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DYK for 2021 Moroccan general election
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Very sad. But very true. jp×g 03:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

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New message from Narutolovehinata5
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 * Thanks for the heads-up. Responding now. jp×g 03:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

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Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment
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Maps
Hi JPxG,

Sorry for the delay in responding to this -- I have been enjoying the discussion but life is hectic now that the semester is in full swing. Perhaps our substantive differences are not so large, and have more to do with emphasis. I agree with you that typing out what a map says is ok, but I think this category of information is extremely limited in almost all cases. Regarding WP:MAPCITE specifically (and thanks for finding it and pointing it out, it was an interesting read): the relevant section "Sources" has four subsections. The first, "Usage", seems mistitled and basically meaningless. Everything in the second section seems fine. I accept the suggestion in the section "Relevance" that it would be ok to use a map to source the altitude of a geographic feature. However, the proposal that a map be used as a source for the relative position of two locations makes me less comfortable, not because a map is unlikely to be correct but because if a map is the only source for such information then it seems to be introducing an issue of due weight, in practice probably to some end that would violate WP:SYNTH. I disagree with only one sentence in the section "Original research": It would be acceptable to say "The freeway first appeared on the department of transportation's map in 1951" or "The freeway was constructed by 1951" (assuming the source has a reputation for accuracy in its map updates) in the above case. The first proposed sentence strikes me as an unambiguous violation of WP:SYNTH; the second one is less bad, but again raises an issue of due weight.

What do you think?

All the best, JBL (talk) 23:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. I think that, on this stuff, we mostly agree. My main contention on the noticeboard was that it ought to be permissible to do this within certain bounds; obviously, like the freeway example, it's possible to do SYNTH from map information, but this is the same as SYNTH applied to any other type of source and there doesn't seem to be any unique badness endemic to maps. jp×g 22:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

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DeepFuckingValue
Good work on DeepFuckingValue. I was wondering, ever thought of nominating it at WP:DYK? It certainly would make for a good hook for the front page in my opinion. Clearly it looks like both discussions are going to be closed in favour of the article but it is OK to nominate whilst the discussion are ongoing.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 08:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I feel like the article's content is nowhere near stable enough to pass review right now; on the other hand, it wouldn't cost me anything to just nom it anyway. jp×g 22:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Keith Gill (investor)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I think you missed one.
Browns Island (San Joaquin County) still doesn't have a pic.&#32;- Sumanuil (talk) 04:26, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello 07:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)07:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)Mattiematical (talk)
 * sup mattie Vaticidalprophet (talk) 07:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * hello vat of cider Mattiematical (talk) 07:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello everyone. It's nice to see you all here. Benjamin (talk) 07:49, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for GPT-2
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Speedy deletion nomination of I Like the Stock


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Speedy deletion nomination of I Like The Stock


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Your GA nomination of Bradford Island
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Solar eclipse of June 10, 2021
No, it will start in Cadada and end in Russia. (see animation below) But the rest is correct. =) --Brateevsky (talk to me ) 09:47, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh no. I will have to fix this later. Thanks for pointing it out!!!!!!! jp×g 20:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Censor bars incident
Hi, I'm the person who uses the IP that edited the Censor bars page. I'd like to clarify that the edits made to said page were not me, as my IP address is shared. I don't know who it was, but I'm actually using a school computer, and I don't know if that's a variable in the equation. Anyway, it wasn't me.
 * Hi, then create an account. Firestar464 (talk) 03:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * certainly appears to have an account, and just hasn't gotten the hang of comment-signing yet. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It is what it is. That kind of thing happens all the time, and it's not really a big deal. It isn't held against you if somebody from your school/library/ISP vandalizes articles -- I wish you well in editing! jp×g 06:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bradford Island
The article Bradford Island you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bradford Island for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 08:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * grats dude Vaticidalprophet (talk) 08:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Geography86
Regarding Mount Madi-ac, I have reverted your tag (alongside my CSD tag) and draftified the article instead. In this example, I changed the criteria from A3 to A1. Guess what? Iridescent called this inappropriate, and in later declines, they call this mistagging. And regarding the draftification, I have draftified the rest of their articles and removed G5 tags, as they are unfortunately improper and could have been reverted instead of getting what I want. CSD criteria is very strict and I, unfortunately, had to force WP:AGF and draftify all of their articles because of this. However you are right to report them to the ANI - if they don't stop creating articles in the mainspace, then they have to be blocked indefinitely.  Mario Jump  83!  06:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * An A1 is absolutely an inappropriate tag here, for the record, and it'd take a fairly deletionist admin to delete it under A3 as well. A1 is an empty page, while A3 would be something like "a river" in full with no rough indication of where it might even be. Did Iri decline the G5s or did you pre-emptively do so? Those are all entirely separate criteria. (That said, G5 is inappropriate if there's no indication it's actually circumventing a block/ban.) Vaticidalprophet (talk) 06:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * They declined them.  Mario Jump  83!  06:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! jp×g 18:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Appropriate rollback usage?
Hello JPxG. I have reverted (here) your rollback of some careful editing to the Neuroticism page. Maybe your attention was raised by the blanking of an inappropriate/OT section? (I do understand that this was a gf mistake :-) But please note - in retrospect at least - that the edit summaries I left explained the rationale for the various changes (including a link to a pertinent talk-page thread). While I am not familiar with the details of rollback, my general understanding is that WP:ROLLBACKUSE is based on the risk of overhasty reversions, such as this one. Best wishes, 86.186.120.141 (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Adding: I've just seen this, and frankly am losing my patience. What POV? You seem to be using rollback coupled with a warning template to dispute content. OK, I understand that it's gf... but please reflect on these concerns. And if you still have concerns of your own regarding the gf-status of those edits to a psychology page, you might like to contact User:Markworthen, an experienced PSY editor (and I will happily stand corrected on any concerns regarding content / npov :-). 86.186.120.141 (talk) 11:48, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * When I got up and read this on my phone, the diff looked wrong, so I am now looking at it on my computer, and the diff still looks wrong. I installed a bunch of scripts yesterday, which I think caused me to do something very stupid: what seems to have happened here was that I literally read the diff backwards and thought that you were changing In the study of psychology [...] to One of the Big Five [...], which would have been a terrible edit ruining a perfectly neutral sentence to POV-pushing a psychometric model (when in reality you were removing the garbage). For this, I apologize. The removal of the section still vexes me, but given that the rest of your edits were of such high quality, I will AGF on it. Have a good one! jp×g 18:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that JPxG. Obviously, anyone can make a mistake, and we humans are all intrinsically error-prone. But regarding the appropriate use of rollback (ie, per WP:ROLLBACKUSE) please bear in mind that this *might* have been the initial interaction of a potential new WP editor... you can understand where I'm coming from on this. RE your concern about the section deletion, if you can find some appropriate mention in the paywalled cited source of the actual subject of the page (neuroticism), then maybe we could discuss. As it was, it appeared to me to be, at best, conceptual *prehistory* (per Eysenck perhaps?), and apparently (unless framed quite differently, with appropriately weighting and sourcing) OT/pov. Bst, 86.186.120.141 (talk) 20:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Adding: RE any section removal concerns, pls see Talk:Neuroticism. Cheers, 86.161.190.100 (talk) 17:14, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-11
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Your GA nomination of Gateway Generating Station
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