ( talk ) 15:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Revision deletion is, fundamentally, something which breaches the open-source credo of Wikipedia (it takes a page history from a matter of "here are the facts, decide for yourself, you the general public are our proofreader and editor" to a matter of "here are the facts an administrator decided you should have access to"). I see it as a necessary evil, that should only be done on mainspace articles in rare circumstances when absolutely necessary (i.e. when legally required).
 * There's only so many ways you can represent direct factual statements, without resorting to deliberately contorted phrasings. For example, if the source says this:
 * After the book was published, Jones vociferously denied the embezzlement allegations, and said that 'the whole thing was a misunderstanding'.
 * We have a few ways of writing this information directly into an article.
 * The reason I say that it's not copyvio to repeat the sentence directly is because we've got the source right there and it would be extremely easy to give attribution by adding "Philip Sneedmeyer reported that" and a couple quotation marks. It's certainly bad form to copy a sentence fragment unmodified, and probably it is plagiarism, and at any rate it doesn't comply with Wikipedia policies and should be fixed, but I don't really think it is a legal issue that there existed some version of a Wikipedia article which quoted five sequential words directly from a source. jp×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 19:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I get why you didn't RevDel it. And the part about rewriting it instead of nuking it makes sense too (I followed this policy which just says removing, which can probably also be interpreted as rewriting). But I believe for word-for-word copied sentences it doesn't matter if they added the source, it's still a Copyright violation. I agree it's probably not a legal issue, but still a policy violation. Nobody  ( talk ) 05:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The reason I say that it's not copyvio to repeat the sentence directly is because we've got the source right there and it would be extremely easy to give attribution by adding "Philip Sneedmeyer reported that" and a couple quotation marks. It's certainly bad form to copy a sentence fragment unmodified, and probably it is plagiarism, and at any rate it doesn't comply with Wikipedia policies and should be fixed, but I don't really think it is a legal issue that there existed some version of a Wikipedia article which quoted five sequential words directly from a source. <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 19:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I get why you didn't RevDel it. And the part about rewriting it instead of nuking it makes sense too (I followed this policy which just says removing, which can probably also be interpreted as rewriting). But I believe for word-for-word copied sentences it doesn't matter if they added the source, it's still a Copyright violation. I agree it's probably not a legal issue, but still a policy violation. Nobody  ( talk ) 05:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The reason I say that it's not copyvio to repeat the sentence directly is because we've got the source right there and it would be extremely easy to give attribution by adding "Philip Sneedmeyer reported that" and a couple quotation marks. It's certainly bad form to copy a sentence fragment unmodified, and probably it is plagiarism, and at any rate it doesn't comply with Wikipedia policies and should be fixed, but I don't really think it is a legal issue that there existed some version of a Wikipedia article which quoted five sequential words directly from a source. <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b>×<b style="color: #029D74">g</b>🗯️</b> 19:04, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I get why you didn't RevDel it. And the part about rewriting it instead of nuking it makes sense too (I followed this policy which just says removing, which can probably also be interpreted as rewriting). But I believe for word-for-word copied sentences it doesn't matter if they added the source, it's still a Copyright violation. I agree it's probably not a legal issue, but still a policy violation. Nobody  ( talk ) 05:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I get why you didn't RevDel it. And the part about rewriting it instead of nuking it makes sense too (I followed this policy which just says removing, which can probably also be interpreted as rewriting). But I believe for word-for-word copied sentences it doesn't matter if they added the source, it's still a Copyright violation. I agree it's probably not a legal issue, but still a policy violation. Nobody  ( talk ) 05:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 62
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Lichen mites
Your Association of Arborists skit really made me chuckle. I always appreciate a good bit of the on-the-nose humour, so thanks for injecting it there. Iskandar323 (talk) 04:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Hiya!
I sent you an email asking a question about Signpost, I wonder if you got it! (Thought I'd ping here in case it went missing!) Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

1997 World Games
Hey, could you unRevDel the first edit I made to this page? The revision posted by me had the copyright violation removed. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
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RamzyM (WMF) 23:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

About two topics we might cover on the next Signpost issue
Hello! I don't know if you already saw this, but I've left a short note over at the Newsroom's talk page about two stories we were suggested to cover: namely, the death of Yuri Lushchai, and the situation with the Joint Statement on Palestine.

I just wanted to know what you think about them, since I feel insecure about how we should cover them (especially in the second case)...

Anyway, see you soon! Oltrepier (talk) 14:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)