User talk:Jack86mkII

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Proposed deletion of Tom Pincus


The article Tom Pincus has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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September 2017
Hello, I'm Zackmann08. Thank you for your recent contributions to George Merrick (rugby union). I noticed that when you added the image to the infobox, you added it as a thumbnail. In the future, please do not use thumbnails when adding images to an infobox (see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE). What does this mean? Well in the infobox, when you specify the image you wish to use, instead of doing it like this:

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October 2017
Please do not use thumbnails inside of infoboxesas you did to Perry Humphreys. Note that this is your second warning regarding this issue. Continuing to add thumbnails will be seen as disruptive editing. For more information please see WP:INFOBOXIMAGE. When adding an image, instead of doing:

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Harry Sloan
Can you please add its sources? It is a biography of a living person and so it needs WP:INLINECITED, clear, sources. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:32, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

I am still in the process of adding the link.WP:SIG

Ways to improve Harry Sloan
Hi, I'm Boleyn. Jack86mkII, thanks for creating Harry Sloan!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Thanks for creating and referencing this. It has been tagged as needing more references and expansion.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

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Proposed deletion of Luke Hannant


The article Luke Hannant has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL."

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The player has just been transferred into a professional team (Port Vale) I have left 3 references and looked up all the information on where he started playing etc.. Wouldn't it be easier if the issue is outlined in direct clarity. Instead of some vague rules. The idea is that players who play in the professional league should have representation on Wikipedia. Unless that is you want to simply miss people out. Jack86mkII 15:54, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Luke Hannant for deletion
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 * Still no specific mention of the rule broken. I could point to several shoddy pages on wikipedia with no references.

User talk:Jack86mkII 14:56, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You found other articles that had problem, doesn't mean you article with the same problem had an immune. Matthew_hk   t  c  15:03, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

So like I said, please point out the SPECIFIC ISSUE. Since I provided references for pretty much everything on the page. Let me use a parable to describe things a little clearer. In a law court a person in the dock cannot be convicted based on the number of the law he/she may have broken. The prosecuting lawyer needs to find the right words and the evidence to back it up before a jury decides whether it is right or wrong.

If it makes you feel better delete the article. But it will only need to be made again at some point. User talk:Jack86mkII 15:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT as stated. Just no need to explain if there is a full length policy page. Matthew_hk   t  c  15:12, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

I read them and do not believe I am in breach of any of those rules. So the ball is in your court. If you cannot give an example of what specific rule I broke then you are deleting the article based on your own personal predjudices. User talk:Jack86mkII 15:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * He did not actually play ANY PROFESSIONAL GAME in professional league (as defined in WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues) Don't be stubborn and please provide your rebuttal with actual reliable secondary source. Matthew_hk   t  c  15:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Finally we are getting somewhere. Well then he is now registered to Port Vale, who are a professional team playing in League Two. I am not 'being stubborn'. Go to Port Vale football club's website, under news, he is a new signing. If you would insist on waiting till he plays a match then ok but I think it is being a little pedantic. Is it not useful to have people expanding Wikipedia for free. User:jack86mkII15:25, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Had a contract did not mean he is a professional footballer (in the sense of wikipedia policy), until he made his actual competitive debut in a fully professional league (such as League Two), he is a non-notable footballer. You certainly did not read the policy page carefully. Matthew_hk   t  c  15:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

saying I did not read the rules is a presumption. I did read them and I realised Hannant is a professional footballer contracted to Port Vale. I pushed you to be specific because you were hiding behind a block of ambigous text and I wanted you to be clearer. At any rate you are wrong again since Gateshead are a professional team (see top line):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateshead_F.C. Here is one of many sources (http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=94457) that shows he has played many times for Gateshead.User:jack86mkII15:25, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

I am arguing my case, nothing more. I don't really see what benefit there is to deleting the page and I believe I have proved the argument to be wrong. BUT.. if you want to delete it go ahead. The player looks pretty talented and I think he may end up above League Two at some point. The only thing I can think of is perhaps Wikipedia wanting to control it's database. Which by the way is perfectly noble. It is a free service and I know myself how much hosting can cost. User:jack86mkII16:03, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The league Gateshead was played (when Hannant was a Gateshead player) was not in the list of WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. Matthew_hk   t  c  16:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Gateshead consider themselves a professional team and to qualify as professional you have to have full time players which they do. So if it only counts when it is League Two then it is highly likely at this time tomorrow he will qualify: http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/luke-hannant-determined-seize-chance-1084923, From the article: ″He will go straight into the squad for Saturday's game at Accrington Stanley and believes he can adjust quickly to the pace of the game in League Two.″ 16:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Why not just suspend the player till tomorrow then. I had a look on Non-League sides and generally you are right in your assertion. So yes I see where you are coming from. Perhaps a little bit premature on my part (if two days can count). thankyou. User:jack86mkII16:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * WP:Crystal and WP:TOOSOON. Matthew_hk   t  c  16:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh that was witty. What a great person you must be.User:jack86mkII22:24, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Please review Caillou Pettis
Can you please look over the draft available for the article on Caillou Pettis and see if it is good to submit for actual publication? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyBatman22 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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July 2018
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Jarrett Rivers. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. GiantSnowman 09:00, 9 July 2018 (UTC) I was actually updating the player's appearences and goals. The changes I made were 100% accurate. So why is this a problem? Please explain. User:Jack86mkIIUser talk:Jack86mkII 10:03, 9 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.159.172.143 (talk)

To claim this is vandalism is absurd and an abuse of power. Stats here. I want a reason for this action. If you cannot give one then this is tantamount to totalitarian Wikipedia. I apologise if there is a legitimate reason. But having read the section on vandalism I don't see how that applies when I was actually adding to the accuracy of the player's career: http://www.blythspartans.com/player/jarrett-rivers/User:Jack86mkIIUser talk:Jack86mkII 10:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

User:There'sNoTime Can you please investigate this in an impartial manner.. User talk:Jack86mkII 10:26, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Waste of time, liars never have any evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.159.172.143 (talk) 20:50, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

It is ok, nevermind. Maybe there is something I am not seeing. Sorry for the short temper ok.User talk:Jack86mkII 16:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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I have fixed this, thanks. talk(talk) 17:26, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

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Ok, no problem! Snowman 14:23, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Infobox timestamps
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I had spotted the Folivi one, it was just laziness. I will make sure I update the 'last updated' part. Cheers, Jack86mkII 00:07, 27 March 2019 (GMT)

February 2020
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