User talk:JSFarman/Archive 12

Pings
I know what you mean about pings and the yellow bar of super cringe. I'm usually like oh shit what have I done, lol. As for the draft, glad to know you are hyped about it. Sometimes I hesitate about pinging folks who I think can help because I don't want anyone to feel obligated. S0091 (talk) 18:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * S0091! I love that you went so far above and beyond when you reviewed the drafts. It is so unusual, and it's what we need to be doing to keep new editors from fleeing!  Thank you for reminding me of that. I feel the same way about pinging other editors.  Worse though is pinging another editor and being ignored. It's really discouraging.
 * So good to (kinda) meet you! Julie  JSFarman (talk) 19:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * My view on reviewing has changed over time and my overall editing has changed after I discovered I had access to the WP Library (a Wikipedia life changer!). I don't always help out drafts...sometimes I'm lazy but do on occasion especially for historical topics where it's clear the creator likely does not have access to better sources.  There's actually at least a handful or so editors who are willing to do so: valereee for food topics, BeanieFan11 for sports, jengod and PigeonChichenFish for various, KylieTastic usually for FloridaArmy's African American politician drafts, WIR for women/under-represented groups and so on.  When DGG was still alive he focused on academics, even going through the painful exercise of reviewing abandoned drafts coming up for G13 (miss him).  I came across you and your fantastic User page sometime ago while reviewing and apparently tucked you away in my head.  When I came across the The Central, I connected the two.
 * Eh...it doesn't bother if I ping someone and they don't respond, nor if I leave a note on a WikiProject talk page that gets no traction. This is a volunteer effort and it should be mostly be enjoyable.  If no one is into it, disappointing but that's fine.   Also, I know I have been pinged and completely forgot because I was focused on something else at the time.  Anyway, great to "wiki" meet you as well.  S0091 (talk) 19:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * S0091! When I looked at your talk page, I was reminded of how difficult reviewing is. Way too many disgruntled people, way too many messages. Huge props to you for responding to so many (unkind) comments with kindness. I still review aticles now and then, and I patrol from time to time, but not to the extent that I used to. (I find patroling much more difficult than reviewing.)
 * I am very psyched that you registered my existence! (One of the highlights of my experiences here was DGG asking me to weigh in on a music-related AfD; it was probably because he was tired of me asking him about academics. I miss him too.) I am familiar with all of the editors you mentioned, of course, but I didn't know jengod at all until she came to an editathon in December. She is brilliant. And she edits entirely on her cell.
 * And yes! The Wikipedia Library is a game changer.  I think I edited for about five years without knowing it existed.  Now I use it all the time.
 * I added the Central to our articles list for the edit-a-thon on Sunday. I hope we can find references. If we do, you will hear me celebrating from wherever you are! Julie  JSFarman (talk) 03:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I will very likely be at the Los Angeles meetup
I said I'd leave a message on your talk page, as it is very much likely I will be there this Saturday. I have never been at a Wikipedia meetup before, so I'm excited for this! ShticktatorTal (talk) 04:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Fantastic!!! Last meetup we had was a blast. I am always a little harried at these things (because I am hella disorganized) but I am so psyched to meet you, ShticktatorTal.  I feel like we are kindred spirits in at least a handful of ways!  JSFarman (talk) 05:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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Women in Red March 2024
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J.M.I. Recordings
I published this article recently - Draft:J.M.I. Recordings - and it was speedy deleted. I'm wondering if you might be able to review it this time around before I publish it again? Record labels seems a little tricky to have published sources where it is a primary subject, because most of the articles that discuss the label are discussing particular albums or artists the label has produced.. Hexatekin (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm curious why you wrote this draft. The subject is not notable, which is typical of book publishers, record labels, and other publishers of material.  Chris Troutman  ( talk )  17:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Quoting from User:Jessiemay1984 on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Record Labels, "it is impossible to divorce a record label's press coverage from its artists, nor would it make sense to do so." The notability guidelines for record labels have not been fully agreed upon, although there are many in progress discussions, see: Wikipedia talk:Notability (music)/Archive 21. Labels are usually covered in press about artists, but the way the press works doesn't necessarily make them non-notable. Hexatekin (talk) 18:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I had asked the question of why you wrote the draft, which went unanswered. Wikipedia consensus has turned against subject-specific notability guidelines like WP:PORNBIO and WP:SOLDIER so conversations along those lines accomplish nothing. I thought you came here asking for guidance, not argument.  Chris Troutman  ( talk )  18:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Hexatekin and hello Chris!
 * As Chris wrote, you should adhere to the notability criteria for companies. And -- as you noted -- labels don't get a lot of coverage. Particularly jazz labels (and artists).
 * If the article was speedily deleted, it means (in all likelihood) that an editor assessed the subject as lacking notability and an administrator agreed with their assessment and deleted the article.  The subject of an article has to meet the inclusion criteria:  independent, reliable sources that provide extensive coverage specifically via independent, reliable sources. Based on the references used, the company doesn't yet meet notability. (I will happily review any article of yours if you ping me, but in this case, I would decline it.)
 * And Chris! Hexatekin came to an edit-a-thon in LA two weeks ago. They do not have a COI.  JSFarman (talk) 19:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

2024 Angel City Edit-a-thon
Hi! I notice you RSVP'd to my event this weekend. Would you be willing to lead a short tutorial for participants who are new to Wikipedia? I've done some editing sporadically over the years but would love some support from a real Wikipedian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/Angel_City_FC_WoSo_Edit-a-thon_2024 Kabest (talk) 22:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Kabest, I was just about to remove my name from the RSVP list. I have a prosthodontist appt that was just scheduled for exactly the same time as the edit-a-thon. (This procedure wraps up three years of dental hell!.)  I'm so sorry!  I would love to help.


 * I will reach out to some other folks to see if anyone else is available. There are also some powerpoint presentations (so uncool) floating around that will walk people through the editing process if you are up for leading the conversation. (Gotta figure out where they're stored.)  JSFarman (talk) 23:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Great news! Blervis is experienced and will help! He will get in touch.  Woo hoo!!JSFarman (talk) 00:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yay! Blervis, are you able to lead an introduction to editing? If you can commit to coming, I also need to send you a couple forms the library asks all volunteers to fill out... Let me know what the best way to get those to you is. Kabest (talk) 17:25, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes! I have a slide deck already and everything! Sent you a message on FB. Blervis (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Just here to say WOO HOO one more time! Thanks Blervis and Kabest.  So glad this is happening. JSFarman (talk) 18:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice
Hi @JSFarman. Take a look for which one you prefer at the "Release history" table: "Distributor", "Licensee", "Marketer" or "Promoter". 2001:D08:2910:4C95:17C3:914F:D77C:7595 (talk) 04:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * 2001:D08:2910:4C95:17C3:914F:D77C:7595 (talk), Hello! Sorry for the delayed response, and thanks for asking.  I tried to respond to the conversation several times but I was so perplexed by the idea of using "marketer" or "promoter" that I lost my ability to be rational.  I will attempt it again today.  It is so odd.  JSFarman (talk) 15:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

The Smubbs & You
Hi! Thank you for looking over and commenting on my AfC submission for The Smubbs. As of right now, I'm a little bit confused on how to satisfy your request — as far as I can tell, every multi-paged source has an attached page number leading to the mention of the article's subject. Instead, is there some way to have the source's url link to a specific page on a pdf?

Hope I'm doing this right! Chroikey (talk) 00:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Chroikey (talk), I am so sorry! I didn't see the page numbers in the cites. I was getting lost in the very old Billboard and Record World articles.   I will go over the draft again tonight.  JSFarman (talk) 01:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Gerda Arendt, I can't believe it's been ten years. I probably say this every year, but finding your message on my talk page in 2013 -- surrounded otherwise by notices about orphaned unfree files and disambiguation errors -- was one of the reasons I kept editing.   It was the first time I felt like I could be part of Wikipedia.  Thank you for the encouragement and for everything you do.  JSFarman (talk) 00:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, just thank you! You have perhaps no idea how much encouragement such comments mean for me. 10, however is the last time - I didn't want to make the sapphires any larger ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)