User talk:JSpudeman/archive03

Hello
There's been a stay of execution. :) I'll be sticking around for a bit. Yeah as for calling me a girl, I have no idea. I thought I'd made it clear on my page but now I just added the line "I am male". But that probably still won't fix it. They see "kitty" and assume female. Why I don't know. *shrug* Btw, the "This page is too long" thing is just a warning. I've seen talk pages over 200K. I usually archive around 70K...don't think I'm there yet. Take care. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 16:23, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * WikiProject Medicine. There you go. :) And it looks like it's a very active Wikiproject. Some of them aren't but that one is. I'd post your concerns on the talk page and go from there. They'll give you some input or lead you to the right place to go. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 16:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hello!
Hello, Spum, it's nice to meet you. I'm always happy to see other health-care workers and friends contributing to Wikipedia. I see you've been around for a while, but if you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, you depending on what your areas of interest are, you may find WikiProject Preclinical Medicine, Clinical medicine, Medicine, or the Medicine Collaboration of the Week interesting. Good luck with your training! &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 19:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I wonder, too, if you'd considered removing the information about scientology from your user page. While I am not particularly a fan of scientology myself, I'm not certain that this user box will have its desired effect, and some would consider it to be in poor taste. Perhaps you'd consider writing about why you don't like it on your user page instead. Just a thought! &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 19:22, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

business under the guise of a religion
Categories/templates/userboxes/etc that say, "I am against X," where "X" is not related to the task making Wikipedia.....well, I just do not understand how these help the project. In fact, they seem to damage the project by distracting Wikipedians from work on the encyclopedia. --JWSchmidt 21:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * do user pages distract from work on the encyclopedia? I'm very interested in the health of the community of editors who are constructing Wikipedia. I think that user pages can play a useful role in allowing Wikipedians to express their thoughts and concerns. This can be healthy in that it allows us all to participate in a process by which we can think critically about issues and express our views and it provides a mechanism by which the community members have a chance to better understand each other. "Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia" and "Wikipedian categories are intended to help Wikipedians with similar broad interests to congregate and converse" need to be in balance. In my case, I might declare my "broad interest" in biology and willingness to help develop Wikipedia articles related to science. I have specific interests such as concern about attempts to insert specific religious ideas into public school science classes, but I do not think it would be constructive to have a category called "Wikipedians against creationism". There has to be cooperation between scientists and creationists to make good Wikipedia articles about creationism and topics like evolution. Such cooperation is easier if an atmosphere of attack and animosity is not created within Wikipedia. --JWSchmidt 22:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: tables lining up on Main Page Redesign Draft
I'm not sure exactly what element you are talking about. I think the bottoms of the columns line up. Do they line up on your browser?

If you are referring to the second headings ("On this day" and "Did you know"), it wasn't clear in your post. I'm not sure how to make those line up, but I can work on it, if that is what you were referring to. I've updated the news items, and the second-headings currently do not line-up. Take a look. And thank you for the feedback and words of encouragement. Go for it! 22:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, how's this?
User:Go for it!/Workshop/Main Page Redesign Draft 6 --Go for it! 22:47, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Heyyyyyyy
.... thanks for the Fonzies! Hope your weekend was all chrome and whitewalls. BTW, as a dietician, what do you think of Weight Watchers? Katefan0(scribble)/ mrp 08:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Let's get busy
Hello there spum, it's me, your other User ;-) How's tricks my friend? Sforzando 11:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Expand
FYI...expansion requests go on the talk page. See Requests for expansion and Template_messages/Talk_namespace. I've made this mistake a number of times. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 14:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Need your expertise!
Hi, i recently made a wikiNews football portal here and i was wondering if you'd be able to use your design magic and make it look ever more sexier? thanks ever so much! The magical Spum-dandy 12:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd be glad to take a look. BTW, I noticed on your football portal at wikinews that you've used a background on there. What a coincidence! I need the help of someone who knows how to work with backgrounds on Wikipedia pages. See next message. --Go for it! 14:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

How do you create and use backgrounds in Wikipedia?
 Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.  In this English version, started in 2001, we are currently working on Special:Statistics articles.

 Art | Culture | Geography | Health | History | People | Philosophy | Science | Society | Technology  Almanac &middot; Categories &middot; Glossaries &middot; Lists &middot; Overviews &middot; Portals &middot; Search &middot; Questions &middot; Site news &middot; Index

I was wondering if you knew how to:
 * 1) Fade the puzzle globe so that it can be placed in the background.
 * 2) Place the puzzle globe behind the 4 lines of text of the header.
 * 3) Adjust the fading, in case its symbols interfere with the letters of the header.
 * 4) Anchor the background, so that it is always behind the header.

This is part of the Main Page Redesign effort, which is now in an open editing session to prepare the next draft for the new voting round which is coming up this Saturday (Jan 21). Check it out!

Any help/guidance you can provide on the background design issue presented above would be most appreciated. --Go for it! 14:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I used an external stylesheet
Pretty simple really. I just used Portal:Football/football.css, then used a DIV class, so that then it would link to the actual stylesheet. You can do it on your own userpage as well :-) Gotta get an admin to protect it ;-) The magical Spum-dandy 15:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Spum, I just wanted to let you know that I like what you've done with football.css. It looks great. --&mdash;Viriditas | Talk 09:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I followed your instructions exactly and copied the code from Portal:football and Portal:football/football.css to User:Go for it! and User:Go for it!/Go for it!.css, and it didn't work. Which means I must not have understood your directions. How do you get the program to recognize the .css file and use it for rendering the page? --Go for it! 19:18, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Lord Voldemort
That was part of the problem. If it were about something concrete or real, then maybe a basis could be formed based on sources. I'm not criticising the article (which, for the most part, is extremely good), just this one sentence that seems highly speculative at best. There are a lot of bad guys in children's literature, and there's no objective way of telling which is more powerful/evil/seductive/etc. This means that the only resource we have to fall back on are notable sources, such as book review sites. My only concern is that it's using one of the so-called weasel words, which, while not bad in itself, isn't backed up by any kind of sources or references. Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 15:47, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Would you mind proofreading something for me?
I'm thinking about requesting adminship, and have written a draft of my request. I would appreciate it if you would proofread it for me, and let me know what you think on its talk page. Thank you. Sincerely, --Go for it! 23:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Username change
Your request has been fulfilled. Regards &mdash; Dan | talk 00:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Portal redesign
There seems to be general agreement among the participants of WikiProject Usability that after the main page makeover is complete, we will move on to help with portal design. However, we will most likely be taking a top-down approach; we will start with the portals that are listed in the (new)main page's portal section. You're welcome to join, if you like. It's an open community. Kevin Baastalk 22:24, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Healthy eating
I know the talk page has been quiet for a couple months, but I'm still concerned about this page, and based on your comments I believe you are too. I agree with you that it should be merged into Healthy diet, and I'm also concerned about this page because I feel it has a serious NPOV problem, particularly in the Toxins section. How do you think we should go about fixing this page? Thanks in advance for your help! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 06:38, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Moving pages to wikisource
Basically, what you want to do is to use what we call Transwiki. Basically, you want to create the article in wikisource as Transwiki:X with X being the article name (though if it's more appropriate, you can make the name more specific). And then add it to this page using the format listed. Since you aren't moving an entire article, In that list, I would mark the article as the name and then in what you removed. Otherwise, someone might delete the whole article and you don't want that. That should be all you have to do. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 14:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

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Say
Did you get the stuff moved to Wikisource ok? I never heard back from ya. If not, let me know if you have any questions. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 12:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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Chobits — sexual intercourse
In the manga, Freya specifically explains to Hideki that Chi can not have sex, because her reset switch is, well, in her vagina, to be explicit. If Hideki were to make love to Chi, she would be reset, losing all of her memories and reverting to a blank-slate. Normal persocoms can have sex, and in fact in the manga Hideki's boss says, not so subtly, that he uses his for this purpose. ("She makes a good lap-top, if you know what I mean!")PiccoloNamek 18:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Even in the anime, her reset button is never actually touched, because doing so would have resulted in a reset. During the two previous times where somebody came close, she punished them with her shock wave. Remember when Hideki pressed her button for the first time, it made a loud "Clunk" sound. That never happened during the other incidendts. Interestingly, in the anime, after Hideki says that he loves Chi, she has some kind of spasm and sets off her own switch. (You can clearly hear the "clunk" sound.) Perhaps after she finds the person just for her, some kind of parameter is changed, or perhaps after that person is found the switch needs to be pressed to begin the program. But that is just speculation and has no place on Wikipedia.PiccoloNamek 09:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Mentor
Are you willing to be the active mentor for user:JarlaxleArtemis? Linuxbeak has indicated he is too busy with other matters, and Cool Cat removed himself from the case. JarlaxleArtemis has been causing problems, and has been extremely sluggish about completing his requirements. Without an active mentor he will have to be blocked. -23:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It's easy to be a cop in a town where everyone obeys the law. ;) (though for some reason that doesn't keep edit wars away from The Andy Griffith Show.) -Will Beback 10:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Body Mass Index
Well, thank you for your thanks over the Body Mass Index article. My wife sometimes sends thank you cards to people for sending her thank you cards but I think that is going too far! Thincat 13:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

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Notice
Community Portal controversy: The Community Portal was recently reverted to a version that appeared months ago. Therefore, I've called for a vote to restore to the Community Portal the version that had developed here up until that reversion. There are three drafts competing for the privilege, each representing entirely different approaches, including the current revert version. To show your support for which design should be displayed as the Community Portal, VOTE HERE. Sincerely, --Go for it! 18:14, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Source for image
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You still over there, man?
Haven't heard from you in ages. Still with us? :) --Woohookitty(meow) 08:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, where have you been? I noticed your attempt to bring Wikipedia's Discussion pages into a bulletin-style format and I thought it was great. First I had seen that anyone did anything about it, as opposed to just talk. Any hope of reviving that effort? -Mhsia 03:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back. I hope you and your family are doing well. It looks like you've been missed. I'm looking forward to working with you again. At some point, it would be a good idea to add charts, graphs, and tables to the nutrition articles, or perhaps create a separate page on statistical data. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 22:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 22:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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Obedience (human behavior)
Hello!

I noticed your comments about my edits to Obedience (human behavior), so I though I had better explain my edits. Please note that I did not merely revert the previous editor's contributions: instead, I copyedited them and then edited and integrated them with the previous content: see the edit history. I then expanded the article further.

I think my main objection to the previous form of the article was that almost all of it was devoted to a single topic, the Milgram experiment, which is already dealt with in a much longer and better written article, and devoted very little of the article to any other discussion of obediance outside the context of the Milgram experiment.

On the other hand, you actually did revert my edits in their entirety, and in the process deleting all of the new material added. In the process, you restored every single typo and grammatical error in the original text.

As just one example, the original contains the sentence


 * The milgram was one of the first experiments used to look into the power, which authority figures exude, as well as the extent of the orders participants would go to due to these influences.

This is, by any standards, a terrible piece of writing. What is "the milgram"? Is it Stanley Milgram, or his experiment? Why the misplaced commas? Do authority figures literally exude power? What does "the extent of the orders participants would go to due to these influences" mean? Does it mean that the participants went to the orders -- possibly to pick them up in person? How great was their extent? And so forth.

Now, I replaced this by the sentence


 * The Milgram experiment was one of the first experiments used to look into the power of authority figures as well as the length which participants would go to due to these influences.

I believe that this has the meaning intended by the writer of the previous sentence, and is at least in reasonably grammatical English, although it could be made considerably better -- for example, "study" would have been better than "look into".

By the way, I should apologize for the intemperate tone of some of my edit comments -- rest assured, they represent only exasperation with the copyediting required, rather than being a symptom of religious mania, and are entirely non-denominational.

Please edit articles, rather than blindly reverting them. Where other editors excise material, why not add a cite when you restore it?

I will try to integrate the two sets of edits into a coherent whole, taking your comments into account, and see if I can produce a version that is acceptable to all. -- The Anome 23:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Please now see the current version of the article as of this comment, which is the result of over 20 step-by-step edits with attached edit comments in which I explain what I am doing at each step. I have carefully attempted to preserve the material you are concerned about, with one exception: I have replaced the very first sentence of the article with the first two sentences of the earlier version, since I think that's a better definition of "obedience". Yes, almost every part of the article has changed in some way, but the changes are carefully described in the edit comments, and consist mainly of merges and restructuring of the previous material with the addition of only the new material added later, and minor copyedits for grammar and spelling. -- The Anome 00:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I've done some final polishing, and have also included the Persaud quote and the cite you helpfully gave me. Now, if you have any objections to my edits, would you please characterize them on the talk page of the article and attempt to correct them by editing the article, rather than, for example, not really bothering to read through the changes at all to the point that you mistake them for a simple revert and describe the new version as "dog shite". -- The Anome 00:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Nutrition
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Thanks...
...for the prettyfying edits to WikiProject Chemistry :-) How did you come across it? I haven't seen you around before. --HappyCamper 18:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Of course! We actually had something like that in our WikiProject, but I think it died down a while ago. Might be good and resurrect that, but I'm willing to jump on board anywhere and make a few sustained edits to articles. --HappyCamper 18:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You know, that just warms my Wikipedian soul...I'm sure the others will be happy too! --HappyCamper 19:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, now, um...can you explain how to use the collaboration thingy? --HappyCamper 01:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ordinary Boys.jpg
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Physical Chemistry
A good start in cleaning this up. Have you seen WikiProject Physical Chemistry and the related talk page? It is a fairly new WikiProject and the participants seem very busy. We need you help. --Bduke 21:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment on my talk page. Keep the discussion here. Moving from one page to the other loses the thread. "Chemical Physics" is an acceptable term. It could be defined as the chemistry that physicists do, or alternatively what might appear in the "Journal of Chemical Physics", which is published by the Americal Institute of Physics, as opposed to the "Journal of Physical Chemistry" which is published by the American Chemical Society. One the other hand I have had papers rejected by both but then accepted by the other and I would not have said one was more physics and the other more chemistry. On other matters on Physical Chemistry, I'll try to help but I'm tied up with family. The two notes are unclear - what book are they refering to? You need to update the text references to the latest edition. I have the latest Atkins so I'll fix that. --Bduke 22:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, i've read lots and lots of chemistry, but my major is physics, so i'm going to have to do some reading up on the history and other concepts. It's been some time since i've done some chemistry practically.. there's a lot of things i've done in organic chemistry and inorganic chemistry, but there's not much i've done in physical chemistry research so i'll be pretty much needing to get a brand new book on it, because the ones i have are the ones i bought whilst i was in university! Well, i'd be glad to contribute towards the physical chemistry wikiproject, just give me a few days to aquaint myself to the other "mid-concepts" of physical chemistry and link them to what i already know about thermodynamics. In terms of quantum mechanics and particulate theory.. i did years of it :-/.

Cheers :-) James S 22:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

CManifesto vandalism
Thanks for dealing with CManifesto (who apparently spammed the technical village pump, among other places). I was just putting the vandalism warning on his Talk Page, when that became an edit conflict. So, I'm guessing you redirected his Talk page to his User page, to prevent the meta-spam of people editting his talk page with vandalism warnings & such? Peter H. St.John, M.S. 19:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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Snell's law writing
Jay, I have the impression that you either still don't understand Snell's law, or you don't know how to construct intelligible English sentences and paragraphs. It seems you keep trying to work on the lead, but can't see how what you are doing changes the meaning, scrambles the structure, and introduces errors. Please be more cautious, or check your proposed changes with me or others on the talk page. Dicklyon 18:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)