User talk:JSFarman

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Again, welcome! Shearonink (talk) 21:10, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Carianne Marshall moved to draftspace
Draftifying my own article, not ready

Carianne Marshall moved to draftspace
Draftifying my own article, not ready

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Sam's Club update
Hi JSFarman, in the past you had helped with some changes related to the CEO of Walmart International on the Walmart article I had requested. I made some similar requests on the Sam's Club Talk page and I was hoping you might take a look. I'd really appreciate it! Cheers TJ at Walmart (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2024
--Lajmmoore (talk 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Kristi Noem
Keep up the good work! Lighthumormonger (talk) 16:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Lighthumormonger! Same to you. We both seem to embrace a less-is-more attitude, even if it's difficult when it comes to Kristi Noem, because there is SO MUCH MORE. JSFarman (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

You got that right. I guess our readers have to connect a few of the dots on their own from time to time, darn it. But nobody ever said we editors couldn't put the dots a little closer to one another in the way we write, and Noem just happens to make it pretty easy for us to do that! Lighthumormonger (talk) 17:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)


 * There is some great collaborative writing going on in that article. See: "She dispatched the unfortunate ruminant in two shots.".  I am in awe of that sentence. JSFarman (talk) 06:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Question regarding 'Draft:Nicole Sahin'
Hi @JSFarman, thank you for being the first to review this article that I wrote: Draft:Nicole Sahin. I am new to writing on this platform and have been grateful for the help I have received. I have made substantial edits in line with your comments (and others in the Teahouse), and I'm now hoping that the article meets the criteria for publishing. Could you let me know, please? Cheers, Kate KWriteReturn (talk) 10:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Kate and thanks for the message. The article still needs work. She meets notability but there is content that reads like promotion.  I will respond in more detail tomorrow.  Julie  JSFarman (talk) 07:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Julie. I appreciate your help. Cheers, Kate KWriteReturn (talk) 07:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi again, Kate, I just finished an edit that narrows the scope of the article; it should be about Sahan rather than the company she founded. I removed some redundancies, headings, and hypey phrasing,  such as "world's first", consolidated the content, and deleted most of the  primary sources, including the press release and LinkedIn, which is as primary as a source can be.  I also removed the advert tag.
 * It still needs stronger citations and a more thorough copy edit. Let's get it done, though; female CEOs are way too rare.  JSFarman (talk) 17:13, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This has been really helpful, Julie; thank you. I found some better citations and also conducted a copy edit. Please let me know what you think. Cheers, Kate. KWriteReturn (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Kate. I edited to reflect some sources that I found, and removed the less substantial awards. But it is almost impossible to find independent coverage due to the barrage of press releases. As much as I wish it were not the case, I don't think she yet meets the notability criteria as notability is defined by Wikipedia.  JSFarman (talk) 05:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Julie. Wow, notability is tough trial to pass! I know what you mean about the barrage of press releases; unfortunately, I feel it makes her look less notable than she is. Do you think there is anything else we could use to get her over the line? What about her contribution at the World Economic Forum (WEF) where she spoke about the impact and ethics of generative AI? Here is her profile on the WEF's website, here is a snippet of her contribution, here is the full video. Would any of these suffice? KWriteReturn (talk) 02:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Kate. To establish notability, you need independent sources. I did an online and offline search. The only truly solid reference I found was from the Independent in Dublin.  I tried. JSFarman (talk) 05:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Julie. I'll do one last dig tomorrow to see if I can find anything else. I recall seeing an article by Forbes magazine where they referred to her as the founder of the EOR platform, so I'll see if I can find it again. Cheers, Kate KWriteReturn (talk) 12:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Julie, I found the Forbes article I referred to above, which I believe to be classified as an independent source (it was also used here). It refers to Sahin as one of the founders of the EOR hiring concept. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/12/04/12-billion-hr-startup-deel-changed-global-hiring-now-it-wants-to-change-regulators-minds/?sh=4681d77b599b Does it help us get her over the line? KWriteReturn (talk) 01:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Kate, Forbes is a valid source if an article is written by a staffer or editor.  However, the coverage of Nicole Sahin in this article is trivial. It's two sentences. To establish notability, you need extensive coverage via independent, reliable sources.
 * You can learn all about this by reading the the general notability guideline.
 * Another reviewer might feel differently; feel free to resubmit the article. That said, a better idea would be to get familiar with the inclusion criteria, and hold off until Nicole Sahin meets it. JSFarman (talk) 03:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red June 2024
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Just so you are aware
See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Shewasafairy regarding MeltPees. Even if they are not a UPE/sock, they have created a mess by copy/pasting other editor's drafts into mainspace, often under a different title. That's a first for me. I have seen many times editors do that with their own creations but not someone else's. Odd. Btw, what I really wanted !vote in that AfD was simply No but likely closers would not consider that a strong argument being (rightfully) sticklers for PAGs and all. S0091 (talk) 17:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hiya S0091 and thanks. I am not surprised.  I have been participating in the NPP backlog drive so I have been paying much more attention than I usually do to new articles/new editors and I have to say it has been exchausting/disheartening (mildly put).  I just hit 50 patrols/ reviews and I think I am going to stop for the sake of my mental health.  Sigh.  JSFarman (talk) 18:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Same for me with AfC. I am to the point that the thought of Wikipedia opening it's own paid editing shop has crossed my mind which is a horrible thought.  I don't mind COI like with The Central or even some declared paid editors and then there's the other buckets of well-meaning but the topic will never be an article and so on.  Sorry, I am breeding negativity so on another note, what do think about Draft:Joan Javits Zeeman?  I did some work a while back finding sources but I am still on the fence.  S0091 (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think Joan Javits Zeeman is notable, but it's gonna be a slog to demonstrate. (I just added a couple of references, and I'll look for more.  It will give me something to do other than patrolling/sticking forks in my eyes.)
 * I have much more to say on all of the above but I'm gonna say it later because otherwise those forks are gonna start tempting me again. JSFarman (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi . The sock who did me in, Annika59, was blocked. Just read their talk page and you will totally get it. JSFarman (talk) 06:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Lol, "We can get compunsation for making Wikipedia pages?". Looking at (now) Draft:Arcadia School, there's at least a couple more.  One is blocked because of their Username and I'll leave at note for Kuru about .  He blocked one the socks listed in the glock request the other day.  S0091 (talk) 15:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Good morning S0091. That cracked me up too. I can't believe I spent time adding refs and copyediting and trying to help them with two articles.  JSFarman (talk) 16:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, I know. I've done it too.  Infuriating to spend your time on what ends up being UPE.  There have been very rare UPE occasions though where the editor did not know the TOU and that they needed to declare.  Once informed were happy to do so and they had written a decent article so I helped it along.  S0091 (talk) 17:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Pull a thread and they all tumble out. S0091 (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow. Hi. Good morning.  JSFarman (talk) 17:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

June 8, 2024
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A barnstar for you!
Thanks, and thanks for writing it, KjjjKjjj! I knew the name but I didn't know anything else about them. It was great to come across the article. I'm going to do some more research -- so much more to learn. JSFarman (talk) 15:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * No worries! I found this out while looking at the main page of WikiProject Appalachia, you can help out the draft since it got drafted due to a lack of sources.
 * Best Wishes, KjjjKjjj (talk) 15:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

June 2

 * i think i made a mitk, i dont ahve time right now to edit or work or even answer more emails and messages. i'd like tio rmeove my myself untill i gte past my currect persoanl issues how can  remove myself? pleae advise, i am leagll blind and even emial has become difficult since OL RDESIGNED ISTS INTERFACE, I AHD TO REMOVE MOR THAN HALF OF MY CONTACTS EBECAUSE ITS SLOW3ED DOWN TO DIAL UP LEVELS 2603:8001:9600:DCA6:9071:1DD:4F2E:2D24 (talk) 02:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's ok to make mistakes around here. Another editor will fix it if it needs fixing. You can just stop editing and come back if and when you want. Julie JSFarman (talk) 03:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

22:05:59, 4 October 2017 review of submission by Rpsavory
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Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice
Hi Theknine2 suggest that not to use "Label" and "Region" columns via updated table. Your comments would be appreciated. However there's two other users opposed over updated table, so I suggested that change "Label" to "Distributor" column via original table. Regards. 2001:D08:2950:A7E9:17DE:9924:CDD7:5313 (talk) 04:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Abigail Bassett
Hi JSF, Bassett is an LA based journalist so you might be familiar with her or her work. It's been nominated for deletion and is a mess for various reasons, one being it was created by a now blocked UPE sock, so likely will be deleted. She wisely created an account here,, after she was contacted via email as part of a scam (she did not pay for the article). You can see her comments at the AfD and our discussion on her talk page. I have provided her guidance on she can create a new article via AfC but I think she'll need help. If it is deleted, would be you interested/have capacity to help? No worries if not and I have not checked for sources but she's won a couple Emmy's so likely notable. S0091 (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hiya S0091! I do not know her.  This is exciting news for me.  I can work on her article and I am totally up for helping. (Can it be draftified?) I will comment at AfD.  Thank you for asking, thanks for helping to save an article about a female journalist (and thanks for guiding her -- the scamming is out of control lately).  Julie JSFarman (talk) 19:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * According to her and others in the AfD it is such bad shape I think WP:TNT is warranted and to be honest I'd hate to give credit to UPE which what moving it draft would do. S0091 (talk) 19:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. I always forget about WP:TNT.  It is a terrible article. JSFarman (talk) 19:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The sock puppet comments on the AfD are bananas/so ballsy. I'm aghast. JSFarman (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Crazy isn't it? I left a note on Abigail's talk page and pinged you there.  Thanks for helping out!  I gone ahead and started a a draft and will look for some sources.  S0091 (talk) 15:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)