User talk:J man708/Talk page archive 2

Apologies
Hey mate, Sorry if this edit annoyed you. I didn't mean to do undo to bug you. I wanted to restore it to the situation before your edit so I could make sure of myself that I didn't put in mistakes, that's all. --SuperJew (talk) 07:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC) I also don't really understand what your issue with the edit actually was? --SuperJew (talk) 07:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It just irked me that it was a small issue that didn't require an undo, just needed to be rectified. - J man708 (talk) 08:52, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Best goalkeeper in infobox
I hear what you're saying about your worry that it'll explode and be against WP:NOSTATS. However there is precedent to having best goalkeeper as it is a parameter of the template and is described in the documentation. Also, it's not WP:OR (as it would be in some leagues) as it is sourced and mentioned in the end of season awards in the A-League.

Where do we stop? Quite simply, we only add the things which already have an established parameter. Fair play award, Best u23 player, Happiest manager at the end of Round 17 don't have parameters so they shouldn't (and would be a bit of a clusterfuck) be added. (By the way, if you do have a source about Happiest manager at the end of Round 17, I'd love to see it)

Regarding other leagues, England, Italy and Spain, which are three of the most famous known worldwide leagues have it, so I'm not sure how not having the best goalkeeper matches it.

Any additional thoughts J mate? --SuperJew (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I may have jumped the gun on it, I was sure that the best keeper stat wasn't in the infobox. Is this a new development or something? I'm sure it wasn't there not long ago... Not trying to sound like a salty AUFC fan (I'm really not, take the good with the bad), but having Sorensen as best keeper last season seems so forced. He really just wasn't statistically compared to say Galekovic. It's exactly like having a best goal scorer stat not going to the highest scorer. It's so arbitrary, opaque and vague.
 * At the end of the day, if it's included in the other leagues, then we should have it in. Even if it does mean keeping in Sorensen's keeper of the year stat (personal bias aside). I'll apologise to this one, it is an established perameter (contrary to my pre-existing beliefs). While we're at it, I've been thinking about getting rid of the "Biggest Home Win" stat wherein it's illogical showing them all and replacing them with a single 3 goals (8 times). Thoughts? - J man708 (talk) 21:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * In both cases I think it's good that it's referenced though because of that. If it wasn't I'd agree it's silly to keep it. On the personal note I agree that it was a bit weird that the FFA gave the award to Sorensen, though it's their usual BS of keeping baby Melb City happy :S On the plus saide Galekovic has 4 seasons he won the award (which is the most of all keepers in the league).
 * I totally support the "biggest home win" removal/replacement... it just clogs up the infobox --SuperJew (talk) 21:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I mean, he was at least the best keeper in the league. He's the only domestic keeper to have been selected for a WC squad since the 1974 team. I think the FFA just wanted to show off their marquee keeper, to be honest.
 * Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who agrees with a lot of what the FFA does and also is a bit of a fan of the idea of Melbourne City. Sure, they've got the Cahill vi$ion and all that, but really, they're good for the league. Heart were beating (teams) too irregularly and the City Group brang in some good money. Added to that, they've also loop-holed around the FFA's anti-transfer concept and in their short time have brought some reasonable names to the league. - J man708 (talk) 21:30, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree they did bring good stuff too, and the FFA did block them when they went a bit overboard (like the Caceres case). I wish though the FFA would go for promotion/regulation instead of expanding again... --SuperJew (talk) 21:37, 9 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't. Not just yet, at least. The clubs most likely to be promoted are the ex-NSL clubs, who proceded to fuck up the top flight last time. Whether they admit to it or not, there's still an us and them mentality amongst many. Even South Melbourne (who are probably the closest ethnic club to being introduced) still have a way to go, distancing themselves from any form of nationalist identity (which they may rightfully claim is taking away from their overall identity). It's an interesting case, but I can actually sympathise with the FFA's stance on it. The current setup of clubs in the A-League coming from franchises is far too manufactured for my liking. It's why I'm a huge fan of the Wollongong Wolves being a part of the league in the very near future. I don't feel as though any of the ethnically backgrounded clubs have done enough to warrant their inclusion in the top flight just yet. Hakoah Sydney City East as you know means power or strength in Hebrew and they've still clearly got the Star of David on their logo. Bonnyrigg White Eagles call themselves the White Eagles, even though this is clearly a self-identity of Serbian culture. Melbourne Knights had that dummy spit over the Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club FFA Cup shirt sponsor. West Adelaide still is identified as Hellas by many etc. I feel as though teams with any form of national identity should be rebuilt from the ground up. Brisbane Roar for me is an interesting one, however... - J man708 (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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Flag of Europe
This is not the merely the European Union flag. It was created at the behest of the Council of Europe, who still own the copyright to it, 61 years ago. Azerbaijan is one of their members. The European Union didn't adopt it until much much later.Tvx1 05:55, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * what's this in relation to? - J man708 (talk) 08:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * edit.Tvx1 13:49, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * as long as the Pacific flag is kept, then I don't mind being wrong! - J man708 (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The Pacific flag has never been associated with Japan or the Pacific Grand Prix. The European Grand Prix however has actually been held under the European Flag. So your reasoning for adding the Pacific flag is flawed.Tvx1 17:02, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It feels about as correct as utilising the San Marino flag for the race in Imola, Italy or the Luxembourg flag for the race in Nurburg, Germany. I know that these were specifically the San Marino and Luxembourg GPs, (which could justify the flag usage) but so too was the Pacific GP (utilising the flag of the Pacific Community). If we keep the Euro flag, then we should keep the Pacific flag. - J man708 (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

2017 FFA Cup qualification
HOW MANY Victorian clubs have entered now ? Wow, quite impressive. First draw next tuesday. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, hell yeah! I'm down with that! Still though, not as many as the Coupe de France! - J man708 (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you please vet my edits for NNSW in terms of tiers (for which i have remarkably little interest as they are essentially meaningless bullsh that doesnt belong in an encyclopedia)?
 * I have essentially copy/paste teams/tiers from last years event, and recognize some teams may have had promo/rel. since then. Once again, NNSW cocked-up the |live draw with 3 extra balls, so the match-ups they said happened on the live feed were not what they ended up with. As per last year, there will be whole regions which will skip a round; but too early to tell what will happen beyond round 3 - as they don't even know !!! Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:18, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Too easy... Well, actually, it's not, but I'll get on it. Hahaha. I'll definitely agree that some member federations make it so much easier than others. I watched the draw and updated it as it happened and thought that I'd zoned out and missed a game and quickly had to go back and fix it. It wouldn't be an FFA Cup draw without a fuck-up or two. #TheMagicOfTheCup Also, I hope you appreciated the NK barnstar! - J man708 (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * saw the half time score - (4-0) and tuned out; next week's game will be a DIFFERENT STORY. Did you know the Perth Glory hasnt ever made it to ACL - very disappointing . Will have to make do with Chelsea instead. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You got kinda screwed over in 2011–12, when the AFC decided to drop Australia to 1.5 spots. To be fair, you can feel free to support Adelaide United in the CL! - - - - NO !
 * You're a knob-jockey! Hahaha At least it's not like having to support your main rivals, Welnix and the legendary "Distance Derby". Move over Old Firm, El Clásico and Superclásico. This is the real rivalry here, lads! - J man708 (talk) 10:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * * the draw for NNSW for round 1 and olny Round 1 was made yesterday. . . .this edit about "rearranged NNSW rounds as per 2014-2015 reshufflings" is unsubstantiated and I will revert to what was actually announced for Round 1. You do not know the format for the later rounds, so it is not a worthwhile exercise to try and guess based on what happened the year before last. It maybe clear what is happening in Round 6 and 7 already, but it is better to leave NNSW round 2/3/4/5 blank (at least for the northern zones) until there is referencable information. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * * ALSO : may still be a bit premature to add Tie numbers for some of the rounds until all Federations' paths are known. - last time there was a lot of renumbering edits of tie numbers that was not very meaningful.
 * * ALSO : Queensland may be moving from their 8 regional competitions into three broader zones - Queensland FFA applications - I guess we'll know next week. Will mean a shit-load of extra travel and removal of many local derbies, so i don't think its likely a good thing. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * is it worth removing the under construction tag now ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * It helps us explain why it currently looks like a dog's breakfast. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 05:46, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * your comment that TheFFACup.com.au lists NNSW North Coast as Round 1 and NNSW Far North Coast as Round 2 seems to me more likely that they just put different sections into different rounds - I'll bet the FFA are just as confused as the rest of us for what Northern NSW Football are really doing. The same website also has 19 ties between Undecided teams playing on Saturday 18th March as ROUND 3. Now thats not going to work either fpor the southern pool unless they finish in Round 8. Hopefully the FFA Cup website is not using Wikipedia as a source ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:05, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, they have more than 8 teams, while the other Subzones use 8 teams or less, meaning that they WILL need another round, regardless. It's exactly what happened last year. Have a look at this. So far, I'm 99.9% sure this is the set up, dude - User:J man708/FFA Cup - J man708 (talk) 22:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * PRobably you are right, but that doesnt legitimise your Guessing Games. I'm posting this discussion on Format on the articles Talk Page to get a wider audience, and to try to slightly temper your obvious enthusiasm for predictions. Enthusiasm meant in a nice way !!! not in a Caltex Superjmanapedia sort of way. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You can change it back if you want. I'm probably gonna stick to refining that Userpage link, to be honest, anyway. I'm sure that I'm not too far off of figuring out the nonsensical NNSW system. Hahaha.
 * No, just FYI. also I get the new term wrong, its Superjmanapedia. Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * HEY! Get it right. It's the Caltex Superjmanapedia. - J man708 (talk) 06:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)


 * 12 victorian ties done, 32 to go. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!! Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I had to go to Coles before it closed. Also, doing these is so tiring. I'm just gonna slowly chip away at them throughout the night. - J man708 (talk) 10:07, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * looks good now. Just doing 20 ties for Brisbane round 3 did my head in.  I sooooo hope NSW does a draw for each round instead of the unbridled excitement of all 7 rounds at once.
 * Irymple Knights - Only 7 more walkovers before they come up against A-League opposition.  Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:29, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * minor revert RE: Campbellfield Lions. Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Irymple Knights - March on, march on.
 * sorry I removed your under construction tag yesterday by mistake (when I removed my in use tag after adding the Victorian Round 2 Draw). However, maybe its OK now, that the competition's underway,and the main further edits/constructional changes will be when all of Queensland is known. So add back the under construction tag if you think it needs to be, but I'd be mainly creating the changes first in a Sandbox (or equivalent, as you are doing). Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:52, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Irymple Knights actually had to play a game, though, so that kinda ruins it for me! Also, no sweat, I just had it on there when the page was undergoing hourly updates. It's a little more set in stone now, anyway. Also, you never got back to me on your talk page, you asshat! - J man708 (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * and watch out for User:124.189.34.50 . . . . not always accurate edits - appears to mean well, and I've been trying hard to assume good faith but I think there's often an element of speculation in the posts from time to time. Remind you of anyone? Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling they're from the 442 forums, personally. Remind me of anyone? Hmmm... I'm gonna go with politicians. They seem to do that often enough. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * no i was actually thinking of someone born in October 1990 ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 11:45, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Sebastian Rode or İlkay Gündoğan? Makes me realise what I could've done, had I been skilled enough with a football! - J man708 (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * no i was actually thinking of someone born on 11 October 1990 ! Matilda Maniac (talk)
 * Sebastian Rode it is! - J man708 (talk) 03:03, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * no i was actually thinking of someone born on 11 October 1990 from Adelaide ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:26, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, yeah, yeah... I got it the first time! Also, Football NSW's draw is done! Yay! - J man708 (talk) 04:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * See you've done rounds 2 5 6 and 7 for NSW . . . . round 3 will be easy - good luck with that. I just wish they had done round 2 and 3, and left the others for later like most sensible federations.  Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Fingers crossed you entered that 'easy' NSW Round 3 in exact order ! Otherwise those tie numbers that link through wont work. Only good thing about a 6-round draw for me is I can see who the likely opponents might be for my old team Mosman FC, who I played with for 5 years. Matilda Maniac (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * You're starting to lose it in your old age! You're from WA, not NSW! Hurr hurr hurr. But really though, that draw was unpleasant, least it's 12 months til another. - J man708 (talk) 00:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * only been in WA for 23 years, so only 27 to go before being deemed a 'local'.
 * Played for the mighty Mosman FC for 5 years - or maybe it was 6 - uniform was identical to Argentina's; so of course thats my real second team, and I'll see them at MCG in 14 weeks. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Methuselah Maniac, how bloody old are you? Hahaha! Were you a Messi/Maradona style number 10 aswell? - J man708 (talk) 21:29, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, it's 8am here and all I can hear is those damn V8 Supercars! Are you much of a motorsport fan? - J man708 (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * i was a left back, but my Argentinian hero was Osvaldo Ardiles who played midfield for Spurs, and Ray Clemence who was the Liverpool goalkeeper. Thought Maradona was just a show-pony who could dribble. Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

It's funny that Maradona was either loved or hated. I know he was a little before your time, but Bobby Moore will always be almost mythical to me. What about players closer to home? Wynton Rufer, perhaps? - J man708 (talk) 05:15, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * anything published somewhere for ACT format you put into Round 4 ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:36, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Nope. Not one single thing at all. I got sick of seeing the numbers wrong on the ties. - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * That's not a good reason to add speculation. Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:14, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Have reverted - essentially - and awaiting ACT information. Your edit adding ACT also mucked up the current numbers for NSW Round 5 as the tie numbers are linked (and Yes, they will have to be redone when ACT is announced and known). Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:46, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * can you update Football NSW round 5 matches as quite a number ties from round 4 that have been played and won so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.34.50 (talk) 03:52, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * They're not that hard to do! - J man708 (talk) 10:15, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Boulder City on a dream cup run - bye in round 2, then perth team couldnt be fcuked travelling 600km each-way get them through round 3, then perth team couldnt be fcuked travelling 600km each-way get them through round 4 ; my guess is they could get to the Round of 16 before having to face someone who could be fcuked travelling to Kalgoorlie. Go the mighty Swans. Matilda Maniac (talk) 15:24, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Abbotsford FC - chill out Dude ! either a) the FFA website had it wrong a few weeks ago, or b) most of the game edits are from Mr. 124.189.34.50 who hasnt had a good track record lately (several of those edits have been wrong and i think its often getting the data from live betting sites, as results are often put in within 1-2 minutes of full-time,  rather than from Sportstg.com which is the most 'official' source until there are secondary references available.. If data is wrong, just fix it. Thank You for verifying this very minor mistake.  Matilda Maniac (talk) 20:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough getting the club name wrong, but it's just beyond me how on earth they managed to win in the next round, while being ousted from the comp! I went onto their club's Facebook page and they've seemed to know for a while now! - J man708 (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Please explain WHY you reverted to 2017 edits?
You certainly know how to encourage people to walk away from having any involvement in wikipedia.
 * Because it wasn't formatted correctly at all and looked like a pig's breakfast? All the same info is there, plus the map (which you kinda demanded [why not edit the map yourself if it NEEDS to happen]). How about instead of bitching, you create an account and add to the convo, rather than just editing without showing any sources and then bitching about it being fixed? - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * EDIT - For the record, a new section goes down the bottom of a talk page. Your bitching isn't worth being on top, first and foremost. - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It did not look like a dog's breakfast dickhead. You did not even attempt to explain why you made the change and just deleted it. Now you wonder why I am "bitching"? You acted outside of wikipedia guidelines. I know - I checked. I will be lodging against you. Grow up kid. Your an adult - not 16.
 * Assuming you are an adult. Maybe I just assumed you are. Your actions certainly do not demonstrate maturity.
 * Nice personal attack, you've instantly lost all credibility with that one. Also, for the record, it's spelled "You're an adult". - J man708 (talk) 03:42, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment from a content bystander Just like to remind everyone here to remember WP:CIVIL L3X1 My Complaint Desk 20:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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Correct Dashes
I mean, chill out dude, and save your ammunition for something more important than a good faith edit about dashes from the most frequent editor on the 2017 FFA Cup preliminary rounds article. Even I dont know how to type a long dash from my keyboard. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It just shits me to see one of them out of place, it stands out and looks really tacky and unprofessional. Pet peeve, really. Also, how to type it Tild? CTRL+C; CTRL+V. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 13:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * But, you're right Tildawg. Maybe I need a Wikibreak or something. - J man708 (talk) 13:17, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Use this script and it'll make your life happier :) --SuperJew (talk) 19:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Special Characters > Symbols > En Dash works, too. - J man708 (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I dunno mate, that's a lot of clicks ;) --SuperJew (talk) 20:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Just wondering, in Israel is it illegal for some douchebag to do use loud, heavy machinery (with a lovely slipping fan belt sound) to make tons of noise at 7:20am? - J man708 (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There's noise laws prohibiting loud noises between 14:00-16:00 and 23:00-7:00, so 7:20 it is legal :( My dad actually called the cops this week as our neighbours were having a superloud obnoxious party around midnight. You can get full info here (the Google Translate of it isn't terrible) --SuperJew (talk) 20:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Mid afternoon is a bit interesting. I wonder why those times are added? Also, where I live has a main street and along there we have a few pubs that make a fair deal of noise on Friday and Saturday nights, which isn't so bad. Come to think of it, it's an interesting setup. Kinda like a country town, but in the suburbs. - J man708 (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I reckon the mid afternoon hours are historically from the siesta custom, though I don't know many who still do it in Israel on a regular basis (though I would love too ;)). I think in Spain it is still a very solid and kept tradition. --SuperJew (talk) 21:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * That's the second time I've heard about Siestas in the last 12 hours. Weird! Kinda reminds me of pre-school, afternoon nap time. :D - J man708 (talk) 21:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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A-League Finals
Venues have been officially confirmed for week 1 of the A-League Finals Series should Brisbane Roar finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at Suncorp Stadium on Friday April 21st or Saturday April 22nd due to their 2017 AFC Champions League commitments in Thailand on Wednesday April 26th, should Melbourne City finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at AAMI Park, and should Perth Glory finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at NIB Stadium with dates and kickoff times to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia on Sunday April 16th after round 27 fixtures have finished.

Sydney FC's home knockout semi final has been officially confirmed by Tony Pignata on twitter and from Tom Smithies from Daily Telegraph in Sydney saying that it'll be played definitely be at Allianz Stadium 100% regardless who it is against on either Saturday April 29th (against Melbourne City OR Perth Glory) OR Sunday April 30th (against Brisbane Roar OR Western Sydney Wanderers).

And for Melbourne Victory's home knockout semi final it'll be played at either AAMI Park (against Brisbane Roar OR Perth Glory OR Western Sydney Wanderers) or Etihad Stadium (against Melbourne City) confirmed by David Davutovic from Herald Sun in Melbourne its depending on the opponent Melbourne Victory gets with the dates and kickoff time to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia after final round of the regular season and after week 1 of the A-League Finals results.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.34.50 (talk) 04:08, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

NNSW Round 2 south
im updating this now, unless you are already ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:39, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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Flags on Formula 1 articles
Hello,

There is a longstanding consensus on Formula 1-related articles that the flags should be the flags of the country where the race took place, not based on whatever arbitrary name happens to be used. This has been repeatedly discussed at the Formula One WikiProject.

The difficulty with your system comes partly from WP:FLAG. You propose to use the flag of the Pacific Community for races that have no connection or association with the Pacific Community - that weren't even held in Pacific Community member states. You propose to use the flag of San Marino for races with no association with San Marino. You also run into difficulties with other races not named after countries: you inconsistently use the flag of the United Arab Emirates for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, for example, and do not make any attempt to provide a flag for the Caesars Palace Grand Prix (which could not be the US flag by your system). Kahastok talk 09:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Then could you tell me, (pardon my language), but why the fuck is the 1982 Swiss GP shown as Swiss and not French, ditto the 1997 Luxembourg GP as Luxembourgian and not German? That within itself shows why your system is flawed. List of Formula One Grands Prix - There's a complete lack of consistancy within F1 articles. Also, the Pacific Community issue is the same as Azerbaijan, a non-EU member having the European flag shown on the list page. - J man708 (talk) 10:00, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Abu Dhabi is exactly the same as the Dallas GP. Both use the flag of the country they're in. I didn't change them, it doesn't mean those flags are the best ones to use. - J man708 (talk) 10:03, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You're gonna be undoing IP edits until the cows come home, showing the flags to those two races with a different nationality. Definitely the wrong way to do it. - J man708 (talk) 10:09, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Why did those use the wrong flags? Same reason as the Pacific Grand Prix used the wrong flag after you changed it.  Because somebody changed it to use the wrong flag.  If you feel that the current rule is so terrible, perhaps should go and get a new consensus at WT:F1? Kahastok talk 10:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So, using the French flag for the "Swiss GP" doesn't seem incorrect to you in the slightest? - J man708 (talk) 10:29, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * When the race was held in France, no. Kahastok talk 10:36, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Then should the 1988 German GP be shown as West German, seeing as the Berlin Wall was still a thing? Because showing a German flag there is the same as showing a European flag for the European GP, surely? - J man708 (talk) 12:35, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The West German and modern German flags are identical, so there is no inconsistency as you suggest. You will note that older flags are generally used where appropriate, e.g. for South African Grands Prix. Kahastok talk 14:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , your claim regarding the San Marino Grand Prix is wrong. It was associated with San Marino. Every Sammarinese Grand Prix was organized by the Sammarinese automobile club, not the Italian one. Sammarinese dignitaries always presented the trophies at the podium ceremonies. Similarly the 1982 Swiss Grand Prix, was organized by the Swiss Automobile club. However, because circuit racing was (and still is) forbidden on Swiss territory, they were forced to hold in Dijon just across the border. The situation of the 1997-98 Luxembourg Grands Prix was also very similar. Luxembourg automobile federation. Luxembourg dignitaries (most notably then Hereditary Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg). Even Luxembourg laws (e.g. Tobacco advertisement was allowed, while it was forbidden in Germany). These were much more than simply names for the races.Tvx1 15:46, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


 * What role did the Pacific Community have in the Pacific Grands Prix?


 * Regardless, using the flag of the country in which the race was held is the standing consensus. If we are discussing changing the rule, perhaps that discussion should be had at WT:F1? Kahastok talk 17:34, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably a similar role to the EU having in the European GP (especially seeing as Azerbaijan isn't a member). - J man708 (talk) 02:12, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * If you look up wikipedias internal rules regarding the usage of flagicons, flags should never be used illustratively. Pacific Community flag could never be considered anything but illustrative as the Pacific Community is not involved in the running of sport at all.
 * If you say a Grand Prix should be flagged according only to "what is in it's name" regardless of other circumstances, that is being illustrative and a no-no.
 * Personally, because of the sheer number of times this issue has been brought up over the years, it should be up to anyone who wants to change the consensus to research the previous discussions before bringing up any proposals. The likelihood of any new angle on the discussion being brought to light is near zero. --Falcadore (talk) 08:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It is better to say that it should be up to anyone who wants to change the consensus to research the previous discussions before bringing up any proposals, and that the likelihood of any new angle on the discussion being brought to light will be a function of that research, and that will then be considered at that point in time. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Even if we exclude the continental races (which doesn't make sense, as the EU flag is used in other sports like the Ryder Cup to signify Europe), then we're still left with the issues of San Marino's GP with Italian flags and Luxembourg's GP with the German flag? Surely that's only adding needless ambiguity? Does this mean that for equestrian articles, we should show the 1956 Melbourne Olympics with a Swedish flag, as the equestrian events were held there due to quarantine issues? - J man708 (talk) 12:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The 1956 Olympics were partly held in Melbourne, Australia,  due to the lack of quarantine issues for non-equestrian sports. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So you are saying there should be two standards - the San Marino Grand Prix was always held in Italy but should have the San Marino flag? Italy has hosted many races that are not called the Italian Grand Prix. The Bari Grand Prix, Gran Premio di Mugello, Rome Grand Prix, Grand Prix of Naples, Mediterranean Grand Prix, San Remo Grand Prix‎, Syracuse Grand Prix, Targa Florio‎, Mille Miglia‎, Coppa Acerbo, Messina Grand Prix and so on - and of all of these races all raced and held in Italy, the San Marino Grand Prix is different?
 * Whatabout the Tripoli Grand Prix? Raced in Libya, has a Libyan name, but is an Italian race as Libya was not an independant nation. Libya was a part of Italy. But it has Libya in the name of the race?
 * If it is in Italy it is an Italian race. How can that be confusing? If people are sooooo confused by this, guess what - you click and the link in San Marino Grand Prix and the confusion is very quickly explained. That's how linking is supposed to work.
 * Now go read the previous discussions. All your questions will be answered by those discussions. --Falcadore (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Please stop ordering me to read this and that, otherwise I'll completely stop responding. The Tripoli GP should use the flag that Libya used at the time and if that was the Italian flag, so be it. We show whatever flag the country was using at the time, hence why drivers like Rudolf Caracciola have a damn swastika next to their names. Why should the F1 project differ to the Football project when showing flags? - J man708 (talk) 03:35, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

April 2017
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 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

editing while page is protected
guess we're working on draft space for now... --SuperJew (talk) 23:54, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Nicola Kuleski
I saw you added Kuleski to List of foreign A-League players. I thought he was eligible for Australia too (dual-citizenship) and he has only played for the youth national Macedonia team. --SuperJew (talk) 13:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Seems he was born in Australia. I think he's in the same situation as Jamie Young, no? (should appear on nonvisa-foreigner list on season article with a supped 2, but shouldn't be on List of foreign A-League Players). Also, as he is not senior-contracted, I wonder if he should be on season table. --SuperJew (talk) 13:35, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say he still is. Delete it if you wish. Personally, I feel as though we should change the rules on that page to include players such as him. - J man708 (talk) 13:32, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay I'm deleting it for now, with no prejudice against returning if we do decide to change the rules. Bring up your idea for a rule change (here or probs better on the task force talk page) and we'll hash it out. --SuperJew (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * What do you think about the youth/senior side? I don't think I can recall any other cases like this.. --SuperJew (talk) 13:39, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Jamie Young stands out for me. We show him as English on the season page. - J man708 (talk) 13:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah that I agree and has that precedent. Also makes sense as that is currently the nation he chose to represent. I meant regarding the fact that Kuleski doesn't have a senior contract at Sydney. And if we do think he should be displayed on the table anyways, then should that be for any youth player who has another nationality and has chosen to represent them? --SuperJew (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, you and I had that issue back a while ago about Tim Cahill and being listed as Samoan or Australian when he was between nationalities. I can see the argument for whether they have a senior contract, but on a personal level, I feel if they make a first team debut for the club, they've done enough to be listed on the club's first-team player tables. - J man708 (talk) 14:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll leave it :) And as I said I can't think of other cases like it.. --SuperJew (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Impressive discussion. Matilda Maniac (talk) 15:00, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Shucks, you'll make us blush 😊 --SuperJew (talk) 15:05, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * "Don't blush, baby". For this week only, the enemy of my enemy is my friend ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Things have definitely warmed up a lot around here. I'm sure we've both realised that we've taken shit way too seriously in the past. Now, all we gotta do is get tier numbers for WA in the FFA Cup and all will be right with the world... Until Trump decides to do something that causes the beginning of the end, like nuking Belgium or something. Also SJ, I never saw your EC until now, hence my response sounding off. - J man708 (talk) 21:14, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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 * I wanted to fix up the image and have it as a Vector image, rather than a png, which is why I didn't add it in. If it were deleted, it would actually help me out a little, which is why I didn't add it in just yet. - J man708 (talk) 18:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Feel free to revert then :) --SuperJew (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

2016/17 Serie B
Hei, the reason why I had undo your last edit was simply to restore the league table format in the editing section. The update you had done about the 3 teams being penalized by FIGC was absolutely correct. So, can you simply restore that so that whoever wants to can keep editing it? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoelitaliano (talk • contribs) 21:40, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , just click on the E on the top left corner of the table template and you can edit it from there. Those edits will appear anywhere that table template is used. Alternatively, here's a link. - J man708 (talk) 21:42, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , ok, I did not know that, thanks a lot :-)
 * All good! Also, you can sign your talk page comments by placing four tildes ~ after your comments. - J man708 (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Aussie values
Have you seen this Aussie values guide? --SuperJew (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Living in Adelaide is the ultimate sacrifice? Shit, man... That's harsh! It was good enough for Sia, Ben Folds and even the greatest sportsperson of all time! - J man708 (talk) 13:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha I heard that one line and had to send it to you 😅 --SuperJew (talk) 13:24, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

support
I give off vibes of a Melb V supporter? When did that happen? 😅 I actually don't have a preferred A-League team, but yeah, Collingwood is a strong family tradition. --SuperJew (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I really thought you were! - J man708 (talk) 02:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

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Alice Springs Celtic FC
Just wondering why you removed a lot of my wikipedia page, it may be excessive but is all correct and well referenced and only adds to the information available on the website, I don't understand what harm it did and why you saw necessary to remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan Bowman (talk • contribs) 13:43, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * G'day . A lot of the information placed on the table is either unreferenced (For instance, majority of your players are listed as not even Australian nationals, dude. Hell, there are A-League clubs with less foreigners) or fails notability guidelines. Things like manager info for teams down to Under 14s, injury crisis' and the injuries and players involved and being sponsored by a local brickyard... It's not very notable, to be honest. I mean, it's a little more on the advertising side of things, rather than encyclopedic.
 * I gotta ask, in honest truth, are the players shown all internationals, or are they just listed in the player list with the nationality of their family background or surname? I also removed all the info of the "Round of 64" for the FFA Cup, as the competition isn't known as that, nor does it have 64 clubs remaining at that point. A lot of the sources listed are just WP:Routine, rather than coming from independent sources. These sources don't need to be from The Australian or anything high up, the local paper works fine, it's just that linking SportsTG matchcenter info is a bit standard. The other information that I removed (such as the club song) seems to fail to be very WP:Notable. Don't get me wrong, I support football clubs getting behind their club pages, but it's hardly encyclopedic to include season-by-season paragraphs for the club of the last few years, when they could be summed up concisely. Hell, there are ex-NSL clubs which don't have the level of season-by-season coverage of their times in the top flight than your club has! There's nothing wrong with you personally keeping your club's page up-to-date (especially seeing as we're talking about a local football club, instead of a business, religion, political party, etc.)
 * I'd say that a good page set-up to model your club's page on would be like Hume City FC, where the listed information is about the clubs' establishment and first seasons, rather than being weighted heavily towards WP:Recent events (which is difficult to find older information upon, but by no means impossible!). Keep in mind that newspaper articles are acceptable on Wikipedia, so any newspaper clippings your club has laying around are usable, provided the dates and pages are sourced. Generally it wasn't one big thing that I felt warranted a change on the club's page, but several smaller problems. - J man708 (talk) 15:53, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Konstandopoulos
Is he only signed to the youth team or is it a senior contract? I didn't really understand from the reference, but it seems the NPL only, no? (also can't see a contract length). --SuperJew (talk) 07:39, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No idea. It's safe to assume that he'd be playing first team football for AUFC if he got the call up, anyway. - J man708 (talk) 10:53, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Sparkly Icons again ?
Why, oh why, are we back to introducing all these sparkly icons, as you recently did at W-League (Australia) ? I thought it had been agreed to go away from these and minimise where possible, based upon WP:ICONDECORATION? Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:56, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I put them in because they matched the A-League article which has them in the same table and they also work as a secondary key to the map pictured next to it. - J man708 (talk) 04:57, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Buddy!
@J man708 How are you going buddy!? It's been a very long time since I have been editing, so I thought I'd check in to see how you were doing. How's your health, are you back to running etc.? —Eccy89 (talk) 08:36, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey boss, cheers for your message! I'm still well off of my levels of fitness that I've been at in the past. Have taken up club cricket again and trained tonight which was torturous to say the least! My heart is significantly stronger than it was (it's over 50% efficiency now, whereas it was in the teens at one point!), but the progress is still coming. It's making me feel a bit like a talentless version of Christopher Naumoff. Hahaha. How about you? How's it going on your end of the internet? - J man708 (talk) 12:35, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha, I've forgotten all the shortcuts as it's been that long. Only one i really remembered was the four tildes(~) or whatever they're called. Awww poor Kiki :( Dude, you have to start somewhere. Cricket should be good to ease into. Just be wary of all the extra weight you carry while batting, lol.
 * Mate, you're an Adelaide United fan, yeah? They look like they might go alright this year. And a FFA Cup final to boot (against my Sydney FC!) Hopefully we can get the win though to hold all three trophies! —Eccy89 (talk) 15:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Tildes, I think, yeah. The extra weight might help my ability to smack the ball for four, helping me to avoid running singles! As for AUFC, it's sorta by default as I live here, in saying that the recruitments this season have been a shitload better than last year's failure. As much as a 2-0 loss last night hurt, I genuinely believe that a Champions League spot should be the aim. Of course, Sydney would have to be pretty overwhelming favourites. - J man708 (talk) 03:23, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I reckon City vs Sydney next week might end up pretty interesting match mate. --SuperJew (talk) 06:22, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Should be worth a watch if it's not interrupting my first attempt to avoid a duck in some 5 years or so. - J man708 (talk) 07:33, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you a City or Victory supporter? —�Eccy89 (talk) 10:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm a supporter 💪🏼 --SuperJew (talk) 12:09, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you actually support a team, or are you like Yoshi before he naturally chose City? - J man708 (talk) 12:48, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha, no I don't have a preference in the A-League. Though I think my cousin is tipping towards the City side of Melbourne. --SuperJew (talk) 12:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll decide for you then! You now support Canberra United! - J man708 (talk) 13:01, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Haha reckon they're going to get an A-League team after having a W-League team for ages and an NYL team now? --SuperJew (talk) 13:03, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * To be perfectly honest, this is the first time I haven't actually felt very confident about where the future of the league sits, with the pending FFA/FIFA issues. Initially I really wanted Wollongong Wolves and Canberra United. I also wanted to see Wellington Phoenix eventually given an end date to their endeavour, as I just don't believe they warrant a place in an AFC league. My views have drifted since, and currently I believe that the most stable new club we could bring in would be a Red Bull club. Their demographic seems to fit the Gold Coast rather nicely as a sorta party city. I think they would be willing to keep a club afloat better than many other options. We had Melbourne Heart who desperately needed funds and wouldn't have survived much longer until the CFG came in to the fray. This tells me that maybe we need a much stronger financial connection to the clubs... Can we trust Australian investors? I'm not 100% sure we can these days... - J man708 (talk) 13:11, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Please help me
Please help me move Draft:2019 AFC Champions League to 2019 AFC Champions League, thanks. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 00:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I hope it worked! - J man708 (talk) 13:03, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for moving. But where is history of article, we need remain edit histroy? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:24, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I have 2 suggestions ways for you:
 * You can use CSD#G7 to delete mainspace one and then move draft one to mainspace (that is why I want you a help)
 * Notice an admin to merge edits history. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 13:38, 19 November 2017 (UTC) Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, yeah. I just did it the easiest way I know how. Maybe ask the WP:Project Football group for assistance? I know a few of them are admins and would be able to help out a lot better than I can! - J man708 (talk) 14:23, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You can request on WP:Request for history merge. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No probs. It might be way quicker if you do it though, I'm currently just on Wikipedia on my phone, so filling out forms is a little trickier than on my PC. - J man708 (talk) 14:42, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * History merged by an admin. Thanks anyway. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 09:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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FFA Cup 2018 preliminary rounds - tiers (and tears)

 * Finally found the Northern NSW details - so sorry about reverting one of your posts - i assume wrongly that you were copying from last year as a hypothetical scenario.


 * I think i have a few wrong tiers for QLD. Can you help ? Also, there may have been some name changes, so i didn't want to assume and make red links when they might be existing clubs that have renamed.


 * And why strip out the tiers for VIC ? you're normally the main person in the world that keeps this up-to-date. Entrants from State_League 5 are tier 8, and those from regional leagues are 9 and below. So all the Melbourne-based teams in that list I think i correctly had as tier 8. maybe I had some of the regional tiers wrong.  Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:28, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * All good, I'll check QLD tomorrow. As for Vic, I did what you did with the NNSW and assumed that you copied them from last year. My bad! I'm happy to fix it tomorrow. - J man708 (talk) 14:21, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, great. I can fix some immediately. I'm more interested in the actual fixtures, so will update NNSW over the next day or so when i have time. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Some WA round 2 tiers need refreshing, and i havent got time anymore after setting up the large victorian section. Matilda Maniac (talk) 15:41, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Might do it later tonight. Too busy recovering from a game of cricket consisting of a narrow loss, me making a duck and 30 overs in the field... I need a cider! - J man708 (talk) 08:54, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

2018 ICC wcl division 2
Anil Sah (Nepal) made his List A debut on 12th feb 2018. Rickypunter058 (talk) 12:20, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * And? - J man708 (talk) 02:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

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AFC visa in the A-League
Hi mate :) I saw here that you changed the 5th visa to an AFC specific column. I've heard rumours about it coming in to the A-League but haven't seen it announced/confirmed anywhere for the upcoming season. Do you have a source for it? (also for my interest). Anyways, if it is happening I think we should have a bit of prose about it on the season page, the A-League page, and possibly on List of foreign A-League players. Cheers, --SuperJew (talk) 05:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey SJ, it's been mentioned on some of those panel shows and the like. Also, if you Google "A-League 4+1", you should find it mentioned. Sorry, I'm currently nowhere near my computer otherwise I'd give it a reference. But yeah, having it mentioned on the aforementioned pages is completely understandable. I just changed the table to match the ones in the Japanese and Korean league pages. - J man708 (talk) 10:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I had a look and found this piece from a year-and-a-half ago. You think it's good enough to add as confirmed information based on this? I mean it sounds good, but I'm wondering because of it's age if it's crystalballing. (and I find it a bit odd that I can't find anything more recent). If you find something better let me know (when you have time near your computer of course :)) --SuperJew (talk) 11:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

FIFA World Cup 2018 Group info
Please don't remove this info as it is there in previous articles, for example 2014 FIFA World Cup Group A. The info will be updated when the full match summary is available from the official FIFA website. It will be very helpful if you revert the changes you made.--Anbans 585 (talk) 17:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Relax man, mistakes happen. - J man708 (talk) 17:34, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

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Daniel Arzani
Hi, Please show me where such a consensus was reached. Also FFA CoE is a semi-pro developmental team for teenagers who happen to play in a senior mens competition. Simione001 (talk) 04:07, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I was following what did on the David Browne article. - J man708 (talk) 07:15, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * What's the issue? GiantSnowman 08:02, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey boss, what's the story with Youth careers after a player has played in a senior competition, but then gone back to Youth football? David Browne from PNG and Daniel Arzani from Australia seem to have conflicting info box data. What's the protocol? - J man708 (talk) 10:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Brad McDonald
Why do you keep changing Brad McDonald to a PNG international when he’s never officially played for PNG only 1 friendly in Singapore back in 2014 and does not have his passport for PNG only for Aus? You are incorrectly labelling him as an OFC classification when he is an AFC classification. Why don’t you contact him yourself on instagram Lightworker15 (talk) 20:22, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Because he played a match for the Papua New Guinea national team and accepted call ups to their training squads. Look at the page of someone like Jesse Pinto who is listed as an "Australian-born East Timorese footballer", despite being very much Australian. Brad McDonald is the same, except his would read Papua New Guinean-born Papua New Guinean footballer", which is shortened to "Papua New Guinean footballer". - J man708 (talk) 07:58, 20 October 2018 (UTC)


 * There was no official call ups or official games . It was 1 friendly not regulated by FIFA. Technically he could still play for Australia if he was called up which is why it is premature for you to keep changing his status as PNG international it is incorrect and false. Brad calls himself an Australia  footballer just have a look at his Facebook and Instagram.  Lightworker15 (talk) 19:34, 20 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Chiming in after noticing the back-and-forth on the player's page. My take is this: McDonald did play this friendly against Singapore in 2014. He may or may not have been technically eligible - as you say, there has been some suggestion he doesn't have a PNG passport. However, the Singapore match was in fact an official FIFA friendly - see here. Therefore the description "Papua New Guinean international" is clearly technically correct. As for the OFC / AFC classification, you'd hope that readers can appreciate that players may have multiple nationalities - and the fact that McDonald has Australian eligibility is also discussed in the article itself. I'll have a go at reworking the lede to clarify this but to deny he is a PNG international would be inappropriate. Macosal (talk) 00:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Cheers for the third opinion, Mac. I'm well aware that McDonald is an Australian and has an Australian passport and is currently playing in the Philippines under an Australian passport as an AFC player (haven't seen proof of this, but I'm sure it's the case). But, the issue you're overlooking Lightworker is the key one. He played for them in a friendly and has accepted call ups to join their training camps, hence his photos with George Slefendorfas. We could list him like Jesse Pinto as an "Australian born XXXXXX player", but he was born in Kudijip, PNG. So, despite your protests against calling him a Papua New Guinea international, you've not actually suggested any alternatives which could be considered correct, nor any evidence that supports your claims. Effectively, all you've done is say "I don't like this!" and started an edit war. - J man708 (talk) 00:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:2018–19 A-League table
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:2018–19 A-League table. Hhkohh (talk) 13:42, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the ping, Hhkohh. I've responded on the template page. If you want to take it up to the WikiProject Football page, I honestly wish you the best of luck with it. I've tried to bring things up there and it's near-on impossible :( - J man708 (talk) 13:52, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Kit body Melbourne Victory FFA Cup 2015.png
ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

The City icon
I don't want an edit war but I don't think you've offered any good reason to keep the existing icon. I've opened a discussion on the Oz football task force and invited contributions from others if you'd like to participate. Global-Cityzen (talk) 08:35, 24 October 2018 (UTC)


 * "So if I cant get my icon, no one gets an icon", to misquote Syndrome.    Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:15, 26 October 2018 (UTC)


 * "You get an icon! You get an icon! You get an icon!", to misquote Oprah - J man708 (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Module talk: Sports results
You are invited to join the discussion at Module talk: Sports results. Hhkohh (talk) 14:33, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

November 2018

 * Removed hypocritical diatribe* Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:13, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Walter, perhaps you should acquaint yourself with WP:NOTPOINTy? For a self-proclaimed top of contributor, you sure do have a lot of flaws! - J man708 (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I am quite familiar with it. I was simply trying to explain why edit summaries are useful. If you don't want to be a useful contributor, that's up to you. Play by your own rules. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:25, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Then please abide by it? If you want to be technical and link guidelines, I can too. If you want to solve this issue, perhaps take a step back and realise that you're waaaaaay too defensive and that perhaps a little criticism can be helpful? I understand that you've been around for a while (as have I), but that's no reason to push the envelope toward edit-warring and arguing to this ridiculous extent. - J man708 (talk) 01:28, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Consider this a warning...
At Repatriation General Hospital, Daw Park you are clearly edit warring; even if you believe the person you are edit warring with is "more wrong" than you are, that doesn't justify also edit warring. Your behavior is certainly blockable, please make different choices in how to deal with disagreements in the future. -- Jayron 32 16:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Jayron, I'm happy to change the way I go about stubborn editors, I tried letting them know why their edits weren't fit for Wikipedia, but it became clear to me that they weren't going to stop, so I figured I'd send a message to get someone to mediate it. - J man708 (talk) 16:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)