User talk:J Milburn/archive19

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Discussion of logo's
Can you give some advice? Does the logo's in the article Surinaamse Padvindsters Raad have enough discussion, or is more needed? --Egel Reaction? 18:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Metal
Hi J Milburn. I've just reverted Template:WikiProject Metal back to an edit made to it on March 26 2008. The following edit, which you made,, broke it. It was brought to my attention on my talk page, and since I didn't know how to fix it, I reverted it. Could you take a look and see what needs doing to it that was supposed to have been done originally? It's currently protected from editing, so if you're not an admin yourself, let me know and I'll unprotect it if you need it to be. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

repeated copyright violation
You just handled Image:Vma.4.jpg. My related post at WP:AIV about seems to be sitting unhandled.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

PopcornFlowers
Sorry about this. I mistakenly loaded the image here rather than at Wikimedia as I have been doing, and thought the 'created by self' info must have been the copyright status as there seemed to be no indication of where to put it. Have fixed it now.Sterry2607 (talk) 06:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks and sorry
Thanks and sorry, thanks for not blocking me and sorry for my bad behaviour and i'd like to make it up to you.......  Hello J Milburn, Ben has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Articles for deletion/WikiChristian (2nd nomination)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/WikiChristian_%282nd_nomination%29&diff=prev&oldid=178952869 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.231.193 (talk • contribs)
 * What's your point? J Milburn (talk) 16:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Gidday
one of my pages made by bjaco has been up for deletion and i made the changes to make it more logic so if you havent had a look go a head Australian mantids and stick insects.

Thanks

regaurds

Ben jacob P.A.M.S-Phasmids And Mantids Studies (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC).

Image:UIC evl.jpg
This content has an uncertain copyright status and is pending deletion. You can comment on its removal. Photo was taken by EVL students and sent to our Media Lab for usage and distribution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmatthes (talk • contribs) 15:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

fix to link
Thanks for that. I remembered to fix it but got an EC and saw you had done it. Cheers, cygnis insignis 17:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not following- all I did was state that I am now neutral, I don't think I fixed any links. J Milburn (talk) 17:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ignore me. My stupid browser got me in a muddle. Pardon the unnecessary distraction. cygnis insignis 17:11, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't realise you were the nom. Perhaps you would consider withdrawing it, or making it obvious to the closing admin that you have changed your view. Cheers, cygnis insignis 17:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've no desire to withdraw it, there are others who have since agreed that the article should be deleted, and, as I said, I'm neutral now- I don't really mind either way. J Milburn (talk) 17:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That is up to you. Leave it to the mob that haunt such places, who never miss an opportunity to deride a new users efforts, and an sysop who feels compelled to respond to facile voting over worthiness. It took me moments to find a suitable ref for the new name, and many refs to the old name came up. Pardon my crankiness, and consider the merit of encouraging editors to contribute something that is more meaningful than yet another marginal character from a TV show that people will have forgotten 10 minutes later. cygnis insignis 17:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This "new editor" has been blocked numerous times (under at least two different usernames) for sockpuppeteering, personal attacks, ignoring advice, generally being disruptive and wasting a lot of people's time. This is his third incarnation that I have dealt with, and I'm now watching his edits in detail- I was more lenient than most in not blocking him on sight. Seriously, something like this is not going to deter him from writing about that stuff. J Milburn (talk)
 * I am genuinely alarmed by your response. You have emphatically stated that he is a sock puppet, but that you have been lenient by nominating a potentially legitimate article for deletion. Why, as punishment? If it is true then you have wasted my time, on the face of it there is nothing wrong with the article in question. The editor is the problem, according to you, not the edit. If you fail to see that this would only cause more disruption, then you do not appreciate the advantage in assuming good faith. In your position, having made that accusation, you are compelled to list the user at SSP. There is an enormous amount of articles that would have started out this way, and any number of editors (and sysops) who began contributing in this way. The longer they do, the less likely they are to go against consensus. Prejudiced and unwarranted challenges to legitimate edits would only inspire sockpuppetry in some cases, as sad as that may be. cygnis insignis 19:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not what I stated at all, I stated that I was lenient by not blocking him on sight. My nomination of the article had nothing to do with who the editor was, I was simply giving you a little bit of background- you had the mistaken view that this was just some poor new user who was being forced out because his article was nominated for deletion. I have spent hours with this person, and I am still assuming good faith in not blocking them on sight- despite the fact they have already abused numerous 'last' chances from numerous admins. Please see User talk:Bjaco18 for more details. I don't need to bother with SSP- not only can I tell who it is, but they have admitted as much on my talk page. Don't think I nominated the article because of who the author was- I nominated it because I thought the encyclopedia would be better off without it. Now, I'm not so sure- I still think it is a little overspecific (it may be redundant, there are probably no equivalent articles) but I can see there is a case for it being kept. Plus, there aren't that many admins who were blocked this many times and had so many socks. I really don't appreciate you describing my edits like that- this seems to be a classic case of assuming good faith on the user blocked many times, and assuming that it is the admin who is the one assuming bad faith and having some vendetta. J Milburn (talk) 19:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have written a dozen similar articles. Shall I give you a list to AfD them? The point of my statement above is that those admins and users would have been encouraged, despite their flawed contributions. I pointed out how it was disruptive to me. Why should I be drawn into it, I'm not interested in this (alleged) case of sockpuppetry, this was an AfD. If you know it is someone seeking to disrupt our document, you must report it in the appropriate place to avoid further disruption. cygnis insignis 19:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh! Hello again?! cygnis insignis 20:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I've been away from Wikipedia for a few days- the edit to the python article was made before you left your last message, and I honestly didn't see it- I wasn't deliberately ignoring you. I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make now. I felt the article was not appropriate, and I did AfD it. The contributor has been encouraged and made to feel welcome, despite constantly abusing the trust of the community and receiving numerous blocks (and, for God's sake, it's not an "alleged" case of ssockpuppetry, it's the same person). What do you want? What grievous error of judgement do you feel has been made? Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, there's no need for me to report said user anywhere- I've assessed the situation and feel another block is not warranted. If someone else feels that it is, they are welcome to either block them themselves or contact another administrator to give an opinion. Could you please tell me in plain English what you feel the problem is? J Milburn (talk) 10:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know how I could have made it any plainer. The AfD was not the best way to encourage someone who is |"trying to help". If you have chosen not to list the user, for whatever personal reason, then you could have done the simple edits that saw the article in question kept. If you don't know how to do this, I will be happy to help. You have chosen to 'adopt' the user and bring my attention to that, instead of discussing and improving legitimate content in main space. What do you want? cygnis insignis 12:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing where the problem is here. I thought the article should be deleted. I nominated it for deletion. Suddenly, I have you shouting about God knows what on my talk page. Do you feel I was in error in nominating the article? Is that the problem? If that's the only issue, I really don't see the need for all the accusations. J Milburn (talk) 13:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I'm starting to see this. I was not starting an AfD to encourage the user to do anything- I started an AfD because I thought the article should have been deleted. It's you who started talking about scaring new users and such- my nomination was purely because I thought the article should be deleted. J Milburn (talk) 13:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I refactored the threads to this page.
 * Your comment "Now, I'm not so sure- I still think it is a little overspecific (it may be redundant, there are probably no equivalent articles) but I can see there is a case for it being kept." is worth noting. Please try to establish the notability before taking it to AfD and refactoring your comments if your view changes. You can accept or ignore my comments on reducing disruption as you see fit, I meant no disrespect. If there is something substantial in your claims of 'all the accusations' and 'shouting', I will answer them, but I have no interest in vague characterisations. I would rather be improving main space, if you don't mind, can we start doing that now. cygnis insignis 14:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Brisbane 2008.jpg in Brisbane article
With this edit I note you tagged the subject image as tagged for speedy deletion but there's no tag on Image:Brisbane 2008.jpg. --AussieLegend (talk) 13:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi - thanks for the welcome! Let me know if you see me doing anything I shouldn't be, or if you see ways I can improve. I hope you had a good weekend! Maethordaer (talk) 21:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Trivium singles
I see that you are on. If you have the time could you please convince someone to create a page for either To The Rats or Becoming The Dragon? It's just that I'm almost positive that Becoming The Dragon is notable enough for a page. I would make the Page myself but I'm terrible at creating pages so if you wouldn't mind? Thanks! Jonasbrotherareterrible (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm not sure but I think that Becoming the Dragon was a single ut I'm not sure. I know that it's the band's most watched video on youtube and it has been used in background for quite a few interview vidoes but I know that doesn't make it notable enough. if it does than please make the page but If not then I'll try to find out whether it was a single or not. Also Back in July of '07 you said that To The Rats Needed an Aritcle and you Mentioned sources. Jonasbrotherareterrible (talk) 23:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Still haven't found out if Becoming was a single yet. But could you help with the editing of the Trivium article? I'd really like to see it get GA! Check the article's talk page for info on what needs to be done. I've made a few minor Changes here arn there but you could probably get it up to GA. I know this because you've done great work on other articles and there's no reason you can't do the same for this one! Jonasbrotherareterrible (talk) 16:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Protest against Raj Thackeray in Patna.jpg
I have edited the image page Image:Protest against Raj Thackeray in Patna.jpg. Kindly let me know if this is OK.

How do I change the name of the image from Protest against Raj Thackeray in Patna.jpg to Protest against Bal Thackeray in Patna.jpg ?

Thank you.

Manoj nav (talk) 16:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I have added details about the protest in the article, and have also added the image temporarily. Kindly go through the section - Discrimination_faced_by_the_Bihari_community_in_India. Don't you think the image illustrates the section better and gives a better picture of how the protest was made - burning of effigy, a pacific protest. Anyway I will live it to you.


 * I had uploaded seven images for the article and you have disputed just four. What about the remaining three? Are they OK? Manoj nav (talk) 18:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

WAAF Section officer
If you know what licence it should be under other than that then please suggest it, the company (its a fancy dress hire shop) has given me written permission to use it--Pandaplodder (talk) 18:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Not specific to Wiki no, I did have a look at that one but it has a speedy delete tag on so whats the point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandaplodder (talk • contribs)

I have sent that off to person concerned hope they bother filling it in--Pandaplodder (talk) 22:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Woman with a White Collar.jpg
At the time you nom'd the image, the article John Goodwin Lyman had specific content about the painter's work: "Stylistically he opposed both the Group of Seven and the Canadian Group of Painters, painting in a more "refined" style influenced by the School of Paris." This does meet "critical commentary on the work in question, the artistic genre or technique of the work of art or the school to which the artist belongs." Unless there is an example of work that the reader can see for themselves, there is no way of being able to evaluate the text and see in what way his style was "more 'refined'". It was the only image of an artwork in an article about an artist. I can't see any justification for deletion in this instance.  Ty  03:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Category:Hard rock groups
You might want to check all the other musical categories to make sure they're "foo musical groups" as well. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 13:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

French commune infoboxes
Hi. We have a large back log of French commune articles to add the infoboxes from French wikipedia Status check. All that needs doing is copying the infobox directly from the French wikipedia equivalent. Please see Vulaines. All that needs doing for each article is cutting and pasting the infobox from French wiki into every article which must be bot compatible. So for Vulaines all it requires is pasting the infobox into it from here and pasting it into the english wiki article. COuld somebody please programme a bot or use some form of coding to help complete the task in hours rather than months? Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 11:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Savage.jpg
If you care to take look at the image history, User:TheBlackViper, who only ever made vandal edits had changed the image and it was that I was trying to revert. Telling me to do NOT do things in that kind of tone and implying that I will lose my rollback rights due to one incorrectly performed edit does not show WP:AGF. I did not follow up with any warnings on your page which is customary after rollback vandal edits. If I had done so I could fully appreciate your current feelings, but the fact is I did not. If you care to look I even rollbacked my own edits, trying to remove the pornographic image that had been put in its place, so I must be referring to myself a as vandal too. I have no feelings over the correct image one way or another and as far I as I am concerned the matter is closed. Regards Waterden (talk) 14:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Image: J_C_Sum.jpg
Hi, I have added the source of the image in the summary. Is that correct and sufficient? I only put in the name of the creator of the image. Apologies about the lack of citing of source, i wasn't sure where it should go as it was not in the template. Yuanshangcao (talk) 19:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Chubbles/Sleeping Giant (band)
You need to notify me of these things. Chubbles (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Image up for deletion
Hi J Milburn. I have commented on your proposal here. It would be great if we can find a way to save the image as it is the best by far at illustrating the house. I have suggested expanding the section on the book in the Ashcombe House, Wiltshire article - would that help? Stronach (talk) 10:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Persecution
Hello J Milburn. User Crazyaboutlost has started a bad-faith persecution to my contributions in several articles:Carmen Miranda, Portuguese Brazilian, Ethnic groups in Brazil, Brazilian people, University of São Paulo, Italian Brazilian, Afro-Brazilian, Japanese Brazilian, Oizumi, Gunma, Rio de Janeiro, among others.

I already had problems with this user, who likes to chase others. He seems to be trying to destabilize the articles or vandalize what I do. Can you help me with it? Opinoso (talk) 15:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Opinoso has been blocked from portuguese wikipedia for three months for disruptive behaviour, ofend people, prejudice and so on. If you taka a close look, you will se that my editions are valid.
 * Wheres is the source to claim that snows every year? Acctualy it does not snow every year. (And if I'm not mistake, it shoud be "snow falls").
 * There's a source proving what is said there.
 * That's a opinion. There's no source to prove that.
 * He had erased the source. I put it back
 * Opinoso suppressed that Carmen was portuguese. Some people in Brazil believe that she was brazilian, and do not handle well with the fact she wasn't...

Crazyaboutlost (talk) 21:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you two not sort this out between you? This appears to be a content dispute. Please just discuss the issues like human beings- I'm not seeing any attempts at discussion between the two of you at the moment. I've got no great desire to step in at this point. J Milburn (talk) 09:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Move request
Hey, could you please move Horror Show (Iced Earth album) to Horror Show (album). The original Horror Show (album) was actually an EP and I need help with the move. Thanks. − ₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  05:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Unusual self-made images
Hello J Milburn. Anyway, I've took all the pictures and got a permission from my friend who is a professional photographer and he got access to attended the press conferences and some football match. And I've informed him that his nice captured will be uploading on Wikipedia. Thank you for your concerned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Badrulville (talk • contribs) 19:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Talbot
I've done some work and gotten about halfway through. Please check my changes. I have to go get an education now but I'll try and finish it off tonight. Giggy (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh... late classes + not sleeping in as planned = copyediting.... which might be more incentive to check my edits! ;-) Giggy (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Suleman Mirza
Please refrain from such disruptive and unproductive behavior. The person concerned is clearly notable and has performed several solo shows, so the logic you provided does not apply here. --Delhi Belly 2 (talk) 04:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification about the nomination for deletion of the above article. Even though I created it, I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other about it.-- ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 17:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Am I supposed to laugh at your "you'll be blocked" warning? And someone is telling me "not to be ridiculous". What a joke. Be glad that I'm not jobless enough to take this matter further and report your empty warning. And listen, I've been on Wikipedia since 2004. And just because my current account doesn't show that, it doesn't give you the authority to go around and say ridiculous stuff. You were basically trying to say, "don't revert my edits in future otherwise you'll be blocked". Wow! Talk about misusing power to threaten others. You have some serious issues. Anyways, I'm glad that you added the deletion template instead of initiating an edit war. I've always believed in consensus and though I agree that I should have gone through your profile before leaving those "templates", you didn't help your cause either by giving this explanation for the redirect. --Delhi Belly 2 (talk) 19:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I want to add something more.. it was because of Wikipedians like you that I lost my interest in Wikipedia. But the willingness to contribute to this website brought me back. I should have known better. Good riddance.. --Delhi Belly 2 (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page redesign
The Main Page Redesign proposal is currently conducting a straw poll to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the Main Page. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, P retzels Talk! 08:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Protodeviln image copyright...
Just added the copyright information to the Protodeviln image...Kronnang Dunn (talk) 10:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Connie Talbot FAC
This is a quick note to let you know I commented on this FAC. I've added some comments on issues I cannot address myself (I've also done a copyedit). Please address my comments so I can add my support.- Mgm|(talk) 11:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You broke the sentence when you removed the X-factor mention. You can't connect the two bits with a comma. One is a planned performance, the other is one that happened with an actual date. The sentence mixes up two totally different ideas. _ Mgm|(talk) 12:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * plans were made for appearances on This Morning.... suggest that there were multiple appearances on that show (it is not related to the second one mentioned). Is that the case? - Mgm|(talk) 12:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you happen to know?
Do you happen to know what the copyright status of images created by the Canadian government is? If so what liscensing would we use on wikipedia? --Kuzwa (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. So if that's the case then I should assume that images created by Transport Canada are not free to upload to wikipeda. --Kuzwa (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Political Dweeb's Question
User:Political Dweeb here is not sure what is wrong with the Reform Party of the United States of America non-free content logos that you tok away. It means I cannot create a gallery with these logos on the Wikipedia article about this political party. Therefore can you advise me on how where I could possibly put these logos of this party.

Political Dweeb talk —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC).

Logos for BritOz organisation
I've tried again to provide these logos in a manner acceptable to the Gods. Hopefully this poor sheep will not be subject to the vagaries of the wolf yet again ;-) The following logos have had "source" information provided: Image:BritOz Logo.gif Image:BritOz emblem.gif and have been reinstated on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain-Australia_Society DAEaton (talk) 23:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject: Dungeons & Dragons
Hi! I’ve been working on a lot of ‘’Dungeons & Dragons’’ articles lately and saw that you were a member of WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons), and am inviting you to rejoin Wikipedia’s D&D group. I've been hard at work removing tags placed inappropriately on D&D articles, as well as modifying articles to remove tags that were placed legitimately. In addition, I have been compiling related articles together so that the articles are longer, making it easier to remove tags and to have short articles on lesser topics by just putting it into another appropriate article (links to such compiled articles can be found on my userpage). Check out the project here, and ask any questions that you may have here. Thank you for your time. Drilnoth (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedia UK v2.0
Hello! Thanks for showing an interest in Wikimedia UK v2.0. Formation of the company is currently underway under the official name "Wiki UK Limited", and we are hoping to start accepting membership in the near future. We have been drawing up a set of membership guidelines, determining what membership levels we'll have (we plan on starting off with just standard Membership, formerly known as Guarantor Membership, with supporting membership / friends scheme coming later), who can apply for membership (everyone), what information we'll collect on the application form, why applications may be rejected, and data retention. Your input on all of this would be appreciated. We're especially after the community's thoughts on what the membership fee should be. Please leave a message on the talk page with your thoughts.

Also, we're currently setting up a monthly newsletter to keep everyone informed about the to-be-Chapter's progress. If you would like to receive this newsletter, please put your username down on this page.

Thanks again. Mike Peel (talk) 19:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC) (Membership Secretary, Wikimedia UK [Proposed])

Religion in Albania
Hello, I just reverted an edit there where someone had replaced the long article with something much shorter that contradicted the original text. There's one of those lock icons in the corner so I thought that meant the article was protected somehow. I had reverted an IP edit, aren't IP's unable to edit protected articles? I don't know if the article should or shouldn't be protected, but would you mind taking a look at this, or at least turn it over to someone else? Thank you. Loves Macs  (talk) 22:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Funny
Hi J! Long time to talk to. I stumbled on this user (probable sock) which I thought was pretty comical because they copied my user page and your barnstars. Weird huh. :) Anyway, also wanted to drop by and say thanks for all your efforts with regards to allmusic - I know it must be tedious work and you are appreciated.  Hope you are doing well.  I'm juggling two jobs so I don't do as much as I'd like to here right now, hoping I can have more time soon.  Cheers.  ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 01:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit late in looking at the FAC. Congrats!  :)  ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Photos Speedy Deletion
RE: Wikipedia: The Syn There are images scheduled for 'speedy deletion.' Can you explain the cause for the deletion. It is apparent that there is a violation of some type, but it's not clear to me. Your help would be appreciated in order to avoid future mistakes. Thank you.--Ilboma (talk) 17:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The photographs come from www.synmusic.net. Is that a violation?--Ilboma (talk) 03:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

From Zaher1988
This photo is not available online on any website except Facebook. Plus it is widely available since long time by people who are fans of the army. What do you suggest doing?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaher1988 (talk • contribs)

The image of soldiers at their base where i said the photo is widely available. It is widely shared but not over websites, because there isn't much websites dedicated or partially dedicated for topics and images of the Lebanese army, plus they are few who are using these websites. The online mean that is mostly used here to share photos either by the soldiers or their relatives is Facebook, and the IM, not using like photo websites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaher1988 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

After many trials I'm lost about what i have to use, as this keeps some rights reserved and as i understood it fits media that is shared... Please suggest where that photo fits...

As for the AP - Daylife photo, the copyrights permission is written in there FAQ page, isn't that enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaher1988 (talk • contribs)

The other photo is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lebnavysealnahrbaredvic.jpg As for the widely shared photo, shouldn't it fit into GNU Free Documentation License?? I mean it was taken (not by an agency or a professional photographer) and shared... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaher1988 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Cenere.jpg
Hello! In regard to your message: the photo Cenere.jpg is a publicity still from a 1916 film. The movie and the photo are both in the public domain -- the copyright expired years ago. Thank you and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * PS I added the proper PD tag to the photo page. Thanks, again. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Great. Thanks for the heads up! Ecoleetage (talk) 19:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)



Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Your GA nomination of Three_Little_Birds_(Connie_Talbot_song)
The article Three_Little_Birds_(Connie_Talbot_song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Three_Little_Birds_(Connie_Talbot_song) for things needed to be addressed. \ / (⁂) 03:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Bhayanak Maut's image
Hello. With regards to the band Bhayanak Maut's earlier uploaded image. I have uploaded a new image which I have clicked myself. Hope this issue is settled. Thanks a ton. Akshaygn (talk) 13:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Unfinished Music No.1: Two Virgins
So sorry. I changed the header after addressing the point, but perhaps did so too soon. Again, very sorry.

Fair use rationale for Unfinished Music.jpg No copyleft equivalent is available. The cover is intended for wide distribution and its use here does not detract from the album. The cover is low resolution and only the front portion is used. The cover has been previously published by retail outlets. The cover meets general Wikipedia content requirements. The cover meets Wikipedia's image use policy. The cover is used only in the said article. For an article about an album, the cover is one of the most relevant images that can be included. The cover is used in the article namespace. The source and copyright tag is identified for the cover.

Valueyou (talk) 15:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

OK. I will remove the other images and the header. OK? Valueyou (talk) 16:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Pearling crew 1926.JPG
Why do you keep tagging the image despite the fact that I've added a valid fair-use rationale. The image is indispensable in the article Madras Presidency which is on its way to FA-nomination. Do you have anything personal against me?- Ravichandar My coffee shop 16:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll remove all my images from the article, then- Ravichandar My coffee shop 16:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Your tagging for the second consecutive time despite the fact that I had added a fair use rationale and explained to you the importance of the image in the article did not appear good to me. Anyway, I don't wish to speak of it anymore.- Ravichandar My coffee shop  19:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe that there are bots to tag images that violate copyright and template the uploader. I have been around for over 2 years and I know the copyright issues pretty well. I have a pretty clean record here. Yeah, I agree that I was wrong in not adding the fair-use notice. And you were right in tagging the image. But then, did I not add the notice and explain the necessity of the image in the article. If I had missed something in the fair-use notice, you could have told me. The second tagging was unnecessary. - Ravichandar My coffee shop 19:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am sorry if I am not permitted to discuss this in your talkpage but I felt that I need to make my protest.- Ravichandar My coffee shop 20:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The Royal Swedish Navy Youth Band
Hello! I would very much like to know why the pictures that I added to the article aren't visible. I would be very pleased if you could help me in this matter. Regads, (Theophonium (talk) 18:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC))

Thank you for your advice! I am quite new at Wikipedia but I really want to learn. I have read the text again and I hope that all "advertising" is removed. If not, I would be more than pleased if you could mark or remove it for me. Concerning sources, there are not many I can think of, would any document from some institution or likewise be enough of evidence for claiming the existance of the band? Or is it other sources that you want me to attach to the article? Best regards, (Theophonium (talk) 19:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC))

I understand what you mean, but I claim that the band is unique due to its keeping of traditions and constellation. The band is the only youth - military band in Sweden, hence not a common "college band", There are several sources in magazines, but they are all in swedish... Is this a major problem concerning sources? (Theophonium (talk) 21:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC))

Removal of Album images on Discography of Command & Conquer
Can you explain why the album images cannot be used in a discography, link to something backing this up and then explain why 15 Good-Article discographys all have album images in them?


 * Discography of Final Fantasy I and II
 * Discography of Final Fantasy III
 * Discography of Final Fantasy IV
 * Discography of Final Fantasy V

Etc. Please reply on my talk page or at least inform me of a reply on yours.
 * Cabe 6403  (Talk•Sign!) 00:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Three Little Birds (Connie Talbot song)
The article Three Little Birds (Connie Talbot song) you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Three Little Birds (Connie Talbot song) for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Sorry to do this, but Ziegler was quite correct. I left some hints as to possible references on the Review page. Best of Luck! \ / (⁂) 19:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Image problem - History of 1 & 9 UDR
I note your comment on my talk page. There is no copyright on the image. It was handed into the UDR Association office in Coleraine with the express purpose that it be used in related articles on the wiki. We do not know who created it. However, I will now amend the licensing to show that it was supplied to me by Ronnie Gamble with permission to use it. A blanket permission has already been e-mailed for all images supplied by Ronnie Gamble of the UDR Association.

Do you find this acceptable? Thunderer (talk) 00:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thelonious Monk album images
You deleted the six Thelonious Monk images I uploaded. You gave three reasons, at least two of which I do not believe to be correct:

"The image is orphaned." The images were all intended for the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelonious_Monk_Blue_Note_Sessions.

"The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use." The images in question are album covers. I read the Fair Use page and it appears that album covers are generally considered to be fair use in the context of articles about those albums. Thelonious Monk's "Blue Note Sessions" can be considered an album with a finite amount of content, which has been released in several forms under similar titles. If I should format the article differently to accommodate this, please let me know.

"Album covers should not be used in discographies". I would argue that this is not a discography as much as a description of the editions of one 32-song album. This is an unusual case where the same cover art and title have been used in at least four releases with related but distinctly different contents. (in other words, recordings might be on "Volume 1" in one edition and "Volume 2" in another, using the same covers.) It was leading to inaccurate and hard-to-read entries on the various pages discussing the releases in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_of_Modern_Music:_Volume_1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_of_Modern_Music:_Volume_2

It made sense to me to discuss the material (which is from the dawn of the "album" era) as a single unit, rather than on various pages re-dividing the material in confusing ways.

In earlier drafts of the article, I tried to differentiate the albums by describing the covers....but a picture is worth 1000 words in this case.

Please advise on any better ways to handle this. I have worked on this article for a great many hours and I am taking it seriously. Thank you.Sojambi Pinola (talk) 19:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you help me out? Call me dense, but I'm having trouble following this, especially since the Wikipedia form page that I used for the uploads has a whole section explaining why album covers are OK. Would it be OK on a page devoted to that one and only album?


 * If so, can I "un-orphan" these images if I upload them to their respective album pages instead? (for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_of_Modern_Music:_Volume_1) And if so, how?


 * thank you.


 * Sojambi Pinola (talk) 21:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, cool, thanks. Is there any way to show _both_ covers??  Sojambi Pinola (talk) 21:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks again! Sojambi Pinola (talk) 21:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Product Photos
I've submitted several photos I've taken myself to the Rock Lords page to enhance the content, considering most vintage toy enthusiasts enjoy being able to see representations of the items. I've only included photos I have taken myself, though they do not represent the entire line.

That being said, what information should I have provided to avoid the numerous warnings issued to my talk page? Thank you. (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC).

I am now confused. I see several other toys shown throughout wikipedia with no more citation than my own. This is too much of a hassle. You may delete all the images.

Actually, is there a way I can delete the images, I'd be glad to save someone else the hassle.

Multiple messages
I see you have many stars. You must therefore be very savvy about Wikipedia and its use. So why did you send me so many messages? The "Possibly unfree images" warning states "If you are tagging several images uploaded by the same user, consider consolidating the notices into a courteous and appropriate message." It sure would be appreciated! Cheers!

King Savang Vatthana
The photo is of the US government US Department of Defense.

It is noted at the bottom of the photo, when I loaded it.

"This work is in the public domain in the United States because it is a work of the United States Federal Government under the terms of Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 105 of the US Code. See Copyright."Bnguyen (talk) 20:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Website: https://www.nationalinfantrymuseum.com/ Bnguyen (talk) 20:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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Image Sources
You've marked for deletion an image I've uploaded stating that the source is not identified. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_R_S_Tour_Classic_Bill_Stuard.JPG) I'm a bit confused about what you want. All of the images that I've uploaded have been released to the public domain by their respective original owners. What can I do to satisfy you of this? Thanks. S Bumgardner (talk) 03:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * All of the images I uploaded came directly from the individuals who pushed the buttons on the cameras. As such, the Source and Author are the same. That's why I credited each picture in that manner. I found the copyright release and am in the process of getting completed copies either forwarded by the original owner or forwarding the replies that I have received from them. I hope that this will be satisfactory. S Bumgardner (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am following the instructions on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:COPYREQ as found in the box under "Declaration of consent for all enquiries". I have inserted the address of the image as instructed. I hope that this is sufficient. I will note the images pending as you mentioned. Thank you for your help with this. S Bumgardner (talk) 02:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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Co-nomination? and article writing.
Great job on bringing Connie Talbot to featured article status. I want to help along George Sampson to the same status, but with the Royal Variety performance still in the future, it's probably not stable enough. I'm about to get some outdated material fixed (that was written before the actual events took place) add some sources and stuff. Would you be interested in co-nominating this article for FA status when the time comes - hopefully near the end of the year? The one time I did try to nom an article for FA, I didn't manage to be comprehensive, and someone else got me discouraged by including a link irrelevant information the page of which only got deleted in the past year. A bit of support could help me pull through.

I'm also trying to set up an article writing class and I noticed you've got at least one DYK to your name as well as that FA (probably more, it's addictive). Perhaps you're interested in helping to develop this idea or to join as a tutor once I've got it sorted? - Mgm|(talk) 23:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Writing an article about a dancer isn't really that different from a singer (by the way, he will sing on his double a-side single). Anyway, it will take some time before I'm done with rewriting this, so nomination is still far away. What I'd like help with specifically is digging up some sources. I'm wondering if there's reliable records of how long A2AA (George's dance troupe) has been in existence and if the mainstream news ever went any further than merely mentioning them (which would allow me to go into slightly more detail about them in George's article.- Mgm|(talk) 13:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely done yet, but this is my initial attempt at fixing up the article with an all-out rewrite. I'm not happy about the logo section yet and there's a lot that still needs including, but it's a start. - Mgm|(talk) 11:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:VistaSB.jpg
Hello J Milburn,

I have added the new information on it. Also, is it possible to have a name change done on Wikipedia? I've gained a new nicky around online and it really doesn't apply here .. so people won't know technically who I am.

Thanks for contacting me about it, and I hope I fixed it correctly.

Kind Regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Techpro5238 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Catamenia → Catamenia (band) and Catamenia → Catamenia (disambiguation)
Hello again. I need help moving the history of the following articles to their correct locations. After you move Catamenia move it again to disambig unless you know the deal then never mind. Thank you. − ₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  22:49, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for the help and extra help you've done and alright for the history merge stuff. − ₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  21:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Image: Mark_Templeton-Frail_As_Breath.jpg
Hello, can you tell me what I missed filling in for this image of cover art? I thought that I credited it properly... one thing that I didn't put anywhere in the album cover template was: "Licensed under cc" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ is this what was missing? Canadian Girl Scout (talk) 23:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Heads up
I dropped a comment on the Connie album FAC and I left a note about George Sampson in an earlier discussion on this page. Mgm|(talk) 11:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (Copied from FAC page:


 * Marc Marot is Talbot's publicist, it is his channel the videos were uploaded on. Talbot's official site links to Marot's channel as Talbot's "official" channel- I guess she has two. J Milburn (talk) 17:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you should point that out somehow. It's not immediately evident. - Mgm|(talk) 20:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Formatting The name of the album should be in italics throughout according to the WikiProject Music MUSTARD standards. - Mgm|(talk) 20:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Scouting images
We are working this issue. It took years to build up to this point and it is going to take a while to fix. I did go through the Scouting in articles for Africa, Asia and Europe; problem images and articles are listed at WikiProject Scouting. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  20:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

grecian urn
I appologize, this is my first real edit of an article. I didn't put the full text of the poem on the page; it was there when started and I didn't feel justified in deleting it. I think the article as a whole needs to delve a bit deeper into the poem, without doing any OR, which is really tough to do, and I know I have failed. But i am doing my best to learn html in the process. I do feel that the image of the urn helps, as many people will fail to understand (as I did) what Keats is talking about when he discusses the heroic images on the urn. I am going to find a better image with actual figures like the ones in the poem, but that might take time.

I think the article definitely needs a criticism section at the bottom, with a focus on the truth/beauty problem. The only problem is that the net doesn't have what I need to do it well, and I don't have time to go to the library until next weekend.

Otherwise, it needs a definite face-lift and a more-defined grouping of subjects. Mrathel (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I totally appologize; I put this information here mistaking you for another user. I appreciate your help with the free image information. Mrathel (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Uiscedwr photo
Hi J Milburn, I see you have slapped a speedy deletion notice on the photograph of Uiscedwr which I uploaded on the band's behalf. This pic is Uiscedwr's current group shot - commissioned by them and featuring their current (late 2008) line-up - and I have the explicit pernmission of Anna Esslemont to use it. However, additionally I have now asked Anna to instruct the photographer to confirm it is for general use as well. So hold your fire please. Also, please do not revert to the previous version, firstly because it shows a defunct line-up and secondly because it is defaced by overlaid text. Andy F (talk) 08:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi again. I got your message on my talkk page and I'll follow your suggestions ASAP. Many thanks, Andy F (talk) 19:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion please
Does this,, constitute a discography, and therefore disallowed under the terms of use for non free images????  Esradekan Gibb   "Talk" 11:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

D. Harlan Wilson
Hi, i noticed you removed the drawing / portrait from th above article. This is a recreation of a deleted copyright violotation. I took it to "poosibly unfree images", and it was deleted. It then got speedied after being recreated at commons. I first suspected it was not PD, as the user uploaded 6 images by different artists, and claimed the right to release as PD for all of them. But now i have found the page the image is stolen from - I re-tagged it as copyvio speedy delete with this source.

But, my question is whether there is any way to stop this image from being recreated, or stop this user from uploading. He adds it as an IP address, but uploads with a single purpose account. It is currently taking me longer to remove the image, and tag / source it than it does for him to upload it!Yobmod (talk) 10:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Govenlock.jpg
I know that this image is up for deletion, but I couldn't find no deletion debate on it. Does such a thing exist for this image? Mr. C.C. (talk) 18:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Image: Chip magazine in Indonesian Wikipedia
It's a promotional item. Serenity id (talk) 16:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, so how can I change it to: Images - 4. Other promotional material: Posters, programs, billboards, ads. ? Serenity id (talk)

Well, if my rational is irrational by your standard, then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind isn't it? Fine. Delete if you must. Serenity id (talk) 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I already read it. This is my respon "Images - 4. Other promotional material: Posters, programs, billboards, ads. ?", but you think it is irrelevant, for that I have no other suggestion than the previous respon. Serenity id (talk) 16:50, 30 November 2008 (UTC)