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Black (code)
What was the content of that article? The topic, as it is listed at Black Code, seems to be one that is notable. Ryan Vesey 18:47, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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Bilgisayar koruma yazılımları ve Antivirüsler tarafından tanınmayan ve algılanamayan, bilgisayardaki yazılım ve donanımları kullanarak, bilgisayarı kullanan kişinin istemi dışında , bilgisayarı kontrol edebilen yazılımın kodlama yöntemi olarak adlandırılmaktadır İşletim sistemini kullanıyor olmaları ve hiçbir Truva atı, stealer , trojan özelliği göstermemeleri , host dns veya IP adress izi bırakmamaları bu yazılım kodlama yönteminin hangi boyutlara ulaştığının göstergesi olarak kabul edilir, kodlama yeteneği üst seviyelere ulaşmış coderler tarafından yazılır Black code yöntemi ile yazılan yazılımlar, son derece tehlike arz etmektedirler
 * No context would probably have been a more appropriate csd criteria-- Jac 16888 Talk 20:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It was Turkish, but was not about the code used during World War II. Thanks for supplying that Ryan Vesey 20:41, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, something about a computer virus I believe-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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西洋接骨木
Please userfy 西洋接骨木 because I want to use information in that article to expand the article on zh-wiki --''TheChampionMan1234 22:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅, User:TheChampionMan1234/西洋接骨木, although it doesn't look particularly extensive-- Jac 16888 Talk 16:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Merging Porul ilakkanam to Tamil grammar
I have proposed that Porul ilakkanam be merged to Tamil grammar. Since you recently discussed the articles at Articles for deletion/Porul ilakkanam, I would welcome any comments you may have on the proposed merge. The discussion is at Talk:Tamil grammar. Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 04:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Libamáj

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Hi Jac,

could you copy over the contents of Libamáj to hu:Libamáj (or send it to me if you prefer)? That was the intention of the author, she just got lost between the language versions. Thanks! --Tgr (talk) 09:07, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Was about to userfy it for you when I realised it is also a copyvio of, so I doubt hu:wiki would appreciate it-- Jac 16888 Talk 09:33, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

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I mentioned you in a discussion at WP:RSN
Link here. Churn and change (talk) 16:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Zebra and snake
Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.236.134.120 (talk) 15:36, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Francis Giraud translation into English
Please help me understand this. I ran across the English Francis Giraud, and it's nothing but a one-sentence stub. The French Wikipedia: Francis Giraud (although I don't read French) is listed as the corresponding article, and seems to have a more fleshed out biography. When I put this up for translation, you deleted the request as "Nothing to translate". Please help me understand what happened here. I was only trying to get the English translation of the French article onto the English page of that name. — Maile (talk) 15:22, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:PNT is where articles are listed if somebody has created them on the English Wikipedia in a non-english language, it's is not the place for requesting translations from other Wikipedia. The instructions for that are detailed in the expand tag you added-- Jac 16888 Talk 15:34, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Have you seen THIS?
Oh, can't believe it, but we must find a way to stop this, its very tragic ''TheChampionMan1234 06:21, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

USKANA2013
RE: the deletion of the Uskana 2013 article

i wanted to briefly explain that the "Uskana 2013" is a civic initiative of a community from the city of Kicevo in Macedonia. the page was meant to briefly present the nature of the initiative and it's activities. Nonetheless, it was published by mistake in the english subpages, while the content was in albanian. And i wasn't able to change to the albanian subpages.Voice13 (talk) 09:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The albanian and english Wikipedias are seperate entities, you need to go to here-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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You deleted my page, Indonesia Mencari Pemimpin, WHY ???
You deleted my page, Indonesia Mencari Pemimpin, WHY ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Putrantos (talk • contribs) 17:56, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Because it was overly promotional and it wasn't in English, this being the English language wikipedia-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Colombian authors
Please restore the Gonzalo Arango Arias and Fanny Buitrago articles. These are prominent Colombian authors. You should also consult wp:before. Thank you. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:51, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You also need to restore the redirects that have been lost as a result of your actions. Please feel free to add additional content and sources as you feel appropriate. Here's a Google Books search result for Fanny Buitrago http://www.google.com/search?q=fanny+buitrago+&tbm=bks&tbo=1. You'll notice that she is covered in several encyclopedias of literature and easily warrants inclusion. Arias is also notable as you'd have realized had you been more diligent in your administrative actions.
 * Thank you for helping get these back up so they can be improved and expanded. I'd prefer to spend my time doing constructive work on the encyclopedia rather than discussing errant and unconcstructive actions such as yours. So in the future I hope you'll just ask if you have any questions or suggestions for me, or are concerned about whether a subject is notable. Even if I don't agree to do things your way, it's certainly inappropriate for you to violate the rules and delete articles when you aren't happy with how complete they are when created. Because of your improper actions I have no way of making improvements and am instead wasting my time here. If you don't like the way I do things then it's best to ignore my work and focus elsewhere. There are others who are happy to collaborate and work together to improve the encyclopedia collaboratively. Candleabracadabra (talk) 02:07, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Page deleted, please help
Hi my name is Nikki Harkin, you appear to have deleted mine and Charlotte Murphy's pages about the Papez Circuit, we followed the deletion link and it told us that it is because we are non-existing users, we have had the email sent to us about verifying our accounts and we have both done that, so we were wondering how we are supposed to become 'existing' users? I am asking you this because we are both university students and as part of one our modules we are to take part in the APS's Wikipedia initiative and substantially edit a page and we are to be assessed on this (which if our page has been deleted we can't be assessed on it) Please can you help us, it would be very much appreciated! Nikki Harkin (talk) 12:53, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * As I already informed Charlotte, the pages did not belong to users because they had a plus in the middle, unlike your usernames and unlike the duplicate pages you created at User:Nikki Harkin/sandbox-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:42, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

How do we add information into a sandbox without creating a page with a plus in the middle. Please could you give us clear instructions on how to create a page properly. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlotte Murphy (talk • contribs) 20:55, 20 November 2012 (UTC) You deleted my account and have justified your actions by saying my user account has a + in the name. How do i delete this? Please can you give me clear instructions as to how i can become an existent user. Thank you. Charlotte Murphy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlotte Murphy (talk • contribs) 20:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * By not adding a plus when you type the page name? As I've already said, the page already exists at User:Charlotte Murphy/sandbox, you were the one who created it-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * To clarify then, your user name is User:Charlotte Murphy. Any subpage you create of that must therefore begin User:Charlotte Murphy/ followed by the name of the sandbox page. If you use something different, for example User:Charlotte+Murphy, the system will believe the subpage belongs to a user called Charlotte+Murphy, since no such user exists the page is therefore "ownerless"-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I didn't add a plus sign when typing the page name, all i did was click on my sand box and copy an assignment i had been working on into it. I have no idea how to create a new sandbox without a plus sign in it, when i look through the APS wikipedia initiative website it appears my name is Charlotte+Murphy, however if i just sign in straight to wikipedia i do not have this problem. Hpw can i create another sandbox without Charlotte+Murphy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlotte Murphy (talk • contribs) 09:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't see how I can explain this any clearer. You created User:Charlotte+Murphy/sandbox, which is the page I deleted, and which will now need to be deleted again. You also created User:Charlotte Murphy/sandbox is the page i left. Can you see the difference? That's all there is to it. If you want to create another sandbox all you need to do is type "User:Charlotte Murphy/example name" into the search box, and when it says page not found, click "start the page"-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:16, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Your comment did not help and was not kind.
Thank you for at least making an attempt to explain why traces of your pages remain on google indefinitely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.12.40 (talk) 15:21, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You are obviously referring to this discussion. And I have to say that your behaviour here is not very helpful and friendly either. It has been explained to you multiple times that it is generally not possible to remove the log entry about a deleted site from our servers, and also your last attempt to delete a discussion about it is still archived and you have been told that it will presumably remain visible for quite a long time. That said, I agree with the user Astronaut who commented: "With many people clamouring FOR a Wikipedia article, it is not encouraging that when one is written and then deleted, the author (or maybe the subject) of the article then complains that it is insulting that they can still find a trace of the deletion. If they had taken the time to improve the article, I'm sure they wouldn't now be here complaining." By they way, modifying other editor's main user pages as you did here is against WP:Wikipedia policy. I would advise you to let this case rest. The less you write on Wikipedia, the less of it will be visible on Google and other search engines. De728631 (talk) 16:34, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * De has said every thing I would need to say, I'll just add that if you fail to read the instructions before undertaking something, you can't blame somebody else if it doesn't turn out correctly-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Date articles
You wrote: "If you believe these day lists need to be more globally focused, the way to do so is to add more names to the list from other locations, not by removing names that you believe to be lesser-known, in your opinion. The idea behind these lists has always been that if a subject is notable enough for an article, they go on the list, the fact that year in music lists do it differently is irrelevant. Of course Wikipedia has something of an American bias, so there will be more western subject articles, hiding them doesn't solve the problem. I suggest you revert yourself and instead attempt to fix the real issue here".
 * I don't agree, either that "the way to do so is to add more names" (which would simply result in an over-long list) or that "the idea behind these lists has always been..." No, it hasn't.  The idea is to include a representative sample of events, births, deaths, etc.  What the article definitely should not become is a list of every American ever born on this date who happens to have a wikipedia article.  It's true that my judgement is subjective, but then so is yours. I made a point of removing British people who are very little known in the UK, even though they may satisfy the wikipedia criteria for having an article about them.  I wish I were better equipped to do the same for the US entries, but at least I have a good idea which of them are internationally-known.  And I'll go so far as to say that, if a person's wikipedia article has been tagged for notability or lack of references, they definitely should not be included in any year or date article.  Deb (talk) 14:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If the notability of the subject is in doubt, then nominate it for deletion. These lists are a list of notable people born on that date, not a list of extra-notable people, to pick and choose specific people based your own criteria is to apply your own bias to the list-- Jac 16888 Talk 14:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify? Are you suggesting that it is appropriate for every person with a wikipedia article to be included in the list of births for the date they were born?  If not, how would you ensure that it is a representative sample? Deb (talk) 14:56, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe they should. I believe this to be the best option, because there is no way to have a "representative sample" of people born that day. You can't choose the "most notable" from every profession, or the "most notable" overall, or one randomly from every country or any other such method, it's simply unfeasible. The simple fact is this, it has long being the case with these articles that the only criteria for inclusion is to have an article. If you believe this needs to change then you need to seek consensus to change the way these articles are handled cross wiki, consensus which you do not currently have. Until you have this consensus your changes are inappropriate-- Jac 16888 Talk 15:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I think your suggested solution is totally impracticable and I'm not aware of any policy that suggests differently. There is a difference between saying that you should include only people who have an article and that you should include all people who have an article. Deb (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We'll I've yet to see you suggest a better solution other than removing the people you personally believe to be lesser known, including apparently the star of some dozen movies and 7 years of an internationally known tv show. The policy that applies is WP:NOTABILITY, as I've already said we do not have levels of notability, either they have an article or they don't, and the same applies to these lists, as it has done for years. Nothing you have said so far suggests it should be different, nor have you in fact given any real argument that it should be other than a percived lack of world focus-- Jac 16888  Talk 19:36, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure I explained above that I'm not necessarily au fait with the relative notability of US celebrities. Ask 100 people in the UK and I doubt you'll find one who's heard of him, but of course that doesn't mean he shouldn't be in the list - by all means, put him back.  It doesn't follow that every minor American personality should be listed. Clearing the decks a bit is, I think, a good way to proceed, since what tends to happen is that newcomers see a list of minor celebrities and think "Oh, that person's in there.  I'll put my favourite TV presenter/actor/baseball player in there as well."  The lists have not always been like this nor were they ever meant to be a full list of every US person who is moderately well-known.  I know that we can't make them perfect but we can at least try to improve them.  Deb (talk) 20:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I am from the UK, I just don't let it have any bearing on my editing. Evan Almighty? Keira Knightleys latest film? Or you only need to watch Dave for an hour or so to see an advert for The Office (US). And all you did was prove my point, (As well as ignoring my actual comment) your viewpoint is entirely your own, by attempting to remove an American bias, you have just added your own. Unless you can devise an actual valid criteria your argument is a waste of time-- Jac 16888 Talk 22:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I never said or suggested that you were American. I still stand by my comments above.  I know that if I went out into my workplace and asked 100 people "Who is Steve Carell?" the huge majority of them would have absolutely no idea.  The real problem is what's sometimes known as "recentism".  See WP:10YT.  You only have to look at the list to see that.  For 16 August deaths, we've got:


 * one entry each for 1991-1993
 * one for 1995
 * one for 1997
 * three for 2002 (approximately when wikipedia took off)
 * one for 2003
 * three for 2004
 * six for 2005
 * three for 2006
 * three for 2007
 * four for 2008
 * two for 2010
 * nine for 2012
 * Looking at the births for August 15, you get the skewed nationality bias as well, because most of the later births are celebrities from the world of sport or entertainment. So you've got:


 * three for 1981, 2 of them American
 * four for 1982, 3 of them American
 * one for 1983
 * one for 1984 (American)
 * four for 1985, one of them British (and known only for her role in a teen soap)
 * one for 1986 (British)
 * one for 1987
 * two for 1988
 * three for 1989, 2 of them American
 * four for 1990, 1 of them American
 * Yes, okay, maybe many of these are well known to young people in the UK and the USA, and you could argue that this is appropriate because these are the people who mostly consult wikipedia. But do they really consult wikipedia to find out what they already know? In fact, of the 217 births listed (quick manual count) for 15 August, 132 are for people who are still alive!  I think we should address this issue and try to get a better mix.  I've already agreed with you that it's difficult to do, but we could at least attempt to achieve some level of consistency. Adding every biography article on wikipedia to the list is not going to achieve anything except to make the list impossible to browse. Deb (talk) 10:54, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You continue to skirt my main point, inclusion of everyone is preferable to a flawed inclusion criteria, so unless you're able to provide a geninuely useful criteria, you're just wasting my time-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've answered that point about 3 times now. I'd have preferred to work constructively with you, but we'll just have to continue to differ. Deb (talk) 18:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * PS. "Criteria" is a plural. Deb (talk) 18:20, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Where? What is your criterion (btw pointing out grammatical errors is hardly the way to win an argument) that can be applied cross wiki, to every similar article, that defines who and what can be included in these lists, in a way that is neutral and not time/location biased, bearing in mind this would need to be applied to at least 365 articles (if not more if you wanted to include various types year articles) and that it would need to be rigously policed to prevent people being inconsiderate and wanting to help by adding a missing name?-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Jackie Kong
I am Jackie Kong. Stop messing with my page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackiekong (talk • contribs) 18:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is not your page, it is a page about you, and we don't allow people to manipulate pages about themselves anymore than we allow people to make the disruptive edits which were being made. Had you simply reported the vandalism we would of course taken immediate action about it, making legal threats solves nothing-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

request for review
Respected sir, I sincerely request you to review the comment 'crufty' for my earlier edit on 'Vyadeshwar' page. Actually sir, I have studied this topic in depth and have entered only relevant material on web. (even including the audio file) Due to the server problem, I had to enter and remove the contents number of times otherwise all the information is true and authentic. If you suggest, I will delete the references from the 'WIKI' sourses but it would be great if you retain my earlier edit on this page. Thanking you and waiting for your positive reply Sincerely, Gsmodak (talk) 02:02, 21 December 2012 (UTC) G. S. Modak.

Request from Gsmodak
Respected sir, This is continuation of my earlier request. I am Asst. Professor in an Engineering college and have deeply studied the area near Guhagar. One thing that I wanted to convey to you is all the work that I have additionally uploaded on 'Vyadeshwar' page, is my original work after thorough study. So please accept all these contents without any hesitation. The contents in 'Devnagri Indian' script are in the form of Photographs. So they will not affect 'English' nature of our great encyclopedia I suppose. Please share your views as well. Thanking you in anticipation. Sincerely yours Gsmodak (talk) 02:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC) Gsmodak

Yes Sir
Respected Sir, First of all thank you for responding to my request.... You have said the right thing that Pedia is not a travel guide. But after going through the pages 'Trimbakeshwar Shiva Temple' and 'Kashi Vishwanath Temple' on wikipedia, wherein the pictures of adjacent street view, picture of 'Gyanvapi well', which according to the hindu mythology the sink of original lord Kashi Vishwanath, I thought of adding only the related and relevant pictures on the web. The fact is: even tough we say that it is a myth, we can actually see the chipped off main deity and the resemblance between the main deity and its incarnations which are mentioned on the page. Definitely there is a big history behind it and my aim was to bring forward the truth in short so that people will study the fact in more depth and will modify the page accordingly. My aim is surely not to project this page as a travel guide sir. Even I have documentary evidences for the stuff. One major reference I have already added in the reference list at No:13, which is a running publication here in Indian region called as Western Maharashtra and I will definitely add similar other references as well. I assure you that the stuff added on the page will help he concerned people to study the History in depth and I am sure that with more documentary evidences coming up, the page will get improved content wise. If you find it suitable, Big picture in Devnagari script at the end added in section 'Vyadeshwar Mantra' can be removed but it would be better if we retain the so called 'Vyadeshwar aarti' picture on the page. It has 'Audio' evidence that is added on same page. The chanting is done everyday minimum three times in the temple and I have actually recorded it. You will find similar devnagari script pictures on number of other informative pages e.g 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vithoba_Punadalik_Tukaram_Dnyaneshwar.jpg' picture on the wiki page 'Maharashtra' or page on god 'Vithoba' So you please suggest what you find suitable, but it would be better if you retain the stuff. It would be helpful for the further study in this connection. Sorry for consuming your precious time. Before I stop, I would like to give my formal introduction, I am a post graduate in Mechanical Engineering, currently pursuing PhD from IIT(Indian Institute of Technology) Bombay(Mumbai) and working as Asst. Professor in mechanical Engineering in a private Engineering college for last 12 years. History is my passion and I like to study a particular historical fact in depth. So is the interest in such so called complicated topic. Thanking you in anticipation and waiting for your feedback, Gsmodak (talk) 01:31, 22 December 2012 (UTC) Gsmodak

Shri One more request from Gsmodak
Dear sir, If you find my request suitable, would you please help me in arranging the matter neatly on the Vyadeshwar page? I tried to arrange the thumbnails in organized way but they are not getting arranged. Un-necessarily big spaces are left in between etc. So please tell me the proper steps.For sure the picture at the end in BIG FONT DEVNAGARI SCRIPT may be removed. One Important point I want to share with you that I am the creator of this page and the same page is active on web right from 30 Sept 2011. So rest assured about authenticity of the matter. Thank You, Gsmodak (talk) 01:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC) Gsmodak

Gestion de flux aleatoires faibles
Heya: You deleted this A1. I agree it's not encyclopedic: it's essayistic, chunks of it are in note form, and it breaks off with "to be continued". Also it's not a good idea when posting to the wrong-language Wikipedia to dispense with all accents and apostrophes, it flummoxes Google Translate. However, it's not that short, and the second sentence actually is a claim of notability. The topic is random flux generation. I don't have the scientific knowledge to judge how well we cover that - the editor is taking the tack that this is important to economics. But I don't think it's A1 and I think it might have been better to let the Pages Needing Translation into English folks judge it in case we do lack mention of the (sub)topic. Hopefully the editor will finish drafting it and then submit it at fr. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Meh, it wasn't worth keeping and it really wasn't all that clear what it was about, rather it was just somebodies attempt at posting an essay-- Jac 16888 Talk 20:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Мишел Фан
Hold off a minute - I'm trying to userfy it, but you zapped it again before I could make the move! JohnCD (talk) 23:25, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * My bad, didn't really pay attention, thought it was a recreation after userfication. Go ahead-- Jac 16888 Talk 23:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, got it past this time. I have pointed the guy to :mk which is where it needs to be. JohnCD (talk) 23:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well considering the current state of it, I doubt the mk:wiki folks would want it any more than we do tbh-- Jac 16888 Talk 23:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I do sometimes get a twinge of conscience when pointing newbies to their own-language WPs, but at least they have a better chance of understanding explanations there. JohnCD (talk) 23:42, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Message from Gsmodak
OK sir. Fantastic changes made by you........... simply great.......... This is how I wanted to project the page. Don't know how you made it...... Also I will definitely try to improve the page according to your suggestion and as per the reference pages suggested by you. Thanks a lot for guiding me in proper way. Also sir, The connection between the main topic Vyadeshwara and the incarnations is: People must visit these three forms of the Vyadeshwara also. Then only the pilgrimage of this place will be considered as complete. This is the meaning of incarnations. It is mentioned in the same book by Mr.Shrikant Gowande. Also the Holy aarti is daily chanted in the temple and it specifically relates to this temple. So it is added here. it is suggested indirectly that the concerned devotees of the deity must mug up this aarti. Thanking you, Gsmodak (talk) 05:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC) Gsmodak

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Deleted page
why Sri Koil Kanthadai Sudhasatvam Sirupuliyur Koil Annan Swamy Thirumaligai page is deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsriramkumar (talk • contribs) 01:48, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Because it wasn't clear what the article was even about, and it wasn't in English, this being the English Wikipedia-- Jac 16888 Talk 10:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Charles Karel Bouley Article
Hi ya, yesterday you deleted Archive #3 for the above article. I would really appreciate it if you could Create or restore the archive so it is connected to the actual article, it is important that the info is available. I have been on a long Wikibreak and just working my way back to being human LOL TYVM! Namaste  — DocOfSoc</b> • Talk  •  03:30, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * P.S. Could also use help with a troll, an ongoing problem with this article Thanks again,<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#075;">DocOfSoc</b> • Talk  •  03:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Not sure if you mean User talk:Charles Karel Bouley/Archive 3 or Charles Karel Bouley/Archive 3, but both were in the wrong place, the archive already exists in the correct location at Talk:Charles Karel Bouley/Archive 3. If japandroid continues I recommend reporting him to WP:ANI or WP:BLPN-- Jac 16888 Talk 11:37, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much!<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#075;">DocOfSoc</b> • Talk  •  23:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

juerg neuenschwander
hi

why did you just deleted my page about jürg neuenschwander?!

there was no copyright infridgement as far as i could have seen

i simply referenced an image which i uploaded later to wikimedia.

the image is public domain.

or what was the detailed reason?!

Spring juere (talk) 13:22, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Because the content was copied almost word for word from the subjects website. I should also point out before you recreate it that this is the English language website, and that biographies of living people require reliable 3rd party sources or they are deleted-- Jac 16888 Talk 13:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

thank you for your reply. why is this a problem in the current case: "Because the content was copied almost word for word from the subjects website."? plagiates?! are you going to delete this page too in case he himself had published this article? and what about this musician here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Breinschmid?! he does not have a bunch of references either (despite his personal website). however in case of juerg neuenschwander there are some: http://www.derbund.ch/bern/region/Einer-der-auf-der-Orgel-auch-jodelt/story/20474876 http://drs.srf.ch/www/de/drs/nachrichten/regional/bern-freiburg-wallis/327080.juerg-neuenschwander-erhaelt-burgdorfer-kulturpreis.html but how on earth are you going to check, whether these links are relevant or not (they are actually very relevant)?! and there is nothing more that can be posted at the moment than simply his cv. but more information will be published soon.

so please, restore this post

thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spring juere (talk • contribs) 19:58, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You don't seem to have grasped the problem here. You copied the content from his website. This is a copyright violation, i.e. it is breaking the law. Now there are ways in which you can demonastrate that you have been given permission to use this content, but since you have not used them we have no way of knowing if this is the case.-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:04, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, Today I have seen this message when I have tried to see "Dinero representativo" article: 22:48, 3 January 2013 Jac16888 (talk | contribs) deleted page Dinero representativo (A10: Recently created article that duplicates an existing topic, Representative money) So, I think that you have done a mistake. The article I did was an spanish version of "Representative money" article and you have deleted it. How can I recover my work done with it? Greetings, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fillipo23 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Non-English_language_articles_-_reconsider_their_fortnight.27s_free_pass.3F Peridon (talk) 17:47, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
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Douglas Trumbull "Early Days" edits
Dear Jac,

If you'd like to verify my historical reference on Doug's Wiki page, I suggest you contact him directly:. I'm sure he will substantiate my comment.

Otherwise I suggest you provide some empirical evidence to support your implicit allegation of of my lack of veracity.

My comment reveals Doug's audacious creative-genius at a young age. For that reason, I believe it qualifies as encyclopedic.

Doug and I were childhood best friends. He lived on 6th Avenue and I on 4th Avenue. We spent a lot of time together pursuing electronics and other things. I dined with him and his family more often than I did at home in those days. I assure you, I am able to relate many more stories about him, that reveal the man's true creative nature....

You may contact me directly: if you like.

Best regards,

Larry Dighera — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.217.132 (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have already commented on your own page before you posted this, but to re-iterate, fluffy quotes from old school friends do not belong in an encyclopedia, and named email addresses prove absolutely nothing. So stop it-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:46, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Dear Jac,

If you'd like to verify my historical reference on Doug's Wiki page, I suggest you contact him directly:. I'm sure he will substantiate my comment. And, who knows, he may offer more content. Short of Doug's confirmation of my comment, you have my solemn word that I witnessed the events I related. You may also contact Gregg Perkins (Telephone: redacted) who lived on 5th Avenue at that time, and was also a good friend or ours, for verification.

Otherwise I suggest you provide some empirical evidence to support your implicit allegation of of my lack of veracity.

My comment reveals Doug's audacious creative-genius at a young age. For that reason, I believe it qualifies as encyclopedic. You have to admit, that my comments add richness to otherwise largely statistical content. Surly Wikipedia isn't adverse to richness. Or is your objection merely autocratic tyranny couched in a personal aversion? :-)

Doug and I were childhood best friends. He lived on 6th Avenue and I on 4th Avenue. We spent a lot of time together pursuing electronics and other things. I dined with him and his family more often than I did at home in those days. I assure you, I am able to relate many more stories about him, that reveal the man's true creative nature....

You may contact me directly: if you like.

Best regards,

Larry Dighera

Dear Jac,

Thank you for your prompt response to my message.

So, in your subjective opinion, the fact that Mr. Trumbull worked his way through Junior College is not worthy of inclusion on his Wiki page? Or is my edit just too smarmy for your taste?

Do these qualify as VERIFIABLE REFERENCES in your subjective opinion:

|0/Special-Effects-by-Douglas-Trumbull.html Douglas Trumbull went to college intending to be an architect, but switched his major to illustration at El Camino College in Torrance, California.

Douglas Trumbull, the man who created the special effects for 2001: A Space Odyssey and Blade Runner, is a graduate of El Camino.

Must of the people who witnessed Doug working at G & M Electric, Co., Inc. in the early '60's are dead now, so I'm not sure how that fact might be verified today. Regardless, none of them would qualify as NOTABLE under the Wikipedia definition. However, Doug's first wife, Cherry Trumbull nee Foster, would certainly recall that fact. But she's only an attorney, so she wouldn't be considered a notable source either, would she?

(As an aside, Before they were married, Doug once wrote Cherry a G & M Electric Co., Inc. check in the amount of $1,000,000.00, presumably as a prank. A neighbor discovered the check outside her home, and delivered it to G & M.  Doug was a creative guy...)

While I can appreciate the Wiki requirement for notable sources for verification of facts, you must also admit that it inhibits a significant amount of valid information from being included in Wikipedia.

Best regards,

Larry Dighera — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.217.132 (talk) 21:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Did I say that the fact he went to college is irrelevant? What I'm trying to tell you, what you are refusing to accept, is that a overly biased and fluffy recollection from a childhood friend is not encyclopedic content. If you want to add to the early life section that Douglas went to x school and worked at y place, then by all means go ahead. Provided you can do so in a neutral tone and support it with reliable, 3rd party references, i.e. not people claiming to be old friends (I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm saying that there is no way to prove you are telling the truth and as such do not constitute a reliable reference), broken links or word documents that could have been written by anybody. I've said it before but to reiterate, this is an encyclopedia article, not a magazine piece. Would you expect an Encyclopedia Britannica article to include quotes from old school friends or anecodetes about pranks?-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:56, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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I undid your rm of quotes on The Real Housewives page. Why exactly do you say that they do not belong there? Many people have used Wikipedia as a reference material for the show and specifically those quotes which have been painstakingly added by numerous people for years. Please do not remove again w/o consensus, ty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.133.234 (talk) 03:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC) Also-the quotes ARE sourced. They are said by each character at the beginning of each show and they change each season usually. They-(the quotes that you deleted), are ONLY available in print, all-together like they were/are, on Wikipedia, AND many bloggers, and journalists have mentioned, referred to the quotes as posted on Wikipedia, since the only other way to reference these quotes is to watch the show. I'm sorry about the loss of any work that was done that I accidentally deleted, but what you removed was a valuable reference that took YEARS to create/assemble and as I mentioned it is uniquely available only on Wikipedia. 24.0.133.234 (talk) 04:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Put as bluntly as possible, no. This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. You want quotes then go to Wikiquote, IMDB, facebook, basically anywhere else, they do not belong here, as policy clearly demonstrates. I have removed them again, and will continue to do so, they are trash and they are not what wikipedia is for-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

WHAT I have been trying to tell you is that they are not exactly QUOTES-more like title-cards. That is why we need to discuss this. This is a reference as I have repeatedly tried to get you to understand. It is not a "fan"-thing. Just because the words are in quotations does not mean that they are quotes-do you even know what they are? As I explained that last time that this happened, (a year or so ago)---this is something that is commented-on and ANTICIPATED by numerous media. All you have to do is take any one of what you are calling "quotes" and plug them into Google and you will see how they have been repeatedly referenced and SOURCED. Which by the way was supposedly your problem with this. It is NOT I repeat NOT a "fan-issue". Just because everyone is somewhat mistakenly calling the items "quotes"-that is not the correct terminology, they are tag-lines that are changed almost every season and part of each character's identity for each season. NOT something to be thrown-away without a discussion.24.0.133.234 (talk) 07:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC) OH-and FYI-I know Wiki-policy too and I respectfully, (but not very respectfully I must say) disagree with you. If this matter continues in the rude, edit-waring fashion that it has been even after I begged you to take it to talk and consensus, I promise to bring-down some Wiki-policy that lets you know where you stand here-OK?24.0.133.234 (talk) 07:36, 6 February 2013 (UTC) Notification that I am raising a dispute.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Austin_Dabney This should be discussed as many people have contributed and years of work plus the previously mentioned reasons. One person should not be doing this. There needs to be talk about the deletions please(again).24.0.133.234 (talk) 07:14, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Call them what you like, it makes no difference to that fact they do not belong here, and I challenge you to find a single experienced editor who belives otherwise-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Challenge accepted I already have found an editor who restored the signature-statements. I am having a little trouble locating it because it happened awhile ago and I cannot remember which show it was exactly.24.0.133.234 (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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Just to let you know, User:24.0.133.234 started a thread on AN/I about your edits to the Real Housewives articles. It is located here if you would like to comment.  Pinkadelica <sup style="color:black;">♣  07:55, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion/talk about this pending DRN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey#Signature.2FTitle-Card_Quotations24.0.133.234 (talk) 17:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC) I would respond to your statement at the dispute but the dispute has not been officially opened for discussion yet.Since i am a temporary volunteer there now I will try to open it 24.0.133.234 (talk) 23:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
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I prefer to use soft redirects so users are 100% clear that they are using my wrong username. I don't think WP:SOFTREDIRECT forbids this. — This, that and the other (talk) 03:32, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, I noticed the talk on WT:SOFTREDIRECT, but it seems to apply to main namespace only. — This, that and the other (talk) 03:34, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Using a soft redirect causes the pages to show up as "ownerless", adding them to this backlog, and making them subject to deletion under U2 at any time. There is no benefit to using a soft redirect over a hard one, so please revert yourself-- Jac 16888 Talk 10:32, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
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Alonso M. Escalante
Hi, this is Martino Liu, I was editing an article called Alonso M. Escalante who was the founder of the Guadalupe Missionaries. A link is in need of supporting reference in the Article Universidad Intercontinental. So I wanted to create more content on the issue, if this is not the way, the show me how.

Thanks. Martziano (talk) 18:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The article you created was a) Blantantly biased and promotional, b) Not in english, this being the English language Wikipedia and c) had no supporting references to demonstrate notability-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Letter Zyu
Article Letter Zyu by 90% is based on article in scientific journal: http://elibrary.ru/item.asp?id=17316301 -  - '''[статья|автор=к.ф.н. А. В. Зеленин|заглавие=«Буква зю»|издание=журнал «Русская речь (журнал РАН)»|год=2005|выпуск=1|страницы=79-83]'''. There are authoritative sources the remaining 10% in the ru:Буква зю. What exactly you need to give more? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 13:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The article is nonsense. It is utterly unintelligible. It is absolutely useless to anybody attempting to read it-- Jac 16888 Talk 15:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Now how? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 12:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vonbluvens_Show I am not too sure how to go about requesting the deletion process. I didn't become a member (didn't find it necessary until today). Please forgive any errors I may have made in requesting a full review of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vonbluvens_Show

You have probably surmised by now I am the person or subject of the article written. The individual that goes by the name of "Hal Turner Fan" has been harassing me and my family of late. You will notice that article on my has remained dormant since 2005...that is until "Hal Turner Fan" attempted to resurrect it complete without citation, reference or links.

I respectfully request that this page be come under review and considered for deletion.

Again, I am sorry if my requests fell outside Wikipedia protocol...it's a bit confusing.METOKNOWONLY (talk) 19:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Please see the comment I posted on your talk page, I have nominated the page for deletion at Articles for deletion/Vonbluvens Show, I suggest you weigh in there-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:38, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

BTW, This guy is violating my copyright by posting this image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vonbluvens_Show_logo.jpg on said page. I created that image and was hosted on my original defunct site years ago. Again, please excuse me I am a newbie at this. METOKNOWONLY (talk) 01:46, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Completed pages at WP:PNT
I sort of fell into the mode of marking page work as complete and allowing you or another editor to review and remove them, I guess out of habit. It's always good to have a second set of eyes sign off on stuff. But I don't know if you want me to keep doing that if it's more work for you, or I should just remove them myself. Either way works for me since I have to edit the project page anyway, so whatever works for you. § FreeRangeFrog croak 21:57, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with carrying on as we are if you want, up to you really-- Jac 16888 Talk 22:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. I just figured I'd ask if I was just creating more work for you, Patchy and other editors, but if you're OK with the modus operandi so far then we'll keep to it, just in case I manage to screw something up :) § FreeRangeFrog croak 22:08, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem mate, I'd have no problem if you did want to just remove entries directly, I've seen enough of your work to trust that your edits are good quality, but I'm happy to keep checking too, the choice is entirely yours-- Jac 16888 Talk 22:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

List of countries with overseas military bases
clarify opening, tidy a little, rm soviet union (be surprised if they have any military bases overseas) - ru:Шаблон:Базы ВМФ СССР за рубежом. [http://www.ng.ru/nvo/2004-01-23/8_bases.html В конце 80-х годов мощь СССР обеспечивали военные контингенты, расположенные на территории ГДР, Польши, Чехословакии и Венгрии. Советские танковые части дислоцировались на Кубе, в сотне миль от США. Военные корабли базировались в портах Гаваны и Сьенфуэгоса. Присутствие ВМФ в разных частях Мирового океана обеспечивалось сетью пунктов материально-технического обеспечения. В различные периоды такие пункты были развернуты в Александрии и Мерса-Матрухе (Египет), Латакии и Тартусе (Сирия), Дахлаке (Эфиопия), Сокотре и Адене (Йемен), Луанде (Ангола), Конакри (Гвинея), Триполи и Тобруке (Ливия), Бизерте и Сфаксе (Тунис), Сплите и Тивате (Югославия), а также в Камрани (Вьетнам). Хотя эти базы не в полной мере обеспечивали потребности флота, они позволяли нести боевое дежурство с приемлемой степенью эффективности. Сейчас все это в далеком прошлом, и у российского флота осталась возможность заходить только в Тартус, куда, впрочем, он не торопится. Наблюдение за всевозможными объектами вероятного противника и прослушивание каналов связи осуществлялось с территории Польши (Свиноустье), Германии (Росток), Финляндии (Порккала-Удд), Сомали (Бербера), Вьетнама (Камрань), Сирии (Тартус), Йемена (Ходейда), Эфиопии (Нокра), Египта и Ливии (см. карту-схему).] Vyacheslav84 (talk) 04:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You still don't seem to have grasped that this is the English Wikpedia - posting a block of Russian doesn't help anyone. Since the Soviet Union does not exist anymore I fail to see how they could be running any Military bases. I was attempting to improve some of the crap you're insisting on posting here, the least you could do is not keep undoing it-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * 1. If you please talk to me politely - that you have a flag administrator does not give you the right to be rude to me. 2. Section on military bases of the Sovet Union is based on the authoritative source (see my post above - ). 3. Remove your section is based that is based solely on your personal opinion and has no basis in the authorities sources. 4. in in the Russian Wikipedia we write articles based on authoritative sources. In the English Wikipedia articles are written based on personal opinion of the administrator? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The Soviet Union does not exist - how can something that does not exist have military bases? As for the part about me posting my own personal opinion, what are you talking about? I posted nothing, all I did was rewrite the opening paragraph and remove a few superflous parts.-- Jac 16888 Talk 20:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Had in the past have military bases - in the article section of the history would be optimal. Removal must also be based on authoritative sources. ИМХО. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 20:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

5. Which I agree with you that we should Soviet Union move in section history (List of countries with overseas military bases*history). Vyacheslav84 (talk) 20:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You do realise that a list of every country that has ever had a military base owned by another country would basically be a list of every country. And in future could you please use the show preview button in future to say everything you want to in edit, instead of several, it just makes things clearer.-- Jac 16888 Talk 20:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There are not many countries had military bases abroad. I think not more than 10-15 (with history). Vyacheslav84 (talk) 21:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty much all of Europe, North Africa and East Asia had foreign military bases in them during WW2. Then you probably have every country owned by the British, Austrian, Spanish, German, French, Russian etc empires, you could go even further back and include the Roman, Greek and various Chinese empires. -- Jac 16888 Talk 21:10, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nuance. In the source of U.S. military bases abroad are considered in the historical aspect of the Cold War and the modern aspect (and is being reviewed in the historical dynamics), and the Russian military bases abroad are considered together with the military bases of the Soviet Union. Rather all it is considered in a context of opposition of the U.S. and the Soviet Union / Russia. Ie historical and modern aspect is considered as one. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 21:21, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If a military base still exists then it can be included, as owned by the country that currently owns it, this is not an article about the history of military bases around the world. You should also be aware that your inadvertent pushing of content about Russia over content about the rest of the world is somthing you should try and avoid - Wikipedia is supposed to have a global focus, focusing largely one country is something of a bias-- Jac 16888 Talk 21:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Besides the U.S. and Russia have military bases overseas, some European countries (eg, Great Britain and France) - why would remove this modern military bases? but have also taken steps to expand the geography of their military presence in the world by global repositioning.[1] - U.S. only expanding its military bases, but Russia reduced (decreases). More precisely, Russia inherited several military bases of the Soviet Union + bases in the former Soviet Union (which became the foreign country). But foreign military bases Russia is much less than that of the Soviet Union. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 12:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I have corrected the part about Russia expanding, however I do not see the need to include in the opening section about other countries - since that is what the rest of the article is about-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:15, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The preamble is a brief description of all Article. Therefore, in the preamble should mention all Forums Article. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 17:23, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Then why not include all the countries already listed below? It's an introduction, it doesn't need to go into excessive detail. -- Jac 16888 Talk 17:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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Coat of arms of Arendal diff 543089450
Please describe what you meant by "mostly fine"? ~ Nelg (talk) 00:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * As in it is perfectly readable English, and does not require a translator to fix it-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:36, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Von Bluvens Show
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vonbluvens_Show_logo.jpg appears to be in violation of non-free content policy, I deleted it and was accused of vandalism so I was wondering if this article can be recommended for speedy deletion. Thanks in advance.METOKNOWONLY (talk) 16:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * See here. The file as such has already been tagged for reduced resolution so I'm going to fix that (for what it's worth while the article is still present). As to your accusations of vandalism, one could in fact have thought that you were acting in bad faith because you removed the image from the article without any explanation in your edit summary. To avoid these issues, please comment on your motivations in the edit summary next time you remove something from a page. The article about the show is not eligible for speedy deletion only because of a faulty non free file. If at all, we would delete the image, but that problem can be solved easily by uploading a smaller image. De728631 (talk) 17:10, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much, what I ment to say was I was accused of vandalism by the original uploader of the file. I will give explanations of deletions in the notations section from here on out.

I also discovered today that a major contributor/editor to the 2005 original article and talk page by the user name of "Willmcw" was indefinitely banned by the Arbitration Committee in no small part to issues involving bias. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Willmcw Which I noted on the old talk page. I am indeed a newbie and I will most likely not add anything else since apparently it is up for deletion like you say.METOKNOWONLY (talk) 19:37, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

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[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Derivative_works#Maps As a result of the court decisions, following parts of a map are in the public domain, and may be used freely: ... Geographic or topographic features. Those are facts, and facts aren't copyrightable]. File:Balancanche.PNG - ? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 07:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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PERT Test sent back to sandbox
Hi Jac

I discovered you sent Postsecondary Education Readiness Test (PERT) back to the sandbox. As this is my first attempt at wikipedia, it's not surprising that I have overlooked something. Please let me know how I can make it "ready to be an article." Also,what is the procedure for publishing the article? I 'request' it to be created from my user sandbox? Thank you in advance for your advice and assistance. PERTTEST (talk) 19:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * To make an article live you need to move it to the group titled "(article)" in the dropdown box - the Wikipedia group is for the various behind the scenes pages/policies/noticeboards etc. However if you were to move User:PERTTEST/sandbox to the mainspace now it would most likely be deleted shortly afterwards. Two key Wikipedia policies for articles are that they must be notable - i.e. they must have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time, and that this must be shown through the use of reliable, 3rd party references. I also note that the article seems to focus mostly on the particulars of the test itself - more important is the background/history, usage and real-world impact of the test. Your first article is an excellent starting point, I recommend taking a look-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:29, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi again,

Would you please take a look at the modifications I made to the PERT wikipedia entry. As suggested, I added the history of the test and cited several relevant sources and links to other wiki entries. As this is the first year of true implementation, statistical data is still being collected. After this school year, I will be able to update to include the 'real-world impact' with student data on the high school and college level. As the test currently only relates to the state of Florida, there is no significance to the world at large; however, it's very important to Florida students, parents and educators. Thank you for your assistance. I appreciate your guidance and feedback. PERTTEST (talk) 17:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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List of Ainu terms
Hello, Jac16888. You deleted List of Ainu terms in accordance with AfD and noted that you would be happy to userfy. If you have moved the list to someone else's user space, could you tell me where? If you haven't userfied it elsewhere, could you put it somewhere under User:Cnilep? Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 01:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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Enka tónlist
Hi, I see you deleted the page "Enka tónlist" earlier this month (March 11th) - and know why you did (it should have been at is.wikipedia.org not en.wikipedia.org as it was in Icelandic). The question is where i could find the article, so as to move to its right place? The article was made as a part of a high school project in enriching the icelandic wikipedia and I´m afraid my student made a mistake in where is uploaded the article. Hopefully the text can be salvaged and moved - both to enrich the Icelandic wikipedia which lacks information on Enka music and so the student can get some sort of grade for her effort. Thanks in advance.MHKalli (talk) 10:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)MHKalli
 * Restored it and moved it to User:MHKalli/Enka tónlist-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Do you know if the article used to have any links, sources and so on (which might get lost in restoration and moving)? MHKalli (talk) 08:36, 26 March 2013 (UTC)MHKalli
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Hiya! I removed the PROD on an article that was formerly in Chinese. I managed to get it translated with Google Translate, so I ended up removing the PROD on that technical reason alone. I'm trying to find some people to look for Chinese language sources since there is still the question of notability here, though. I thought I'd drop a note and let you know why I took it off. 04:31, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
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WHAT HAPPENED?!
Today I had thought about something that I had not thought about for quite a while, and when it popped into my head, I found myself wondering, whatever happened to those guys, and how did they get started etc. So naturally, my very next thought was, THANK GOD FOR WIKIPEDIA! I can just log on and find out! However, I was sadly disappointed when I logged in, only to discover that there was no longer any article for ISAAC AIR FREIGHT, the Christian "Firesign Theater" from the 70s. Can you tell me why you deleted it, and may I ever so politely ask you to put it back up? Thank you so much Jac16888! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbgrafix (talk • contribs) 04:11, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Brad James
When was it prodded before? I looked through the history I didn't see anything.--Yankees10 20:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Wrong history, it was prodded and deleted but I'm told that still counts to make it unproddable-- Jac 16888 Talk 20:18, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, can help to improve this article, thank you; Tríptico de Nava y Grimón.--81.32.232.172 (talk) 17:01, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I see you recently blocked User:Kuyi123w for 'Persistently poor editing and ignoring all messages'. The contributor seems to have failed to take note: no evidence of communication, same questionable edits, seems to think that AfD results can be ignored (see Lucinda Southworth which was merged and changed to a redirect]]), etc, etc. Given the contributors familiarity with the inner workings of Wikipedia, I can't help wondering if they have edited under another name. Thoughts? AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:34, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Humm - it appears that Kuyi123w also fails to understand copyright (and the difference between Wikipedia and a trashy tabloid) See this edit for instance, which includes a straight copy-paste from the source . AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:10, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Given the continuing mess Kuyi123w is creating, I have now raised this at WP:ANI. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:23, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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05:25, 26 April 2013 (UTC)Need Assistance and Guidance
05:25, 26 April 2013 (UTC) Hi Jac16888,

I need your help in reviewing the article

"User:Agnikunju/Sujatha Awards for Literary Excellence"

This article about an award given on memory of Sujatha Rangarajan a late legend of Tamil literature. Kindly help in moving the article at the earliest as this award has been declared in 2013 and the award function is on 3rd May 2013.

Also please suggest for corrections and modifications.

Regards, The User. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnikunju (talk • contribs) 05:25, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No offence but the article needs an entire re-write, it needs to be rewritten in clear, neutral english and supported by reliable 3rd party references-- Jac 16888 Talk 15:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

05:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

Can you please review the page and confirm ot publish as article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Agnikunju/Sujatha_Awards_for_Literary_Excellence

The references are :

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2008030458720600.htm&date=2008/03/04/&prd=th& http://www.bharatstudent.com/cafebharat/photo_gallery_3-Tamil-Events-Writer_Sujatha_Awards_Press_Meet-Photo-Galleries-3,8,5980,1.php http://uyirmmai.com/Uyirosai/Contentdetails.aspx?cid=4212 http://www.writersujatha.com/ Regards, 05:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agnikunju (talk • contribs)

Hi Jac16888,

Please verify and confirm, whether i can move this page as Article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.91.201.56 (talk) 09:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Please follow the procedure outlined at WP:AFC to have your article reviewed-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

English vs Spanish
Estaba escribiendo una nota sobre Leandro Staino y me has dicho que mi ingles no es bueno ,lo estaba haciendo en español — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdemon 18 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes well a) I was talking about your other edits which are not very good english, and b) this is the English Wikipedia so you shouldn't be writing articles in Spanish anyway-- Jac 16888 Talk 22:11, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Restoration request
Hi. Please restore Andrisoft_WANGUARD. I will immediately add indications of notability from Reliable_sources
 * I have restored the article to your userspace at User:Vborcan/Andrisoft WANGUARD, please add the required sources and use the WP:AFC system to have it assessed before restoring it to articlespace-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Projecto Tracer delete
Hello,

I see you have deleted the page Projecto Tracer. And the G11 and G12 reasons you called upon are in correct. But we did not infringe copyright, because the page http://cms.ua.pt/TRACER/ is in fact my page. We are a project from University of Aveiro, and we have as a goal of this project to have a wiki page to present the results of the ongoing work. I saw other project pages in wikipedia, so i imagine it will be possible for us to have one too. Can you lease explain to me what I have to do a Projeto Tracer page. If I take out the links i had put? n your experience what do you recomend I do?

Thanks Marta - Projecto Tracer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Projectotracer (talk • contribs) 18:07, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Your article had nothing at all to suggest any notability, and written in an overly promotional way - if you want an article about the project I suggest you attempt to create one through the WP:AFC-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:53, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry but I do not know what you meant by your edit "misused category"-can you explain please?24.0.133.234 (talk) 16:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty simple, you've added the page to a category despite it having nothing to do with that category. Category:Film and television opening sequences is to categorise articles about opening sequences, not list every article about a subject - or are you not able to tell the difference between The Real Housewives of New York City and every other article in that category?-- Jac 16888 Talk 16:35, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

The Real Housewives is included on the page, how is it not in the category? No I do not understand24.0.133.234 (talk) 16:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It is included on Title sequence yes. As I have already said, Category:Film and television opening sequences is a list of articles about just opening sequences, not a list of every article about a subject that happens to have an opening sequences. I literally cannot think of a simpler way to explain that-- Jac 16888 Talk 16:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, considering how you falsely claimed that I was disturbing an article which I do not appreciate, I was in the middle of something so since you also deleted the sub-heading with the undo to the undo that was done to opening title information, it would have made more sense if you had not interrupted.Considering that these opening sequence statements continue to be edited back in by numerous editors, I think that it would be a good idea to try and organize it on the pages a little bit better which is what I was trying to do24.0.133.234 (talk) 16:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You were disturbing the article, the warning I gave you was about the statements not the category. And how about no? There has been no legitimate attempt to restore the content, and nothing has changed to support it being restore if there had been. It remains the same unencyclopedic shit it always has been, is it not about time you took the hint and just dropped it?-- Jac 16888 Talk 16:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I have to disagree about effort. As I predicted, as soon as new opening title sequence statements were created, with another season of The Real Housewives starting, numerous and random editors made helpful good faith edits to improve the articles. I personally have no interest in gathering the statements for the articles and whatever else I said on my IP's talk page about it24.0.133.234 (talk) 17:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Wizard101-response
If you are talking about me updating Malistaire Drake and Morganthe's biography, none of the Wikias for Wizard101 have any full details on them. As for the schools, we should at least keep a brief info about them like I did. Rtkat3 (talk) 3:28, May 8 2013 (UTC)
 * I am talking about basically every single edit you make - the adding of overly excessive plot details. NOTPLOT is very clear, and the majority of your edits are the exact opposite of what it tells us to do. If you want to add massive amounts of fan info go to Wikia - for Wikipedia the information should be brief, concise, and above all sourced-- Jac 16888 Talk 19:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Good point. You can also help over at the Wizard101 Wikia as well if you have any information that can help improve the website. Rtkat3 (talk) 3:51, May 8 2013 (UTC)

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Dear sir,

What is the reason to delete my article.

Regards Benisugan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benisugan (talk • contribs) 13:57, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Because it was an essay of your own original research, and therefore does not belong on Wikipedia-- Jac 16888 Talk 14:30, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I don't think I quite understand the distinction. Wikipedia contains bibliographies and discographies. How is a listing of art produced in puzzle format any different than a listing of books or songs or paintings produced? All are catalogues of creative works by an artist. If the problem is that it is on the main page for the artist, I agree that might not be the best place. Do you think it would be appropriate to catalogue the works on a separate page? Or are you saying that someone needs to create a page outside of wikipedia and just add the link to the reference section? I know someone who is working on such a page.

Thanks, Trekkie1701a (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * An external page would be much more sensible. The best comparision I could make is to something like a newspaper journalist or a comic book writer - people who release hundreds upon upon hundreds of items that are notable individually, we don't list every single newspaper article/comic, instead we just say that person x has written for newspaper x and comic y and if there happen to be particuarly notable releases (such as article z led to a riot in country p) then they can be mentioned as well-- Jac 16888 Talk 17:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Piwigo page removal
Hi I'm asking for information of what is missing about the Piwigo page Thx

Best Regards

Flop25 (talk) 18:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It contains no reliable 3rd party references to indicate notability-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:29, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Does something like this page help? http://www.softaculous.com/blog/tag/piwigo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.142.144 (talk) 18:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Not really it's just a blog, anybody could post something similar-- Jac 16888 Talk 18:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

How do I know what's reliable? Most of the 84K+ google hits for 'Piwigo review' seem to be download sites, piwigo sites, blogs or forums. Wading through all those hits seems daunting. Is there a better way to find acceptable sources? Would the Ubuntu (OS) site listing it's features be good to cite for that part? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/piwigo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.142.144 (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks very much for the advice. I do plan on editing the page and will have fixed up within a week or two. TwinTurbo (talk) 18:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Airplane olive
I agree that the story was bizarre. Was it actually sourced to what it claimed to be? Idle curiosity. (also your talkpage takes foooooooooooooooreeeeeeeeeeeever to load....) — <span style="font:small-caps 1.2em Hoeflr Text,sans-serif;color:#000;letter-spacing:0.15em;">The Potato Hose 22:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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