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FFA Cup 2019
match schedule - New South Wales, Round 2: March 12-13 Round 3: March 26-27 Round 4: April 9-10 Round 5: April 23-24 Round 6: May 7-8 Round 7: May 21-22

match schedule - South Australia, Round 2: March 29-31 Round 3: April 19-22 Round 4: May 3-5 Round 5: May 21-22 Round 6: June 4-5 Round 7: June 22-23

match schedule - Tasmania, Round 3: March 9-11 Round 4: April 19-22 Round 5: May 11-12 Round 6: May 25-26 Round 7: June 10

match schedule - Victoria, First Qualifying Round: February 8-11 Second Qualifying Round: February 15-18 Round 1: February 22-25 Round 2: March 1-4 Round 3: March 8-11 Round 4: April 16-22 Round 5: April 30-May 8 Round 6: May 21-29 Round 7: June 11-19

match schedule - Western Australia, Round 2: March 9-10 Round 3: April 6-7 Round 4: April 22 Round 5: May 18-19 Round 6: June 3 Round 7: June 15-16

source - FFA Cup website: http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-10664-0-0-0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:B801:2878:5700:648D:94D2:A990:9240 (talk) 03:11, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Uh... Thanks? - J man708 (talk) 07:41, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 2019 FFA Cup preliminary rounds article created ! I'm having an extended wikibreak from early February onwards (other life and study priorities) so i wont be a main editor on the FFA Cup this year.    Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:47, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Cheers Tilds. I'm just at a loss as to when people put random information on my talk page and expect me to jump to what they're hinting at. No "Please" or "Thank you", just "Here's some info, make me the fucking page I want, slave." This shit is beyond tiring. - J man708 (talk) 13:43, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ASSUME GOOD FAITH ! At no point did this User request or order any of the things that you inferred. Just so happens i decided tonight to make the page anyway (given first Victorian matches are only a week away), and then came to your talk page to see his post. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * So thank you, User:2402:B801:2878:5700:648D:94D2:A990:9240, I went to the link that you sourced, and I improved Wikipedia. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Gah. You'll be the death of me, Tildawg! Cheers for getting the 2019 article in order. Have they announced that any state federation is gonna lose a qualifying spot for Western Melbourne this season? I'd argue the case for NNSW losing a spot. Also, I think SA would have a claim for a second spot. - J man708 (talk) 13:55, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * qualifying spot for Western Melbourne this season: Good point.   "Here's a request, go and do the fucking research I want, slave."
 * SA have 2 qualifying spots this year anyway, stop complaining. If pushed, I'd also go for NNSW losing a spot. Matilda Maniac (talk) 14:03, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You know as well as I do that there's a difference between asking someone a question and dumping raw information onto someone's feed and expecting results! Also, we shouldn't have to keep earning this damn second spot through the NPL! Round of 64 incoming, maybe? - J man708 (talk) 14:06, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Two qualifying spots would go over this year and next. If they keep the NPL Champion with a qualifying spot, I would go for NNSW and WA both losing out, or perhaps NNSW and NSW both losing out . Matilda Maniac (talk) 14:13, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Football Victoria facebook page will be broadcast the 2019 FFA Cup live draws from Victoria live streamed on the following dates Q1 & Q2 draws: Monday February 4th, Round 1 draw: Monday February 18th, Round 2 draw: Monday February 25th, Round 3 draw: Monday March 4th, Round 4 draw: Tuesday March 12th, Round 5 draw: date To Be Confirmed, Round 6 draw: date To Be Confirmed, Round 7 draw: date To Be Confirmed, source: https://www.facebook.com/footballvic/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:B801:2878:5700:8179:6387:B021:CCEB (talk) 06:17, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Again, what does this have to do with me? - J man708 (talk) 06:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * THE FANTASTIC HISTORY OF BEING A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO FFA CUP ARTICLES. YOU DA BOMB !
 * * 2018 FFA Cup preliminary rounds : 162 Edits
 * * 2017 FFA Cup preliminary rounds : 490 Edits
 * * 2016 FFA Cup preliminary rounds : 731 Edits
 * * 2015 FFA Cup preliminary rounds : 929 Edits
 * * 2014 FFA Cup preliminary rounds : 102 Edits
 * * 2018 FFA Cup : 150 Edits
 * * 2017 FFA Cup : 131 Edits
 * * 2016 FFA Cup : 100 Edits
 * * 2015 FFA Cup : 149 Edits
 * * 2014 FFA Cup : 142 Edits
 * * FFA Cup : 108 Edits
 * YOU DA BOMB ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:36, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Jesus, that's upsetting! - J man708 (talk) 13:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That's +3,000 edits, self-appointed slave. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * and those edits dont include all of your contributions to the Talk pages !
 * Central and North Queensland guaranteed one of the 21 slots for the final now. So there's a clear strategy for what South Australia needs to do to get an extra slot - GET FLOODED.  Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:26, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 * A bit harsh! - J man708 (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Would having forest fires work too? --SuperJew (talk) 13:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * How about giving a spot in the cup for the city which reached 46'C a few weeks back? - J man708 (talk) 03:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 * C'mon mate, at least help me out with a link ;)
 * Um, Coober Pedy have a soccer team? --SuperJew (talk) 06:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

" Keep it consistent with other seasons" ?? Perhaps more important to change the table for other seasons? This year is different as one team from CNQ is guaranteed a spot; this is different to previous years. Also, why Area, when it is based on Federations ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Do whatever, man. I don't care anymore. I'm sick of trying to make things match in each state/Australian football article and being questioned about seemingly everything. - J man708 (talk) 13:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry you feel that way. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm just way past it, dude. I don't edit even a tenth as much as I used to and it's really no longer enjoyable for me. I don't mean any malice to you. I'm just sick of feeling constantly under scrutiny, by making seemingly small edits. - J man708 (talk) 13:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you should pursue an avenue in soccer articles in Wikipedia where there are larger gaps, such as with women's teams (no articles documenting women's NPL) or with referees. Or pursue your other interests outside of Wikipedia, and focus on things that are enjoyable for you. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Made the change just now to some of the tables. I note that only 3 of the previous 5 years even had a table, so I will make those for 2014 and 2015 this evening. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's why I've been editing things like surfing and touring car racing articles. Far less people to have differing styles and things. As I said yesterday, no malice intended (I'm sure you're smart enough to know the signs of someone feeling burnt out) - J man708 (talk) 23:15, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I remember you ranting about South Australian teams only getting one slot in the Round of 32 rather than two, but any chances of that now evaporate with two new A-League clubs coming in. NSW surely will lose 1, but which one will be the second? (Qld? NNSW? WA?) Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:54, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I wonder that myself. My guess would be Queensland. How about yours? - J man708 (talk) 03:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it should be Qld, but I think it will be WA that misses out. Anyway, none of our NPL sides are anywhere near as good as the major ones in NPLV and NPLNSW {which are knocking on the door of promotion to A-League-II} and cant really compete at that level anyway. Our record over 5 years is W1  L10   F6   A30, with a single 1-0 home win against Canberra Olympic.  Hardly inspiring !  Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:48, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the argument isn't great for WA, especially now that SA is closing in on the number of entrants that WA has initially. - J man708 (talk) 04:23, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * the article 2019 FFA Cup variously states 737 or 739 entrants, not the 740 you just posted to FFA Cup. and it think i saw something in one of the FFA websites on the FFA Cup stating 737. I haven't the capacity to do this, but can you please check which is right ? It always seems to be hard to add up to the total. Matilda Maniac (talk) 02:31, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking and improving this. Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, may I know why my edits were reversed back in the article One-Test wonder? Anirudh Gangavaram (talk) 20:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Because just like this query, it’s not formatted very well, rather just tacked onto the end of the previous paragraph. It also contained grammatical errors and was slanderous towards an umpire. Why’s the onus here on me to show why it’s not worthy of being in an encyclopedia? - J man708 (talk) 02:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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 * I'm laughing at how unnecessary this notice was. A quick Google search would quickly show you this info, and you could just add a reference instead of templating a contributing user and lowering their motivation. You clearly also did that as you re-added the information yourself 15 minutes later. --SuperJew (talk) 17:20, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I didn’t have the time to place the source up and when I got back online, I’d forgotten. Probably would’ve been easier just to Google it, as SJ said! - J man708 (talk) 00:54, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * But lets instead focus on the fact that Meredith joining Glory is a major boost to their defensive stocks (Djulbic probably still out with his ACL) - and move on with our lives ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Really MM? Adding unsourced content? ;) (And sounds from the press release about Djulbic re-signing that he's pretty much over the injury - more likely Spira isn't returning) --SuperJew (talk) 06:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

2019–20 Championnat National 2
Hey J man708!

There was consensus within the last two years at WP:Footy to put league tables using Module:Sports Table inline rather than in separate templates. Unfortunately I can't find it in the archive. Pinging who I believe was involved.

Would you mind reverting back to the status quo, please, until this is cleared up? Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 12:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Gricehead, thank you for the notification. the original thread is here, with subsequent discussions here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, ... Frietjes (talk) 13:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * What are we meant to do with pages like this one, where the segment relies on a template? - 2019–20 in French football - J man708 (talk) 15:17, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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FFA Cup 2020
match schedule - New South Wales, Round 2: March 14-15 Round 3: March 24-25 Round 4: April 7-8 Round 5: April 21-22 Round 6: May 5-6 Round 7: May 19-20

LINK - New South Wales: https://footballnsw.com.au/competitions/ffa-cup/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:B801:2878:5700:717E:6D20:2DA1:7370 (talk) 12:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

match schedule - Northern NSW, Round 1: February 15-March 15 Round 2: February 22-March 29 Round 3: February 29-April 15 Round 4: March 14-April 29 Round 5: March 21-May 20 Round 6: June 6 Round 7: June 8-10

LINK - Northern NSW: https://footballfarnorthcoast.com.au/ffa-cup-nominations-open-for-2020-3/

match schedule - Queensland, Round 2 (SEQ): February 21-23 Round 3 (SEQ): February 28-March 1, Round 7: June 5-7

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match schedule - Tasmania, Round 3: March 7-9 Round 4: April 10-13 Round 5: May 1-3 Round 6: May 22-24 Round 7: June 8

LINK - Tasmania: https://footballfedtas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/NPL2020.pdf

match schedule - Victoria, First Qualifying Round: February 1-9 Second Qualifying Round: February 14-17 Round 1: February 28-March 2 Round 2: March 6-9 Round 3: March 13-16 Round 4: April 7-13 Round 5: April 21-29 Round 6: May 19-27 Round 7: June 16-24

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match schedule - Western Australia, Round 1: February 29-March 1 Round 2: March 14-15 Round 3: March 28-29 Round 4: April 13 Round 5: May 16-17 Round 6: June 1 Round 7: June 13-14

LINK - Western Australia: https://footballwest.com.au/2020-season-calendar/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:B801:2878:5700:717E:6D20:2DA1:7370 (talk) 12:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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Could you explain why you unilaterally changed the parameters on the template page before talk-page consensus was reached? MattSucci (talk) 15:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I changed it back to what it was prior to the discussion, ie the status quo. - J man708 (talk) 22:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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WTCC/WTCR
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Regarding split tables for NPL
Hi JMan: I think that the three federations that are splitting NPL competitions mid-way through the season are each going to be treated differently. Whilst you are advocating for a split along the lines of 2018–19 Scottish Premiership - the K League 1 provides a good example too : 2019 K League 1 shows the split format, whereas the current 2020 K League 1 does not because the split has not yet occurred. This is the reason for the reverts today - the timing and not the format. Matilda Maniac (talk) 08:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Capital Football are adopting this structure after round 7.
 * Northern NSW are doing a seeded draw after round 9, so that's a bit different - maybe the best format there is not one split table, but 2 additional tables like NPL2 last year divided into east and west conferences.
 * WA also require a separate split table I think, as the second round stage the teams in the two groups have their points reset to 0. WA will have a single round robin of 5 matches to determine the Champion, there will be no Premier, and there will be a finals series at the end that crowns the finals series winner as the Finals Series Winner. Weird.
 * Yeah, I get your point - No probs here. Just as long as the end result shows the relevant splits, I’m cool with it. - J man708 (talk) 14:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

NNSW
BTW - The NNSW NPL may be okay in one table, akin to the madness of the MLS, where teams play the other conference once, while playing clubs in their division three times. Also, as the season was planned to be all in one and it’s presumably a one-off for Covid, I’d advocate for the NNSW being in one single table. - J man708 (talk) 14:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, agree with your point about NNSW.Matilda Maniac (talk) 21:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Upon further review, NNSW will be okay in one table. Essentially its just a draw to see which teams play each other twice and which once. So single table is still appropriate. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:48, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I realised that same thing about an hour ago. Hahaha - J man708 (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * However, I have now changed my mind and edited accordingly (at 2020 NNSWNPL). It infers extra information, in that you can see which 5 teams a particular team is definitely not playing. and also each week two teams will have a Bye. I also take my lead now from the reference provided by Football NNSW, who explicitly state that "Now, the league has been split into two pools of five." Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * For me though, an important point to note is that the overall 5th placer gains a finals berth, so I think a single table should be used here. - J man708 (talk) 00:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * So the green shading gets updated each week if necessary depending on who the top 5 are. Same as the shading/comments edits that are done with wellington Phoenix in the A-League table when they're near the top of the table but cant be shaded for participation in ACL. Well, pretty much the same thing IMHO. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * True, but my issue lies more with the fact that points are carried over and that the teams aren’t split by position, but into two pools purely for the fact that this is a season with teams playing some others once or twice. For me, it’s sorta like splitting the AFL ladder amongst the teams which play each other once or twice. - J man708 (talk) 11:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The rhetoric now on the NNSW NPL website, and their links to the ladder, indicate that the teams aren’t considered split by position, and therefore is like what you are saying about similarity to AFL. Therefore i have changed the format back to a non-split table. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:34, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Jake Brimmer
Why are you edit-warring to remove sourced information? The score of the match is not essential but adds colour and prompts the memories of the readers who saw the match, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:12, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok so you've changed it but it reads much the same to me, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 00:14, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The copyedit now certainly reads better. Note that Wikipedia does NOT have to be written by a native English speaker. Copyeditors improve the text, but need to do so without being WP:POINTY. Matilda Maniac (talk) 01:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

November 2020
Hi there - Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. You didn't provide a source for your changes to the Scott Wara article, and I couldn't find one either. If you have a reliable source please let me know and we can change the article. Please let me know if you have any questions. GiantSnowman 10:00, 4 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Information orange.svg Please do not add or change content, as you did at Scott Wara, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. GiantSnowman 10:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Nuvola apps important.svg Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Scott Wara, you may be blocked from editing.
 * Your editing is becoming WP:POINTY; this is something that I note warned you about last month. Please take a deep breath and cease your disruption. GiantSnowman 16:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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GGPoker draft review request
Hello J man708, I'm looking for editors who have some experience with Poker related pages, and I see that you've made a few edits to the WSOP page. I submitted an article on GGPoker via Articles for Creation a little while ago, but it was declined. It has since been edited and I was hoping to get some feedback to ensure that it meets Wikipedia's standards, or if it does not, how it might do so. Full disclosure, I'm employed by NSUSLab, GGPoker's platform developer, so I have a financial conflict of interest which is why I submitted the article via AfC. Thanks! Chris H (GGPoker) (talk) 07:26, 16 December 2022 (UTC)